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A good friend of mine once told me "A man cannot consider himself a complete man until he's been made a fool of by a woman at least once. ".
You can guess for yourself why he may have told me that.
Time heals everything FF, every motherfucking thing hoss.
A2.
[QUOTE=SwizzleStick;2767373]I feel for ya, Freckles. Unfortunately, you can't save them if they don't want to be saved. There used to be a body rub girl who went by Anna a few years ago who was only in the game a few months but I made really good friends with her and I had a situation very similar to yours. I didn't let her scam me out of more than about 300 bucks before I cut her off though, and I made sure I got pussy every single fucking time no matter what.[/QUOTE]Hate to hear you brothers go through drama like this. At some point we have all been there. Hell I almost fell for Star, Ursula or whoever she goes by. I got to admit she good at playing the game and getting into character. I really hopes she gets her shit together. Hats off to FF to post, it takes some balls to take a stance like that, especially one that was highly regarded.
Be safe,
Mamba out.
I think what you were trying to do was very noble, annnnd if you had demanded sex in return then you wouldn't have been giving her a Safe Place. Well unless the Safe Place has changed it's policy anyway LOL. I'll tell you what it reminds me of, Waffle House! A number of years ago I nicknamed them Waffle House ****** because I ate there fairly frequently I got to know a number of them beyond them taking my order sooooooo after a while I noticed they ALWAYS had some type of BS going on in their lives "baby needs shoes LOL, my car needs repairs, I can't go to the dr. For a major illness / surgery because I owe them money". And the list goes on and on! I actually knew one of the customers that repaired a car he owned and signed it over to one of them. My SO and I got to know one well enough that we'd all go out and drink together at least until she started causing problems between us, and when I say problems I don't mean anything was going on, but she was more than flirting and then stirring the pot by giving advice to my SO that she knew hurts things. She was also the one the customer gave a car and once she had it she quit calling as much, but still tried to use us in other ways much to the detriment of her life because my SO doesn't do prisoners and can hit pretty fucking hard, mind wise mainly, but I never count fists out either! Still eat occasionally at the WH, but I make a point of not getting to know the waitresses anymore! FF you are indeed one of the good ones, maybe a tiny bit naive, but a good one none the less, it's truly a shame that you got burnt like this.
I always thought the same thing, for I can not stand to see a woman be disrespected or abused. I was raised to always respect woman, I never call a woman a *****, I've never raised my hand to woman. I still believe in chivalry and I still open door for woman. But not once but on two occasions / incidents my thoughts on this has changed and I've realized that not all woman want help. Twice out in public I have seen a man disrespect a woman, everything from verbally abusing one to grabbing one and I stood up and approached and said I would appreciate it if you would not disrespect or treat her like that especially in front of me and me and the guy got into an argument and both times the women said "are you going to let him treat you like that or let him talk to you like that" or "are you going to take that from him". So I then realized that unless the woman says "help me, will someone help me" I will not intervene.
[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2767228]If someone is abusing a woman my advice is to hunt his ass down and beat the crap out him. That includes the sumbitch that burned LB.[/QUOTE].
Star tried with me too. From the start Katie told me she was full of shit and lying. I started just seeing Katie when she was at Star's place. Star didn't want to let Katie out of her sight. Once while playing with Katie, Star stood at the stove and made pancakes so she could watch. Did not want Katie to be alone with me. Finally both Katie and I insisted and we had a good time. After we were alone Katie told me Star wasn't a nurse and not to believe anything that came out of her mouth.
Star would say she needed money with stuff and I told her: "Good luck with that." I paid for services only.
Is all the crap that Star spread about Katie true? I really liked that girl. One of my all time favorites.
I remember Star and Katie, Star never tried any of that stuff with me and I had a few great experiences with the duo. But I have fallen before into a similar situation of trying to rescue a provider that I cared about. She still texts me to this day asking for help and saying she loves me.
And on a side note, I just spent some time in Vegas. And if a girl like Star can get you like that you'd get eaten alive in that town. Those girls are on a different level of money begging.
[QUOTE=Saleen21;2768021]I always thought the same thing, for I can not stand to see a woman be disrespected or abused. I was raised to always respect woman, I never call a woman a *****, I've never raised my hand to woman. I still believe in chivalry and I still open door for woman. But not once but on two occasions / incidents my thoughts on this has changed and I've realized that not all woman want help. Twice out in public I have seen a man disrespect a woman, everything from verbally abusing one to grabbing one and I stood up and approached and said I would appreciate it if you would not disrespect or treat her like that especially in front of me and me and the guy got into an argument and both times the women said "are you going to let him treat you like that or let him talk to you like that" or "are you going to take that from him". So I then realized that unless the woman says "help me, will someone help me" I will not intervene.
.[/QUOTE]There's not much that can be done about verbal abuse (which can be worse than physical abuse) and if two grown men want to go after it that's their business but if I see some prick laying hands on a child (with the exception of reasonable disciplinary actions), senior citizen or a woman he will have to deal with me regardless of the victims wishes. Anyway you want to look at it that's the right thing to do, or at least that's the way I was raised.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2767662]A good friend of mine once told me "A man cannot consider himself a complete man until he's been made a fool of by a woman at least once. ".
You can guess for yourself why he may have told me that.
Time heals everything FF, every motherfucking thing hoss.
A2.[/QUOTE]Time is not needed to heal, that was never really required, but closure was and now that has happened. In the hobby we all make choices everyday and I made a choice to try and help someone who I thought needed it. I believed a sob story that had been sold very convincingly to many others on this board. She is the best scammer I have ever experienced and I have a lot of experience. This has changed me and my style of playing. Trust is no longer a pre-season or regular season game; it's now a Super Bowl qualification. So once again A2 I may have to make a trip to your fair part of the world where the pussy is simple and without drama. Not that scammers are exclusive to the US but I'm sure you could provide an old monger with some premium guidance during my visit.
FF.
P.S. The only problem with ladies in your area is that freckles are a rarity.
[QUOTE=SteveTaylor;2768024]Is all the crap that Star spread about Katie true? I really liked that girl. One of my all time favorites.[/QUOTE]The only truth we know is real is when you are there and can see, hear, feel, touch and taste. However this is not true with Star. Multiple times she talked on the phone with Brad, Mom, Jim etc. With me right by her side and the phone call was fake. The only way I would believe she was on the phone with anyone is if they were in the same room with us making the call. Even if she put them on speaker phone the person on the other end of the call could be anyone she wanted to convince you it was the caller. I can see someone challenging her and she holds the phone in your direction and says "See it is Jim because Jim is the contact name". No star that's just the "Contact Name" you put into the contact on your phone associated with a number. The actual phone number of "The contact on your phone" is key to who is on the other end of the line.
So what does all this mean in regards to the crap Star spread about Katie? One: Don't believe anything Star ever says about anyone. Two: Unfortunately this doesn't mean what she said is not true, you just will never know.
FF.
P.S. I have never met Katie, does she have freckles? Wait, never mind I hear she is also an addict, so I really don't want to know!
[QUOTE=Admin2;2767662]A good friend of mine once told me "A man cannot consider himself a complete man until he's been made a fool of by a woman at least once. ".
You can guess for yourself why he may have told me that.
Time heals everything FF, every motherfucking thing hoss.
A2.[/QUOTE]How many times am I going to be the fool and still be able to call myself a man. Wait I have the answer. One last time. I am taking this train all the way to the station or die trying. No fool like an old fool, so considering my advanced age, you are looking at one pretty special fool I suppose. This had to be one hell of a ride buddy.
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2772156] "See it is Jim because Jim is the contact name". No star that's just the "Contact Name" you put into the contact on your phone associated with a number. The actual phone number of "The contact on your phone" is key to who is on the other end of the line.
[/QUOTE]A guy and his wife sitting on the couch watching tv. Guy gets up to go to the bathroom leaving his phone on the coffee table. A text message comes across. Wife looks at the phone. From: Pizza Hut "I Love You Too Baby!
A2 and some of these seniors give very good advice, but we can all be fooled maybe not even by a provider, you just have to do what you think is the right thing to do. It doesn't make you any less of a person because you have compassion, if makes the person that takes advantage of you a bad person.
I just love what Ilapp had to say There always maybe one last time! They call it being a fool, I'll just call it pussy stupid!
BG.
[QUOTE=Ilapp;2772216]How many times am I going to be the fool and still be able to call myself a man. Wait I have the answer. One last time. I am taking this train all the way to the station or die trying. No fool like an old fool, so considering my advanced age, you are looking at one pretty special fool I suppose. This had to be one hell of a ride buddy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ilapp;2772216]How many times am I going to be the fool and still be able to call myself a man. Wait I have the answer. One last time. I am taking this train all the way to the station or die trying. No fool like an old fool, so considering my advanced age, you are looking at one pretty special fool I suppose. This had to be one hell of a ride buddy.[/QUOTE]Oh my friend what a ride, but we know each other far too well and we both have traveled on the same train before with similar results. When will we learn that these trains wreck far too often.
Can a Zebra change it's stripes in the hobby? Probably not. As time goes on I have seen, at least in regards to my darker stripes, that they are fading, or should I say becoming more silver, with each passing episode. I would have to say the hobby has changed my stripes. The dark stripes have faded significantly and my pelage is now consistently white in color. This color has humbled me and my desire to reach out and help providers in need. I will be passing on many future train rides not because of the $ lost, but because maybe I have learned it's not worth the climb on board. I have found that the addicts in the hobby seldom change their stripes because it's rare that an addict will hit rock bottom and truly want to change.
So that being said when do you and I take the next train to share a beer, a train that is on track and will not falter? I hope it will be soon.
FF.
P.S. I actually prefer leopards because their spots resemble freckles.
[QUOTE=Louisvillee;2774270][blue]I'm going to let this go because this whole thread is pretty fucking weird.
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]In other news, the Pacific Ocean is a little wet and salty.
[NOPARSE]/[/NOPARSE]z.
[QUOTE=LotharioCancer;2775206]So a provider friend did me a solid and recommended a new girl to me turn out. Paige has a new spot in Shively, and she works in the basement, for some reason, Paige and Basements together are a winning combination. Her place is big and clean and surprisingly warm. It has an air mattress on the floor but has blankets and furniture and all the trappings of home.
Enter Gidget, 5'2" spinner, long dirty blonde hair, slim build, not much on top but a nice caboose. Pretty blue eyes, clear skin, a couple of small tattoos, country girl accent, great attitude, happy, smiling and full of energy. Had a false start. Arrived, picked up Gidget, then got pulled away and had to come back at 1 am. Great session, Gidget's first group, Paige and I ran her through the standard 2 girl protocol, seems ok working with another girl, pretty full menu, all but Greek and CIM but hey she's new and I'm working on it. Paige ls looking pretty hot too. Put on some weight but it went to all the right places!
The hour flew by pretty quick, Paige finished me BBBJTCCIM got dressed and had to deliver Gidget back home and get along. Who says nothing good ever happens at 1 am. Txted Gidget a few times she's very flirty and wants a one on one now. Who am I to say no? So many girls, only one LC, and oh yeah no money left! Damn! Good thing payday is around the corner! Paige is on the sister site, Gidget is UTR at the moment. Seniors and newbs with reviews can PM me. No contributions no info. Pics are of Gidget. Little Cock.
[/QUOTE]I noticed you were pretty careful not showing her face. You wouldn't want to look like a fool 2 times? Would you?
Don't be a CANCER!
[QUOTE=MillitaryMan69;2775683]I noticed you were pretty careful not showing her face. You wouldn't want to look like a fool 2 times? Would you?
Don't be a CANCER![/QUOTE]I am curious as to whether Mulata aka Gabbi and her bf was home when they went into their basement. That would have been awkward to say the least.
I don't feel like a fool now or ever. In fact I feel like the Kool Aid guy (oh yeah) having gotten my old mitts on these two. We're not talking about virgins here are we. They were in fact NEW to me. .
I'm not deflowering these girls so I really don't care about being first, although I think it'd be cool if I was. But rather I thought I was introducing them to our little society so that we can all enjoy them. I don't recall you posting a review of Chelsea, if you wrote one please share a link to it. I must have missed it.
I will concede that I was uninformed. I never saw the ad for Chelsea before just like I hadn't seen the ad for Kalie the time before. Which tells me something Is slipping past my radar, and I try to stay informed particularly about hot new girls.
Gidget has a face pic but is not comfortable putting it up. But she has a very pretty face too. As far as I know she has advertised before on BP but under a different name and probably one of those sans photo ads. So Inspector Detector, make yourself useful and see if you can find us a link, I for one would like to see it.
And Why are you so angry? I know you have a different worldview than I do. You see the glass as half empty, where I see it as half full, and you're postings are all over the top with cynicism, criticism, and pessimism. Love must have really done a number on you to be this angry.
But if it works for you, stay with that. I'd never say I wouldn't see a girl just because you saw her first like you say that about me, but I know that's not true because you have (Kori, Lyla, Mai) And lately you you seem to enjoy belittling these girls for using drugs but agree that they all use or they probably wouldn't be escorting.
This hobby has risks, condoms fail, pimps and BF's exist, some girls carry guns, and if you don't get mugged or shot, there is a risk of contracting something nasty or permanent. I test regularly, because I'm very active and I think everyone should also. But the fact is that this is thrill seeking behavior, like BASE jumping and we should all get our heads checked.
So by your rational sir, you should just buy yourself a pocket pussy and get off this board if your that concerned about it. I still don't understand all your negativity and hostility and why you choose to direct it at me and others who are just providing or asking for information.
I also don't understand you keeping girls a secret, reviewing them with no name or contact info. I have girls I see who are UTR and don't want to be reviewed so if it's the girls wish then I don't review. You just boast and don't put a name or contact info on it to frustrate us. Is that why?
And I freely share info with everybody, if they have taken The time to write a couple of reviews, this is to give me a good feeling that I'm not giving anything to our uncle. There are seniors also who just ask questions but don't provide any usable info. I withhold info from them as well for the same reason. Not like a child that has a new toy, brags about it, shows pictures of it but won't let anyone else play with it.
Just a little exasperated with all the BS and drama you try to create. You make having a good time feel bad. Example:
Me: I had a great time with X.
You: No you didn't, how can you possibly? When I tried her and she was terrible?
Me: because I'm not you. YMMV.
I noticed you used YMMV a few times recently while you dump on others for using it as a cop out.
Eagerly awaiting your reply (for a change) and again it's a new year. Let's put all the bs and drama behind us and let's all enjoy some top notch kitty. Can we all get along? (Rodney King). Or at least give each other a modicum of courtesy? LC.
Well yes they knew but Paige had wanted that fact kept quiet. Thanks Moj are we square now? LC.
[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2775904]I am curious as to whether Mulata aka Gabbi and her bf was home when they went into their basement. That would have been awkward to say the least.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LotharioCancer;2775979]Well yes they knew but Paige had wanted that fact kept quiet. Thanks Moj are we square now? LC.[/QUOTE]Like I always say, do unto others as they have done unto you. Yeah we're sqare until you pull my chain again. Live and let live, right??
[QUOTE=BnT69;2767165]I meant no offense FF, and nor did I mean to judge. Your story is just an extreme case, but we have all been pussy retarded at some point in our life and we all learn hard lessons at different times. I hope this was the time you finally learned.[/QUOTE]BnT69 you did not offend me nor did I feel judged. I'm not sure anyone can offend me at this point in my life. I have been judged my entire life and learned to live and survive the judgment of others. Every monger has a story, I just have more than some, and will have few if any from this point forward. All the bad stories start out small, but they grown longer and harder with each flirtatious tease of lies and deception. The thing everyone needs to understand is even if Star had been a lesbian or a male with no sex involved I would have tried to help. That's just what I do and it's an integral part of my being. You would be amazed at the number of PM's I have received from mongers who admit to being scammed by her. Remember the hobby is a brotherhood and we hobbyists need to help each other. Part of the way we do this is to cut off the bad ones. Let them drown in the cesspool they dug and filled themselves. That of course is a hobbyists choice. I have chosen and I know others have as well.
You can also find a gofundme account by Stars real name that she started for a friend that died over a year ago. It was to cover funeral costs but no money was ever given to the family. Guess it was used for other purposes like her medical expenses, specifically pharmaceutical costs.
FF.
P.S. Hey how about a gofundme account to pay me back, I will call it the freckled dumb ass account!
All the BS is just wasted energy, that could be invested in talking about pussy, there are a few people that just feed off negativity!
LC and a few other seniors are very helpful with information, thank you to all! , and a few write posts that are fun and funny to read, some keep thinks closer the their cuff (the PMers) then there are people that you don't even want to make a comment, because other's they want to give you shit.
Opinion's are like assholes ever one has one and most stink!
BG, we almost made it a month.
Be happy.
[QUOTE=LotharioCancer;2775971]I don't feel like a fool now or ever. In fact I feel like the Kool Aid guy (oh yeah) having gotten my old mitts on these two. We're not talking about virgins here are we. They were in fact NEW to me. .
I'm not deflowering these girls so I really don't care about being first, although I think it'd be cool if I was. But rather I thought I was introducing them to our little society so that we can all enjoy them. I don't recall you posting a review of Chelsea, if you wrote one please share a link to it. I must have missed it.
I will concede that I was uninformed. I never saw the ad for Chelsea before just like I hadn't seen the ad for Kalie the time before. Which tells me something Is slipping past my radar, and I try to stay informed particularly about hot new girls.
Gidget has a face pic but is not comfortable putting it up. But she has a very pretty face too. As far as I know she has advertised before on BP but under a different name and probably one of those sans photo ads. So Inspector Detector, make yourself useful and see if you can find us a link, I for one would like to see it.
And Why are you so angry? I know you have a different worldview than I do. You see the glass as half empty, where I see it as half full, and you're postings are all over the top with cynicism, criticism, and pessimism. Love must have really done a number on you to be this angry.
But if it works for you, stay with that. I'd never say I wouldn't see a girl just because you saw her first like you say that about me, but I know that's not true because you have (Kori, Lyla, Mai) And lately you you seem to enjoy belittling these girls for using drugs but agree that they all use or they probably wouldn't be escorting.
This hobby has risks, condoms fail, pimps and BF's exist, some girls carry guns, and if you don't get mugged or shot, there is a risk of contracting something nasty or permanent. I test regularly, because I'm very active and I think everyone should also. But the fact is that this is thrill seeking behavior, like BASE jumping and we should all get our heads checked.
So by your rational sir, you should just buy yourself a pocket pussy and get off this board if your that concerned about it. I still don't understand all your negativity and hostility and why you choose to direct it at me and others who are just providing or asking for information.
I also don't understand you keeping girls a secret, reviewing them with no name or contact info. I have girls I see who are UTR and don't want to be reviewed so if it's the girls wish then I don't review. You just boast and don't put a name or contact info on it to frustrate us. Is that why?
And I freely share info with everybody, if they have taken The time to write a couple of reviews, this is to give me a good feeling that I'm not giving anything to our uncle. There are seniors also who just ask questions but don't provide any usable info. I withhold info from them as well for the same reason. Not like a child that has a new toy, brags about it, shows pictures of it but won't let anyone else play with it.
Just a little exasperated with all the BS and drama you try to create. You make having a good time feel bad. Example:
Me: I had a great time with X.
You: No you didn't, how can you possibly? When I tried her and she was terrible?
Me: because I'm not you. YMMV.
I noticed you used YMMV a few times recently while you dump on others for using it as a cop out.
Eagerly awaiting your reply (for a change) and again it's a new year. Let's put all the bs and drama behind us and let's all enjoy some top notch kitty. Can we all get along? (Rodney King). Or at least give each other a modicum of courtesy? LC.[/QUOTE]
I am not BG. But thanks, you I'd be ok having a beer with. LC.
[QUOTE=BigGuyUAteMe;2776386]All the BS is just wasted energy, that could be invested in talking about pussy, there are a few people that just feed off negativity!
LC and a few other seniors are very helpful with information, thank you to all! , and a few write posts that are fun and funny to read, some keep thinks closer the their cuff (the PMers) then there are people that you don't even want to make a comment, because other's they want to give you shit.
Opinion's are like assholes ever one has one and most stink!
BG, we almost made it a month.
Be happy.[/QUOTE]
Maybe wishful thinking but PM me the great providers who are drug free. Yep probably just 1 percent are drug free. Start a blog? Is this worth the time? I sure hope so. Hell I know who are druggies. LOL.
Zero percent. Take all necessary precautions or find a SB get tested together and make her wear a chastity belt when your not around. LC.
[QUOTE=KaintuckMan;2776580]Maybe wishful thinking but PM me the great providers who are drug free. Yep probably just 1 percent are drug free. Start a blog? Is this worth the time? I sure hope so. Hell I know who are druggies. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KaintuckMan;2776580]Maybe wishful thinking but PM me the great providers who are drug free. Yep probably just 1 percent are drug free. Start a blog? Is this worth the time? I sure hope so. Hell I know who are druggies. LOL.[/QUOTE]How are going to know? Ask them? They are all DDF, if you don't believe me just look at their ads. LOL.
[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2776705]How are going to know? Ask them? They are all DDF, if you don't believe me just look at their ads. LOL.[/QUOTE]Just like I know who are are reliable trustworthy men on here. No offense.
[QUOTE=KaintuckMan;2776763]Just like I know who are are reliable trustworthy men on here. No offense.[/QUOTE]None taken Kain and if there was a good way to know for certain who is using and who isn't using the blog would be cool. The fact of the matter is most addicts are very good at hiding their habit and there is just no reliable way to know if they are using or not until they get to the point where they don't care anymore. When they get to that point it becomes obvious to all that there is a problem.
[QUOTE=LotharioCancer;2776701]Zero percent. Take all necessary precautions or find a SB get tested together and make her wear a chastity belt when your not around. LC.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of an old joke. Everyone knows the story of King Arthur and Guinevere. The king was going on one his crusades and he placed a chastity belt on Guin. Anything that went in was cut off. Arthur left his Knights of the round table to protect Guin. The king comes back safely and calls a meeting of the round table. Arthur said Knights pull down your drawers. Every Knights dick was cut off except Sir Lancelots. The king said Lancelot, my pal, my first knight, what wish would you like. Sir Lancelot takes his finger, opens his mouth and points to his tongue. Ugh, Ugh, ugh. Of course his tongue was cut off. LOL.
Your right not many that are not.
[QUOTE=KaintuckMan;2776580]Maybe wishful thinking but PM me the great providers who are drug free. Yep probably just 1 percent are drug free. Start a blog? Is this worth the time? I sure hope so. Hell I know who are druggies. LOL.[/QUOTE]This could be the best blog of all times, but could be a short list! and could need updating every day !
BG.
[QUOTE=LotharioCancer;2776701]Zero percent. Take all necessary precautions or find a SB get tested together and make her wear a chastity belt when your not around. LC.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2776803]If there was a good way to know for certain who is using and who isn't using the blog would be cool. The fact of the matter is most addicts are very good at hiding their habit and there is just no reliable way to know if they are using or not until they get to the point where they don't care anymore. When they get to that point it becomes obvious to all that there is a problem.[/QUOTE]I disagree with LC's analysis of zero percent and yes you can buy drug tests at Walmart and make it part of your foreplay but good luck in getting the provider to go along. I have stated in the past there are three reasons for providers.
One is to supply some type of addiction for themselves or their SO. I know one provider in Indy that uses her hobby money to gamble. Gambling is her addiction. So the question is what is there addiction of choice and how could it affect the hobbyists health. Obviously anything to do with needles can lead to serious health issues. Anytime heavy drug use of any type is prevalent then safety should be a concern whether it's unsafe practices or robbery.
The second reason is to bring in cash flow for living expenses. These providers cannot for some reason get a real job or their real job doesn't pay the bills. I know of one who has a decent regular job with a fantastic education but because of an old felony they cannot get the type of job needed to balance her monthly cash flow. She provides part time to pay the bills. Some provide full time to pay the bills. It just depends on the cash flow needed and there ability or willingness to get a job.
The third reason is because they enjoy the hobby. They enjoy meeting new people and they enjoy the sex. I know of one who is a dentist and obviously makes a very good living. She is tired of dating, doesn't want to deal with relationships. Too many bad ones in the past. So she is a part time provider. She enjoys being wined and dined and then ravaged between the sheets. A no strings attached relationship and the money is more of a thrill than a significant part of her living expenses. Look at some of the high end providers. Some have masters but still provide because they earn a good living and enjoy the company of men.
So providers on BP and probably the sister advertising site are going to be primarily in the first category. There are some that fall into the second category. The question really is which of the ones in the first category are playing with fire in regards to health and safety issues that would affect a hobbyists visit? That's the. 4 to $$ question depending on the time spent. Many providers use some types of drugs on a recreational level as do many hobbyists that I know. So is recreational use a concern? Not in my mind. So if a blog is started let's make sure we identify the providers preferred source of advertising and whether the drug issue is recreational or an addiction. Just one mongers opinion.
FF.
P.S. When a provider I know smokes some wacky tobacky her freckles ravage me.
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2777204]I disagree with LC's analysis of zero percent and yes you can buy drug tests at Walmart and make it part of your foreplay but good luck in getting the provider to go along. I have stated in the past there are three reasons for providers.
One is to supply some type of addiction for themselves or their SO. I know one provider in Indy that uses her hobby money to gamble. Gambling is her addiction. So the question is what is there addiction of choice and how could it affect the hobbyists health. Obviously anything to do with needles can lead to serious health issues. Anytime heavy drug use of any type is prevalent then safety should be a concern whether it's unsafe practices or robbery.
The second reason is to bring in cash flow for living expenses. These providers cannot for some reason get a real job or their real job doesn't pay the bills. I know of one who has a decent regular job with a fantastic education but because of an old felony they cannot get the type of job needed to balance her monthly cash flow. She provides part time to pay the bills. Some provide full time to pay the bills. It just depends on the cash flow needed and there ability or willingness to get a job.
The third reason is because they enjoy the hobby. They enjoy meeting new people and they enjoy the sex. I know of one who is a dentist and obviously makes a very good living. She is tired of dating, doesn't want to deal with relationships. Too many bad ones in the past. So she is a part time provider. She enjoys being wined and dined and then ravaged between the sheets. A no strings attached relationship and the money is more of a thrill than a significant part of her living expenses. Look at some of the high end providers. Some have masters but still provide because they earn a good living and enjoy the company of men.
So providers on BP and probably the sister advertising site are going to be primarily in the first category. There are some that fall into the second category. The question really is which of the ones in the first category are playing with fire in regards to health and safety issues that would affect a hobbyists visit? That's the. 4 to $$ question depending on the time spent. Many providers use some types of drugs on a recreational level as do many hobbyists that I know. So is recreational use a concern? Not in my mind. So if a blog is started let's make sure we identify the providers preferred source of advertising and whether the drug issue is recreational or an addiction. Just one mongers opinion.
FF.
P.S. When a provider I know smokes some wacky tobacky her freckles ravage me.[/QUOTE]My experience is more like LC, no matter what any provider has told me, in the end they have all been drug users, and all of the women I have ever known that provided as users have quit when they finally got clean.
Now granted I have not met all providers and have never met a SB, but my experience is like LC's. They may have multiple addictions, they all need money and they all use drugs.
Island dreams.
[QUOTE=IslandDreams;2777320]My experience is more like LC, no matter what any provider has told me, in the end they have all been drug users, and all of the women I have ever known that provided as users have quit when they finally got clean.
Now granted I have not met all providers and have never met a SB, but my experience is like LC's. They may have multiple addictions, they all need money and they all use drugs.
Island dreams.[/QUOTE]That's been my experiences too. I just started seeing a cute girl that quit H over a year ago and is off the suboxone as well but she's not interested in being an escort per se. If there are any traces of her addiction left it's the fact that she never quits talking but she doesn't gripe and complain much so I'm good with her being chatty. For all the doubters out there MM69 knows who I am referring to.
[QUOTE=IslandDreams;2777320]My experience is more like LC, in the end they have all been drug users, and all of the women I have ever known that provided as users have quit when they finally got clean.
Now granted I have not met all providers and have never met a SB[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2777512]That's been my experiences too.[/QUOTE]Well I know of several, at least in my part of the world, that don't have a drug issue. One of the best in Indy is Becki LeBeau and another is Sasha on 411. Now they both are over the $200 hour mark so in order to get a drug free environment you may have to pay more than $ hr. I have seen providers all over the country and even overseas. I think it's maybe lack of experience for one to assume they are all on drugs. I only saw Jessica Pixie once and didn't see signs of addiction, but I may have missed it because I was too enthralled with her freckles.
95 percent of the BP ladies do have a drug problem. That is why I'm careful with who I will see from that source. However Erica in Indy who advertises on BP is clean and enjoys the experience not the drugs.
FF.
P.S. Freckles are always better in a drug free zone.
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2777560]Well I know of several, at least in my part of the world, that don't have a drug issue. One of the best in Indy is Becki LeBeau and another is Sasha on 411. Now they both are over the $200 hour mark so in order to get a drug free environment you may have to pay more than $ hr. I have seen providers all over the country and even overseas. I think it's maybe lack of experience for one to assume they are all on drugs. I only saw Jessica Pixie once and didn't see signs of addiction, but I may have missed it because I was too enthralled with her freckles.
95 percent of the BP ladies do have a drug problem. That is why I'm careful with who I will see from that source. However Erica in Indy who advertises on BP is clean and enjoys the experience not the drugs.
FF.
P.S. Freckles are always better in a drug free zone.[/QUOTE]Granted, it could be a thing that is problematic more so in Louisville than other cities in the area.
If you watch the news at all, heroin and opiate abuse is an epidemic of epic proportions in Louisville and Southern Indiana. Both have started needle programs so they won't use dirty needles because of the HIV outbreak in the Sellersburg area. Personally I don't think it's limited to just our areas, but it certainly has become a much bigger problem!
I sit and read the forums and though it shouldn't but yet the amount of change in 3 years and what I've personally seen and witnessed from other providers and drug use is insane. Straight downwards spiral and I never thought I'd experience things I have and seen what I have ever. Maybe being from the backwoods I was naive and to trusting to all, but quickly learned that being naive turned my life upside down and quickly and still never seen the shit. But took parts of my life through hell and I've never even seen Heroine and ones who know me and the story knows my hatred and disgust for it and after that tragedy had yet two more providers try to jeprodize myself and my life and my kids lifes by being on it and lying to my face. Even caught one of the two with it in my home and shit didn't go well for her and her belongings. Even two dear friends I've had to let go or not near as close as before because the distrust and hurt from them doing Herione after knowing what I had been thru and our friendship or that didn't have no matter to that demon.
So I will be alone friendless and drug free than taking chances ony life health and my babies to have a buddy or bff. So probably coming within the next few months to the point in time in my life to start exiting the Hobby because as much as I love Men and all men especially new hobby guys. And Giving Head its just not how it use to be. Rant Ended.
[QUOTE=KentuckyKatana;2778265]I sit and read the forums and though it shouldn't but yet the amount of change in 3 years and what I've personally seen and witnessed from other providers and drug use is insane. Straight downwards spiral and I never thought I'd experience things I have and seen what I have ever. Maybe being from the backwoods I was naive and to trusting to all, but quickly learned that being naive turned my life upside down and quickly and still never seen the shit. But took parts of my life through hell and I've never even seen Heroine and ones who know me and the story knows my hatred and disgust for it and after that tragedy had yet two more providers try to jeprodize myself and my life and my kids lifes by being on it and lying to my face. Even caught one of the two with it in my home and shit didn't go well for her and her belongings. Even two dear friends I've had to let go or not near as close as before because the distrust and hurt from them doing Herione after knowing what I had been thru and our friendship or that didn't have no matter to that demon.
So I will be alone friendless and drug free than taking chances ony life health and my babies to have a buddy or bff. So probably coming within the next few months to the point in time in my life to start exiting the Hobby because as much as I love Men and all men especially new hobby guys. And Giving Head its just not how it use to be. Rant Ended.[/QUOTE]The tragedy you refer to is the main reason I started assuming that all escorts are addicts. That includes you my dear only unlike the drug addictions of other escorts you are addicted to cock. It's good to have at least one old school girl still around.
[QUOTE=KentuckyKatana;2778265]I sit and read the forums and though it shouldn't but yet the amount of change in 3 years and what I've personally seen and witnessed from other providers and drug use is insane. Straight downwards spiral and I never thought I'd experience things I have and seen what I have ever. Maybe being from the backwoods I was naive and to trusting to all, but quickly learned that being naive turned my life upside down and quickly and still never seen the shit. But took parts of my life through hell and I've never even seen Heroine and ones who know me and the story knows my hatred and disgust for it and after that tragedy had yet two more providers try to jeprodize myself and my life and my kids lifes by being on it and lying to my face. Even caught one of the two with it in my home and shit didn't go well for her and her belongings. Even two dear friends I've had to let go or not near as close as before because the distrust and hurt from them doing Herione after knowing what I had been thru and our friendship or that didn't have no matter to that demon.
So I will be alone friendless and drug free than taking chances ony life health and my babies to have a buddy or bff. So probably coming within the next few months to the point in time in my life to start exiting the Hobby because as much as I love Men and all men especially new hobby guys. And Giving Head its just not how it use to be. Rant Ended.[/QUOTE]I hope this isn't referring to your friend I know, I haven't spoke to her in quite awile. I'm sorry to hear things have gotten that bad for you.
[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2778448]The tragedy you refer to is the main reason I started assuming that all escorts are addicts. That includes you my dear only unlike the drug addictions of other escorts you are addicted to cock. It's good to have at least one old school girl still around.[/QUOTE]You think I'd learn to proofread before sending after awhile. My grammer may be terrible but my linguistic cock skills are on point That is my addiction, Men, Sucking Dick and Pleasing someone generous enough to choose me to give him that satisfsction. Thats a high to me. So put me in Sex Addiction Rehab with Jesse James, David Decovney, Colin Ferrall, I'm sure I'd pay attention Heroine is Satan himself that takes over someones entire person they were, Rapidly demolishes who thwy could have been, takes once dreams into nightmares and in the end has taken their entire SOUL. And there is no come backs. Even a recovered addict of 10 years has to fight that demon daily for the rest of their life. And most loose that daily battle. I'm not Saint Theresa of escorting by far LOL. I sweat like a hooker at chuch on Sundays but Jesus knows I was helping a friend praise him just hours earlier already too. LOL. Oh God yes feels so good. I hope for the best with these girls on "boy". I really do. I also don't excuse I will never believe that girls care enough about themselves or their kids or families enough to try, to give it a chance and effort. That demon is easier go feed and more fun than going to rehab right? And OMFG the shit with Star Baby. Wwwwooooowwww. FF. I gots all kinda freckles LOL and damn Sir sounds like you need a damn good time in your life after that disaster.
[QUOTE=Jman3848;2778604]I hope this isn't referring to your friend I know, I haven't spoke to her in quite awile. I'm sorry to hear things have gotten that bad for you.[/QUOTE]I'm definitely GOOD now. The girls I met that also are or were providers too, I gave to much trust and credit and I paid for not choosing who I brought into my life better but that taught me enough to call Junkie with the others after her. I love my kids to much to involve any other escorts in my life again.