Is there a SA for Dummies or anything? LOL, j / k, but really, I have no idea what to put in the profile, what to say in the 1st attempt to talk with them? Anyone have pointers? PM or post.
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Is there a SA for Dummies or anything? LOL, j / k, but really, I have no idea what to put in the profile, what to say in the 1st attempt to talk with them? Anyone have pointers? PM or post.
[QUOTE=RICheeseHead;3864377]Is there a SA for Dummies or anything? LOL, j / k, but really, I have no idea what to put in the profile, what to say in the 1st attempt to talk with them? Anyone have pointers? PM or post.[/QUOTE]I'd say put something interesting in the profile.
Be clear about your expectations.
In the intro message say "Hi I read your profile. You're very cute. I'm looking for XYZ" I usually say I'm looking for a mutually beneficial arrangement. Ask them what they want.
I've had chicks say in their first message back "$200 per meet. No anal. " LOL.
[QUOTE=RICheeseHead;3864377]Is there a SA for Dummies or anything? LOL, j / k, but really, I have no idea what to put in the profile, what to say in the 1st attempt to talk with them? Anyone have pointers? PM or post.[/QUOTE]When you get a chance check out the Richmond, VA SA forum. That seems to have the most information out of all the SA threads across the country. A lot of good info in there even though it doesn't apply to your location.
In my experience you will have the best luck if your schedules line up within a day or two of first starting to talk. Also if you are shooting for the younger college age type, the majority of them can't or don't want to host so have a plan for that as well.
[QUOTE=RICheeseHead;3864377]Is there a SA for Dummies or anything? LOL, j / k, but really, I have no idea what to put in the profile, what to say in the 1st attempt to talk with them? Anyone have pointers? PM or post.[/QUOTE]There actually sort of is. Here's a link to the thread:
[URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ]Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ[/URL]
[QUOTE=SwimSays;3865322]When you get a chance check out the Richmond, VA SA forum. That seems to have the most information out of all the SA threads across the country. A lot of good info in there even though it doesn't apply to your location.
In my experience you will have the best luck if your schedules line up within a day or two of first starting to talk. Also if you are shooting for the younger college age type, the majority of them can't or don't want to host so have a plan for that as well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RICheeseHead;3864377]Is there a SA for Dummies or anything? LOL, j / k, but really, I have no idea what to put in the profile, what to say in the 1st attempt to talk with them? Anyone have pointers? PM or post.[/QUOTE]I've generally had much better success when they don't ask for money for a meet up. I've had a few where I've talked them out of providing money for a meet (I'd never pay to have lunch with someone), but those girls are still too focused on getting money without putting forth effort. I also agree about the previous comment regarding schedules. If things don't line up with schedules in the first day or so, it's probably not going to work.
In light of recent events, we thought it might be time for a refresher course in the definitions of Sugar. Many are quick to label the Sugar lifestyle choice as prostitution, but there are many differences between this lifestyle and the oldest profession. High-end or not, a call girl is not an interchangeable word for a Sugar Baby. Here are four reasons why.
1. A Relationship vs A Transaction.
A prostitute and a client have a transactional relationship. They meet, exchange funds, and participate in some sort of physical act and part ways. Typically, this is a one time occurrence. A job. There is no relationship, and no possibility for a relationship. And that is the key difference really: Relationship.
Sugar Babies and Sugar Daddies have on-going relationships, not transactions. More often than not, a Sugar relationship will resemble that of a girlfriend-boyfriend relationship. There are real connections and real possibilities at romance, something that is not in the realm of possibility with an escort or prostitute. Just because a relationship doesn't follow the traditional rules of courtship, doesn't mean it isn't valid. It also doesn't mean it's illegal.
2. Being a Sugar Baby vs Being a Prostitute.
Sugar is a lifestyle choice, not a profession. A sugar baby is a woman who wants to date financially secure men who can provide her with the lifestyle she desires. She's selective about who she dates; a prostitute isn't picky about who she takes on as a client. The risks involved with prostitution are countless, and include exposure to crime, abuse, sexually transmitted diseases and theft of service. Many prostitutes are also subject to physical and emotional abuse, especially when involved with a pimp. And in Sugar, sex is never a requirement, only an aspiration.
3. Dating a Sugar Baby vs Ordering a Prostitute.
A Sugar Daddy is generous, and wants to see their partner succeed. When two people are involved in a mutually beneficial relationship, they respect and value one another's time. Sugar relationships can turn into long term serious relationships.
Prostitutes are paid to perform a service, while Sugar Babies sometimes receive funds as an added benefit of dating a generous man. A john doesn't want a hooker to stick around, and a Sugar Daddy doesn't want his Sugar Baby to leave. While an escort might have a sordid sexual history, a Sugar relationship is often monogamous.
4. Quality vs Quantity.
Most Sugar Babies aren't solely involved in the sugar world. Sugar Babies are also teachers, college students, actresses, and business professionals. They seek successful mentors that can advance their career, not a temporary fix. Sugar Babies can be present in the lives of Sugar Daddies because they have long-term professional goals, and interesting personalities to keep everyone intrigued.
Prostitutes on the other hand, use their trade as a source of income — it's a last resort for many women who are pressed for money. They aren't looking for mentors or anyone with a specific level of expertise.
You may meet hundreds of prostitutes before finding anyone to fulfill your emotional needs. Prostitutes are hired to role play for the evening — they'll be whomever you want them to be, but they won't necessarily be themselves. She treats you like a job, not like a man.
Met with two ladies. Both at my hotel.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8b3e3a79-11c8-7964-7c61-5c9c806a0449[/URL]
More down to earth and real than I expected and what her pics and profile suggest. But virtually no head game and crazy paranoid about germs and sperm. Got up to wash repeatedly. Nice girl, but I don't plan to see her again.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3cd13f29-1f2f-4e2d-aeae-5f51ef8b2b82[/URL]
She is for real. Funny, sweet, and genuine. Had a good time. Very talented hands and mouth. But very passive beyond that point.
Oh and there is some girl. NaughtyBby6 or something like that. Who is a total scammer. Avoid.
[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;3870791]Met with two ladies. Both at my hotel.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8b3e3a79-11c8-7964-7c61-5c9c806a0449[/URL]
More down to earth and real than I expected and what her pics and profile suggest. But virtually no head game and crazy paranoid about germs and sperm. Got up to wash repeatedly. Nice girl, but I don't plan to see her again.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3cd13f29-1f2f-4e2d-aeae-5f51ef8b2b82[/URL]
She is for real. Funny, sweet, and genuine. Had a good time. Very talented hands and mouth. But very passive beyond that point.
Oh and there is some girl. NaughtyBby6 or something like that. Who is a total scammer. Avoid.[/QUOTE]What were they a $king for?
Curious about those having luck on SA. Do you put a photo on your profile? If so, is it real?
I imagine many of us may not want to post or share a real photo.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;3872200]Curious about those having luck on SA. Do you put a photo on your profile? If so, is it real?
I imagine many of us may not want to post or share a real photo.[/QUOTE]Not for nothing, but if you want any success you pretty much need a picture. You can make it half your face and set others private so you decide who sees them. But as for a fake, remember how we feel when we get fakes from girls. Just my 2 cents.
I'm usually pretty careful but current SB wanted bare for whatever reason. Says she is clean. So we did it and was quite amazing. But now I'm having all of those post BBFS doubts. Is this a paternity ploy? Do I ask for paperwork? Seems kind of silly at this point. Am I over thinking this?
[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3872277]I'm usually pretty careful but current SB wanted bare for whatever reason. Says she is clean. So we did it and was quite amazing. But now I'm having all of those post BBFS doubts. Is this a paternity ploy? Do I ask for paperwork? Seems kind of silly at this point. Am I over thinking this?[/QUOTE]If you worth a lot, you don't want child support.
[QUOTE=Oscar13;3872263]Not for nothing, but if you want any success you pretty much need a picture. You can make it half your face and set others private so you decide who sees them. But as for a fake, remember how we feel when we get fakes from girls. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]False. No pic and I do quite well. You have to be a little more proactive in reaching out to the women and you have to have enough skill with words to paint a picture for them in your profile and your opening messages.
Hi,
Anyone has seen bad_habit. We are planning to meet later this week, any info would be appreciated.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/90ca7334-3fec-43ab-b3c0-227cc00016f0[/URL]
[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;3872200]Curious about those having luck on SA. Do you put a photo on your profile? If so, is it real?
I imagine many of us may not want to post or share a real photo.[/QUOTE]I've some some very good luck on SA and I have a fake, private photo in my ad. I found a pic of someone from another country that looks very similar to me but is not a direct face pic. Anyone who knows me would know the photo is not of me. Anyone getting to know me, once the conversation moves to txt or kik, I send a real face pic. No one has complained about the discrepancy in photos yet.
[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3872277]I Is this a paternity ploy?[/QUOTE]
Very likely.
Whatever you do DO NOT COME IN HER, and if kids arent in your future, get snipped.
[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;3872541]False. No pic and I do quite well. You have to be a little more proactive in reaching out to the women and you have to have enough skill with words to paint a picture for them in your profile and your opening messages.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that you have no public pic, no private pic and you are scoring girls without texting / Kik / Snap etc a pic of yourself prior to meeting them?
[QUOTE=SixPacking;3873638]Are you saying that you have no public pic, no private pic and you are scoring girls without texting / Kik / Snap etc a pic of yourself prior to meeting them?[/QUOTE]I have one private pic on SA that is quite distant. Often they ask me to upload more pics and then I say I won't but if we exchange numbers I can text them. That usually gets the number and you are off to the races.
[QUOTE=SixPacking;3873638]Are you saying that you have no public pic, no private pic and you are scoring girls without texting / Kik / Snap etc a pic of yourself prior to meeting them?[/QUOTE]No. I share once we get to text or kik. I'm just saying you don't need one on the site.
[QUOTE=Dwyck;3873145]Very likely.
Whatever you do DO NOT COME IN HER, and if kids arent in your future, get snipped.[/QUOTE]Well crap I've now come inside her five times. The good news is she doesn't know any info about me besides KIK. I didn't realize there were paternity scans out there. Seems like a long con.
[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;3874029]No. I share once we get to text or kik. I'm just saying you don't need one on the site.[/QUOTE]I have my pics on private. One a girl views them I snatch them back if she does not respond basically right away. My opinion is that I still have my pics once I unshare with her unless she is super savvy and she saves them immediately.
Not judging but with your method you can't get your pics back. I will say that what you are doing does intrigue me because is forces her to give a number.
The proverbial horse is out of the barn!! Post BBFS doubts?
[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3875127]Well crap I've now come inside her five times. The good news is she doesn't know any info about me besides KIK. I didn't realize there were paternity scams out there. Seems like a long con.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3872277]I'm usually pretty careful but current SB wanted bare for whatever reason. Says she is clean. So we did it and was quite amazing. But now I'm having all of those post BBFS doubts. Is this a paternity ploy? Do I ask for paperwork? Seems kind of silly at this point. Am I over thinking this?[/QUOTE]
Remember her? Now on SB using the same line 'friends get 500-1000 per meet'. Got it down to a manageable $ but no hosting either side so had to be hotel. That's OK but wanted to see the goods first. She won't do dinner or even a lunch for discretion. Got some photos but they might be a bit older although one shows a fairly attractive woman. All in all might be small chested and no waistline, can't be sure but definitely desirable. She initiated the first contact, just as before, and immediately knew her spiel. Might be ok if you can host but just wasn't comfortable fronting a room without knowing for sure she'd show. She doesn't have a credit card so couldn't reimburse her if she booked. That was tough to get around, has a job, college educated, car, wanted hefty allowance, and no credit card. Maybe shouldn't be so cautious but just didn't satisfy my vetting. Probably just me. Welcome your experience with her if any. Stay safe!
[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3875127] Seems like a long con.[/QUOTE]Yeah, 18 years of payments on your part.
[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3875127]Well crap I've now come inside her five times. The good news is she doesn't know any info about me besides KIK. I didn't realize there were paternity scans out there. Seems like a long con.[/QUOTE]Don't know how [B]good[/B] that news is. Kik isn't impregnable (LOL), and she can get a lawyer to subpoena any records on there.
[URL=https://lawenforcement.kik.com/hc/en-us/articles/204142145-How-can-I-send-an-Order-to-Kik-]How can I send an Order to Kik? Law Enforcement Resource Center[/URL]
[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3875127]Well crap I've now come inside her five times. The good news is she doesn't know any info about me besides KIK. I didn't realize there were paternity scans out there. Seems like a long con.[/QUOTE]I'm just waiting for someone to pull a paternity scam on me. I guess the doctor who performed the vasectomy would have to provide an affidavit.
I haven't had much luck on SA recently. Anyway, had this one come over. When she showed up, I wasn't even sure it was the same woman. She looked "OK", but was dressed very casual looked unkempt. The little head took over, so I went with it. We talked for a bit and she has a very sad background which I won't get into here. BBBJ and CFS $.20. She didn't smell good either.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/02493e2d-0f91-4984-a83c-d0cd72f46f84[/URL]
I met her for a quick talk, and she is lovely, normal, and all around interesting. Don't know what she's hoping to charge.
[QUOTE=RobHere;3872627]Hi,
Anyone has seen bad_habit. We are planning to meet later this week, any info would be appreciated.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/90ca7334-3fec-43ab-b3c0-227cc00016f0[/URL][/QUOTE]
Just switched over to cc since they no longer take paypal. And they required name, etc. I had previously used a ghost email account with a fake name. Used a $100 prepaid debit that I get as a rewards for my spending so they can't rebill in my 30 days.
I'm about to join this site because my under-the-radar girls are running out and there's only a few girls posting on Backpage problem with Backpage is there Junkies hosting out of trap houses and I can't get caught up in that my question is a lot of girls on seeking Arrangements have tattoos in their profile what the hell does that even mean? Are they looking for guys with tattoos?
[QUOTE=Herow;3879438]I met her for a quick talk, and she is lovely, normal, and all around interesting. Don't know what she's hoping to charge.[/QUOTE]Did you ever end up with FC. We met and she didn't exchanged number yet.
[QUOTE=RobHere;3880733]Did you ever end up with FC. We met and she didn't exchanged number yet.[/QUOTE]This is why I haven't paid seeking arrangements website yet because I'm afraid that a lot of girls ask for money to meet for a dinner date with no intentions of having sex they just do this probably to hundreds of guys and make a lot of money I'm not saying all the girls do this but you get the point.
My first attempt to talk to a chick on there. Dingbat wants $500 to meet every time "until we both know we're a good fit" then monthly 800 minimum. For which she'll see you 3 times during said month. For 800 that is, maybe if you go 1 k she'll see you 4. She's really hot (if the pics are real of course) but 500 is madness to me.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/71fb341b-2e9c-4ef8-b269-a25fc33ff332[/URL]
[QUOTE=GoBluth;3881666]My first attempt to talk to a chick on there. Dingbat wants $500 to meet every time "until we both know we're a good fit" then monthly 800 minimum. For which she'll see you 3 times during said month. For 800 that is, maybe if you go 1 k she'll see you 4. She's really hot (if the pics are real of course) but 500 is madness to me.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/71fb341b-2e9c-4ef8-b269-a25fc33ff332[/URL][/QUOTE]800/3 = 266 so offer less and settle on something in that range. If you do end up with 800 per Month and she will meet 3 legit Times that's not terrible. You can find lower cost options though. I would just stay friendly make your offer and if she balks then say too bad this isn't going to work out because I really like you. She may come back to you later after she strikes out!
This one is a total headcase. Wants a monthly allowance established before we even met. Then when I said no let's discuss PPM. She then says she is not a prostitute. Ignored her and then she says she will meet for $500. Okay so you don't want to be treated like a prostitute but you'll take $500 per date (like a prostitute). As if the amount per meet makes you any different. I wrote a long response outlining the hypocrisy of her stance and she basically said all men are assholes. She's pushy, insulting, etc. I'd say run away from her.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/061f5c38-175b-4b22-9a5c-a6f9f73e1969[/URL]
Had another profile "Exotic Lover101". But got banned or suspended.
[QUOTE=BRyan72;3884025]This one is a total headcase. Wants a monthly allowance established before we even met. Then when I said no let's discuss PPM. She then says she is not a prostitute. Ignored her and then she says she will meet for $500. Okay so you don't want to be treated like a prostitute but you'll take $500 per date (like a prostitute). As if the amount per meet makes you any different. I wrote a long response outlining the hypocrisy of her stance and she basically said all men are assholes. She's pushy, insulting, etc. I'd say run away from her.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/061f5c38-175b-4b22-9a5c-a6f9f73e1969[/URL]
Had another profile "Exotic Lover101". But got banned or suspended.[/QUOTE]"I tell them the old joke about the man who asks a girl if she will sleep with him for a million dollars. Of course, she says yes. He then offers her two dollars and she slaps his face, saying, 'What do you think I am?' He answers, 'I know what you are. We are just haggling over the price. '.
[URL]https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/03/07/haggling/[/URL]
Good report from NH. Ladies are mostly just over the nh / ma border.
[QUOTE=Ebloke;3883876]I've had some good luck on SA. Here are a few worth checking out if you are on the site. I didn't have to take any of them out to lunch or dinner first. Treat them well and with respect and you will be well rewarded.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/599d05db-1fdd-4ebf-b922-5b9adf9a1e56[/URL]
This girl has a good head game, BBBJCIM. I've met her a few times at her apartment. More is on the menu, but I have not explored that. $.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/46083804-77bf-4f22-b808-0da9603cec13[/URL]
I met her at her apartment. Very friendly girl, likes to please. BBBJ and FS available. She wants more of a relationship than an arrangement. Depending on the time you want to put in, no cost to $$.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bf306028-5f5d-48bc-aecf-a1ca29d72f72[/URL]
Cute girl, met her once for a car date. It was shark week, so only got BBBJCIMSW. Very good head game, more is on the menu. $.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/968d0243-f268-477b-93a8-93bcd698c4ae[/URL]
Met her a couple of times. She is into some kinky things. Has an open relationship with her partner and he likes to get pictures while she doing her thing. Everything on the menu. $$.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f89f6d8d-31de-49f3-bca3-15d5576937ab[/URL]
Met this girl at a hotel, she drives for Uber and has a flexible schedule. BBBJ and CFS $$.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4072a439-c8d9-42e6-b66c-f568785789a7[/URL]
This woman has amazing long legs. She can't host but is very sensual, used to be a stripper. BBBJ and CFS is all I've tried. $$.
I don't have any additional contact information for these woman.
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Hey gents, anyone have experience with Kelly / Bella out of Malden?
She has agreed to BBFSCIP and BBFSCIA. Just wanted to get any info someone has that has visited her.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bd747b47-75f1-405b-94d2-cbbae047f732[/URL]
Thanks. Medford Guy.
[QUOTE=MedfordGuy;3886623]Hey gents, anyone have experience with Kelly / Bella out of Malden?
She has agreed to BBFSCIP and BBFSCIA. Just wanted to get any info someone has that has visited her.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bd747b47-75f1-405b-94d2-cbbae047f732[/URL]
Thanks. Medford Guy.[/QUOTE]She is nice fun to be with. You won't go wrong.
Any intel on this one? Out of Providence. Seems super desperate for cash.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/81dfd852-1c81-469c-bae6-fa8c8ff85b3a[/URL]