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So I was browsing yesterday for a nice dream today. Been in touch with one or two and this particular girls has my attention but something about her just makes the alarms go off and the big head almost makes me not want to TOFTT on her but I am struggling with it.

[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-and-sweet-leahlets-bring-the-new-year-in-together/11823656[/URL]

Text her, and she sent me a full nude, nothing comes up on tineye, her number changed from a new jersey number to florida between yesterday and today. She is local to my neighborhood, literally within 10 minutes. Old number serach yielded nothing and new number search yields nothing I can find. Anyone else got any intel on this one? If she is still open for it on Saturday I may TOFTT and find out especially since she said $ for an hour but that is again what makes me reluctant.

This is the first time I find myself wanting to test her out but having some reservations. I don't get to do this too often so like to enjoy it when I can.

Thanks for any help.

Jinx.

[QUOTE=New2Jax;2315326]THIS IS A SCAMMER. Probably do not need to point it out but just in case.

[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/im-back-as-so-many-hsve-requested-i-couldnt-resist-yall-have-been-so-kind-and-generous-to-me/11533473[/URL][/QUOTE]Never had any intentions of even trying that one. Screams fake / scam all over.

I will stay clear of these beasts. You should always make them come to you in the future.

[QUOTE=Leftexit;2315973]Well this is certainly not how I wanted to ring in the new year. Decided to TOFTT with madison tonight, and boy what a HUGE mistake. Called and got directions to her incall in palm coast (waste of 30 min drive each way. Ugh). Looked like a duplex, I was a little wary because she said on the phone it was just her and her gf who lives there and from my experience anytime its a residence theres ALWAYS a guy, because lets face it 99% of the time these girls don't even have bank accounts much less have the ability to sign a lease, set up utility accounts and what not.

Anyways, she met me outside and as soon as she opened the door her gf was there talking to her (annoying how these girls don't seem to understand that when a guy sees them they don't want to interact with anyone else) and she immediately ushered me into the. Garage. Theres a couch there with a dirty white sheet and behind it a bunch of useless junk. Not a great ambiance to start off with, not to mention it smells like. What a garage full of junk would smell like. She explains that she doesn't let people into her room. I nod. And she finally admits that her kids are in her room. Okay at this point big head is thinking get out now but the little head was saying you've already driven 30 min might as well stay. Stupidly didn't listen to the big head and she proceeds to ask for the donation which I place on a little table and she immediately grabs it and stashes away. (all the bad ones seem to do this. Like they know you're probably going to be disappointed and they make sure they stash the money in advance) as SOON as she has the money the attitude comes out, she's like why are you acting like you're grossed out, you can leave you know. Inside I'm thinking "oh great. She has my money this is how its going to be" so now I have to be nice to her to even get anything as she has the money and all the leverage at this point. I hate being in this situation. The sheet BTW has some pretty nasty stains, I hate to wonder what caused them and tried not to think of it. So at this point I'm in my birthday suit and she is wearing boy shorts and nothing else. She has a big old beer gut, and a busted grill. Her teeth are scary. Looks like a serious case of meth mouth or something so needless to say I was immediately turned off. Skin was what you'd expect. Random marks and scars and looked like track marks on her arm. She said "I don't do anything without a condom" and as she goes to put the condom on she notices that my little buddy isn't exactly at attention. She immediately starts bitching saying things like "I don't think this is going to work" "you're dick is so small" etc etc and meanwhile I'm sucking it up because I'm trying to salvage getting something from my hard earned money. When I really want to say "how am I supposed to get hard when you're acting like a complete ***** and it looks like you've never brushed your teeth or seen a dentist in your life" she keeps saying "I can't do this" "how am I suppose to do anything if you can't get hard" well obviously this is the furthest thing that's going to get me in the mood and clearly she was just looking to kick me out now that she had my money so I say ok I agree this probably isn't going to work. I get dressed and she looks at me and says "are you going to leave or do you need to be escorted out?" she then says "I can go get my brother if you need me to" keep in mind I've been completely respectful this entire time, she's stolen my hard earned money and now she's threatening me. So just because I've had enough of her I say "go ahead go get him" she calls out to probably one of the 10 other people in the house and out comes a tall black male (guess its that kind of "brother") he walks over like he doesn't want to be bothered. I'm not particularly scared to be honest because I know he doesn't have any reason to start trouble with me but nonetheless I tell him I'm leaving. The sooner the nightmare ends the better. I'm really getting sick of getting ripped off. And though I've always told myself to just cut my losses I really felt like maybe I should use physical force to get my money back. This girl was a complete ***** and I was pissed. Well, if theres ANY positive to be taken away from this its that hopefully ill save another monger from the awful experience I had. As I really don't believe this is a YMMV situation I can only say: AVOID THIS GIRL AT ALL COSTS!

Madison [URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-years-eve-specials-seductive-sexy-and-sinful-call-now/11647595[/URL].

Damage: $.

2nd report.

Decided to see sophie about a week ago. Her pics looked genuine so I decided to TOFTT. She quoted $. Over the phone for 30 min so I decided to take the plunge.

Said her incall was between ISB and beville on US1. And told me to call as I was getting close. Got close and she still wouldn't tell me the name of the motel. She just said keep driving and ill come outside. Basically it was a giant clusterfuck of her refusing to tell me the name while I was driving back and forth, making you turns, her having no sense of direction and saying things like "I'm not from this area I don't know" yet she would refuse to tell me the name of the place. Finally I got sick of it and said I'm leaving after driving back and forth for like the 3rd time and she finally said the name of the place. I get there and she apologizes and said she's nervous and she wants to see the person before they arrive so she can make sure theyre legit. How she plans on doing this without giving out her location I have no idea. Anyways I enter her room which is one of the notels off the ridge and she is definitely the girl in the pic. However whoever took that pic was a champ because she really didn't look as attractive in person. She lists her age as 25 and is clearly in her 30's. Her body is OK but certainly nothing special. I handed over the donation and we got down to business. She started off with a reasonable BBBJ and on went the cover and went through a couple of positions. I wasn't really feeling like I was "getting close" so to speak so I stopped and told her so. At this point she springs off the bed, grabs her phone and runs into the bathroom. I'm just sitting there by myself. Hoping that she just had to use the bathroom. Not thinking the dream was over I was going to ask if I could finish with a BBBJ. Well she was in there awhile and then I hear her talking on the phone "yeah I'm done hes about to leave". She comes back out and I'm like "I didn't know we were done" and she's says "oh I thought you were". Then she says "I have another date so you have to leave" (they always say this and its pretty much always a lie) anyways I'm pretty annoyed now and as I start to get dressed someone pounds on the door hard police style. She says that's her gf and I ask her "well could you please tell her to wait a minute" and she mumbles something about oh don't worry she knows yet she refuses to say anything. I repeat 2 or 3 times could you tell her to wait a minute so I can get dressed but she never says anything. Then whoever is outside bangs on the door again. I just don't know how these girls can't see how this is beyond rude and must not value the concept of repeat business. I'm pretty pissed off at this point so I finish getting dressed and walk out the door without saying goodbye or acknowledging her. As I open the door I tell her gf she can go ahead inside. I drive off and 5 minutes later she calls me and says that she's sorry about what happened and that if I want to I can come back tomorrow for no charge. I say sure thing. I don't call her back the next day. Lets face it, it never wouldve happened and as I've tried to convey she is nothing special and there is much better to be had out there. Still not a complete rip off and YMMV. Not for me though as I won't be going back.

Sophie / sophia [URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-sophie-come-see-me-and-let-me-satisfy-you-non-rushed-and-discreet/11728033[/URL].

Damage: $.

Bonus report from awhile back.

Decided to see lexi based on a couple positive reviews (yes there are bad reviews now but this was after I had seen her) called her and when she told me she was out in deland I said I didn't know if I wanted to drive that far and I'd think about it. She called me back saying she would offer me a really great deal since she had to pay her electric bill (I. E. She needs to buy drugs) she said she would do half off her normal donation. Well I figured that was a good enough reason to drive out there so I drove out to her incall in deland, sitting in a row of houses on a street right off of ISB. When I walked in I had this strange sense of deja vu. If you search one of my earlier reports youll see I wrote about a girl whos skin was covered in sores. I don't know why I didn't make this association when I saw her pics (maybe my brain tried to erase this terrible memory) but I was quite sure it was her once I saw her in person. Also the fact that the previous dream was also in deland made me almost sure. I was uncomfortable right away and she could tell but she kept assuring me that everything would be fine and that one else lived there, etc. I wanted to leave right away but the little head was putting doubts in my mind saying maybe it isn't her? Well she led me into a room and I handed her the donation (normally would be $. But in this case. 5) she was wearing long sleeved clothing and as she started to undress. I realized right away. Yep. Same person. Her skin was still covered in sores but at least this time they weren't red and I guess more like scars? Still scary but not quite as bad as last time. Still a disgusting sight and just tried not to think of it. At this point I was just hoping to get some head and get a quick nut and get out. She started out with a BBBJ that actually wasn't terrible. She was going too fast though as many girls tend to do to try to get the dream over with. This to me is a turn off but in this instance I think I was ok with it because I wanted out as badly as she did. When she got tired gave me a cover and removed her bottoms. Once I got a glimpse of her nether regions I was completely turned off and had no intentions of engaging in FS. I don't even know how to describe it other than it was absolutely disgusting. I played with the cover for a bit trying to think of my next move when she started asking "are you going to be able to finish? I need to get going and your time should have been up already since you only gave me half" well isn't that lovely were all of maybe 5 minutes in and my times up? And of course what she was selling me was 1/2 off for the same amount of time but now of course its a different story. So I proceed to get dressed and leave and as I'm sitting in my car no less than 30 seconds passes when some dude on a bicycle rides up. He stares at me and walks in the door. So much for living alone. All I could think about was god bless this dude if hes actually getting intimate with this girl. I don't think I could do FS with this girl if you paid me. My recommendation is the same as it was previously: do NOT see this girl, there are FAR better options out there.[/QUOTE]

TOFTT! If not I will. LOL. She looks good, get her for an outcall if you feel things maybe suspect.

[QUOTE=JinxWolf69;2316183]So I was browsing yesterday for a nice dream today. Been in touch with one or two and this particular girls has my attention but something about her just makes the alarms go off and the big head almost makes me not want to TOFTT on her but I am struggling with it.

[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-and-sweet-leahlets-bring-the-new-year-in-together/11823656[/URL]

Text her, and she sent me a full nude, nothing comes up on tineye, her number changed from a new jersey number to florida between yesterday and today. She is local to my neighborhood, literally within 10 minutes. Old number serach yielded nothing and new number search yields nothing I can find. Anyone else got any intel on this one? If she is still open for it on Saturday I may TOFTT and find out especially since she said $ for an hour but that is again what makes me reluctant.

This is the first time I find myself wanting to test her out but having some reservations. I don't get to do this too often so like to enjoy it when I can.

Thanks for any help.

Jinx.[/QUOTE]

I don't pop into the Daytona forums often so I apologize for not getting this info out sooner. I was looking around a saw a review on a Daytona BP girl named "Madison" and read the nightmare review of another monger so here's the dirt on her.

Madison's More known name is Stephanie and she used to be a hard used streetwalker in Brevard county, Cocoa to be exact. Head over to The Brevard County streetwalker page and you'll find a lot of negative reviews. She eventually got kicked out of Brevard and now I'm guessing has moved into the Daytona area. She's nothing but bad news. Drugs, pimps, rip offs, she'll do anything she can to get your money. She's nothing but a streetwalker who's charging BP prices. PM me for her real name cause this girl needs to be outed big time.

http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-years-eve-specials-seductive-sexy-and-sinful-call-now/11647595


As for the fairly new monger below me that had the nightmare with her (this applies to all mongers too), dude you need to stop paying first. I've never paid first for any dream regardless of how assertive the girl got. Once you give these girls the money, the ball, specifically your balls, is now in her court and she can do whatever she wants. Sometimes she'll put them in her mouth but more often than not she's going to throw them to the curbside. Man up and use your big head.

Stop paying first!

[QUOTE=AshleysGirls;2315988][URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/cute-sexy-fun-lily-is-back-and-ready-to-have-fun/11440386[/URL]

She was robbed and roughed up a bit but the po saved her and didn't charge her. Should call her Lucky.

[URL]http://m.news-journalonline.com/article/20141230/NEWS/141239951/1040?Title=Police-Men-attack-woman-who-placed-Backpage-ad-at-Dayton[/URL]

A-motel.[/QUOTE]Damn girl can't even get her hustle on. Sorry Lily girl. I guess its a job hazard but that sucks.

[QUOTE=GreenN386;2316329]TOFTT! If not I will. LOL. She looks good, get her for an outcall if you feel things maybe suspect.[/QUOTE]I may try. The downside now is the bad review and info on Madison is and her incall is the exact same incall this girl uses two and I think her '2 girl" special is with Madison although this lady looks significantly better. Think I may try and hit her up in the morning and test the waters. Hate to lose $ on a bad call but something about her makes me want to risk it. LOL.

[QUOTE=PythagorasHP;2316456]I don't pop into the Daytona forums often so I apologize for not getting this info out sooner. I was looking around a saw a review on a Daytona BP girl named "Madison" and read the nightmare review of another monger so here's the dirt on her.

Madison's More known name is Stephanie and she used to be a hard used streetwalker in Brevard county, Cocoa to be exact. Head over to The Brevard County streetwalker page and you'll find a lot of negative reviews. She eventually got kicked out of Brevard and now I'm guessing has moved into the Daytona area. She's nothing but bad news. Drugs, pimps, rip offs, she'll do anything she can to get your money. She's nothing but a streetwalker who's charging BP prices. PM me for her real name cause this girl needs to be outed big time.

http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-years-eve-specials-seductive-sexy-and-sinful-call-now/11647595


As for the fairly new monger below me that had the nightmare with her (this applies to all mongers too), dude you need to stop paying first. I've never paid first for any dream regardless of how assertive the girl got. Once you give these girls the money, the ball, specifically your balls, is now in her court and she can do whatever she wants. Sometimes she'll put them in her mouth but more often than not she's going to throw them to the curbside. Man up and use your big head.

Stop paying first![/QUOTE]Good point Pyth! If we all started to refuse to pay first than we would have less rip offs and maybe, just maybe, better service!

[QUOTE=DManTheTruth;2316630]Damn girl can't even get her hustle on. Sorry Lily girl. I guess its a job hazard but that sucks.[/QUOTE]Heard she was cash and dashin. Would love to meet her if she's for real.

LOL. She's a piece of shit. Karma's a *****. I can't stand thieves like Lily. It's good to see she got a dose of her own medicine.

[QUOTE=DManTheTruth;2316630]Damn girl can't even get her hustle on. Sorry Lily girl. I guess its a job hazard but that sucks.[/QUOTE]

All I can say is wow. I have always avoided meeting anyone who can't be vouched for or has at least a few reviews here or on oTERher sites and this certainly confirms it. To me the first big decision is what kind of provider you are going for and what I mean by that is what "level" there is everything from standing on the corner low end providers and high end. I try and hit the mid range and don't mind paying a little extra to somewhat guarantee that 1, I am hopefully not going to get in trouble, two that the girl won't be a mess and I won't be taken advantage of or robbed and 3 that my money will be well spent with regards to quality of service. I have taken a few chances last year the last one being with Lexi in DeLand whom I initially gave a good review about. Recently I recommend a girl here in deland to some senior members but that was after meeting her first to evaluate her. I really don't mind paying in the 150 range as I have had some great dreams doing that but the girls that charge 100 or less are definitely ones that are a crap shoots and to me not worth it overall especially if you like DATY or a decent GFE. One of my ATF and my safe go to girl is midwest monique in Daytona. That is a great example of a provider who gives great service, isn't a basket case and has her shit together. Obviously the west volusia area lacks providers of this quality and its why I sometime venture out to the east orlando / altamonte area sometimes as I cannot host. Please be safe.

[QUOTE=Leftexit;2315973]Well this is certainly not how I wanted to ring in the new year. Decided to TOFTT with madison tonight, and boy what a HUGE mistake. Called and got directions to her incall in palm coast (waste of 30 min drive each way. Ugh). Looked like a duplex, I was a little wary because she said on the phone it was just her and her gf who lives there and from my experience anytime its a residence theres ALWAYS a guy, because lets face it 99% of the time these girls don't even have bank accounts much less have the ability to sign a lease, set up utility accounts and what not.

Anyways, she met me outside and as soon as she opened the door her gf was there talking to her (annoying how these girls don't seem to understand that when a guy sees them they don't want to interact with anyone else) and she immediately ushered me into the. Garage. Theres a couch there with a dirty white sheet and behind it a bunch of useless junk. Not a great ambiance to start off with, not to mention it smells like. What a garage full of junk would smell like. She explains that she doesn't let people into her room. I nod. And she finally admits that her kids are in her room. Okay at this point big head is thinking get out now but the little head was saying you've already driven 30 min might as well stay. Stupidly didn't listen to the big head and she proceeds to ask for the donation which I place on a little table and she immediately grabs it and stashes away. (all the bad ones seem to do this. Like they know you're probably going to be disappointed and they make sure they stash the money in advance) as SOON as she has the money the attitude comes out, she's like why are you acting like you're grossed out, you can leave you know. Inside I'm thinking "oh great. She has my money this is how its going to be" so now I have to be nice to her to even get anything as she has the money and all the leverage at this point. I hate being in this situation. The sheet BTW has some pretty nasty stains, I hate to wonder what caused them and tried not to think of it. So at this point I'm in my birthday suit and she is wearing boy shorts and nothing else. She has a big old beer gut, and a busted grill. Her teeth are scary. Looks like a serious case of meth mouth or something so needless to say I was immediately turned off. Skin was what you'd expect. Random marks and scars and looked like track marks on her arm. She said "I don't do anything without a condom" and as she goes to put the condom on she notices that my little buddy isn't exactly at attention. She immediately starts bitching saying things like "I don't think this is going to work" "you're dick is so small" etc etc and meanwhile I'm sucking it up because I'm trying to salvage getting something from my hard earned money. When I really want to say "how am I supposed to get hard when you're acting like a complete ***** and it looks like you've never brushed your teeth or seen a dentist in your life" she keeps saying "I can't do this" "how am I suppose to do anything if you can't get hard" well obviously this is the furthest thing that's going to get me in the mood and clearly she was just looking to kick me out now that she had my money so I say ok I agree this probably isn't going to work. I get dressed and she looks at me and says "are you going to leave or do you need to be escorted out?" she then says "I can go get my brother if you need me to" keep in mind I've been completely respectful this entire time, she's stolen my hard earned money and now she's threatening me. So just because I've had enough of her I say "go ahead go get him" she calls out to probably one of the 10 other people in the house and out comes a tall black male (guess its that kind of "brother") he walks over like he doesn't want to be bothered. I'm not particularly scared to be honest because I know he doesn't have any reason to start trouble with me but nonetheless I tell him I'm leaving. The sooner the nightmare ends the better. I'm really getting sick of getting ripped off. And though I've always told myself to just cut my losses I really felt like maybe I should use physical force to get my money back. This girl was a complete ***** and I was pissed. Well, if theres ANY positive to be taken away from this its that hopefully ill save another monger from the awful experience I had. As I really don't believe this is a YMMV situation I can only say: AVOID THIS GIRL AT ALL COSTS!

Madison [URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-years-eve-specials-seductive-sexy-and-sinful-call-now/11647595[/URL].

Damage: $.

2nd report.

Decided to see sophie about a week ago. Her pics looked genuine so I decided to TOFTT. She quoted $. Over the phone for 30 min so I decided to take the plunge.

Said her incall was between ISB and beville on US1. And told me to call as I was getting close. Got close and she still wouldn't tell me the name of the motel. She just said keep driving and ill come outside. Basically it was a giant clusterfuck of her refusing to tell me the name while I was driving back and forth, making you turns, her having no sense of direction and saying things like "I'm not from this area I don't know" yet she would refuse to tell me the name of the place. Finally I got sick of it and said I'm leaving after driving back and forth for like the 3rd time and she finally said the name of the place. I get there and she apologizes and said she's nervous and she wants to see the person before they arrive so she can make sure theyre legit. How she plans on doing this without giving out her location I have no idea. Anyways I enter her room which is one of the notels off the ridge and she is definitely the girl in the pic. However whoever took that pic was a champ because she really didn't look as attractive in person. She lists her age as 25 and is clearly in her 30's. Her body is OK but certainly nothing special. I handed over the donation and we got down to business. She started off with a reasonable BBBJ and on went the cover and went through a couple of positions. I wasn't really feeling like I was "getting close" so to speak so I stopped and told her so. At this point she springs off the bed, grabs her phone and runs into the bathroom. I'm just sitting there by myself. Hoping that she just had to use the bathroom. Not thinking the dream was over I was going to ask if I could finish with a BBBJ. Well she was in there awhile and then I hear her talking on the phone "yeah I'm done hes about to leave". She comes back out and I'm like "I didn't know we were done" and she's says "oh I thought you were". Then she says "I have another date so you have to leave" (they always say this and its pretty much always a lie) anyways I'm pretty annoyed now and as I start to get dressed someone pounds on the door hard police style. She says that's her gf and I ask her "well could you please tell her to wait a minute" and she mumbles something about oh don't worry she knows yet she refuses to say anything. I repeat 2 or 3 times could you tell her to wait a minute so I can get dressed but she never says anything. Then whoever is outside bangs on the door again. I just don't know how these girls can't see how this is beyond rude and must not value the concept of repeat business. I'm pretty pissed off at this point so I finish getting dressed and walk out the door without saying goodbye or acknowledging her. As I open the door I tell her gf she can go ahead inside. I drive off and 5 minutes later she calls me and says that she's sorry about what happened and that if I want to I can come back tomorrow for no charge. I say sure thing. I don't call her back the next day. Lets face it, it never wouldve happened and as I've tried to convey she is nothing special and there is much better to be had out there. Still not a complete rip off and YMMV. Not for me though as I won't be going back.

Sophie / sophia [URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-sophie-come-see-me-and-let-me-satisfy-you-non-rushed-and-discreet/11728033[/URL].

Damage: $.

Bonus report from awhile back.

Decided to see lexi based on a couple positive reviews (yes there are bad reviews now but this was after I had seen her) called her and when she told me she was out in deland I said I didn't know if I wanted to drive that far and I'd think about it. She called me back saying she would offer me a really great deal since she had to pay her electric bill (I. E. She needs to buy drugs) she said she would do half off her normal donation. Well I figured that was a good enough reason to drive out there so I drove out to her incall in deland, sitting in a row of houses on a street right off of ISB. When I walked in I had this strange sense of deja vu. If you search one of my earlier reports youll see I wrote about a girl whos skin was covered in sores. I don't know why I didn't make this association when I saw her pics (maybe my brain tried to erase this terrible memory) but I was quite sure it was her once I saw her in person. Also the fact that the previous dream was also in deland made me almost sure. I was uncomfortable right away and she could tell but she kept assuring me that everything would be fine and that one else lived there, etc. I wanted to leave right away but the little head was putting doubts in my mind saying maybe it isn't her? Well she led me into a room and I handed her the donation (normally would be $. But in this case. 5) she was wearing long sleeved clothing and as she started to undress. I realized right away. Yep. Same person. Her skin was still covered in sores but at least this time they weren't red and I guess more like scars? Still scary but not quite as bad as last time. Still a disgusting sight and just tried not to think of it. At this point I was just hoping to get some head and get a quick nut and get out. She started out with a BBBJ that actually wasn't terrible. She was going too fast though as many girls tend to do to try to get the dream over with. This to me is a turn off but in this instance I think I was ok with it because I wanted out as badly as she did. When she got tired gave me a cover and removed her bottoms. Once I got a glimpse of her nether regions I was completely turned off and had no intentions of engaging in FS. I don't even know how to describe it other than it was absolutely disgusting. I played with the cover for a bit trying to think of my next move when she started asking "are you going to be able to finish? I need to get going and your time should have been up already since you only gave me half" well isn't that lovely were all of maybe 5 minutes in and my times up? And of course what she was selling me was 1/2 off for the same amount of time but now of course its a different story. So I proceed to get dressed and leave and as I'm sitting in my car no less than 30 seconds passes when some dude on a bicycle rides up. He stares at me and walks in the door. So much for living alone. All I could think about was god bless this dude if hes actually getting intimate with this girl. I don't think I could do FS with this girl if you paid me. My recommendation is the same as it was previously: do NOT see this girl, there are FAR better options out there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JinxWolf69;2316641]I may try. The downside now is the bad review and info on Madison is and her incall is the exact same incall this girl uses two and I think her '2 girl" special is with Madison although this lady looks significantly better. Think I may try and hit her up in the morning and test the waters. Hate to lose $ on a bad call but something about her makes me want to risk it. LOL.[/QUOTE]After seeing her ad, she is in fact madison's friend who was at the front door in my report. I saw her for all of 5 seconds, but she didn't jump out as anything special. IIRC she has some scarring on her face which might not show in the pics. If she says her incall is in the are section of PC I would stay away due to the reasons I reported on, you will be spending your time in a nasty garage with management lurking in the house. GreenN386's advice is good. I would do an outcall to be safe.

As far as "lilly" if you look her up from the article she has so many arrests it could fill a novel. She probably has her good days where she is fine, but I remember when she was working with KC (who's now clean and out of the business) and KC would tell me all these stories of her, always getting high, acting crazy, tons of drama, etc etc.

She is attractive enough to be tempted but after seeing her rap sheet I will not be contacting her. There are of course previous bad reports on her but its possible she's turned a new leaf.

As far as paying first. Of course its the smart thing to do, but also easier said than done. Pythagoras referred to me as fairly new, but alas I've been in the game for longer than I'd like to admit. When I was a newbie I tried to request that I pay at the end and it didn't fly. Perhaps I didn't go about it the right way. I also didn't know about these online forums or really have a clue what I was doing. After learning the ropes, figuring out what ads are most likely using fake pics, read up on reviews and using google to dig up info I had much better success sifting away the trash. I had a pretty good streak for awhile of just seeing regulars and not getting ripped but as the regulars have left the business I've had to start from the beginning again. This year has been the first in awhile that I've TOFTT and just seen a girl not knowing what I was getting into and I've gotten burned a few times. Perhaps I had gotten too comfortable paying first in previous instances when I was having a streak of good fortune. These last few times getting stung has hurt and ill definitely be on my guard more. The thing is you WILL inevitably miss out on certain providers if you insist on paying at the end and they aren't agreeable to it. Then I'm always wondering if I'm letting the next greatest thing get away. I guess that is something you'll just have to live with if youd rather be safe than sorry.

That is enough for me to stay away. If it smells fishy it probably is.

Thanks.

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[QUOTE=GreenN386;2317254]LOL. She's a piece of shit. Karma's a *****. I can't stand thieves like Lily. It's good to see she got a dose of her own medicine.[/QUOTE]I had no idea about this broads nefarious past. If she's getting down like that then your right, karma's a *****.

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