[QUOTE=MoonView; 1264467]Looks like I'm not the only one in search of the "yo-yo"! LOL.
MnV[/QUOTE]Which yo-yo? I know where a couple have gone.
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[QUOTE=MoonView; 1264467]Looks like I'm not the only one in search of the "yo-yo"! LOL.
MnV[/QUOTE]Which yo-yo? I know where a couple have gone.
[QUOTE=Phaik Naim;1176123]I don't see any reports on this place, at least not in recognizable format. They have been advertising on CL forever. Could be a legit place, but something makes me think maybe not. Any intel would be most appreciated.[/QUOTE]Not very good. Old, no selection. Didn't feel clean.
Since I saw some good reviews here, I went to the Bay myself and asked for Jennifer. While I had a good time, it wasn't up to the level that everyone else has commented on here. I'm chalking it up to being a new face.
Plenty of bad reports if you do careful research.
[QUOTE=Zingie;1286370]Not very good. Old, no selection. Didn't feel clean.[/QUOTE]
Visited the CTM ladies prior to the Skins / Cowboys game. First time I've seen Sara since her trip back home. Got Yumi. As per my other CTM reviews, the service was excellent. And very wet.
OK, I'll play let's find Yo-Yo, last seen about a month ago at MWC! See attached photo below as graciously provided by brother Hofi35.
Oh Yeah, this must be a "morning after" shot! :)
MnV
[QUOTE=Zingie;1286362]Which yo-yo? I know where a couple have gone.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Hofi35; 1237447]
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I decided to post this again, becase I can't believe that noone would seen her. Few more details about her. She worked as Yoyo at Orange in DC back in 08, then was off for a while, then moved to NoVa and worked at Golden Spa in Alexandria in late summer in 09. Don't know what name she used there. I've lost track of her in spring 10. Other source told me she still around, probably Annandale / Alexandria area. Other thing she speaks almost no english. Anyone with any info please PM me. Thank you[/QUOTE]
Looks vaguely familiar. I don't think I've seen her recently.
Been a long time since I've posted. Slowly getting back into the game.
Went over to ppy last week before lunchtime. Place was pretty quiet. Asked for lineup, saw three ladies and picked bonnie. As others have mentioned, she is short, cute, natural bee cups. Ts was good covered all the spots, she hiked up her skirt to keep from getting wet giving me a nice view under the hood as a bit of a tease. She is a litte aggressive with the tip but I don't mind. Negotiating (haggling) is the way in most asian countries. You just have to roll with it and not take it personally.
Massage was average, nothing great but finish was definitely above average. She mentioned she'd be away for a week and then coming back, not sure if that is this week or not.
In reading recent posts, seems like we're keeping the details down to a minimum and I will do the same.
Stopped by for visit and got Linda. Hour service started with ts. She paid extra attention to my back crack which I though odd. But later understood why. She made me pucker up. Was a memorable experiance. Would repeat.
[QUOTE=MoonView; 1287208]OK, I'll play let's find Yo-Yo, last seen about a month ago at MWC! See attached photo below as graciously provided by brother Hofi35.
Oh Yeah, this must be a "morning after" shot! .
MnV[/QUOTE]If you find her roomate tattoo michele you will find her, so if any of you have seen michele please let us know.
I have it on good authority that Yoyo is no longer in the area, and won't be returning. Seniors can PM me for details.
[QUOTE=JinPark71;1287549]Stopped by for visit and got Linda. Hour service started with ts. She paid extra attention to my back crack which I though odd. But later understood why. She made me pucker up. Was a memorable experiance. Would repeat.[/QUOTE]South American or Georgian?
MnV
[QUOTE=MoonView; 1287208]OK, I'll play let's find Yo-Yo, last seen about a month ago at MWC! See attached photo below as graciously provided by brother Hofi35.
Oh Yeah, this must be a "morning after" shot! .
MnV[/QUOTE]This Yoyo must have talents too make up for her exterior LOL.
I wouldn't have even noticed her at any AAMP let along if she were walking in the Mall.
She musta "rocked" Hofi's world. Haha.
PC out
So I had an appointment today so I arrive at the office park and when I'm coming around the corner in my car I see this black Crown Victoria (or it could have been a Lincoln town car) with tinted windows parked literally directly across the street from Papaya's door, facing papaya's entrance! And the driver just sitting in the car behind the tinted glass. Coincidentally Mamasan was taking out a bag of trash to the dumpsters as I'm coming around the corner in my car and she too seemed to notice the car and she did not take her eyes off it as she crossed the street on her way to the dumpter, I slowed down to let her cross the street then kept on driving straight, and left. It smelled like bacon to me.
Has anybody else seen this before? Am I just being paranoid? I mean, if it were a pig he was doing nothing to hide or to blend in being parked where he was, the way he was, driving that car. But then maybe he wanted to be seen as a tactic to scare away customers or scare our therapists.
Several places that I know of all had visits this week.
Things will hopefully settle down soon.
PA
[QUOTE=The Nub; 1288266]So I had an appointment today so I arrive at the office park and when I'm coming around the corner in my car I see this black Crown Victoria (or it could have been a Lincoln town car) with tinted windows parked literally directly across the street from Papaya's door, facing papaya's entrance! And the driver just sitting in the car behind the tinted glass. Coincidentally Mamasan was taking out a bag of trash to the dumpsters as I'm coming around the corner in my car and she too seemed to notice the car and she did not take her eyes off it as she crossed the street on her way to the dumpter, I slowed down to let her cross the street then kept on driving straight, and left. It smelled like bacon to me.
Has anybody else seen this before? Am I just being paranoid? I mean, if it were a pig he was doing nothing to hide or to blend in being parked where he was, the way he was, driving that car. But then maybe he wanted to be seen as a tactic to scare away customers or scare our therapists.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Nub;1288266]Has anybody else seen this before? Am I just being paranoid? I mean, if it were a pig he was doing nothing to hide or to blend in being parked where he was, the way he was, driving that car. But then maybe he wanted to be seen as a tactic to scare away customers or scare our therapists.[/QUOTE]Had a similar sighting about one week ago in the MT parking lot.
Went to Papaya Friday night to see girl Yuri. Mamason said she was arrested earlier that day for something (claimed she did not know for what). In turn that spooked some of the other girls and they left on there own. Only Bonnie and Jennifer were working only half and hour appointments only until get some more girls.
Called yesterday and asked who was working and MMS said all the old girls were gone. Asked who was working, said a K-girl named Kim (oh, a Korean girl named Kim? Really?). Asked how old she was and she said she's' younger than me which I didn't take as a good sign. Decided to look elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Sashimi;1288359]Had a similar sighting about one week ago in the MT parking lot.[/QUOTE]Same w cmt.
I remember seeing CV interceptors at HWC in the months before it closed. I just drove thru the parking lot and out the other side. I haven't seen them at any other AMP. I do keep a lookout for them when I got to an AMP. I also oa new AMP so I know all the ways in and out of the parking lot.
[QUOTE=AKFourtySeven;1288482]I remember seeing CV interceptors at HWC in the months before it closed.[/QUOTE]That was some time ago. What I observed there at that time and reported were marked patrol vehicles manned by pigs tsaking pictures of the entrance with cameras fitted with telephoto lenses.
In an effort to get this thread back on track:
I was in serious need of a good massage so I went to Papaya again. Drew Pink who is a short and chunky girl and very pretty.
Standard services and pricing and I left feeling MUCH better!
JJ
[QUOTE=The Speaker;1288433]Went to Papaya Friday night to see girl Yuri. Mamason said she was arrested earlier that day for something (claimed she did not know for what). In turn that spooked some of the other girls and they left on there own. Only Bonnie and Jennifer were working only half and hour appointments only until get some more girls.[/QUOTE]O wow, the LEO sighting in front of Papaya I reported was mid-afternoon Friday. It all makes sense now. I'm glad I drove in and out as soon as I caught a whiff of the bacon.
Be safe out there fellas.
Business Travel this week, wanted a massage. Went to Evergreen, downtown. Saw Coco. You won't like the way it looks from the outside, but in was different. Great TS, GREAT massage, happy. A 10+ for me.
Went here recently. Met Linda. 4X nice Chinese lady. No TS, very good hard massage and some kind finish.
BTW, good if You are looking for good massage.
You should set appointment by phone before coming, it is some kind turn off.
Stay Safe,
Aman
Don't think it's a coincidence this occurred on 9/30. Probably some hapless sap needed another arrest to fill that end of quarter / fiscal year quota. Easy bust on a victimless crime.
[QUOTE=The Speaker;1288433]Went to Papaya Friday night to see girl Yuri. Mamason said she was arrested earlier that day for something (claimed she did not know for what). In turn that spooked some of the other girls and they left on there own. Only Bonnie and Jennifer were working only half and hour appointments only until get some more girls.[/QUOTE]
A friend of mine went to River in Centreville. The talent Yumi actually pulled out her Ipad and starting to try to convince him to join a pyramid scheme during the massage! She even asked for his SSN! Unbelieveable! Even though she has the most beautiful Jugs, I would have been pissed. I wonder if this is something the mamasan is pushing the girls to do? I haven't been back to that place since they only gave me half the time I paid for (see old post). I don't know who is running that place, but they are their own worst enemy.
Lovejugs
I guess you've got to make money somehow. I haven't been since my last review (some time in the early summer) , but if this is what's going on I'm probably not going back. No matter how close it is.
[QUOTE=Lovejugs; 1289711]A friend of mine went to River in Centreville. The talent Yumi actually pulled out her Ipad and starting to try to convince him to join a pyramid scheme during the massage! She even asked for his SSN! Unbelieveable! Even though she has the most beautiful Jugs, I would have been pissed. I wonder if this is something the mamasan is pushing the girls to do? I haven't been back to that place since they only gave me half the time I paid for (see old post). I don't know who is running that place, but they are their own worst enemy.
Lovejugs[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MoonView; 1287208]OK, I'll play let's find Yo-Yo, last seen about a month ago at MWC! See attached photo below as graciously provided by brother Hofi35.
Oh Yeah, this must be a "morning after" shot! .
MnV[/QUOTE]Woah! Definitely not the yo-yo I know from MWC. Yo-yo I know is younger and definitely hotter (I know hotness is subjective).
[QUOTE=Vamassage Fan;1286819]Plenty of bad reports if you do careful research.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I went there when they first opened, and they haven't changed. I will also say that even though there might be many bad reports about certain places, many of the places rotate on a frequent basis, so it could be up to just darn luck in getting good over bad.
Stopped by fccc. Too much focus on the local AMP scene recently. Again disappointed in the provider. The provider was in her 40's, lot of belly flab, sagging chest. Little head took over. She was pleasant and enthusiastic. Just wanted to get it over with and get out. Not worth a repeat.
G-man
NoVa's Asian massage parlors can be fronts for human sex trafficking, authorities say.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/novas-asian-massage-parlors-can-be-fronts-for-human-sex-trafficking-authorities-say/2011/10/03/gIQAeWO6IL_blog.html[/url]
Its election time
[QUOTE=Vamassage Fan; 1290315]NoVa's Asian massage parlors can be fronts for human sex trafficking, authorities say.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/novas-asian-massage-parlors-can-be-fronts-for-human-sex-trafficking-authorities-say/2011/10/03/gIQAeWO6IL_blog.html[/url]
Its election time[/QUOTE]This guy may be one frequent visitor himself. I don't trust him just on the way he looks. Massage polar has been around forever, and he is just bringing it up now?
[QUOTE=Vamassage Fan; 1290315]NoVa's Asian massage parlors can be fronts for human sex trafficking, authorities say.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/novas-asian-massage-parlors-can-be-fronts-for-human-sex-trafficking-authorities-say/2011/10/03/gIQAeWO6IL_blog.html[/url]
Its election time[/QUOTE]Reading that article almost makes me sick to my stomach. This whole notion of "human trafficking" and some sort of forced servitude / slavery by an organized criminal element is virtually 100% nonsense. I can speak from literal first hand experience that virtually all of these women (in the Korean AMPs. Which make up the vast vast majority) are 100% independent and working on their own accord. To include when they work, where they work, how long. Etc. There is no force involved whatsoever. There is no leadership. There is no criminal organization behind it. Yes, it is organized insofar as they all work via referral and connection. It is common that one of these older woman (who worked many years as an AMP girl) may very well now own her own spa / AMP (or a couple) so she has built up her "network" of friends and they work for together for their own mutual benefit. They all keep in touch and communicate and work at different spas for there own mutual benefit. They all "keep to themselves" and are secretive, obviously out of necessity. There is no controlling "head" or element in an organized crime manner however. Utter nonsense.
It is a perception of this. Only because of a culture difference and for those that want to perpetuate inaccuracies / false information for political leverage (this articles case). Yes. Quite often when they do work, it is usually the entire day. 7 days a week, for maybe a month or two or so at a time. They stay, quite often, in the AMP too. This is just how they do it. It is how they want to do it. It is a convenience and safety thing. It is a money thing. It is their culture. After hours, they socialize and relax (sometimes venturing out together to enjoy themselves after hours, run errands, etc.). They stick together. They do it this way because they are hard and honest workers. They do it this way because it attracts less attention by coming and going daily. They do it this way because they have a system that works.
They like that they can work in this manner for 2 or 3 months of the year. And conceivably vacation the rest. Many of these women have families and children and like that they can work 2 or 3 months a year and make, effectively, what a "normal" upper middle class worker in this country would make in an entire year of full time work. Some of them like that they can work 2 months, take a month off to relax. And repeat. They are quite often very frugal (there are cases of girls with drinking and gambling problems however). Maybe they'll do this for 6 to 8 years and then quite literally have enough to retire if they are wise with their money.
NOBODY IS GETTING HARMED. NOBODY IS A VICTIM (except for the gullible public masses that fall for propaganda like what is espoused in this article). Colossal waste of our tax dollars by LE. Victimless "crime". It sure makes a flashy platform for the Jim Bob running for political office (who I would bet my last dollar has / does frequent these places himself). The ignorant and jesus loves eat it up alike!
*Caveat: I'll admit that there may very well be VERY small pockets of abuse or coercion. But it is never in the Korean AMPs (again which make up the vast vast majority of AMPs). The rare latino or Russian places I've read about. I would not be surprised at all. But target those places. And make the effort to identify the real criminals behind them. Don't bother the women making a living for focks sake. If a woman is working via coercion. Then help her, don't make her a criminal.
I concur. I wonder when the raids will start? I remember seeing a girl show up in a BMW once.
[QUOTE=Richmond Mas;1290326]This guy may be one frequent visitor himself. I don't trust him just on the way he looks. Massage polar has been around forever, and he is just bringing it up now?[/QUOTE]LOL, he's been in Congress for 30+ years. He's just trying to earn some brownie points with the "family values" crowd. And yeah, he looks like he's seen the inside of a few "places of ill repute" in his day.
This is a bit concerning though:
[quote]The locations are uniformly bland and low-key, on the outside. One parlor in Merrifield, enthusiastically reviewed by several mongers, was in an apartment-style office complex on Route 50 near Gallows Road, but was not open late last week. Another, in an office park near Fairfax Circle, was open but the woman at the desk said she was only a cleaning lady, and that nothing illegal occurred there.
At an industrial park in Chantilly, another well-reviewed parlor was sandwiched in between body shops and tire stores. A sign on the door said it was on vacation for four weeks. In another office park in Chantilly, near a dentist's office and a day care center, no one was available to be interviewed, the woman at the front desk said.[/QUOTE]
Just a friendly reminder that Uncle LEO can read this forum just as easily as you can. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what spots are being talked about.
I love getting details as much as anyone else but. . .nobody wants to see their favorite spots closed down or their face in the Post.
[QUOTE=AKFourtySeven;1290949].I remember seeing a girl show up in a BMW once.[/QUOTE]Darn straight. Further. I know more than one woman personally in the business. As an example. Used to keep in touch a little (been a couple years though) with one. She is married, has adult children now, takes / took multiple nice vacations a year, has two houses paid for. A third only a small mortgage on (that was then. Probably paid for now) , nice luxury cars, children's college paid for and finished, nice cash nest egg, etc. She worked very hard (like 5-6 months out of a year) for about 8 years if I recall the time frame correctly. She hasn't worked now for a couple years as everything is paid for and her husbands modest income provides plenty for their daily needs. I, for one, admire the dedication these women have for their families. We should these types of people into our society. They are a net gain overall to our country / economy. They take nothing in terms of government services, are entirely self reliant and supportive, and overall add to our economy / society. Fat lazy self-entitled white and black American women could learn a thing or two from them on hard work and dedication to their families.
[QUOTE=DeuceSlim; 1290993].
Just a friendly reminder that Uncle LEO can read this forum just as easily as you can. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what spots are being talked about.
I love getting details as much as anyone else but. Nobody wants to see their favorite spots closed down or their face in the Post.[/QUOTE]This is really a red herring type of argument / effort. There is nothing LE already doesn't know already re: where and what. That they may find / read on here. I agree reasonable diligence is necessary on dealing with less established members (how many times have we seen the "new members" with one or two posts asking where they can go get "action". These guys obviously need to be ignored for obvious reasons) and also with publicly posting every last detail (PM among senior members can provide the nitty gritty). But, would urge folks NOT to discontinue contributing in fear. It just doesn't really make a difference. And I believe is ultimately a net gain for both the AMPs and us to continue.
[QUOTE=TivoTerry;1291021]This is really a red herring type of argument / effort. There is nothing LE already doesn't know already re: where and what. That they may find / read on here. I agree reasonable diligence is necessary on dealing with less established members (how many times have we seen the "new members" with one or two posts asking where they can go get "action". These guys obviously need to be ignored for obvious reasons) and also with publicly posting every last detail (PM among senior members can provide the nitty gritty). But, would urge folks NOT to discontinue contributing in fear. It just doesn't really make a difference. And I believe is ultimately a net gain for both the AMPs and us to continue.[/QUOTE]Oh, I agree. I wasn't saying for people to stop contributing, just be aware that there are a lot of extra eyes around here.
I concur with other posts on this topic so far and just wanted to add my $.02. Most AMP's hire women willing to work, and they tend to work hard for a short time and before cashing out. This is why there are always people on the board looking for his ATF, it's always possible she found greener grass, but more likely than not: she made enough money and quit the business temporarily or permenantly. I actually had a provider who wanted to be a masseuse (the legit kind) , and decided to work in AMP for a few months so she could gather enough capital to open her own business. I wouldn't be surprised there are women desperate for money turning to this, but I would be VERY VERY surprised if any of the places I have been to actually employ sex slaves like this article suggests. The providers would be Oscar-worthy actresses or liars. Because a lot of what we enjoy, is the attitude of the providers. I don't think most of us can have an enslaved, crying, upset and / or depressed provider and desire an HE from her. Case in point, if you walk into any AMP and ask for a provider who does FS, even if you are a regular, mamasan will always deny your request. If you find a providers willing and able, that's a different story because nobody forced her, but think about it, what kind of sex-slave brothel openly denies customers who want FS?
I have no doubt local operators actively recruit women who they know are in need of money. Questionable and / or possibly unethical business practice? Sure. Sex-slaving? Hardly! I think the biggest problem with Polaris' misconception about AMPs. They may read the forums, but they don't go into the AMPs as customers and don't see how the providers interact with customers and just simply don't know the whole picture.
Now the Latino (and / or Eastern European if there are any around here) operations, they are a different story as Tivoterry has suggested, and I wouldn't touch them with a 60-foot pole. Those are what Polaris and police should focus their energy upon if sex slave problem is what they really care about.
[QUOTE=Vamassage Fan; 1290315]NoVa's Asian massage parlors can be fronts for human sex trafficking, authorities say.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/novas-asian-massage-parlors-can-be-fronts-for-human-sex-trafficking-authorities-say/2011/10/03/gIQAeWO6IL_blog.html[/url]
Its election time[/QUOTE]