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Just had Hana at VIP. Couldn't tell from the accent. Basically got ripped off. Asked for a kiss, a little GFE. To warm me up, DATY, Titty play and got denied on all of that. Paid the full only because she let me stick it in but was definitely rushed in and out of there.

She literally took my pants off the hook so that I can grab the cash in the middle of the BJ. I shoulda put them back on at that point and left.

I'll chalk it up to being inexperienced, but DAMN I want to go back there just so I can pick another girl while the be*ch is sitting there.

On a related note, how do you guys deal with repeat visits and choosing a different girl?

I've been to PT 3x and had Laura, an older cougar and her service was good, not great, but GOOD. Nice sweet lady, but I hear so much about Mimi or Christy or the other young ones there and I want to sample, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that.

How do you guys go about dealing with that? Or am I just over thinking it?

[QUOTE=Uuf D Uki; 1417722]Just had Hana at VIP. Couldn't tell from the accent. Basically got ripped off. Asked for a kiss, a little GFE. To warm me up, DATY, Titty play and got denied on all of that. Paid the full only because she let me stick it in but was definitely rushed in and out of there.

She literally took my pants off the hook so that I can grab the cash in the middle of the BJ. I shoulda put them back on at that point and left.

I'll chalk it up to being inexperienced, but DAMN I want to go back there just so I can pick another girl while the be*ch is sitting there.

On a related note, how do you guys deal with repeat visits and choosing a different girl?

I've been to PT 3x and had Laura, an older cougar and her service was good, not great, but GOOD. Nice sweet lady, but I hear so much about Mimi or Christy or the other young ones there and I want to sample, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that.

How do you guys go about dealing with that? Or am I just over thinking it?[/QUOTE]Hate to say it but there are multiple negative reviews on Hana at VIP (in fact, one is from me). She is smoking hot but a total rip off, let the Japanese tourist have her. If you want a different girl, just man up and pick her out or if you are the more tactful type, just tell the mama which girl you want when she takes you to the room. Remember it's business. Unless the girl is giving you major extras. Then you might have o avoid the place if you don't want risks losing those extras.

[QUOTE=Uuf D Uki; 1417722]Just had Hana at VIP. Couldn't tell from the accent. Basically got ripped off. Asked for a kiss, a little GFE. To warm me up, DATY, Titty play and got denied on all of that. Paid the full only because she let me stick it in but was definitely rushed in and out of there.

She literally took my pants off the hook so that I can grab the cash in the middle of the BJ. I shoulda put them back on at that point and left.

I'll chalk it up to being inexperienced, but DAMN I want to go back there just so I can pick another girl while the be*ch is sitting there.

On a related note, how do you guys deal with repeat visits and choosing a different girl?

I've been to PT 3x and had Laura, an older cougar and her service was good, not great, but GOOD. Nice sweet lady, but I hear so much about Mimi or Christy or the other young ones there and I want to sample, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that.

How do you guys go about dealing with that? Or am I just over thinking it?[/QUOTE]Yea you are over thinking it. Just be a real man and walk in next time and pick another girl. By the way you were warned on Hana at VIP. She was reviewed here many times as being a waste of money. Pays to do your research. If I were you I would stay away from VIP. It is a tourist trap for Japanese tourists and service is consistently rushed and bad. If you want a sure thing with a beautiful girl go see Julie at Ginza. I would recommend seeing her early. I usually see her between the hours of 5-8 pm before all the loser drunks show up. You can't go wrong with her as long as you respect her and treat her like a queen. She will treat you like a king. She is my absolute favorite now even if the service is covered. But I bring my own condoms and she doesn't mind. And unlike other fools I never pay her upfront. I pay her what she is worth. I have given her varying amounts each time I have seen her depending on what she lets me get away with. But I never give her less than $1. 5. For a real good MILF recommendation I would see Kelly at Ichiban. She is always top notch service with me and absolutely the best body to body table shower ever. Bobbi at Ichiban runs a real close second. I have had them both and they are highly recommended.

Oh by the way you should copy and paste your post to the Massage Parlor section. That way it is filed properly.

[QUOTE=Uuf D Uki;1417722]On a related note, how do you guys deal with repeat visits and choosing a different girl? How do you guys go about dealing with that? Or am I just over thinking it?[/QUOTE]Just pick a different girl. That simple. Really can't overthink the process. I've never, ever had a provider get pissed or not take me next time. They don't only see you. Seriously, take Nike's advice. JUST DO IT!

[QUOTE=Uuf D Uki; 1417722]Just had Hana at VIP. Couldn't tell from the accent. Basically got ripped off. Asked for a kiss, a little GFE. To warm me up, DATY, Titty play and got denied on all of that. Paid the full only because she let me stick it in but was definitely rushed in and out of there.

She literally took my pants off the hook so that I can grab the cash in the middle of the BJ. I shoulda put them back on at that point and left.

I'll chalk it up to being inexperienced, but DAMN I want to go back there just so I can pick another girl while the be*ch is sitting there.

On a related note, how do you guys deal with repeat visits and choosing a different girl?

I've been to PT 3x and had Laura, an older cougar and her service was good, not great, but GOOD. Nice sweet lady, but I hear so much about Mimi or Christy or the other young ones there and I want to sample, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that.

How do you guys go about dealing with that? Or am I just over thinking it?[/QUOTE]Yeah you over thinking it. Just tell mama or the girl you want to try different girl this time. Its no big deal and they are used to that. Just be nice and a gentleman about it.

Yep. I would say your better off seeing more than one girl in a place vs the same one. It cool to have your favorite, but its also good to have some friend competition among girls and probably gets you better overall service. Its not like they care or would be jealous.

[QUOTE=Genji 808;1418142]Yeah you over thinking it. Just tell mama or the girl you want to try different girl this time. Its no big deal and they are used to that. Just be nice and a gentleman about it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Uuf D Uki;1417722]How do you guys go about dealing with that? Or am I just over thinking it?[/QUOTE]An AMP provider doesn't mind you seeing another girl. It's nothing personal to them. In fact, she may even suggest having you try other girls. No feel bad. Remember, it's all business. But, I can see your worry as you feel bad about the fact of picking another girl while Laura is there. She's going to think you're going to pick her again. Just pick someone else man. You just want to try someone different. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, its not like you guys are married.

[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1418450]Besides, its not like you guys are married.[/QUOTE]Yea, what he said. They don't get jealous. Unless they are Hana from Tokyo Spa or Ivy from GQ. Am I right? Anyone? Anyone?

[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck;1418473]Yea, what he said. They don't get jealous. Unless they are Hana from Tokyo Spa or Ivy from GQ. Am I right? Anyone? Anyone?[/QUOTE]Thank you everyone for showing the way. You guys rock.

Will definitely sample and report back on the experiences. Maybe as soon as TONIGHT! Na but definitely soon.

Thanks again my brothers.

[QUOTE=Uuf D Uki; 1417722]Just had Hana at VIP. Couldn't tell from the accent. Basically got ripped off. Asked for a kiss, a little GFE. To warm me up, DATY, Titty play and got denied on all of that. Paid the full only because she let me stick it in but was definitely rushed in and out of there.

She literally took my pants off the hook so that I can grab the cash in the middle of the BJ. I shoulda put them back on at that point and left.

I'll chalk it up to being inexperienced, but DAMN I want to go back there just so I can pick another girl while the be*ch is sitting there.

On a related note, how do you guys deal with repeat visits and choosing a different girl?

I've been to PT 3x and had Laura, an older cougar and her service was good, not great, but GOOD. Nice sweet lady, but I hear so much about Mimi or Christy or the other young ones there and I want to sample, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that.

How do you guys go about dealing with that? Or am I just over thinking it?[/QUOTE]You are not over thinking it. Think carefully about repeats in general and with your ATFs. Repeats are a double edged sword. On the one hand, you may have real comfort and rapport with a provider. You may be seeing her again because of discount she gives you. On the other hand, she is seeing you now as a "regular" customer of HERS. And money you give to another girl at the same AMP she will consider you giving her money away, especially if she has given you discount for repeats. She ain't going to be happy. The more times you have seen her the worse this is going to be when it happens. Three times with this Laura is not too bad. If you want to see others, break away from Laura now. Do it in a friendly and courteous manner. And be up front and straight about it. A little effort and awkwardness put in here would be better than any hints and second guessing and just sheer lying and avoiding it. Difficult and uncomfortable but honest communication will always be better than no communication. And an ugly truth is better than a pretty lie.

[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck;1418473]Yea, what he said. They don't get jealous. Am I right? Anyone? Anyone?[/QUOTE]I've run into drama a number of times, but just figured it was the girl's way of maximizing her piece of the pie.

Yo,

Them hoes get jealous. As several have told, me-they are woman, and woman get jealous. Why you think they move around? Sometimes its because they fight over clients, hehe. They forget that they play for pay-hoes.

All of them are hoes. Even the nice ones-hoes. Newbies-hoes. Friendly reminder to hoes and kids alike-play for pay its a game. No get personal.

Jb.

[QUOTE=H Mobius;1418514]I've run into drama a number of times, but just figured it was the girl's way of maximizing her piece of the pie.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=H Mobius; 1417009]Same one as Green Island from before, nice 2-bedroom place; there's turnover with the girls but sometimes they have good (fun-wise) ones. So it's kind of hit or miss.

Of course, massage-wise they are not as good as a Thai place, but I find a girl's gentle rubdown with lotion very relaxing.

They just reopened and are in the process of getting girls in. In the past there would be 3 or 4 girls at most. Some play is available, but with a new girl (usually they are new to the business) if she isn't comfortable may limit herself to being legit.

By the way,"Japanese / Chinese", is pretty much Chinese and not older than early 30's I'd guess.[/QUOTE]TOFTT just the other day and you are right, massage is not very good, actually you can get more of a massage by rubbing your back against a roof supporting beam than here. As for the other parts.

Basic relaxation massage thing. Had the girl in the picture Kathy I think. Tried to get it going with some kissing but no can do. Went straight to licking her tits and tried to encourage her to BJ but non such luck. Opted for wham bam thank you mam and she was moaning and wet but basically a bore. Nice tits, body just a bit chunkier than I like them but I would say 130 pounds, face what you see in the photo, tits 34b, attitude 6, overall 5, would not repeat, which is why I am writing this post. Total damage $$.

Aloha and be safe.

007

[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck;1418473]Yea, what he said. They don't get jealous. Unless they are Hana from Tokyo Spa or Ivy from GQ. Am I right? Anyone? Anyone?[/QUOTE]They get jealous, just they won't show their displeasure towards the customer but to the provider. To my understanding Pink has had that problem in the past.

[QUOTE=Blade82;1418922]They get jealous, just they won't show their displeasure towards the customer but to the provider. To my understanding Pink has had that problem in the past.[/QUOTE]These AMP girls have feelings just like civilian women. Depending on the AMP girl, she may get jealous as she will wonder why you don't pick her when you've been seeing her consecutively. She may think you don't like her and her service anymore. Therefore, you decided to see someone else. Even though it's a business thing, feelings can evolve. I don't have repeat visits enough these days for this to even occur. These women in general do get jealous even though they may say they don't feel bothered by it. They deny it, but inside, they are. Heh, even if you're not her BF or husband, they still get jealous. I guess they don't feel so special once you take away the attention. They're taken off the pedestal. But shit, you can see someone else if you want to.

In thinking about this I think uki is also right but it depends on the girl you repeat with. I tent to think the top tier girls will not get jealous as they will know you will want to go back to them even after sampling another. Tends to make a return session all that much better.

Some of my favs that I seen regularly (Skye, Channel, Miki / Hana) all would actually suggest or even ask me if I wanted to see another girl. Maybe I saw them to much and they got tired of me? Never felt a hint of jealously from them.

On the flip side I once went to Seven looking for a fav who was not there. I declined Coco who was easily the hottest one there as well as the rest of the girls. But ask if I could have the short homely Mama who declined me. All this in front of coco and a few other girls. I thinking back may not have been the smartest move. But I got the feeling that Coco was pissed. I also got the feeling the the MS was not. LOL.

I am sure it exist but jealousy needs to be taking out of the equation from all parties. Do I get jealous when my fav is getting pounded all night by you guys. Hell no. Should be same for the girls too.

[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1418974]These AMP girls have feelings just like civilian women. Depending on the AMP girl, she may get jealous as she will wonder why you don't pick her when you've been seeing her consecutively. She may think you don't like her and her service anymore. Therefore, you decided to see someone else. Even though it's a business thing, feelings can evolve. I don't have repeat visits enough these days for this to even occur. These women in general do get jealous even though they may say they don't feel bothered by it. They deny it, but inside, they are. Heh, even if you're not her BF or husband, they still get jealous. I guess they don't feel so special once you take away the attention. They're taken off the pedestal. But shit, you can see someone else if you want to.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1418974]I guess they don't feel so special once you take away the attention. They're taken off the pedestal. But shit, you can see someone else if you want to.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, same advice should apply to bar mongerers too.

[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1418974]These AMP girls have feelings just like civilian women. Depending on the AMP girl, she may get jealous as she will wonder why you don't pick her when you've been seeing her consecutively. She may think you don't like her and her service anymore. Therefore, you decided to see someone else. Even though it's a business thing, feelings can evolve. I don't have repeat visits enough these days for this to even occur. These women in general do get jealous even though they may say they don't feel bothered by it. They deny it, but inside, they are. Heh, even if you're not her BF or husband, they still get jealous. I guess they don't feel so special once you take away the attention. They're taken off the pedestal. But shit, you can see someone else if you want to.[/QUOTE]I've read in a few places that after having sex with a man a few times, a woman tends to develop a sort of mental attachment with that man, whether they are aware of it or not. From my experience with friends with benefits, this tends to happen over time even if they say it's no strings attached. Men don't appear to be hard wired the same way.

[QUOTE=Incogfilipino;1419173]I've read in a few places that after having sex with a man a few times, a woman tends to develop a sort of mental attachment with that man, whether they are aware of it or not. From my experience with friends with benefits, this tends to happen over time even if they say it's no strings attached. Men don't appear to be hard wired the same way.[/QUOTE]Yup. I was in that situation as well as several of my friends. I'm sure a number of guys out there were to. At first, the girl don't mind having sex with no strings attached. But eventually, as time passes, the girl gets grown to liking you and then she starts mentioning other things to see if it can evolve into something more than just a physical thing. They see you as a potential BF.

[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1419195]Yup. I was in that situation as well as several of my friends. I'm sure a number of guys out there were to. At first, the girl don't mind having sex with no strings attached. But eventually, as time passes, the girl gets grown to liking you and then she starts mentioning other things to see if it can evolve into something more than just a physical thing. They see you as a potential BF.[/QUOTE]Well, nothing could ever been proven between the relative weight of nature or nurture, but common consensus is that man and woman are hardwired differently. Whether civilian or pros, women are women and they feel the way they do. Kinda explain why DFK could never be a standard AMP dish on the menu, doesn't it? I was with Yumi at Kison (no report) and she was game for BBFS but quite reluctant about LFK let alone DFK. Men and women just have a different perspective about intimacy. All the more reason why we should not take for granted the providers who allow for DFK.

Is the MT thread the new MP thread now?

...But maybe need to start a thread dedicated to this issue? Don't mean to be a spoilsport.

[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1418974]These AMP girls have feelings just like civilian women. Depending on the AMP girl, she may get jealous as she will wonder why you don't pick her when you've been seeing her consecutively. She may think you don't like her and her service anymore. Therefore, you decided to see someone else. Even though it's a business thing, feelings can evolve. I don't have repeat visits enough these days for this to even occur. These women in general do get jealous even though they may say they don't feel bothered by it. They deny it, but inside, they are. Heh, even if you're not her BF or husband, they still get jealous. I guess they don't feel so special once you take away the attention. They're taken off the pedestal. But shit, you can see someone else if you want to.[/QUOTE]Other mongers have already chimed in on this, but yes, women ARE hardwired differently from men. Sex is more than just sport for them (at least some of the time) , so the green monster may eventually rear its head. But also from a purely economic standpoint, if you're a regular (or even semi-regular) patron of one girl and you suddenly change vendors, that's lost revenue and market share. IMHO ultimately it's your dime-see who you want. Not to sound insensitive, as I do treat each provider I see with respect (remember they're still human beings) , however I'm spending a little too much $$$ to worry about hurt feelings.

[QUOTE=Blake123;1419244].But maybe need to start a thread dedicated to this issue? Don't mean to be a spoilsport.[/QUOTE]Sorry about that. You have a point. This is a MT thread

[QUOTE=Blake123;1419244].But maybe need to start a thread dedicated to this issue? Don't mean to be a spoilsport.[/QUOTE]No need to start a new thread, just move it to Mind of a Korean Working Girl. Too many threads already.

[QUOTE=Blake123;1419244].But maybe need to start a thread dedicated to this issue? Don't mean to be a spoilsport.[/QUOTE]Black123. Couldn't agree more!

Just wondering as I saw somewhere in the postings about how many of us regular old time mongers have their favorite MT or LMT that does extras for them and don't want to share this info on the board for fear of problems with that particular LMT / MT or apprentice. Simple poll Yes I do or No I don't.

I will start with YES I do.

Don't wish to share their names as they would get fired immediately and possibly lose their hard earned MT License (s).

As for the other relaxation stuff well that is different as most girls don't have licenses.

For you "old-timers" on USG remember when MS was at Ala Moana hotel? Back in the late 70's. Well this USG service was not available, heck the internet wasn't even around until Al Gore invented it. Remember Audrey, Montana, Goose, Dixie, Rosie, or how about Patrica when MT expanded to McCully and Kapiolani across from McCully shopping center. Gosh those were the good old days when you had to do your own recon and actually be nice and work the girl. Now just ask or search the board and every scuttlebutt you want to know pops up, details and all. Which is why I hate to admit but I keep my hard earned prizes to myself. I could tell you details about girls that you all report as NON-Givers but actually they do put out and more. I know many on the board will rip me for saying this but guys, be nice, work the girl, especially if they are MT or LMT girls and not just relaxation girls which you know you will be getting some anyway. The other MT / LMT girls have a lot to lose and also face fines if their info gets broadcasted for all to see. Remember LE also reads this stuff.

I am older (not OLD) and kind of still enjoy the "hunt" as you might say and enjoy a good massage first and then whatever happens happens. Be nice to the girls, treat them with respect and compliments and you never know what might happen. Tip well and smile.

Aloha and Be safe.

007

[QUOTE=Hawaiian007; 1419479]Just wondering as I saw somewhere in the postings about how many of us regular old time mongers have their favorite MT or LMT that does extras for them and don't want to share this info on the board for fear of problems with that particular LMT / MT or apprentice. Simple poll Yes I do or No I don't.

I will start with YES I do.

Don't wish to share their names as they would get fired immediately and possibly lose their hard earned MT License (s).

As for the other relaxation stuff well that is different as most girls don't have licenses.

For you "old-timers" on USG remember when MS was at Ala Moana hotel? Back in the late 70's. Well this USG service was not available, heck the internet wasn't even around until Al Gore invented it. Remember Audrey, Montana, Goose, Dixie, Rosie, or how about Patrica when MT expanded to McCully and Kapiolani across from McCully shopping center. Gosh those were the good old days when you had to do your own recon and actually be nice and work the girl. Now just ask or search the board and every scuttlebutt you want to know pops up, details and all. Which is why I hate to admit but I keep my hard earned prizes to myself. I could tell you details about girls that you all report as NON-Givers but actually they do put out and more. I know many on the board will rip me for saying this but guys, be nice, work the girl, especially if they are MT or LMT girls and not just relaxation girls which you know you will be getting some anyway. The other MT / LMT girls have a lot to lose and also face fines if their info gets broadcasted for all to see. Remember LE also reads this stuff.

I am older (not OLD) and kind of still enjoy the "hunt" as you might say and enjoy a good massage first and then whatever happens happens. Be nice to the girls, treat them with respect and compliments and you never know what might happen. Tip well and smile.

Aloha and Be safe.

***************

No question, no doubt. There are wayyy to many posters on this board who do not add information, only ask questions and expect detailed answers. Way too many newbies who will not TOFTT. Ever. They don't deserve information it's taken vets years to acquire. Most of all, I would never screw up a great relationship with a provider for anonymous posters who do not contribute themselves.

[QUOTE=Hawaiian007; 1419479]Just wondering as I saw somewhere in the postings about how many of us regular old time mongers have their favorite MT or LMT that does extras for them and don't want to share this info on the board for fear of problems with that particular LMT / MT or apprentice. Simple poll Yes I do or No I don't.

I will start with YES I do.

"... I hate to admit but I keep my hard earned prizes to myself. I could tell you details about girls that you all report as NON-Givers but actually they do put out and more."

007[/QUOTE]I'm just dying to know. It's OK to PM me. Your secret is safe with me.

[QUOTE=Hawaiian007; 1419479]Just wondering as I saw somewhere in the postings about how many of us regular old time mongers have their favorite MT or LMT that does extras for them and don't want to share this info on the board for fear of problems with that particular LMT / MT or apprentice. Simple poll Yes I do or No I don't.

I will start with YES I do.

Don't wish to share their names as they would get fired immediately and possibly lose their hard earned MT License (s).

As for the other relaxation stuff well that is different as most girls don't have licenses.

For you "old-timers" on USG remember when MS was at Ala Moana hotel? Back in the late 70's. Well this USG service was not available, heck the internet wasn't even around until Al Gore invented it. Remember Audrey, Montana, Goose, Dixie, Rosie, or how about Patrica when MT expanded to McCully and Kapiolani across from McCully shopping center. Gosh those were the good old days when you had to do your own recon and actually be nice and work the girl. Now just ask or search the board and every scuttlebutt you want to know pops up, details and all. Which is why I hate to admit but I keep my hard earned prizes to myself. I could tell you details about girls that you all report as NON-Givers but actually they do put out and more. I know many on the board will rip me for saying this but guys, be nice, work the girl, especially if they are MT or LMT girls and not just relaxation girls which you know you will be getting some anyway. The other MT / LMT girls have a lot to lose and also face fines if their info gets broadcasted for all to see. Remember LE also reads this stuff.

I am older (not OLD) and kind of still enjoy the "hunt" as you might say and enjoy a good massage first and then whatever happens happens. Be nice to the girls, treat them with respect and compliments and you never know what might happen. Tip well and smile.

Aloha and Be safe.

007[/QUOTE]This is very strange and weird. Kinda twisted and warped. Sorry no offence intended. Searching for a happying ending at a massage place of some kind and negotiating a fee seems to be the sorry lot of mongers in every city on the mainland because they do NOT have relaxation places. But we luckily do in Honolulu, but there are people here who go on such a search and enjoy the process in spite of the relaxation places? I cannot fathom. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1418974]These AMP girls have feelings just like civilian women. Depending on the AMP girl, she may get jealous as she will wonder why you don't pick her when you've been seeing her consecutively. She may think you don't like her and her service anymore. Therefore, you decided to see someone else. Even though it's a business thing, feelings can evolve. I don't have repeat visits enough these days for this to even occur. These women in general do get jealous even though they may say they don't feel bothered by it. They deny it, but inside, they are. Heh, even if you're not her BF or husband, they still get jealous. I guess they don't feel so special once you take away the attention. They're taken off the pedestal. But shit, you can see someone else if you want to.[/QUOTE]This is common as women are not wired like us guys bang and move on. I even had a few LMTs who got very jealous when I got massaged (legit) from another girl. I got the feeling it wasn't just about the money / business. It was kind of lie, hey, why you touching my man. Women are just like that. That's why get plenty cat fights among best of girlfriends.

I use to get legit massages from that school on the 21st floor of CC. The japanese nationals get clingy when you repeat often. They always asked what my plans were for the weekend, do I have a gf, hints to take them out. A few even bought me those little japanese gifts. Maybe they were interested or maybe they just wanted a green card.

[QUOTE=Kekehawaii; 1420045]This is common as women are not wired like us guys bang and move on. I even had a few LMTs who got very jealous when I got massaged (legit) from another girl. I got the feeling it wasn't just about the money / business. It was kind of lie, hey, why you touching my man. Women are just like that. That's why get plenty cat fights among best of girlfriends.

I use to get legit massages from that school on the 21st floor of CC. The japanese nationals get clingy when you repeat often. They always asked what my plans were for the weekend, do I have a gf, hints to take them out. A few even bought me those little japanese gifts. Maybe they were interested or maybe they just wanted a green card.[/QUOTE]Hmm. I bet I'm not the only one who would like more info on that Japanese MT school.

[QUOTE=Kekehawaii; 1420045]This is common as women are not wired like us guys bang and move on. I even had a few LMTs who got very jealous when I got massaged (legit) from another girl. I got the feeling it wasn't just about the money / business. It was kind of lie, hey, why you touching my man. Women are just like that. That's why get plenty cat fights among best of girlfriends.

I use to get legit massages from that school on the 21st floor of CC. The japanese nationals get clingy when you repeat often. They always asked what my plans were for the weekend, do I have a gf, hints to take them out. A few even bought me those little japanese gifts. Maybe they were interested or maybe they just wanted a green card.[/QUOTE]What school is on the 21st floor? Is there a name and number?

[QUOTE=Mogo Master;1420073]What school is on the 21st floor? Is there a name and number?[/QUOTE]Here's a link to the massage school that used to be on the 21st floor. Apparently, they've moved to the 30th floor.

[url]http://www.hawaiimassageacademy.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Ocolumbo;1419864]This is very strange and weird. Kinda twisted and warped. Sorry no offence intended. Searching for a happying ending at a massage place of some kind and negotiating a fee seems to be the sorry lot of mongers in every city on the mainland because they do NOT have relaxation places. But we luckily do in Honolulu, but there are people here who go on such a search and enjoy the process in spite of the relaxation places? I cannot fathom. Sorry.[/QUOTE]Some people could go to the fish market, and some people rather go fishing, same ideology applies.

[QUOTE=Ocolumbo;1419864]This is very strange and weird. Kinda twisted and warped. Sorry no offence intended. Searching for a happying ending at a massage place of some kind and negotiating a fee seems to be the sorry lot of mongers in every city on the mainland because they do NOT have relaxation places. But we luckily do in Honolulu, but there are people here who go on such a search and enjoy the process in spite of the relaxation places? I cannot fathom. Sorry.[/QUOTE]Maybe because when one receives what they expect to receive, it's not as exciting (or even at all) as when they don't expect it or think it's not going to happen.

Personally I find that K-AMPs aren't exciting anymore unless the girl will jump right into the sex. If the session is 'scripted' I find it boring; I know (or at least I hope I won't pick a dud) I'll get sex. This is one reason her ability to give GFE is important. If an MT allows roaming or fondles, that is way more exciting because I wasn't expecting that behavior as the majority are strictly legit and don't allow so much as a finger caressing a knee.

Same thing with strip bars; it isn't exciting at all and I can sit there and not pay attention, but if the wind blows a pretty girl's dress up at the mall and I see her crotch or ass, or her clingy skirt rode up her buns on standing up after bending over or squatting and she doesn't mind, I'm in love :).

A lot of us on this Forum are strange, weird, twisted and/or warped; that's why many of us are here and I'm no exception. I wouldn't really say I'm twisted, but I'm pretty warped :)

[QUOTE=H Mobius; 1420383]Maybe because when one receives what they expect to receive, it's not as exciting (or even at all) as when they don't expect it or think it's not going to happen.

Personally I find that K-AMPs aren't exciting anymore unless the girl will jump right into the sex. If the session is 'scripted' I find it boring; I know (or at least I hope I won't pick a dud) I'll get sex. This is one reason her ability to give GFE is important. If an MT allows roaming or fondles, that is way more exciting because I wasn't expecting that behavior as the majority are strictly legit and don't allow so much as a finger caressing a knee.

Same thing with strip bars; it isn't exciting at all and I can sit there and not pay attention, but if the wind blows a pretty girl's dress up at the mall and I see her crotch or ass, or her clingy skirt rode up her buns on standing up after bending over or squatting and she doesn't mind, I'm in love.

A lot of us on this Forum are strange, weird, twisted and / or warped; that's why many of us are here and I'm no exception. I wouldn't really say I'm twisted, but I'm pretty warped.[/QUOTE]It's the mystery of not knowing and it being unexpected is what makes it exciting. If it becomes predictable, it gets boring.

[QUOTE=Hawaiian007; 1419479]Just wondering as I saw somewhere in the postings about how many of us regular old time mongers have their favorite MT or LMT that does extras for them and don't want to share this info on the board for fear of problems with that particular LMT / MT or apprentice. Simple poll Yes I do or No I don't.

I will start with YES I do.

Don't wish to share their names as they would get fired immediately and possibly lose their hard earned MT License (s).

As for the other relaxation stuff well that is different as most girls don't have licenses.

For you "old-timers" on USG remember when MS was at Ala Moana hotel? Back in the late 70's. Well this USG service was not available, heck the internet wasn't even around until Al Gore invented it. Remember Audrey, Montana, Goose, Dixie, Rosie, or how about Patrica when MT expanded to McCully and Kapiolani across from McCully shopping center. Gosh those were the good old days when you had to do your own recon and actually be nice and work the girl. Now just ask or search the board and every scuttlebutt you want to know pops up, details and all. Which is why I hate to admit but I keep my hard earned prizes to myself. I could tell you details about girls that you all report as NON-Givers but actually they do put out and more. I know many on the board will rip me for saying this but guys, be nice, work the girl, especially if they are MT or LMT girls and not just relaxation girls which you know you will be getting some anyway. The other MT / LMT girls have a lot to lose and also face fines if their info gets broadcasted for all to see. Remember LE also reads this stuff.

I am older (not OLD) and kind of still enjoy the "hunt" as you might say and enjoy a good massage first and then whatever happens happens. Be nice to the girls, treat them with respect and compliments and you never know what might happen. Tip well and smile.

Aloha and Be safe.

007[/QUOTE]Well said. I also enjoy a really good massage first.

[QUOTE=Honven;1420260]Some people could go to the fish market, and some people rather go fishing, same ideology applies.[/QUOTE]I would say going fishing would be trying to score at clubs and bars and starbucks and bookstores and libraries and churches, without "paying" for it. And if AMP is a well known fish market, looking for a MP with play would be more akin to finding a lesser known or unknown fish market. Still got to pay if found.