Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

[QUOTE=CedarRock;4703332]Wait, biker trying to take the high road and complaining about being not politically correct. I am married to a handicapped person, while not mentally challenged, she is physically. Just to lay the groundwork for my response.

We are on a monger review site. I think being politically correct isn't really necessary. And seems that Biker not being PC is kind of what started all this right? Calling women names and just being cruel to providers he didn't even see. Kind of too late to take the high road IMHO. Well and being pissed Benz gets to know women, treats them with respect, and gets a lot free, which some may find that happens when you treat a woman with respect. Most providers with track marks appreciate respect and being treated like a real person, and not just some hole you think you are entitled to stick your dick in for $.

I really was staying out of this, but I guess I'll join the ass sniffers. WTF is that anyway, like I know an ass kisser, but a sniffer? There's no benefit to that, like the whole idea of an ass kisser is that you are being complimentary to another person, kissing their ass, hoping for personal gain or favor. But an ass sniffer? That's just someone who likes the smell of ass, it really has no connotation of aiding or benefiting either party. Used in this context, I believe Biker was trying to say we are ass kissers, in that we hope that Benz will like us if we defend him. Still not an ass sniffer.

I mean I even checked google to see if there was some meaning I wasn't privy to, and pretty much got exactly what I said, an ass sniffer is an insult, saying someone likes the smell of ass, most of the time their own, or just someone in someone else's business, which, isn't being used correctly for that meaning either. Anyway, reminds me of Ricky in Trailer Park Boys with his malapropisms. "These slips of the tongue are often the result of Ricky's lack of education, and extensive use of drugs and alcohol, and situations where he may not be thinking clearly. ".

Anyway, the whole ass sniffer thing just never made any sense.

In reality, Biker is just going to keep doing this until we stop responding to him. When you ignore they go away, we need smarter , ones that can at least keep up and say things correctly and can debate a bit, not just say "I'm rubber and your glue" like this is doing.[/QUOTE]Umm I did not start this by calling the girls names or their services see it show your ignorance as to why you even posted about look dude, you want to join the ass sniffer team go for it but get facts accurate first d'bag.

[QUOTE=DjBiker;4704109]Umm I did not start this by calling the girls names or their services see it show your ignorance as to why you even posted about look dude, you want to join the ass sniffer team go for it but get facts accurate first d'bag.[/QUOTE]I'll have to comment here because this did start with DjBiker being rude and often redacted. That is why I took DjBiker off my list of people I share information with.

On more than one occasion he has asked for passwords and I gave them to him. He became an angry asshole on this board calling names and getting redactions.

After I saw all that hate which is likely built up inside from childhood abuse. I felt sorry for him but I would not give him a password to see a utr named Jamin Jamie.

Why would anyone hook up an angry asshole with a utr?

He mentioned sobriety, LOL. I know a lot about sobriety. I'm confused how anyone can maintain any sobriety with all that anger and resentment for one person who refused to give him information on an under the radar hooker. This started with his anger toward people, this has been stewing for a long time, he was obviously looking for an outlet and found it.

I'm guessing no member on this site will give information about any girl to DjBiker, they have now seen him for who he really is. Angry Asshole.

Asshole of the year / Decade.
DjBiker;
Go find your own hookers and don't ask us to help you.

[QUOTE=Benz1;4704456]I'll have to comment here because this did start with DjBiker being rude and often redacted. That is why I took DjBiker off my list of people I share information with.

On more than one occasion he has asked for passwords and I gave them to him. He became an angry asshole on this board calling names and getting redactions.

After I saw all that hate which is likely built up inside from childhood abuse. I felt sorry for him but I would not give him a password to see a utr named Jamin Jamie.

Why would anyone hook up an angry asshole with a utr?

He mentioned sobriety, LOL. I know a lot about sobriety. I'm confused how anyone can maintain any sobriety with all that anger and resentment for one person who refused to give him information on an under the radar hooker. This started with his anger toward people, this has been stewing for a long time, he was obviously looking for an outlet and found it.

I'm guessing no member on this site will give information about any girl to DjBiker, they have now seen him for who he really is. Angry Asshole.

Asshole of the year / Decade.
DjBiker;
Go find your own hookers and don't ask us to help you.[/QUOTE]Yes your rite I did get passwords from you, then I found out what a dick bag douche user you are of these females when I called your loser ass out on it your 5-6 ass sniffers attacked cause they think your using is cool you don't know shit about me but your such an asshole that you need to hang in Palouse like a dumb ass reg at a strip club pathetic is more like it so f' you.

I'm done with you it's to easy to insult an asshole like you.

[QUOTE=DjBiker;4703929]LOL I'm with private on this one...[/QUOTE]Actually, no you're not. I was poking mild fun at a pointless rant while also saying I prefer that type of rant over your whining about Benz1. Obviously it's personal. Otherwise you would have directed your hate at me when I shared a password with YOU for a UTR I was helping. So let's not pretend you have a moral objection to a password system. It's only when it's not shared with you.

[QUOTE=Benz1;4704456]
I'm guessing no member on this site will give information about any girl to DjBiker, they have now seen him for who he really is. Angry Asshole.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Not from me in the future.

I've grown tired of this. It would be a nice feature if this board allowed us to filter out certain member posts. Everyone would enjoy that feature.

[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4704801]Actually, no you're not. I was poking mild fun at a pointless rant while also saying I prefer that type of rant over your whining about Benz1. Obviously it's personal. Otherwise you would have directed your hate at me when I shared a password with YOU for a UTR I was helping. So let's not pretend you have a moral objection to a password system. It's only when it's not shared with you.

Agreed. Not from me in the future.

I've grown tired of this. It would be a nice feature if this board allowed us to filter out certain member posts. Everyone would enjoy that feature.[/QUOTE]We can eliminate seeing postings from any member we want. Click Notifications, scroll down to Edit Ignore List then ad the member name, they won't be able to PM you and you won't see their post on this site. You will still see their name on a post but can't see what they wrote.

Or click on the Members name, then click view profile, then click ad to ignore list. If you've clicked on my name, be sure to vote for me as Number 1 Ass Sniffer! Thanks!
NJ

I think it is white-knighting, but to be fair not merely strictly to Jordan, but to key ones you dig. Her being one of them. You were criticized for not just personally being OK with the procedure, but advocating that it's generally not a bad thing for anyone and that the risk is minimal with established gals. If you were like a typical guy who goes Bare Back, and says "Hey, this is what I do, it's not for the best, but fvck it," then I wouldn't be critical of the POV. At least with going BB, you get an added experience in exchange -- as opposed to just being able to See the gal, as if it's expected.

The real criticism is instead on someone like Jordan *expecting* it, as if it's like having a reference. It's not. It's a different concept, hence the criticism of she expecting it as such + some guys rolling with it as if there's little issue about it. Of course IF I had to, yes, I would obviously be choosing to do so with Jordan or some established, older woman who's been in the industry who's reliable and not seemingly caught up with riff-raff, in comparison to other gals.

You do have the freedom to choose. You have the freedom to do bareback with a new gal, on video that she's going to post on PornHub. And so do I (smile). Nobody's questioning that. It's about what one claims is not a big deal, when dealing with established reliable ones in the industry, when, yeah, it is a big deal. Even among those who are living in a middle-class neighborhood and seemingly far away from the type to be tweaked and whatnot. Plus, although Jordan is established & seemingly reliable, she doesn't have the appealing look in the market to make mongers as a whole consider something unwise like that. The best thing for a monger to do, which is a pretty much agreed upon rule all around -- is not to show personal information to them.

And no, I understand saying someone has "fat ass" is Many Times derogatory, or at least explicitly not in a positive way but in a neutral I-guess-if-you-like-that sorta way. Depends on the context. "She's got a fat ass" vs "Her ass is fat" has the same meaning. "She's snooty, looks nothing like her pictures, and sheesh, she's got a fat ass," is obviously in a Negative way VS "She's thick, just how I like them, and she's got a fat ass that sticks out. So if you're into that, you'll enjoy her. ".

That said, yes, it was meant in a negative way, because it's a critique on her looks VS her expectations demanded. The imbalance. Much like saying they're too old, if their expectations are far out there.

Just trying to clarify and get my POV and where I'm cumming from, across. You believe giving out your I'd to established, reliable gals from what you've read & heard about is overall an OK thing to do. I strongly disagree and so do many others. I'll always say "No, don't do it," and you'll say "Yes, for some (explained), it can be OK. " We'll agree to disagree. It's all good.

[QUOTE=GMacMan;4698067]This will be called more white knighting, I'm sure, but Charlie, I did not criticize him for giving a "whoa no". Instead, I was being criticized for being ok with the procedure. There are girls that ask, but I would not give out that info to the kinds of girls that move around a lot, work out of low to mid range hotels (forget Red Roof, Amway Grand, please) or who run frequent discount rates and post 80 times a day on STG. In other words, the kinds of girls that the criticizer sees. However, for the higher end girls or the reliables that work out of their own home in a nice neighborhood, I don't begrudge them wanting to verify and upon meeting, I should have the freedome to choose. I was simply offering that this girl is safe and trustworthy and I get reamed out on here for that. As far as expect it, there are only two that post on STG that do, and they don't post frequently. For the most part, if I were to see someone from STG, I would NOT give out my I'd. Also, I wouldn't take my own car to the location either. You think "managers" don't write down your license plate number while you're inside?? The provider in question is a rare breed that will post occasionally on STG to give new guys a chance that would not normally shop on P411, Eros Guide or any of the other sites where the better quality girls do their business. She's a low cost access point for a reference to the high-end providers and a safe reliable bet in a pinch.

Nobody that has been through her screening has complained yet that they feel their info is at high risk. The main complaints are that you can find better service without all the hassle. That is true, you can, but you also encounter different risks as well, which have been well documented on here. Cash and dashers, robberies, make an apppointment, drive to the place, then crickets, drug use, and so on. Nobody on here that has seen this particular provider has said anything about having any of those issues. Me, if I want a reliable appointment that is going to be kept and will be satisfying for what I am looking for at the time, then a higher end provider that does I'd verification is the way to go. If you want it to be a game, even with your go-to cheap girl, then that is fine, too, your choice and I won't criticize. Debating this on here is like trying to debate a $150 bottle of wine with someone who has never had anything but Bud or Bud Light. They just won't get it.

I put out my clarifications so that the new guys on here will have an understanding of the risks involved with each type of an encounter. Out west, this is standard practice for the best providers to verify identity. Because that was my starting point, I have less qualms and a better understanding of the risks involved than if I'd started out here. However, unlike out there, here there is no forum dedicated to providers giving feedback on their customers from this board, so that you don't have to keep handing out your I'd over and over. I did it once out here, and have not had to since, I have my reference to all other premium providers that I want now. I don't need a "password" or any of that nonsense spouted on this board. However, it is becomming very clear that this is no longer a site to share experiences but instead is a board dominated by one primary voice. Anyone that has a point of view that contradicts that voice is subject to criticism and marginalization, which doesn't make for a useful board.

Also, the difference between saying someone has an ass that is fat and a fatass should be self evident and if not, a quick look up on Urban Dictonary will clear up any misconceptions about which one is descriptive vs. Derogatory. He meant it to be derogatory, I don't know why he felt he had to cover it up by a lame, "Well she is fat, so duh, her ass is fat" excuse.

Good luck out there![/QUOTE]

[URL]https://twitter.com/TheCaraMarlo/status/1236502765028982784[/URL]

[QUOTE=Benz1;4704863]We can eliminate seeing postings from any member we want. Click Notifications, scroll down to Edit Ignore List then ad the member name, they won't be able to PM you and you won't see their post on this site. You will still see their name on a post but can't see what they wrote.[/QUOTE]Crazy idea, but you could just keep scrolling by if you see a name you don't like?

[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4703464]I loved the fact you dedicated so much time exploring what "ass sniffer" means. You googled it, LOL. Priceless.

I say more pointless rants and less DJBiker whining![/QUOTE]Some of you know how to edit down the page long quotes Thank you!

[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/lets-make-these-girls-clean-th/646908825433[/URL]

Like the idea of getting bad apple providers out of the business but puzzled why the knock on USASG. Must be someone A2 pissed off.

"Mongers it is time to up your standards. It's not time to do the deal it's time to teach these women how to do their job. If they want to do this job they need to learn to up their standards. Instead of looking for the deal look for the quality provider who will keep you safe.

Also keep in mind that USA sex guide makes money every time you hit their site. The right now they're getting a little pissed off and Monger aren't hitting their sites and if girls raised their standards A2 will have to raise his".

[QUOTE=TokyoDawson;4725192][URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/lets-make-these-girls-clean-th/646908825433[/URL]

Like the idea of getting bad apple providers out of the business but puzzled why the knock on USASG. Must be someone A2 pissed off.

"Mongers it is time to up your standards. It's not time to do the deal it's time to teach these women how to do their job. If they want to do this job they need to learn to up their standards. Instead of looking for the deal look for the quality provider who will keep you safe.

Also keep in mind that USA sex guide makes money every time you hit their site. The right now they're getting a little pissed off and Monger aren't hitting their sites and if girls raised their standards A2 will have to raise his".[/QUOTE]It's the same nut job provider that was posting ads on STG about low balling girls. Same 517 area code that was on the low balling ads. Instead of telling girls not to take low offers she's pretending to be a guy and telling us to only see quality providers. Quality girls on STG are a hard find.

[URL]http://skipthegames.com/img/002/TMTQyMTUyYzQwZmY4NjE1YTZlYzQ1NzZjODllMzZmYjAyM2Y1NzM.jpg[/URL]

Not sure how he figures A2 is getting rich at our expense. Doesn't cost me a penny to click on his site. Of course he gets paid per click, that's how advertising works. I'll happily keep clicking away here until I have to buy a subscription. Dude needs a new hobby.

The dude who posted it also made his phone number available to be spammed. A lansing area code if you were wondering. Time for him/her to ditch that burner phone.

** I couldn’t verify if it was the same number as the other poster Rome was referring to. It looks different to me but the other posts are gone. It might be.

[QUOTE=TokyoDawson;4725192][URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/lets-make-these-girls-clean-th/646908825433[/URL]
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Whoever is posting this reads this forum frequently and possibly a member. Not sure why they don't voice it here. I don't disagree with the basic message, except for whatever the last point is against USA. That's a little off.

But I did get a chuckle that the latest post seemed to be directed at me, LOL. But if he read anything I've posted he'd recognize I don't support the bad providers.

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/img/007/ODM1NjViMTkxNzRiYThjMmQ3YzA4ODhhOTk3NjBiMzZiYjY1ZQ.jpg[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChastD1959;4725293][URL]http://skipthegames.com/img/002/TMTQyMTUyYzQwZmY4NjE1YTZlYzQ1NzZjODllMzZmYjAyM2Y1NzM.jpg[/URL]

Not sure how he figures A2 is getting rich at our expense. Doesn't cost me a penny to click on his site. Of course he gets paid per click, that's how advertising works. I'll happily keep clicking away here until I have to buy a subscription. Dude needs a new hobby.[/QUOTE]And if he had any clue how much it costs to run a site like this, he would realize that all of the advertising he is using probably pays a little more than it costs. And what is the alternative? To not have this service.

Getting rich? I doubt, making some money on it, sure, to provide a service that we obviously desire to have, or we wouldn't be here.

[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4725599]Whoever is posting this reads this forum frequently and possibly a member. Not sure why they don't voice it here. I don't disagree with the basic message, except for whatever the last point is against USA. That's a little off.

But I did get a chuckle that the latest post seemed to be directed at me, LOL. But if he read anything I've posted he'd recognize I don't support the bad providers.

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/img/007/ODM1NjViMTkxNzRiYThjMmQ3YzA4ODhhOTk3NjBiMzZiYjY1ZQ.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]The same thing the low ball ad runner would do. They would post their ad on STG and then come on here to see if anyone would post anything about it. Same writing style and the last paragraph on the low ball ad was about A2 also. I can't believe anyone would waste that kind of time making ads and then update them to include new information like your comment about a burner phone. Probably shouldn't give them any more attention on here.

[QUOTE=ChastD1959;4725293][URL]http://skipthegames.com/img/002/TMTQyMTUyYzQwZmY4NjE1YTZlYzQ1NzZjODllMzZmYjAyM2Y1NzM.jpg[/URL]

Not sure how he figures A2 is getting rich at our expense. Doesn't cost me a penny to click on his site. Of course he gets paid per click, that's how advertising works. I'll happily keep clicking away here until I have to buy a subscription. Dude needs a new hobby.[/QUOTE]This link is me swimming last summer [URL]https://images.app.goo.gl/5Rb19Y5kPx7Cp8DHA[/URL].

And this is my ski vacation [URL] https://images.app.goo.gl/NWbyMTJibNzroA6k8[/URL].

We are fucking rolling in the money.

Though soonish there will be subscriptions offered and donations taken (You know you want a personalized avitar).

I guess I'm stupid but who's expense is this airhead talking about? Mongers access and use this site for free. If the owners make money off us clicking in why the fuck would I care? And if the poster is a provider posting on stg its no expense to her either. Makes zero sense.

[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4725599]Whoever is posting this reads this forum frequently and possibly a member. Not sure why they don't voice it here. I don't disagree with the basic message, except for whatever the last point is against USA. That's a little off.

But I did get a chuckle that the latest post seemed to be directed at me, LOL. But if he read anything I've posted he'd recognize I don't support the bad providers.

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/img/007/ODM1NjViMTkxNzRiYThjMmQ3YzA4ODhhOTk3NjBiMzZiYjY1ZQ.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]

What happened to people's work ethic these days? Now the scammers are even half-assing it. Check out this fake:

[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/chocolate-barbiethe-perfect-ch/771734847117[/URL]

Picture taken in a house that looks nothing like a midwest home.

Phone number is 609 area code.

Advertises as blonde but shows pic of brunette.

"Chocolate Barbie" name but pic of white girl.

Tattoos listed as discreet yet plainly seen on arm.

Weight in kg, not lbs (to hell with your far superior metric system, we be in Ah-Merica).

If any monger falls for this crap you deserve to have your bank account liquidated.

[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4727967]What happened to people's work ethic these days? Now the scammers are even half-assing it. Check out this fake:

[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/chocolate-barbiethe-perfect-ch/771734847117[/URL]

Picture taken in a house that looks nothing like a midwest home.

Phone number is 609 area code.

Advertises as blonde but shows pic of brunette.

"Chocolate Barbie" name but pic of white girl.


Tattoos listed as discreet yet plainly seen on arm.

Weight in kg, not lbs (to hell with your far superior metric system, we be in Ah-Merica).

If any monger falls for this crap you deserve to have your bank account liquidated.[/QUOTE]STG has become more scam and spam than Backpage was at its peak.

The nut job reveals herself. The person behind the low ball ads. The person behind the up your standards ads. The person behind the police are investigating STG ads. She ran an ad earlier this week asking for guys to paypal her money for future service. She said she would double the amount of time you paid for when the pandemic is over. She stated in the ad that she can't work during the pandemic because she has a lung condition. She can't work and this is what she is doing with all her free time? What a nut job.

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/you-mongers-and-girls-are-putt/222331506690[/URL]

You stated you called the provider and she says he tried to tie her up. You also stated "if anything he got robbed because he didn't get his way with her forcibly. ".
I took that to mean she kept his donation. If that's not what you meant, ok. But it sounds to me like she told you why she left with his money.
Mongers lie. I agree. But providers also lie, and often.
Even well known ones. I used to see a girl called Destiny. Saw her 1-2 x a week. We were almost friends. I got discounts and extra time etc. Saw her for over a year. Yet still for no reason she lied to me over something and I foolishly believed her.
These girls do lie and they do take money for no service.
Now the monger shouldn't have prepaid of course. But that doesn't make keeping his money ok.

Since crackwhores have a lot of time in their hands this one Alix has been roaming all forums apparently. Funny how the one who claims crackwhores should have savings is also begging for prepaid services, like you can trust any crackwhore.

[QUOTE=Rome123;4731973]The nut job reveals herself. The person behind the low ball ads. The person behind the up your standards ads. The person behind the police are investigating STG ads. She ran an ad earlier this week asking for guys to paypal her money for future service. She said she would double the amount of time you paid for when the pandemic is over. She stated in the ad that she can't work during the pandemic because she has a lung condition. She can't work and this is what she is doing with all her free time? What a nut job.

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/you-mongers-and-girls-are-putt/222331506690[/URL][/QUOTE]

Ever since her crackwhore daughter OD she's on a mission to piss everybody here.

[QUOTE=Rome123;4725247]It's the same nut job provider that was posting ads on STG about low balling girls. Same 517 area code that was on the low balling ads. Instead of telling girls not to take low offers she's pretending to be a guy and telling us to only see quality providers. Quality girls on STG are a hard find.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mitico7327;4734129]Ever since her crackwhore daughter OD she's on a mission to piss everybody here.[/QUOTE]She is very well reviewed in Jackson. And seeing ladys during the Virus May not be the best thing to do. I'm sorry to hear her daughter passed.

[QUOTE=OrallVrForU;4734317]She is very well reviewed in Jackson. And seeing ladys during the Virus May not be the best thing to do. I'm sorry to hear her daughter passed.[/QUOTE]Alix has been well reviewed here in Grand Rapids too.

Opioid addiction is a nasty disease.

I'm sorry to hear about her daughter and all the others struggling to rise above any addiction.

Stay safe and sane out there.

[QUOTE=Benz1;4734964]Alix has been well reviewed here in Grand Rapids too.

Opioid addiction is a nasty disease.

I'm sorry to hear about her daughter and all the others struggling to rise above any addiction.

Stay safe and sane out there.[/QUOTE]Well reviewed or not she has gone off the deep end. The ads she ran on STG could only come from a deranged individual.

As long as the monger has a few reviews under his belt I am usually inclined to believe him over a provider who has never been reviewed. But he didn't do himself any favors by providing zero details of the alleged robbery. Hopefully he will see our requests for details and give us his side of the story. And Amber isn't doing herself any favors by using what appear to be fake pictures. If someone has seen this Amber please speak up(her Ad is attached).

[QUOTE=Monger01;4734109]You stated you called the provider and she says he tried to tie her up. You also stated "if anything he got robbed because he didn't get his way with her forcibly. ".
I took that to mean she kept his donation. If that's not what you meant, ok. But it sounds to me like she told you why she left with his money.
Mongers lie. I agree. But providers also lie, and often.
Even well known ones. I used to see a girl called Destiny. Saw her 1-2 x a week. We were almost friends. I got discounts and extra time etc. Saw her for over a year. Yet still for no reason she lied to me over something and I foolishly believed her.
These girls do lie and they do take money for no service.
Now the monger shouldn't have prepaid of course. But that doesn't make keeping his money ok.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Toes63;4733632]How do you know if she kept his money? Do you know for sure he paid up front like everyone on here says to keep your money in your pocket until the services have been rendered. You their are a lot of false claims about providers especially if the Monger doesn't get his way. Has their been any reports about this provider out there? Everything sounds fishy about the so called robbery.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger01;4733553]So she kept his money? Hmmm. What a convenient story and "reason" to keep his money. In my biz if I decline a customer job I don't also keep their money. Sounds fishy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Toes63;4733333]I talked to Amber and she told me he tried force her to be tied up and she was not having any of that. He was totally disrespectful so she left. Nobody got robbed if anything he got robbed because he didn't get his way with her forcibly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RedShirt2814;4731684][URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/amber-is-ready-to-play/648521613069[/URL]

Robbed me and took my money. Oh well, no one got hurt.[/QUOTE]

I have noticed an increasing amount of posters whiteknighting or at least zealously defending hookers lately here. I also notice most have about 30 posts. I seldom see a long timer doing it.
Going to the extent of calling a hooker to get her side of a robbery story? Are you her pimp? Her brother? Her best buddy? Why are some of you so overly invested in the reputations of these girls?
Sharing your personal experience noting it was different than another poster, sure. That's what this board is for.
Reviews, both good and bad are the best method of evaluating talent.

Some of you guys are acting like the girl's agent!

[QUOTE=Wolverines;4736697]As long as the monger has a few reviews under his belt I am usually inclined to believe him over a provider who has never been reviewed. But he didn't do himself any favors by providing zero details of the alleged robbery. Hopefully he will see our requests for details and give us his side of the story. And Amber isn't doing herself any favors by using what appear to be fake pictures. If someone has seen this Amber please speak up(her Ad is attached).[/QUOTE]Wolverine,

Nobody is going to speak up about their experince with her unless it is negative because Monger01 is already calling out postive posts as "White Knighting" over this. With crap that that, his negative view of providers will continue. It's a shame, really, because Wolvie, you put a lot into this board to help others, especially with trying to get a straight story and with pulling together groups of reviews, and finally, going out and getting pictures to post here.

Unfortunately, a little boy that got his heart broken over a provider feels compelled to call out any positive reviews after a single negative review as "white knighting". I feel sorry for him and hope that his little broken heart can be healed, but he just keeps diving back into the pond for cheaper and cheaper service, which only reinforces his negative views since he's bottom feeding. Hehe. I'm going to call him Catfish from now on. Unfortunately, he interferes with actual information being passed on here and is quickly making this board irrellevant, I'm gone a month and it's stil the same petty stuff.

A "positive post" and "whiteknighting" are not the same thing. I'm not heartbroken. Just gave an example. Are you really that dense that you can't see the difference between a positive review post and whiteknighting?

You don't see that acting like a girl's agent is different than posting a review? This attitude reminds me of all those now defunct forums run by the old school providers. All convo was provider-centic and full of drama about what girl said what about what monger etc. Scorps comes to mind.

[QUOTE=GMacMan;4739335]Wolverine,

Nobody is going to speak up about their experince with her unless it is negative because Monger01 is already calling out postive posts as "White Knighting" over this. With crap that that, his negative view of providers will continue. It's a shame, really, because Wolvie, you put a lot into this board to help others, especially with trying to get a straight story and with pulling together groups of reviews, and finally, going out and getting pictures to post here.

Unfortunately, a little boy that got his heart broken over a provider feels compelled to call out any positive reviews after a single negative review as "white knighting". I feel sorry for him and hope that his little broken heart can be healed, but he just keeps diving back into the pond for cheaper and cheaper service, which only reinforces his negative views since he's bottom feeding. Hehe. I'm going to call him Catfish from now on. Unfortunately, he interferes with actual information being passed on here and is quickly making this board irrellevant, I'm gone a month and it's stil the same petty stuff.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger01;4737236]I have noticed an increasing amount of posters whiteknighting or at least zealously defending hookers lately here. I also notice most have about 30 posts. I seldom see a long timer doing it.
Going to the extent of calling a hooker to get her side of a robbery story? Are you her pimp? Her brother? Her best buddy? Why are some of you so overly invested in the reputations of these girls?
Sharing your personal experience noting it was different than another poster, sure. That's what this board is for.
Reviews, both good and bad are the best method of evaluating talent.

Some of you guys are acting like the girl's agent![/QUOTE]GMac,

No where in here does Monger01 call a positive post as white knighting. I have positive posts and negative posts. Does that mean I am white knighting the girls who I gave a good post to? Please, explain why you believe Monger01 is calling a good review white knighting and where do you see that in his post. I am intrigued to hear your explanation for it.

[QUOTE=Arish;4739794]GMac,

No where in here does Monger01 call a positive post as white knighting. I have positive posts and negative posts. Does that mean I am white knighting the girls who I gave a good post to? Please, explain why you believe Monger01 is calling a good review white knighting and where do you see that in his post. I am intrigued to hear your explanation for it.[/QUOTE]I agree and have supported a number of my regulars with positive reviews to help them grow their business but at no time were the reviews false or misleading. I thought that's what the board was about sharing experiences good or bad and helping fellow mongers from being ripped off.

Didn't this discussion start when a poster said he was robbed? And by a provider with no history of that, and she is all of 105 lbs? And the poster ghosted us on any details?

Sure the mongers are always right. Until they're not. Robbing is a serious charge. Shouldn't the poster be willing to provide details to warn all of us?

Granted it is odd that another poster goes so far as to contact the provider to get her side of the story. But given the serious charge of robbery, it's not that far afield. Especially if he is a regular of this provider.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see the charge of robbery being valid or worthy of any of us defending him until he provides some solid details.

Thanks for letting a non-senior impart a viewpoint here.

An example of White Knighting is when there's something clearly out in left field wanted / desired / expected by a provider -- and backing up the provider on that as something that a monger shouldn't see as negative, and is a-ok for her to do. Not just a positive review of the experience within the session.

EXAMPLE (not to be expected):

BOB: Suzie always wants me to pick her up some cigs and either beer or take-out every time. I've seen her 4 times over the past 3 months, and you'd think she wouldn't be watching the clock so much or delay the appt 15-20 minutes multiple times, last minute. Give me something in return, right? Haven't seen it. So this last time I said I'll gladly do it again, but said for a Full hour for my half hour, and she got ticked and blew me off. WTH? She Expects this??

JIM: I'm not saying you should be happy with it, but she's a great girl. Grabbing her stuff like that is expected as she only charges 80 hhr. That 'take-out' is only going to be McDs or BK, and the beer's just a six-pack of Natty Light, man. It's something a guy shouldn't have an issue with, but if he doesn't want to roll that route, that's fine. No reason to 'dis her for it. She's hot, and it's a great experience, BTW.

JON: That sucks Bob. I did pick up some cigs once when I told her I was next to the gas station to get her address, my 1st time with her. Great experience, she was cool with me, and the 2nd time was pretty sweet, too. Stay safe!

The latter two are positives, one's white-knighting, the other isn't.

In this case, Jim's white-knighting, Jon is not. Both have a "positive review" of her.

[QUOTE=GMacMan;4739335]Wolverine,

Nobody is going to speak up about their experince with her unless it is negative because Monger01 is already calling out postive posts as "White Knighting" over this. With crap that that, his negative view of providers will continue. It's a shame, really, because Wolvie, you put a lot into this board to help others, especially with trying to get a straight story and with pulling together groups of reviews, and finally, going out and getting pictures to post here.

Unfortunately, a little boy that got his heart broken over a provider feels compelled to call out any positive reviews after a single negative review as "white knighting". I feel sorry for him and hope that his little broken heart can be healed, but he just keeps diving back into the pond for cheaper and cheaper service, which only reinforces his negative views since he's bottom feeding. Hehe. I'm going to call him Catfish from now on. Unfortunately, he interferes with actual information being passed on here and is quickly making this board irrellevant, I'm gone a month and it's stil the same petty stuff.[/QUOTE]

Well put Charlie.

[QUOTE=Charlie441;4740047]An example of White Knighting is when there's something clearly out in left field wanted / desired / expected by a provider -- and backing up the provider on that as something that a monger shouldn't see as negative, and is a-ok for her to do. Not just a positive review of the experience within the session.

EXAMPLE (not to be expected):

BOB: Suzie always wants me to pick her up some cigs and either beer or take-out every time. I've seen her 4 times over the past 3 months, and you'd think she wouldn't be watching the clock so much or delay the appt 15-20 minutes multiple times, last minute. Give me something in return, right? Haven't seen it. So this last time I said I'll gladly do it again, but said for a Full hour for my half hour, and she got ticked and blew me off. WTH? She Expects this??

JIM: I'm not saying you should be happy with it, but she's a great girl. Grabbing her stuff like that is expected as she only charges 80 hhr. That 'take-out' is only going to be McDs or BK, and the beer's just a six-pack of Natty Light, man. It's something a guy shouldn't have an issue with, but if he doesn't want to roll that route, that's fine. No reason to 'dis her for it. She's hot, and it's a great experience, BTW.

JON: That sucks Bob. I did pick up some cigs once when I told her I was next to the gas station to get her address, my 1st time with her. Great experience, she was cool with me, and the 2nd time was pretty sweet, too. Stay safe!

The latter two are positives, one's white-knighting, the other isn't.

In this case, Jim's white-knighting, Jon is not. Both have a "positive review" of her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TeddBear;3620990]This is what I meant that it is a review of providers ability and looks together not just looks my point was Jenn is a good provider as reviewed by many yes she has body flaws but it's not fair to poorly review her by looks alone is shallow and not very accurate bobby Joe77 head Bobby doesn't realize this and wants to call me an ass hole well fuck him keep whining instead of fucking and reporting about fucking instead of getting fucked.[/QUOTE]This white knight posted that Jen gave a great head game. He never informed anyone that she has major baby damage. When Jen received a terrible review based on her baby damage Tedbear got on his big white horse.

This is a great Example of white knight.

[QUOTE=TeddBear;3620471]I should have put my opinion on this board if Bobbyjoe77 wants to buttfuck Rome123 for being shallow then so be it I don't usually get in to arguments I just state my opinion weather it be right or wrong they can't eat a dick it's still my opinion.[/QUOTE] The Tedbear nice guy reputation kinda ended here.

I had made a strong suggestion about a standard check the box review form that would bring more clarity to every review. The checklist is long.
Does anyone want me to post it again? Takes the whole page. I could put it in General reports so it doesn't interrupt all the fighting here.

[QUOTE=Benz1;4741320]I had made a strong suggestion about a standard check the box review form that would bring more clarity to every review. The checklist is long.
Does anyone want me to post it again? Takes the whole page. I could put it in General reports so it doesn't interrupt all the fighting here.[/QUOTE]I scammed it for the member guide:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide&p=4532651&viewfull=1[/URL]#post4532651.

But I'm kind of bored so I enjoy the fighting.