Seeking Arrangement

[QUOTE=Jackknoff;5579503]Just got back in SA after a few year absence. Two things immediately jump out to me as very different than my experience around 2018. I wanted to some of you experienced guys' take on it.

1. I get favorited (frequeny) and messaged (sometimes) for women from other countries (sometimes in the US, but far away). I'm talking 10 times a day minimum. Like what is some Venezuelan hottie going to do for me in terms of a Sb relationship? I usually block and move in, but it's annoying.

2. I get messages of woman who want to get together, we message shared interests, we even take it to texting to work out the arrangement, do some light flirting, maybe some sexting, etc. 20+ messages in I look at the activity tab on her SA profile and she hasn't even looked at my profile yet. There are at least 8 girls that to going back abd forth with right now that haven't even looked at my profile, yet have have lots of back and forth texts / messages with me.

Not sure if I'm doing a good job explaining it. See pic.

I know the chicks from foreign countries are likely scammers (or want to sell pics as if porn wasn't free), but are the "no look girls" also scammers? I haven't been asked to send money yet (and I'd never be stupid enough to do so).

What do you guys think? Is this a hack to see if a girl is a likely scammer?[/QUOTE]Considering the time investment, I just blindly hide the overseas girls who likes my profiles. For the local girls, I will check if they have seen my profile or not. It increases the confidence level. However, I have seen real girls who like or chat without viewing my profile and they are most likely be pros.

[QUOTE=OaklandT309;5581476]I was doing the SB thing via SA for a couple years so I have some personal experience answers.
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3) it's a mixed bag. I'd guess 20% are just prostitutes, another 20% are looking to sell content and FaceTime and will never meet in person. 10% are in it for the SB lifestyle; they want vacations, shopping sprees etc. The majority of the other 50% are single moms and girls with little education and are seriously under-employed and desperate for money. Wait till the holidays: the number of new women on there will soar.[/QUOTE]These figures seem roughly correct, in my experience, although they've changed over time. Since Covid, a lot more girls are saying, "Gee, I'd love to meet, but with the pandemic it would have to be online only. " SA used to have a policy (I'm not sure it was ever enforced) against online-only arrangements. There is also another category of girl: those who really have no interest in either meeting or in selling content. They just like the attention that they get on the site.

[QUOTE=OaklandT309;5581476] 4) Ahh, you must be looking for straight up prostitutes if you expect their profiles to give a price list. If none exists then just ask them AFTER you've messaged a few times if you want a real SB relationship. If your first text is "What are your prices and do you do anal?" (I've had several tell me they get those kind of messages) a legit SB will ignore you or tell you to FO. Start with "So anyway, let's talk about business. " Even the real SBs know it's all about the money, honey.[/QUOTE]Talkiing about sex and money is the fastest route to being thrown off the site (with no refund). Any such discussions should be off-site.

[QUOTE=OaklandT309;5581476]5) I had a few- very few- get cold feet and no-show or cancel last minute. These are women desperate for money but have never had sex for compensation before and can't go through with it.[/QUOTE]I've had a few of those. Some I think just couldn't go through with it at the last minute. A couple of them, looking back, I think had no intention of ever meeting. Fortunately, I have been careful and never paid for a room for a no-show.

[QUOTE=OaklandT309;5581476] If you go the SB route keep one thing in your head as sure as death and taxes. I don't care if you've been seeing her for 6 months. I don't care if she says she loves you. Not one in 1000 will give you the time of day if it weren't for your money. You might get a random platonic meeting now and then if you're otherwise very generous or give her an allowance. But she's only there for the money, period. Don't ever forget it.[/QUOTE]Actually, I've had a couple of experiences where the girls would have continued seeing me because they got very attached, a couple where they volunteered that they would take less money per meet if we could meet more often, and one where she said that if we got another girl to join us, anything the second girl was paid could come out of her allowance. I have never cut back or eliminated what I was paying because I didn't want to send the wrong signals about commitment. (I'm married, and happily so.).

I will say that throughout my sixties, my sex life has never been better as a consequence of SA, and I've met some really terrific girls.

[QUOTE=LoVecchio;5582741]These figures seem roughly correct, in my experience, although they've changed over time. Since Covid, a lot more girls are saying, "Gee, I'd love to meet, but with the pandemic it would have to be online only. " SA used to have a policy (I'm not sure it was ever enforced) against online-only arrangements. There is also another category of girl: those who really have no interest in either meeting or in selling content. They just like the attention that they get on the site.

Talkiing about sex and money is the fastest route to being thrown off the site (with no refund). Any such discussions should be off-site.

I've had a few of those. Some I think just couldn't go through with it at the last minute. A couple of them, looking back, I think had no intention of ever meeting. Fortunately, I have been careful and never paid for a room for a no-show.

Actually, I've had a couple of experiences where the girls would have continued seeing me because they got very attached, a couple where they volunteered that they would take less money per meet if we could meet more often, and one where she said that if we got another girl to join us, anything the second girl was paid could come out of her allowance..[/QUOTE]Here's one for our dashing young SB newbie:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d3c59a52-158b-4903-b725-b4823708aad2[/URL]

Straight up prostitute. Raging addict too. Seriously fucked in the head with PTSD for past abuse to boot.

Her number is at the end of the link if wants to bypass paying a membership fee to contact her.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/phone/313-356-2728[/URL]

I had a couple I would categorize as terrific girls too. But only one was actually 100% honest about herself, her life, her past, and essentially everything else that flowed out of her mouths that was important for me to know. When you find out they've told you a belly full of lies (and the truth always has a habit of revealing itself somehow) you begin to not trust anything they say or do. Then it's past time to move on.

I did meet one who said her SD dumped her when she confessed she had developed feeling for him.

Isn't agreeing to accept less per meet, but with increased frequency, actually paying more per month in the long run? I guess it depends on the per-meet discount.

I turned 40, I am really I'll and the average life expectancy is not the longest. I would like to entertain someone college age, even 18 or 19. Both of us enthusiastically consenting. I treat her like a lady should be treated, she has a great time. Maybe a fantasy.

[QUOTE=OaklandT309;5582903]Here's one for our dashing young SB newbie:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d3c59a52-158b-4903-b725-b4823708aad2[/URL]

Straight up prostitute. Raging addict too. Seriously fucked in the head with PTSD for past abuse to boot.

Her number is at the end of the link if wants to bypass paying a membership fee to contact her.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/phone/313-356-2728[/URL]

I had a couple I would categorize as terrific girls too. But only one was actually 100% honest about herself, her life, her past, and essentially everything else that flowed out of her mouths that was important for me to know. When you find out they've told you a belly full of lies (and the truth always has a habit of revealing itself somehow) you begin to not trust anything they say or do. Then it's past time to move on.

I did meet one who said her SD dumped her when she confessed she had developed feeling for him.

Isn't agreeing to accept less per meet, but with increased frequency, actually paying more per month in the long run? I guess it depends on the per-meet discount.[/QUOTE]

Found a cutie who's open to hanging out but she won't host for the first few times. Most of my hotel arrangements have been in the burbs but she's not big on driving that far.

Anyone know of a clean / safe hotel on the Woodward corridor that allows an early check in?

Preferably New Center or Midtown.

Looking at St Regis. But they say 3:00 on the phone and website. I'm sure they'd let me check in early if I showed up, but figured I'd ask.

Appreciate the help.

[QUOTE=MyWagoneer;5584763]Found a cutie who's open to hanging out but she won't host for the first few times. Most of my hotel arrangements have been in the burbs but she's not big on driving that far.

Anyone know of a clean / safe hotel on the Woodward corridor that allows an early check in?

Preferably New Center or Midtown.

Looking at St Regis. But they say 3:00 on the phone and website. I'm sure they'd let me check in early if I showed up, but figured I'd ask.

Appreciate the help.[/QUOTE]Better price and you can't beat the view.

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[QUOTE=MyWagoneer;5584763]Found a cutie who's open to hanging out but she won't host for the first few times. Most of my hotel arrangements have been in the burbs but she's not big on driving that far.

Anyone know of a clean / safe hotel on the Woodward corridor that allows an early check in?

Preferably New Center or Midtown.

Looking at St Regis. But they say 3:00 on the phone and website. I'm sure they'd let me check in early if I showed up, but figured I'd ask.

Appreciate the help.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for a guaranteed early check-in, there aren't many places that will do that, so you are at their mercy if you just show up. I like to meet late mornings, so that is often a problem. Typically what I do is reserve rooms at a few different places (all places that allow cancellation the day of the reservation) and then call around in the morning to see where I can get in. It has always worked for me, although one time, it was the fourth place I called. On two occasions, when I was setting up an earlier meeting and was very concerned about not being able to find a place the morning of, I actually reserved the room for two nights. That was obviously an expensive course, but it saved a lot of anxiety on the morning of the meeting. Obviously, you would only do this with someone whom you are sure will show up.

[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;5585005]Better price and you can't beat the view.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

[QUOTE=LoVecchio;5585599]If you are looking for a guaranteed early check-in, there aren't many places that will do that, so you are at their mercy if you just show up. I like to meet late mornings, so that is often a problem. Typically what I do is reserve rooms at a few different places (all places that allow cancellation the day of the reservation) and then call around in the morning to see where I can get in. It has always worked for me, although one time, it was the fourth place I called. On two occasions, when I was setting up an earlier meeting and was very concerned about not being able to find a place the morning of, I actually reserved the room for two nights. That was obviously an expensive course, but it saved a lot of anxiety on the morning of the meeting. Obviously, you would only do this with someone whom you are sure will show up.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the detail. The things we do for this hobby. Haha.

[QUOTE=LoVecchio;5585599]If you are looking for a guaranteed early check-in, there aren't many places that will do that, so you are at their mercy if you just show up. I like to meet late mornings, so that is often a problem. Typically what I do is reserve rooms at a few different places (all places that allow cancellation the day of the reservation) and then call around in the morning to see where I can get in. It has always worked for me, although one time, it was the fourth place I called. On two occasions, when I was setting up an earlier meeting and was very concerned about not being able to find a place the morning of, I actually reserved the room for two nights. That was obviously an expensive course, but it saved a lot of anxiety on the morning of the meeting. Obviously, you would only do this with someone whom you are sure will show up.[/QUOTE]Ditto this. I ran into this same situation. Needed a room for 11:00 am meet ups. I would book the room for two nights and request late check out, usually 1:00 pm. Go and check-in day before the meet up, and then cancel second night while I am there. Now you have the room until about 1:00 pm the next day. And haven't had any problem paying cash w / o them running CC.

I only saw Carter once. And this sure looks like her. But she swears it isn't.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/637d6154-08ae-4dc7-ab79-7878290c676f[/URL]

[QUOTE=MyWagoneer;5586648]I only saw Carter once. And this sure looks like her. But she swears it isn't.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/637d6154-08ae-4dc7-ab79-7878290c676f[/URL][/QUOTE]Not who you're thinking of.

[QUOTE=DMichael5;5586078]Ditto this. I ran into this same situation. Needed a room for 11:00 am meet ups. I would book the room for two nights and request late check out, usually 1:00 pm. Go and check-in day before the meet up, and then cancel second night while I am there. Now you have the room until about 1:00 pm the next day. And haven't had any problem paying cash w / o them running CC.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.dayuse.com/[/URL] allows you to search hotels that have room rentals during the day.

What are you guys typically paying for first time PPM? Younger, beautiful girl?

Thanks.