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THeir fear
Its sad. What will slowly happen is other sites will now get pressure and the girls and their pimps will now either move to obscure sites or put the girls back on the streets...
[QUOTE=Quipster]Looks like craigslist bowed to the 17 attorneys general and has shut down their "adult services" and "adult gigs" sections.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Azfrnick]This profession needs to be legalized and controller like they do in Europe, especially in Germany.
All licensed, STD tested, no illegal immigrants, they pay taxes and when something happens, they call the cops, who are absolutely not judgemental and take their claims seriously.[/QUOTE]A Ten Hut! Thats for sure! Especially w. The failing economy! Tax pussy and the bills will be paid! Oh, and I will be living in the shelter, so as to support my habit!
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Anotheronedown]Its sad. What will slowly happen is other sites will now get pressure and the girls and their pimps will now either move to obscure sites or put the girls back on the streets...[/QUOTE]Ironic eh,
Shut it down, so the girls can go back on the street! WTF!! kind of idea are they conceiving? Either way, I am not going to complain if the street scene comes back. How I wish for Van Buren of 2003!
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alternative
General question: Which alternatives to cl, other than bp, do people find most helpful?
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[QUOTE=Azfrnick]This profession needs to be legalized and controller like they do in Europe, especially in Germany.
All licensed, STD tested, no illegal immigrants, they pay taxes and when something happens, they call the cops, who are absolutely not judgemental and take their claims seriously.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree but good luck with the Tea Baggers vying for power. And winning so far.
Anyone notice that that loon O'Donnell.the witchcraft dabbler- has said that masturbation is a sin, and that "you CAN legislate morality"? The deep swing to the right that appears to be forthcoming, led by intolerant females, doesn't bode well for this.
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[QUOTE=Roxor]Absolutely agree but good luck with the Tea Baggers vying for power. And winning so far.
Anyone notice that that loon O'Donnell.the witchcraft dabbler- has said that masturbation is a sin, and that "you CAN legislate morality"? The deep swing to the right that appears to be forthcoming, led by intolerant females, doesn't bode well for this.[/QUOTE]
I think this country is more liberal than they think. They are out of touch. Look at DADT. Most people are for the repeal. Defeated anyway. A minority can prevent a majority from governing. Lame.
We could talk politics on and on. :)
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Penny for thoughts
Hello,
I have had some conversations with members in phoenix area and CA about there experiences with non pros. Knowing the state of the economy and the rates posted on BP. I sometimes feel I am looking at this the wrong way. Either I am in completely wrong job which does not pay me enough to venture into this.
But that is not the reason for the post. Will like to share some thoughts about usefulness or lack of it. Of CL. In my experience.
Still there are some gems to be found on CL. But the posts for w4m in CL get flagged within minutes.
Second. I have posted on CL a few times. And found that either there are still some pros who watch the board and try and push a high price deal. Or you get a lot of spam. But once you cut the clutter you might find some very amazing gems still.
First the positive experiences. Over last year I think I have posted about 4 to 5 times. And have met 2 amazing ladies. One is a BBW. Not really my type. But her willingness has kept me going. She can suck the chrome off of a pipe and will ask for more. Second is a beautiful spinner in her 40's. Having some difficulties with some bills. It has been worth the time and effort I had to put into it. (it is more like dating with benefits. So I say it is lot of work. Also both of them are not really looking for anyone else. If things change I will post there info on board with their permission)
Now some feedback which I will like to get from members. Before I go into this rant. I will like to clarify I am not raciest. Actually I am an immigrant also. One of the ladies who responded to this post was of african decent. I was weary about it but I wanted to give it a shot. So I continued conversation. Once we felt some connection. We decided to meet at a public place. A day before the meeting I receive a text and she states she has seen something which has a price tag of $500 which she will like to receive as gift for meeting her. I was taken back. I stated to her I think 1000 times before purchasing something worth $200. I am not going to just pick it up for seeing her. She said sorry but still wanted to meet. So I went ahead with the meeting at a upscale bar. Treated her with respect and did not even touch her. She said she wanted to meet in person next time to have good time. Next weekend I get text message from her she really wants to see me and I should pick her up. Somehow my gut feeling was against it so I made some excuse and requested raincheck. Next day I receive a message (in her words)"I need some assistance, not much just $800". I was taken back AGAIN. This time I decided to cut the conversation. Two days later I get a text that. I misled her. And I was not true to my word and did not help her. And she was going to publish my info on CL and tell every girl on CL about it.
Now knowing the recent posts and experiences by members about BSW's and this experience. Is it just me or most of the African women give bad vibes. With there sense of entitlement. And again I am not trying to be raciest just asking a generic opinion.
Sorry about the rant and long dream.
Be safe.
BT
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Really?
First, I take it she only has your number and not anything else of value like a last or even real first name? Hopefully you have a monger phone too so it doesn't matter if she posts the number. Anyhow, based on your post I take it she has info you don't want posted so treat it like a business client, talking to her patiently and calmly but be firm and review what really happened with her and what your response to her doing this will be. I'd suggest stating the obvious that you'll make it a priority to ruin her, using posts telling who she is and what she is doing and if you have further info (or can obtain it) using that to your advantage too. Most of these girls are stupid and if you've spent much time conversing with them they give you personal information or enough intel where you can find out more. Finally, there is probably a very good case for you saying something about reporting her to the authorities or that she will be getting arrested soon enough with your help. Hard to say exactly how you can play this with all the details and angles available but if you put in some forethought and planned you probably have some good ammunition. Maybe you can even catch her with another add? I had a provider once from BP scam me. I entered and made one big mistake by giving her money and then stripping down while she wasn't clearly ready to go. She then made an excuse to leave the room for a min. And other girls where in the same apartment. Of course she comes back and starts saying that fee was for some weak stuff (something like only touching or watching, just can't remember exactly). The upsale was bs of course so I put on my clothes went out and requested my money back and put up a front arguing with another girl who had my money. I was extremely close to going nuts and wrecking those 2 and maybe the 3rd girl but the main one alluded to a weapon. I didn't mind that so much since they didn't seem ready to prove it and show their "protection", but I figured something could go wrong while beating 3 women up like one getting away, them scratching me up, etc. Long story short I act like a concerned neighbor and call the Apartment management as a concerned next door neighbor (brother visiting sister) and noticing all the guys coming and going and the random scantily clad scetchy women. Then I make an anonymous call to the police saying what these chicks are up to, robbing guys. They sent a unit right over. Needless to say, I think these dumb SW had to find a new apartment. The least I could do for them.
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Craigslist
First off, Good job Happy! Chicks like that deserve the trouble of finding a new place.
Then Bang, its sounds like you should just date. If you are going to put that much effort into it you might as well make her wash the dishes also. Unless you are already attached. It is one in a million to find a girl who is doing this for money who actually likes the job. They are almost always doing it for just that, the money. They find it easier to scam than just earn it like they should, being it is the "oldest profession". I have found most do it for a man who wants to sit at home and make her be the bread winner.
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Veronica
Saw good reviews for this "addicting latina native mix", so I dreamt I paid her a visit. Way, way down southwest.
Pics are great and the pics are real. She's a very beautiful girl. In this dream, she delivered as promised.
For me, she is 1/2 hour or quickie material. Max. Anything more than that would be too much. She wants you in and out. No conversation, no kissing, no GFE. Well, there was conversation."Oh no, no, I really don't like that." Skipping any niceties I dreamt I just moved on to doggie. Which was very, very good. For me. She just went back to texting.
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ooo-come-play-with-this-addicting-latinanative-mix-ooo-20/12193600[/url]
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Veronica
[QUOTE=DelCarbon; 1251237]Saw good reviews for this "addicting latina native mix", so I dreamt I paid her a visit. Way, way down southwest.
Pics are great and the pics are real. She's a very beautiful girl. In this dream, she delivered as promised.
For me, she is 1/2 hour or quickie material. Max. Anything more than that would be too much. She wants you in and out. No conversation, no kissing, no GFE. Well, there was conversation."Oh no, no, I really don't like that." Skipping any niceties I dreamt I just moved on to doggie. Which was very, very good. For me. She just went back to texting.
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ooo-come-play-with-this-addicting-latinanative-mix-ooo-20/12193600[/url][/QUOTE]Its good to hear you had good luck. She has been reported on in the "BackPage" section before.
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[QUOTE=DelCarbon;1251237][url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ooo-come-play-with-this-addicting-latinanative-mix-ooo-20/12193600[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks Veronica!
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[QUOTE=Bangaltiger; 1250207]Hello,
I have had some conversations with members in phoenix area and CA about there experiences with non pros. Knowing the state of the economy and the rates posted on BP. I sometimes feel I am looking at this the wrong way. Either I am in completely wrong job which does not pay me enough to venture into this.
But that is not the reason for the post. Will like to share some thoughts about usefulness or lack of it. Of CL. In my experience.
Still there are some gems to be found on CL. But the posts for w4m in CL get flagged within minutes.
Second. I have posted on CL a few times. And found that either there are still some pros who watch the board and try and push a high price deal. Or you get a lot of spam. But once you cut the clutter you might find some very amazing gems still.
First the positive experiences. Over last year I think I have posted about 4 to 5 times. And have met 2 amazing ladies. One is a BBW. Not really my type. But her willingness has kept me going. She can suck the chrome off of a pipe and will ask for more. Second is a beautiful spinner in her 40's. Having some difficulties with some bills. It has been worth the time and effort I had to put into it. (it is more like dating with benefits. So I say it is lot of work. Also both of them are not really looking for anyone else. If things change I will post there info on board with their permission)
Now some feedback which I will like to get from members. Before I go into this rant. I will like to clarify I am not raciest. Actually I am an immigrant also. One of the ladies who responded to this post was of african decent. I was weary about it but I wanted to give it a shot. So I continued conversation. Once we felt some connection. We decided to meet at a public place. A day before the meeting I receive a text and she states she has seen something which has a price tag of $500 which she will like to receive as gift for meeting her. I was taken back. I stated to her I think 1000 times before purchasing something worth $200. I am not going to just pick it up for seeing her. She said sorry but still wanted to meet. So I went ahead with the meeting at a upscale bar. Treated her with respect and did not even touch her. She said she wanted to meet in person next time to have good time. Next weekend I get text message from her she really wants to see me and I should pick her up. Somehow my gut feeling was against it so I made some excuse and requested raincheck. Next day I receive a message (in her words)"I need some assistance, not much just $800". I was taken back AGAIN. This time I decided to cut the conversation. Two days later I get a text that. I misled her. And I was not true to my word and did not help her. And she was going to publish my info on CL and tell every girl on CL about it.
Now knowing the recent posts and experiences by members about BSW's and this experience. Is it just me or most of the African women give bad vibes. With there sense of entitlement. And again I am not trying to be raciest just asking a generic opinion.
Sorry about the rant and long dream.
Be safe.
BT[/QUOTE]Be careful with the sisters, man! LOL.
Just from my observations about black girls in this biz, more than likely, they only respect money & "gangsters".
That's the truth. I've witnessed how things go "behind the scenes" with the sisters. All most of them want is your money and a thuggish man to share it with. No matter how nice she is or how much you think she really likes you, there is no middle ground with the sisters. There's only the "suckers" that she use for resources & the hardened, street smart, tattooed thugs that they truly love.
I hope I'm not coming off racist, that's definitely not my intent. As I've stated before, I dig the sisters. Love their full lips, round butts, and thick thighs LOL. These are just my observations.
I work with black men who say the same thing about the sisters. Mind you, these are not the hardened, street thug, jail bird type. They're blue collar all the way.
Very interesting to listen to them talk about sisters in general. These guys avoid black women like the plague. They always say that the sisters will use them for all they got, but give all her allegiance & love to the "thug types". That's how alot of BSW's get forced into this profession. The thug types are normally the ones who introduce them to the business. As fate would have it, he'll knock her up with a few kids before he's inevitably sent to prison, leaving her out as a single mom to fend for herself. She'll either go work for another pimp or become a "rogue" and go the independent route. They become so accustomed to the lifestyle, the thought of finding a normal job seems almost alien.
These girls fiend delusion. They can't deal with the reality they created for themselves, so they have to keep their minds off in la la land. You know. Vain things. Material things. Obsessed with image. Of course that leads to living in a world of style over substance. Exactly where the pimps want them to be. As long as these girls keep their minds focused on the superficial, they'll only tailspin into more misery.
And contrary to what you might believe, they see the nice guy types who try to help them out of their situation as "suckers,"lames", or "squares". You only set yourself up for the slaughter. Most of these girls come up rough and live off raw survival instincts. They're used to dealing with men that they have to guess & wonder if "he really loves me or not". Pimps. Gangsters. Hoodlums.
As a functional person, you may look at the situation and say "all she needs is a little bit of love" LOL. You'll get burnt. Believe me, I've experienced most of what I'm talking about.
If these girls didn't want the super macho, MTV, rapper type of men, they could avoid a lot of pain in their lives. Victims of their own superficial, shallow mate seeking skills. Sisters are very strong types. They're macho themselves. Just imagine how macho or "tough" a man has to be to impress them? The decent, blue collar black guys aren't even on their radar. They don't even notice them. They want the flash.
I'm telling you, man. I've been behind the scenes. These are the reasons why sisters in general seem a "little to strong" sometimes. I don't want to say any names, but I've dealt with a few local BSW's who were dealing with circumstances like this.
I'm going to just stop right here. This could go on all day. I'm only beginning to scratch the surface, but I don't want to ramble on all day LOL.
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It's people like you!
[QUOTE=M9868; 944143]This girl tried to meet me at my car and take my money back to her room without me.
Camille.
917-440-3037[/QUOTE]Thanks M9868,
I'ts men like you that make up bull shit lies and false reviews!
I am writing this because still to this day new clients see this falsified review and judge me before getting a real chance to meet me!
Whatever your insecurities are that's not my fault and I shouldn't have to continually pay for it!
I wish you were a respectable human being and had something better to do with your time than make up lies!
If you have an issue with my post please be a man and respond appropriately instead of making another fake review!
Camille
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[QUOTE=Hummer Bird;1251482]Thanks Veronica![/QUOTE]I will second the "thanks". I had a great time with her. Just haven't had time to go back for seconds. Top of my to do list.