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[QUOTE=OldCarGuy69;1930034]I consider myself a semi-regular of Debbie although it has been about 2 months since I have been able to get to see her. She is very cautious on the first visit, and then is much more fun. While her physique might not be for everyone, a 4-hand with Margie is a GREAT time.[/QUOTE]I was under the impression that Debbie was out of the business...am I wrong?
[QUOTE=StlRambler;1931674]My first Visit to her was great as well. Thought I had found a sane regular provider I could depend on. It went down hill quickly after that. Second visit I showed up and she text me she needed another ten minutes. Then another ten. I finally got in the office and she said she was running behind. No big deal. Third visit more of the same, after I dis-robed she said she would be right back and left the room. Gone for another ten min. I finally got up went out to look for her. She was out in the other room texting away. She acted like it was no big deal. Came back in and gave me a ten-fifteen min massage, then ending and the party was over. I figure I was actually on her table for twenty-twenty-five minutes. If she was about .4 to .5 cheaper this would not be a problem but for my Ben Franklin I like a little more consistency. Just me.
Rambler[/QUOTE]NO, Rambler! It is NOT just you. This is why I stopped seeing her! After 6 or 8 visits, her punctuality was sliding from spotty to crappy. This has been reported here and elsewhere.
It occurs to me that without feedback, none of us improves at our jobs, and most of us humans revert to laziness and worse. So, what to do? Stop seeing her. That's the easy thing. But maybe it would be better if we gave her some feedback and told her the truth!
A) You charge a premium fee for a half hour service, when it's supposed to be an hour. Or at least a 50-55 minute "professional hour." (Like therapists, who need time to prepare briefly between clients).
Be) We guys (most of us) have careers and schedules and other appointments in our lives that are critical to us, so the timing is important. If it's a noon appointment, we should be shown into the room to disrobe and lay down at NOON! Not whenever her on-going ten minute recurring drama sessions allows her to grace us with admittance. (In fact, the last time I tried to meet up, she completely ignored my knocking at the door, even though I knew she was inside, as I saw the last guy just leaving the door as I was at the top of her stairway).
See) She isn't exactly in the middle of the StL region. If she were in say, Clayton or Creve Coeur, it's pretty central and maybe a 15-20 minutes drive time there or back from most of the metro population. She's 15 minutes past the Blanchette Bridges, so it adds a half hour to the round trip drive for many guys. (Granted if you live in St. Charles, she's convenient. My point is about her location being a bit more of a drive for the majority).
THE MAIN SUGGESTION: On her Backpage ad, there is a button to CLICK HERE for a reply. [URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/dont-worry-be-happy-41/5334562[/URL]. Let's assume she actually reads her email now and then.
So instead of just calling her, you can type out a helpful (if a bit angry!) bit of feedback to Jenny. I will do just that this evening, from my "monger email," as the point is to not poison any one relationship with her or to get her riled up at YOU or ME in particular. Although, if you choose to do so, it's just fine with me! If several guys tell her how they feel, maybe she'll grow up and realize a clock is a good thing in the business world. Same concept might light a fire under Nikki in Clayton, too! God knows she is even worse than St. Charles Jenny.
Makes a guy appreciate the ladies like Jenn (the Hazelwood Jenny), who do a good job, too, but who also time their sessions professionally. I'd include Faro, Arianna, Karen, Rhonda, Christina, and some others. If I'm late for my noon appointment, and we start at say, 12:15 pm, I don't expect her to continue my session until 1:15 pm. I expect she'll wind things up before 1 pm, so I'm out of there as the next client arrives. Duh!? This isn't so hard that a 5th grader would get befuddled over the concept of BEING ON TIME!!
Rant over. You may now return to your regularly scheduled light reading.
LTB.
[QUOTE=Lovethatbob;1932266]NO, Rambler! It is NOT just you. This is why I stopped seeing her! After 6 or 8 visits, her punctuality was sliding from spotty to crappy. This has been reported here and elsewhere.
It occurs to me that without feedback, none of us improves at our jobs, and most of us humans revert to laziness and worse. So, what to do? Stop seeing her. That's the easy thing. But maybe it would be better if we gave her some feedback and told her the truth!
A) You charge a premium fee for a half hour service, when it's supposed to be an hour. Or at least a 50-55 minute "professional hour." (Like therapists, who need time to prepare briefly between clients).
Be) We guys (most of us) have careers and schedules and other appointments in our lives that are critical to us, so the timing is important. If it's a noon appointment, we should be shown into the room to disrobe and lay down at NOON! Not whenever her on-going ten minute recurring drama sessions allows her to grace us with admittance. (In fact, the last time I tried to meet up, she completely ignored my knocking at the door, even though I knew she was inside, as I saw the last guy just leaving the door as I was at the top of her stairway).
See) She isn't exactly in the middle of the StL region. If she were in say, Clayton or Creve Coeur, it's pretty central and maybe a 15-20 minutes drive time there or back from most of the metro population. She's 15 minutes past the Blanchette Bridges, so it adds a half hour to the round trip drive for many guys. (Granted if you live in St. Charles, she's convenient. My point is about her location being a bit more of a drive for the majority).
THE MAIN SUGGESTION: On her Backpage ad, there is a button to CLICK HERE for a reply. [URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/dont-worry-be-happy-41/5334562[/URL]. Let's assume she actually reads her email now and then.
So instead of just calling her, you can type out a helpful (if a bit angry!) bit of feedback to Jenny. I will do just that this evening, from my "monger email," as the point is to not poison any one relationship with her or to get her riled up at YOU or ME in particular. Although, if you choose to do so, it's just fine with me! If several guys tell her how they feel, maybe she'll grow up and realize a clock is a good thing in the business world. Same concept might light a fire under Nikki in Clayton, too! God knows she is even worse than St. Charles Jenny.
Makes a guy appreciate the ladies like Jenn (the Hazelwood Jenny), who do a good job, too, but who also time their sessions professionally. I'd include Faro, Arianna, Karen, Rhonda, Christina, and some others. If I'm late for my noon appointment, and we start at say, 12:15 pm, I don't expect her to continue my session until 1:15 pm. I expect she'll wind things up before 1 pm, so I'm out of there as the next client arrives. Duh!? This isn't so hard that a 5th grader would get befuddled over the concept of BEING ON TIME!!
Rant over. You may now return to your regularly scheduled light reading.
LTB.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure she starts out with a bang then goes down hill. A bit un youthful for me even if she is in her 40's. Got that Mom thing going. The corporate dew doesn't work either. Kind of like a Bank Teller in S.County. Not my type.
Made my first visit to Sharon today. Yes she is older / mature. Very nice neighborhood with side entrance to massage room. Nice set up with table and options for Music or TV. She offers HE in the beginning and another HE at the end of massage. This is a first for my experience. The massage was excellent and she is not a clock watcher. I believe the hour went over by 10 minutes. She does not like breast massage or kitty play, however she does offer a 4 hand with ladies that allow full touch. .8 for the hour. I will be a regular.
[QUOTE=Drillermann55;1932389]Made my first visit to Sharon today. Yes she is older / mature. Very nice neighborhood with side entrance to massage room. Nice set up with table and options for Music or TV. She offers HE in the beginning and another HE at the end of massage. This is a first for my experience. The massage was excellent and she is not a clock watcher. I believe the hour went over by 10 minutes. She does not like breast massage or kitty play, however she does offer a 4 hand with ladies that allow full touch. .8 for the hour. I will be a regular.[/QUOTE]Who is the gal she does a 4 hand with? Can anyone describe her? I haven't seen Sharon in years and D-Man sums it up pretty well. I've never done the 4 hand with Sharon but will try if her "partner" is something to look at.
Flying in Dec 2 for business and staying downtown. Anyone have suggestions for outcall to downtown. Been scrolling BP, here and eccie. If any ladies are up for it, let me know. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Drillermann55;1932389]Made my first visit to Sharon today. Yes she is older / mature. Very nice neighborhood with side entrance to massage room. Nice set up with table and options for Music or TV. She offers HE in the beginning and another HE at the end of massage. This is a first for my experience. The massage was excellent and she is not a clock watcher. I believe the hour went over by 10 minutes. She does not like breast massage or kitty play, however she does offer a 4 hand with ladies that allow full touch. .8 for the hour. I will be a regular.[/QUOTE]Can someone PM me Sharon's number? I'm heading to soco thanksgiving week and want to give her a try.
Visited this Asian gal in St Chuck.
It is rather unfortunate for us all that she is a LMT. She would be a definite keeper.
Seemed very professional and no hint of any play. Very attractive young woman. I'd say early / mid twenties. If she said 20 I'd buy it. Not a fantastic massage by any means, but I may venture that way again sometime just because she was so cute. Actually spoke English pretty well. If any of you visit and discover more is to be had, hurry back and PM me right away.
[QUOTE=Fbm014;1935310]Visited this Asian gal in St Chuck.
It is rather unfortunate for us all that she is a LMT. She would be a definite keeper.
Seemed very professional and no hint of any play. Very attractive young woman. I'd say early / mid twenties. If she said 20 I'd buy it. Not a fantastic massage by any means, but I may venture that way again sometime just because she was so cute. Actually spoke English pretty well. If any of you visit and discover more is to be had, hurry back and PM me right away.[/QUOTE]Saw her 2 nights ago. She is VERY cute with an incredible bod. She was nearing the end of my massage when some moron showed up 20 minutes early for his appointment. Totally busted up the moment but will try this one again soon.
She mentioned there were 2 girls to choose from. One was a larger girl and they both allow roaming hands, where Sharon does not.
[QUOTE=Drillermann55;1935357]She mentioned there were 2 girls to choose from. One was a larger girl and they both allow roaming hands, where Sharon does not.[/QUOTE]It helps to have a reference about whom you speak.
[QUOTE=Stlffej;1935334]Saw her 2 nights ago. She is VERY cute with an incredible bod. She was nearing the end of my massage when some moron showed up 20 minutes early for his appointment. Totally busted up the moment but will try this one again soon.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed Cute. If you can get more then a massage then your a bigger man then me. Zero hint of that and a pretty good rub. No inner thigh wk or much of it.
[QUOTE=Jfouquet;1934976]Who is the gal she does a 4 hand with? Can anyone describe her? I haven't seen Sharon in years and D-Man sums it up pretty well. I've never done the 4 hand with Sharon but will try if her "partner" is something to look at.[/QUOTE]I did a 4 hand with Sharon about a year ago. The lady was a older bbw with looks of a 1. Offered a french lesson but no cim. French lesson was about a 5.
[QUOTE=Magnificent8;1935277]Can someone PM me Sharon's number? I'm heading to soco thanksgiving week and want to give her a try.[/QUOTE]I would also like Sharon's number if someone could please PM me. I saw her years ago when she way out in Wentzville, great massage.
[QUOTE=Rocket2323;1935205]Flying in Dec 2 for business and staying downtown. Anyone have suggestions for outcall to downtown. Been scrolling BP, here and eccie. If any ladies are up for it, let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Go with Kendra or Angel with the Girls Next Door crew for near downtown. They are a forum fave here, and the girls are pretty, sane, and safe. Kendra has a little more meat on her bones, I would go with Angel, who is hot as hell and very well reviewed here and elsewhere. Call Lake from the BP ad, and be nice to her, she is a sweetheart but a busy lady, so know your schedule when you call and you'll have a better chance at getting an appt.
Don't have any more info on the 2 girls for the4 hand. I did not partake. Sharon is the Sharon in SOCO. Hope that answers your?
[QUOTE=PilotPete;1935524]It helps to have a reference about whom you speak.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Stanwatson82;1935610]I did a 4 hand with Sharon about a year ago. The lady was a older bbw with looks of a 1. Offered a french lesson but no cim. French lesson was about a 5.[/QUOTE]The younger, sort of cute Korean gal she used to work with is still around too. She now is working on her own. $125 massage plus FS and worth the price of admission. She only posts when she is working. Search BP for the name Samantha. Uses email for a response. Sharon's number is 749-627 x. X rhymes with jive.
[QUOTE=BillBradsky;1936883]The younger, sort of cute Korean gal she used to work with is still around too. She now is working on her own. $125 massage plus FS and worth the price of admission. She only posts when she is working. Search BP for the name Samantha. Uses email for a response. Sharon's number is 749-627 x. X rhymes with jive.[/QUOTE]Hey Bill. I search and nothing came up. Really like this girl. Was seeing pretty regularly. Phone was discounted too. Is she really back on the seen.
[QUOTE=BillBradsky;1936883]The younger, sort of cute Korean gal she used to work with is still around too. She now is working on her own. $125 massage plus FS and worth the price of admission. She only posts when she is working. Search BP for the name Samantha. Uses email for a response. Sharon's number is 749-627 x. X rhymes with jive.[/QUOTE]This Samantha?
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/topless-massage-dds-petite-and-curvey-24/12465415[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sarcasticles;1937200]This Samantha?
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/topless-massage-dds-petite-and-curvey-24/12465415[/URL][/QUOTE]That Samantha is not Korean and has always worked alone, so I doubt it.
[QUOTE=Sarcasticles;1937200]This Samantha?
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/topless-massage-dds-petite-and-curvey-24/12465415[/URL][/QUOTE]Samantha. Never had bolton's like that or tats. Plus she is Asian. Champion BBJs. Best I ever had. Still day dream about them. Never missed a drop.
Somebody please tell me this Ashley is real...
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hot-young-babe-with-the-best-body-rubs-in-town-20/12337407[/URL]
[QUOTE=Train88;1937380]Somebody please tell me this Ashley is real...
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hot-young-babe-with-the-best-body-rubs-in-town-20/12337407[/URL][/QUOTE]See post 3463 under backpage advertisers.
[QUOTE=Brad243;1937070]Hey Bill. I search and nothing came up. Really like this girl. Was seeing pretty regularly. Phone was discounted too. Is she really back on the seen.[/QUOTE]Search "Body rubs". Has an ad today.
[QUOTE=HoseNose;1937653]Search "Body rubs". Has an ad today.[/QUOTE]Nothing there. Maybe took it down. Boo Hoo. Next time you see do you mind posting the link?? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Brad243;1937737]Nothing there. Maybe took it down. Boo Hoo. Next time you see do you mind posting the link?? Thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/topless-massage-dds-petite-and-curvey-24/12465415[/URL]
It's still there. However, based upon your description, this may not be the Samantha that you are looking for.
[QUOTE=HoseNose;1938536][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/topless-massage-dds-petite-and-curvey-24/12465415[/URL]
It's still there. However, based upon your description, this may not be the Samantha that you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Not sure the Samantha Brad is looking for, This is not the Samantha that used to work with Sharon. .
Wow. Fucking WOW. Hot girl, although I expected that from the YGND group, I have always had great luck with them. Went to her place and parked, good nieghborhood, felt very safe. Was greeted at the door by a thin, fit college girl type, with blond hair and a beautiful face. Holly introduced herself and told me to get comfortable, and showed me where the bathroom was. She had on sheer black panties and a very see-thru bra that clearly showed her small nips and firm tits that I'm guessing are a natural C cup. Sky High heels too, which were very attractive and upscale looking. Not an ounce of extra on this girl, but she still had a very feminine, in-shape look that was seriously hot.
She started the massage with her bra straps slipping down off her breasts, running those nips up and down my back and ass, and I could feel her hot breath on the back of my neck. She was quiet, but clearly into it. I like them to not fill the time with a lot of chatter, actually, (unless they are going to tell me how big me cock is), so she was perfect. She really worked my back, neck, shoulders and legs, and spent plenty of time teasing my inner thighs and balls, before she flipped me at about the 30 minute mark. She took more time to massage my upper body and chest, which gave me an even better view of those penthouse worthy tits, and she let me grope her ass a bit as well, although I was careful to not to be aggressive.
The ending was amazing, and she was very focused on making my cock rock hard before she finally let me explode onto her chest for an extra tip. She brought me a cloth to clean up with, and she was very sweet when she hugged goodbye, making sure I knew I was welcome to come back. Got the feeling extras could be on the table for some extra in the future, but I never press my luck until they know I'm a regular. She was hot as hell, worth the 1.25 and then some.
Treat her right, gentleman, she is amazing.
[QUOTE=FreightShaker1;1938559]Not sure the Samantha Brad is looking for, This is not the Samantha that used to work with Sharon. .[/QUOTE]I am thinking of taking a chance on this one, but haven't seen many reviews either here or on TER. Any advice? How does she compare to the YNGD girls? Any extras?
I appreciate the help, thanks guys.
Drove by and seen they closed. Wasn't the greatest, but was convenient. Anyone know what happened? Did they close or move?
What is YGND?
[QUOTE=OldDawg;1938573]Wow. Fucking WOW. Hot girl, although I expected that from the YGND group, I.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChicagoMonger;1939262]What is YGND?[/QUOTE]YGND= Your girl next door.
They are a local St. Louis area erotic massage agency. If you google them I'm sure you will find their website and they should be pretty well reviewed on this site.
[QUOTE=ChicagoMonger;1939262]What is YGND?[/QUOTE]It is Your Girl Next Door, a bit pricey, well regarded and known to have very hot, safe girls with no hassles. They are always booked up, but once you get in as a client you'll be glad you did. The are well reviewed everywhere. They don't provide full service though, so if you want an escort, take a pass on these girls.
[QUOTE=Brad243;1937070]Hey Bill. I search and nothing came up. Really like this girl. Was seeing pretty regularly. Phone was discounted too. Is she really back on the seen.[/QUOTE]She used to work with Sharon then went out on her own then got a little too popular. Unfortunately she found a Sugar Daddy who has taken her off the market. Likely will resurface when the money runs out.
Anyone seen Molly (Chloe) since she left YGND?
I have seen reviews on another board about her being intoxicated during session and just wonder if anyone had problems. She looks great in photos and wondering if the fun level increased after she left YGND. PM or post if you have seen her lately. Thanks.
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/molly-22/12602983[/URL]
Tried it out. Real cute Chinese girl. She worked before on the heather crew out of a house on hwy k.. Bottom line ok massage but zero on extras. I pulled out all stops. No go.. What a shame killer little body. Damage .50.
[QUOTE=Stlconnoisseur;1939791]Anyone seen Molly (Chloe) since she left YGND?
I have seen reviews on another board about her being intoxicated during session and just wonder if anyone had problems. She looks great in photos and wondering if the fun level increased after she left YGND. PM or post if you have seen her lately. Thanks.
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/molly-22/12602983[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw her while she was with YNGD a few months ago, but I can see why she is no longer with them after my last visit. She was totally wasted when I arrived, and tripped backwards as she opened the door. She was drinking rum and coke and was slurring her words before we even started. I like a loose drunk chick as much as the next guy, but she was beyond even being able to do the massage, and I would have felt like anything we did made me an asshole because she was so compromised.
She never did ask for the money, I think she just forgot, so I ended up leaving before anything happened. She needs to be careful. Not everyone is a gentleman.
[QUOTE=OldDawg;1935943]Go with Kendra or Angel with the Girls Next Door crew for near downtown. They are a forum fave here, and the girls are pretty, sane, and safe. Kendra has a little more meat on her bones, I would go with Angel, who is hot as hell and very well reviewed here and elsewhere. Call Lake from the BP ad, and be nice to her, she is a sweetheart but a busy lady, so know your schedule when you call and you'll have a better chance at getting an appt.[/QUOTE]THanks for the info and looks like I will try and give them a call. Haven't seen much on here, BP, or other boards. Will let you know how it goes.
[QUOTE=Rocket2323;1940971]THanks for the info and looks like I will try and give them a call. Haven't seen much on here, BP, or other boards. Will let you know how it goes.[/QUOTE]It should also be pointed out to the visitors that the photos of the girls in the YGND ad and on the website are fakes. Those professional models are 10's and the actual girls are better than average, but no where near as cute as the ones in the ad. Copyright infringement for commercail purposes is another arguement. Bottom line: What you see is not what you're going to get.
[QUOTE=BillBradsky;1941406]It should also be pointed out to the visitors that the photos of the girls in the YGND ad and on the website are fakes. Those professional models are 10's and the actual girls are better than average, but no where near as cute as the ones in the ad. Copyright infringement for commercail purposes is another arguement. Bottom line: What you see is not what you're going to get.[/QUOTE]That's a matter of opinion. I think Angel and Holly at the very least look better than thier pics, and I think that has been said a few times on this board. The pics may not be the actual girl, but they do a great job of giving you an accurate idea of what she looks like.
Bottom line? Check reviews and just see for yourself. IMHO, they are reliably hot, hassle free, and its a great service I wish was in other cites.