Massage Parlor Reports (Formerly Pine)

Actually, you'd be surprised how many guys co-own AMPs. I'm one of them. Customers know me and are not worried. If LEO really was involved, they would be hiding. They would not be sitting behind the desk greeting people. Bob.

[QUOTE=Kampyone;3348816]Stopped in at Heaven this morning around 1030. Was greeted by a guy (stocky white guy with beard) who told me that 'the girl should be here soon'. I said I'll come back later. Being in unfamiliar waters having never been there before and NEVER seeing a guy in charge an AMP, I was spooked. As I walked out, my first thought was a LEO sting is being set up. Hopefully I'm over reacting and all is good in the Heaven AMP world.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Axel6;3321832]Went to heaven today for the first time with Cici for 30 minutes. Gorgeous young talent who I believe is the blonde in their backpage photo or very close. A delightful personality who gave an ok massage but finished very well. Hopefully this place stays around for a while. I plan on returning but only for the 1/2 hour. . 45 at the door and. 4 for the tip.[/QUOTE]Redeye / google image says it's a stock photo.

Can somebody post review of Heaven lineup. Reviews seem to be improving.

[QUOTE=Newtstap;3331414]Been there twice, both times no hint of extras, but the massages were very good. I was exhausted after, but not a kink in my armour. Would go again. Nothing to look at, but really excellent legit massage. Maybe I'll be a little more aggressive in hinting, as I've been out of the game for some time.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RRR1960;3346467]Went to Antioch today- first time user. Place appears completely legit early 50's lady. Not bad looking, not a MILF Pretty much a women that would work in a pinch, that is assuming more was available but it wasn't today. Patients maybe.[/QUOTE]Did either of you read my report? I TOFTT at least a month ago.

Enough visits at most legit places could have you leaving with a smile, if you're up for the challenge and have a deep enough wallet.

Took a chance on a new place I saw advertised in Wauconda. [URL]https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6100813260.html[/URL] I was pressed for time, so I opted for the $45 half hour. Paid, she left and returned to me naked / no towel (got to give that sign early). She did sort of cover me, but not very aggressively. Worked the massage, then some nice teasing, flip and a very nice handshake. 40 tip, and out the door. No negotiation needed. She was Korean (I think) 30's, decent shape. Did not push for any access of her, was really just interested in a decent massage and a handshake. I will be back.

So thinking about trying heaven after reading good reviews about it. Seems like all why'all prefer bella over cici. From the description it seems like cici is a lot younger (which I prefer) but why is bella better? Is she better looking? Better body? Which one should I ask for?

[QUOTE=Jack68;3364620]So thinking about trying heaven after reading good reviews about it. Seems like all why'all prefer bella over cici. From the description it seems like cici is a lot younger (which I prefer) but why is bella better? Is she better looking? Better body? Which one should I ask for?[/QUOTE]I see it's your first post and you're already asking for information.

Ballsy!

Typically at these Asian places around here, you get-who-you-get. Can't usually pick a specific girl. (there are exceptions, a few Asian places where you can pick do exist, but are in the minority).
Even if you call ahead and make an appointment, makes no difference, you get whoever's available when you get there. I've tried calling ahead lots of times to these places, and half the time the girl I wanted is already busy with somebody else when I get there. It's like the word "Appointment" doesn't exist, or has a highly different meaning.

Just go. Take whatever girl they give you, don't ask questions, and (discreetly) report back. I've reviewed that place a few times if you read further back in the forums or use the SEARCH feature. Place is usually enjoyable, but I've always gotten shorted on time (by 20-30 minutes when I do an hour appointment. I'd suggest going with a half-hour there).

Enforcing an appointment strategy is easier said than done. Part of the problem is language and part of the problem is customers tend to be spur-of-the-moment shoppers. The other problem is no-shows. We turn away walk-ins in order to honor appointments. So if someone makes an appointment and then no-shows (without telling us) we lose money. Texting an hour or two ahead of time is the best way to make an appointment when language issues exist. Plus you can ask for your preferred MT.

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;3365101]I see it's your first post and you're already asking for information.

Ballsy!

Typically at these Asian places around here, you get-who-you-get. Can't usually pick a specific girl. (there are exceptions, a few Asian places where you can pick do exist, but are in the minority).
Even if you call ahead and make an appointment, makes no difference, you get whoever's available when you get there. I've tried calling ahead lots of times to these places, and half the time the girl I wanted is already busy with somebody else when I get there. It's like the word "Appointment" doesn't exist, or has a highly different meaning.

Just go. Take whatever girl they give you, don't ask questions, and (discreetly) report back. I've reviewed that place a few times if you read further back in the forums or use the SEARCH feature. Place is usually enjoyable, but I've always gotten shorted on time (by 20-30 minutes when I do an hour appointment. I'd suggest going with a half-hour there).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3367016]Enforcing an appointment strategy is easier said than done. Part of the problem is language and part of the problem is customers tend to be spur-of-the-moment shoppers. The other problem is no-shows. We turn away walk-ins in order to honor appointments. So if someone makes an appointment and then no-shows (without telling us) we lose money. Texting an hour or two ahead of time is the best way to make an appointment when language issues exist. Plus you can ask for your preferred MT.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bob! I probably should have been more specific, was referring mainly to the happy-ending AMPs that the new member was asking about, rather than the legal / legitimate / no HE places. Occasionally my Milwaukee WI place I frequent a lot will change girls on me at the last minute, but typically at my "Legit" places, I find that an Appointment = an Appointment and I see who I think I'm going to see. But just doesn't happen in those other kind of joints. One noticeable exception was Anna's UTR. (Dang I miss her places being around, took it for granted I think.).

Oh yes, I agree 100% with you. I was just relating "why" it happens at those places. Anna really was a smart business-lady who understood a lot about her clients. I would venture to guess that the perception among shop owners is that (a) workers are, and should be viewed as interchangable, and (b) customers get bored easily and always want to meet new girls. Therefore, a walk-in strategy where the owner dictates who gets who, is vastly easier to manage.

So the question is what to do about this? From my "old" days, a couple years ago, if I met a MT that I wanted to return to, I would ask to share WeChat contact information. My old posts cover this in detail. Just say, (using Google Translate): "I like you and I want to see you again. But I'm afraid you might go to another store". That way, you can essentially have her help you make the appointment. She'll tell you what day, what time, and, for that matter, if she has changed stores, what store. The girl wants you to see her (unless you are a jerk) so she will be happy to help you finagle how and when to see you. And if she gets a day off, you might be able to spend free time with her. Try to become loyal to the person vs the store. Unless the person you like is the owner. THEN you can be loyal to the store.

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;3370761]Thanks Bob! I probably should have been more specific, was referring mainly to the happy-ending AMPs that the new member was asking about, rather than the legal / legitimate / no HE places. Occasionally my Milwaukee WI place I frequent a lot will change girls on me at the last minute, but typically at my "Legit" places, I find that an Appointment = an Appointment and I see who I think I'm going to see. But just doesn't happen in those other kind of joints. One noticeable exception was Anna's UTR. (Dang I miss her places being around, took it for granted I think.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3371129]Oh yes, I agree 100% with you. I was just relating "why" it happens at those places. Anna really was a smart business-lady who understood a lot about her clients. ,

So the question is what to do about this? From my "old" days, a couple years ago, if I met a MT that I wanted to return to, I would ask to share WeChat contact information. My old posts cover this in detail. Just say, (using Google Translate): "I like you and I want to see you again. But I'm afraid you might go to another store". That way, you can essentially have her help you make the appointment. She'll tell you what day, what time, and, for that matter, if she has changed stores, what store. The girl wants you to see her (unless you are a jerk) so she will be happy to help you finagle how and when to see you. And if she gets a day off, you might be able to spend free time with her. Try to become loyal to the person vs the store. Unless the person you like is the owner. THEN you can be loyal to the store.[/QUOTE]I like that idea; Except the fact that I'm an idiot and couldn't figure out WeChat. Some computer programs / Apps come easily to me, and some are Kryptonite. WeChat was the latter. Had it in my phone a year, pretty much unused and with no contacts, then erased it.

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;3371305]I like that idea; Except the fact that I'm an idiot and couldn't figure out WeChat. Some computer programs / Apps come easily to me, and some are Kryptonite. WeChat was the latter. Had it in my phone a year, pretty much unused and with no contacts, then erased it.[/QUOTE]I only accomplished this once and it was with my favorite Anna gal, Bella. She stayed in touch and tried to get me down to her new place in glenn ellen. Hard to explain to her that it's so far! Anyway, I found she was very receptive to exchanging information and for the 6 months she was still with Anna. She would tell me when it's slow and needed a visit. Ahhhhh Bella.

WeChat kept me in touch with L (aka Mei) during the early times when she left Anna's legit place, I followed her (from Long Grove) to Aurora, Central Illinois, Iowa, Chinatown, Wisconsin, Rockford, and various other places. I calculated that buying the spa was cheaper than the gas I was paying. I have about 50 contacts, including business associates from China, store owners, USASG members, and friends. Don't overlook the fact that it leaves a very small erasable digital footprint compared to a phone. Plus you can hide the app so people don't realize it is on your phone. The built in translator function makes it a killer app, (but I warn you in advance its only 80% accurate. So verify anything that seems off.). Anybody that wants to contact me on WeChat, PM me and I'll give you my WeChat name.

[QUOTE=Yeouch;3372892]I only accomplished this once and it was with my favorite Anna gal, Bella. She stayed in touch and tried to get me down to her new place in glenn ellen. Hard to explain to her that it's so far! Anyway, I found she was very receptive to exchanging information and for the 6 months she was still with Anna. She would tell me when it's slow and needed a visit. Ahhhhh Bella.[/QUOTE]

Walked into Heaven after my little scare last week after seeing a guy in charge. Thanks everyone for clearing that up. This time was greeted by a sweet, cute little gal. Instead of telling me the hh / hour rates at the lobby, she walked me straight to the room. Price is 45/60. Based on postings saying you get shorted by 15-20 minutes for an hour, I told her half hour.

I always ask to use the washroom. For two reasons. One is to take a leak so the tank is dry. Second is to check the place out a bit. The back room appears to be a large kitchen / breakroom. There is a shower room and a bathroom right off the kitchen. I saw a handcloth drying out on the handicap rail by the toilet (yuck? The other girl must have just taken a shower as the smell of soap and shampoo was heavy in the air and she was sitting at the table with a towel wrapped around her hair. She was wearing a tight sleeveless shirt. Nice body on her, too. She looked low 30's without makeup.

MT tells me to get ready. The room is very private and I like how they put a small sheet over the lamp cover to dampen the light a bit. The table has thin paper sheets on the table and also where your face goes. She walks in and I learn her name is Cici. She has longish hair, is very young, very cute, very small, and very thin. Large As or small Bs up top. She was wearing those tight cotton sweat pants and a t shirt that hung very loose on the bottom. I opted for medium massage and she was ok. As usual, I'm not an expert, so as long as they put some muscle into the effort, I'm ok with it. She used oil that was lightly or maybe unscented. Did some minor teasing on the crack and inner thigh but didn't touch the boys. Asked "feel good?" a few times. I roamed a bit with her inner thigh and rear. She said "I get hot towel now" which gave me the creeps as I thought about that towel in the bathroom. I bit the bullet and she cleaned the oil off.

On the flip, she got more oil did the legs and more teasing as she moved up, this time touching the boys a little as she worked around the target area. I was allowed roaming under the pants on her rear. She has a nice, little ass. After a few more "feel good?"s she moved her efforts to the main event. Tip was never brought up. I roamed along her back and moved to her tummy and tried for the girls but she giggled and gave me the back off. I stuck with roaming her ass and she finished me off. Again, the hot towel for cleanup.

When getting dressed I asked a couple of questions and was surprised to find out she has been hiding her English skills. She spoke in full sentences and understood my questions and comments that had nothing to do with shop talk. Also, noted that she changed the cover sheet when we were talking. Again, she didn't ask for a tip, and I gave her the usual. 4 for the effort. I looked at the clock and was shorted 2 minutes. (23-51).

Overall, a very nice experience. I liked having an actual young, cute girl vs the middle age ones we're used to having. The only complaint, if it is one, is that she could be more playful. I got the vibe that there isn't more options other than HJ. But I didn't ask either. YMMV.

Damage. Hh 45/40.

Good -. Cute, young girl. The other girl looked nice, too. Didn't ask for tip. Didn't beg for more. Private room was nice and clean.

Bad. Location is on Green Bay Rd. In strip mall and near a beer / cig store that seems busy so the walk of shame is very visible. Based on others, you get shorted by 15 minutes if you take the hour. I was shorted 2 minutes on the half hour. LOL.

Ugly. Possible multi-use handtowel hanging in bathroom.

Have always wondered about this place, and close to work, so TOFTT to see how "new renovation and young girls" was working out.

Pleasantly surprised by the size of the place. Probably 4-6 rooms, clean and full doors in nice rooms. MT was on the young side, with incredible massage skills. I was happy with the experience and had no idea if extras. Didn't push it on the flip other than a few touches of mr large, but didn't ask. Saw an older, but attractive MT on the way out.

Anyway. Wonder if anyone has been there and gotten extras? PM or reply. I'll be going back for another visit based on massage alone, and will push the issues further if I don't hear from anyone and report back.

NOTE - ReadyforRub reviewed under "craigslist" section and had similar experience with no happy....

I went there about 3-4 years ago when I think they first opened and also had a young lady very attractive. Great massage and also no ending but I did go a few more times just for the massage. I think they are legit because their ad says they have a dr. On site and offer acupuncture too.

[QUOTE=Yeouch;3374335]Have always wondered about this place, and close to work, so TOFTT to see how "new renovation and young girls" was working out.

Pleasantly surprised by the size of the place. Probably 4-6 rooms, clean and full doors in nice rooms. MT was on the young side, with incredible massage skills. I was happy with the experience and had no idea if extras. Didn't push it on the flip other than a few touches of mr large, but didn't ask. Saw an older, but attractive MT on the way out.

Anyway. Wonder if anyone has been there and gotten extras? PM or reply. I'll be going back for another visit based on massage alone, and will push the issues further if I don't hear from anyone and report back.

NOTE - ReadyforRub reviewed under "craigslist" section and had similar experience with no happy....[/QUOTE]