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[QUOTE=CookyJar]A simple yes or no would have sufficed. LOL



WOW! A $225 hand job, now that really sucks. When something like this happens do you have any recourse at all? Can you complain to the agency? What about a refund?

$225 for a HJ, there should be a law.

This is the type of info I truly appreciate. Finding the good ones is hard. Finding the bad ones is harder.



I have yet to determine the distinctions between Hobbyist and Monger. Could someone provide me with definitions? I post much of the same information you mentioned whenever possible. I also try to obtain as much information as is obtainable, whenever possible.

I consider myself both a Hobbyist (a indulger in a hobby.) and a Monger (a chaser of women).

I find what you do fascinating. I have often thought about trying a escort service sometime in the future. I’ve been around for awhile and I don’t see much difference in the overall outcome. There is something to be said about the conditions of the surrounding. Other then that, a rose is a rose and by any other name…

CookyJar[/QUOTE]




$225 for a HJ really SUCKS. As far as recourse...your beat. All you can do is warn you brothers and hope that she dosent scam anyone that you know. You LEARN from your mistakes and move on.

As far as the diffrence between Hobbying and mongering? This has been disscused on many boards . I personally dont like lables . I have done both.

IMHO mongering is simply the pursuit of "pussy" or the pursuit of simply getting off. When I go for a cruise and a BJ in my car will do and I am not that particular with whom will be doing the sucking(the only real reqirement is that she have a vagina...lol) That to me is"Mongering" I simply trying to fufill a need to "get-off",busta nut, or cum.

When I am hobbying I need more. I will search for the perfect girl,Combination of looks perfect face and perfect body in hopes for a near perfect session. My requirements are much higher when I am hobbying. I like round, tight, firm J-lo asses. I want nothing less than a full c breasts and shrivelled up pancake saggy breasts are never an option. A belly pouch is a disgusting and I would prefer toned abs. For me. I am trying to get as close to fucking Jessica Alba as possible.Durring that session I want it all. I want Intamacy(at least a false perception of intamacy) I want to DATY,I want to DFK, I want BBBJTCBQNS, I want to feel like I have made love. A true GFEor PSE For that experience I am willing to pay the price.

When I am in a local go-go club and I go up to the VIP room to get my dick sucked. I am much more lenient with my requirements. In that mode I am "mongering". I dont need a bed. I dont want to kiss her. I dont want to eat her pussy, No GFE needed. Make me cum so I can go home.


forgive the typos using my cell

Hawk

[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk]Well, we will have to agree to disagree on this . I think the research factor is an intergal part of the "hobby". "The research" is what distinguishes the amature from the more seasoned hobbyiest. In any "hobby" be it stamp collecting, etimology, or even sports such as golfing. The more involved, the more you practice, and educate yourself within your hobby the more proficient you will become.


I had a streak of bad sessions in the early part of this year. The main reason was because I was "off of my game". I became lazy and didnt do the research I knew was needed to have a least a good session.

There is no doubt about it that there are reviews out there that are incorrect and inflated. It is up to the individual hobbiest to learn how to decipher what he reads. Always know that beauty is subjective. So much more important than a score, I want to know are the pics recent and accurate. The only way you will know ,is by reading several of the most recent reviews. It is not enough to just analyze the reviews but you also must analyze the reviewer. Is he consistant? does he share simmaler tastes in women with you?(perhaps he like MILFS or BBW's) Is he a real reviewer?(there are tons of fake reviews submitted ) All of this information and much more can be used when decideing if a provider is worth seeing or not.


please forgive the typos I am submitting this from my cell phone.[/QUOTE]

I agreed by your definition if I do research i am a hobbyist, and by mine I am just some guy who likes to get laid without getting ripped off.

If I never see a negative comment about any provider who pays a particular review board I am susupicious. There are a few well know providers that guys rave about on some of these boards that remind me of the fat chick who no one admitted sleeping with. Then again maybe everyone likes those BBW.

Let us get back to some open discussions and stop labeling ourselves because maybe you call yourself something and maybe you want to call someone else something different. We all want a little something without getting ripped off.

Here's a blast from the past: My favorite bad girl escort:

Madison of madison Ave

She was from out near Harrisburg and came to philly semi regular. Boy was she a heartbreaker. She would call you up until 10 minutes before the date and then no show you. Everyone knew she did it but some guys loved to claim how sweat she was and that she never did it to them. The girl was not just hot but on fire and modestly priced. I met her once and not only did an hour session last about 2 hours but she was as great as her positive reviews. She was a provider that dispite all the negative press was a keeper. She even looked at me odd when I tried to tip her like I was ruining the mood.

Now for a bad one:
Autumn for down south:

She used a last name but there was a rumor that she may have died so I would rather proctect her Id postmortum. She fancied herself a porn star and even talked about meeting Ron Jeremy in Vegas at the convention. I arranged everything by email and went to meet her at the in call. She basically changed prices on me. I checked her website after the date and confirmed that she had been dishonest. I posted a review. It is not on that particular board anymore but I guess it does not matter much now.

Sorry Runnow, I don't agree. I still don't see a distinction. Hobbyist, monger or hunter, it's all one and the same.

[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk]$225 for a HJ really SUCKS. As far as recourse...your beat. All you can do is warn you brothers and hope that she dosent scam anyone that you know. You LEARN from your mistakes and move on.

IMHO mongering is simply the pursuit of "pussy" or the pursuit of simply getting off. When I go for a cruise and a BJ in my car will do and I am not that particular with whom will be doing the sucking(the only real reqirement is that she have a vagina...lol) That to me is"Mongering" I simply trying to fufill a need to "get-off",busta nut, or cum.

When I am hobbying I need more.
Hawk[/QUOTE]

Apples and Oranges again! What we are both after, is the best we can get for what we are willing to put into it.

The only real differences are in the individual. We have different needs, that’s it, simple cut and dry.

It is not like the girls you obtain are different; after all they do have vaginas – don’t they? The girls you seek have vaginas very similar to the girls I seek. Unless someone has invented or produced a super pussy, pussy is still pussy isn’t it. And you do want to, “get-off, busta nut or cum,” don’t you? Believe you me, I demand that my girls all have vaginas, asses and tits and whenever possible I want them to be cute or pretty. I prefer women with nice tits that don’t sag, however it doesn’t always work out the way I’d like. Judging by what you’ve pointed out, things don’t always go your way either. And in both of our cases, when things don’t turn out the way we’d like, we have little recourse…you’re beat. We learn from our mistakes and move on. Your resources are great, but then so are mind. You have the entire internet at you disposal. You can search for the best bodies money can buy, nice face, big tits and ass, but you are never 100% certain of what you’re gonna get until you get it. It’s all relative. Your mistake cost you $225, mine cost $25, but it’s still all relative. You’re willing to lose $225, I’m not. Donc va la vie, donc les vieux disent.

I take my participation very serious at every turn. I am attempting to stay ahead of LE, the girl, her girl friends, her pimp, other pimps, street thugs, pushers, neighborhood do gooders, other hobbyist/monders and etc. I use weather reports, new reports, police reports and reviews given as reports. I take advantage of holidays, sport events, parades, rainy days and Sundays, and anything else that will give me some advantage. I rely on my wits to make good judgments. Some call them Monger senses.

People who are trying to separate themselves by claiming to be one or the other are elitist. Consider this: The girls we call providers, whether they walk the streets or work for a service, refer to us as neither Hobbyist nor Monger – they call us johns, dates or assholes. The illusion is ours.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Sorry Runnow, I don't agree. I still don't see a distinction. Hobbyist, monger or hunter, it's all one and the same.



Apples and Oranges again! What we are both after, is the best we can get for what we are willing to put into it.

The only real differences are in the individual. We have different needs, that’s it, simple cut and dry.

It is not like the girls you obtain are different; after all they do have vaginas – don’t they? The girls you seek have vaginas very similar to the girls I seek. Unless someone has invented or produced a super pussy, pussy is still pussy isn’t it. And you do want to, “get-off, busta nut or cum,” don’t you? Believe you me, I demand that my girls all have vaginas, asses and tits and whenever possible I want them to be cute or pretty. I prefer women with nice tits that don’t sag, however it doesn’t always work out the way I’d like. [/QUOTE]

I think our motivation to hobby is a little diffrent. I have several girlfriends that I can fuck for free. I have been in committed relationships where I was getting sex on the regular and still I hobbied. Its not about the money with me. Its not about VALUE or "bang for the nut". Many of the women that are on the streets I wouldnt fuck for free ,not even if they paid me $$$. Keeping things on the real I couldnt fuck some of those girls. My dick wouldnt show up for the party. I get hard when the wind blows but I have to be at least attracted to the woman.

PUSSY is PUSSY does not work for me. Under no circumstance could I ever do anything with a woman that looks like Mary or Debra. I have had outcall women show up that were not to my standard. and I had to ask them to leave. The closest thing I have recently had to experience to this was a woman named Butterscotch. She has been advertising on CL lately and was reffered to me by a guy who now is on my unreliable list. If you read the other reviewers they were more satisfied because they thought her PRICE was right.(30 minute sessions and $75BJ specials) I am here to tell ya that I wouldnt fuck her if she was FREE. I let her her blow me only becuase she had driven to my home and I didnt want to completly waste her time and mine.
[url]http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=99243[/url]

CHRISTOPHTRAC'S REVIEW OF BUTTASKOTCH


appearance: 5 - Plain performance: 3 - Barely worth the effort
attitude: willing to please atmosphere: comfortable

What can I say..... somtimes with CL you are rolling the dice. This roll was not lucky....Vip read on....

First I will say that Buttaskotch is a nice girl. Pleasant attitude and actually gave a pretty good BBBJTC. The problem is her body. Its not nice(and I am being nice by leaving it at that). I was so turned off by her body I couldnt even think about FS. FS may be on the menu she even advertises Greek but I'll never know. DATY for me would only happen in in a drug induced nightmare.Her body is covered in all of her pics....that should have been a clue to me . But on this day I was thinking with the little head not the big head. Not my cup of tea. Not trying to be mean. I am just stating the facts...



the attachments are just an example that all PUSSY is not created equal...lol

[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk]I think our motivation to hobby is a little diffrent. I have several girlfriends that I can fuck for free. I have been in committed relationships where I was getting sex on the regular and still I hobbied. Its not about the money with me. Its not about VALUE or "bang for the nut". Many of the women that are on the streets I wouldnt fuck for free ,not even if they paid me $$$. Keeping things on the real I couldnt fuck some of those girls. My dick wouldnt show up for the party. I get hard when the wind blows but I have to be at least attracted to the woman.

PUSSY is PUSSY does not work for me. Under no circumstance could I ever do anything with a woman that looks like Mary or Debra. I have had outcall women show up that were not to my standard. and I had to ask them to leave. The closest thing I have recently had to experience to this was a woman named Butterscotch. She has been advertising on CL lately and was reffered to me by a guy who now is on my unreliable list. If you read the other reviewers they were more satisfied because they thought her PRICE was right.(30 minute sessions and $75BJ specials) I am here to tell ya that I wouldnt fuck her if she was FREE. I let her her blow me only becuase she had driven to my home and I didnt want to completly waste her time and mine.
[url]http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=99243[/url]

Christophtrac'S REVIEW OF BUTTASKOTCH

Appearance: 5. Plain performance: 3. Barely worth the effort attitude: willing to please atmosphere: comfortable What can I say. Somtimes with CL you are rolling the dice. This roll was not lucky. Vip read on.

First I will say that Buttaskotch is a nice girl. Pleasant attitude and actually gave a pretty good BBBJTC. The problem is her body. Its not nice (and I am being nice by leaving it at that). I was so turned off by her body I couldn't even think about FS. FS may be on the menu she even advertises Greek but I'll never know. DATY for me would only happen in in a drug induced nightmare. Her body is covered in all of her pics. That should have been a clue to me. But on this day I was thinking with the little head not the big head. Not my cup of tea. Not trying to be mean. I am just stating the facts.

The attachments are just an example that all PUSSY is not created equal. LOL[/QUOTE] Please don't show those two nasty Photo's agsin. You know which ones. They make me sick. JUNKIE's to the MAX. Very sad

Thanks for polluting the photo gallery. Excuse me while I throw up all over my keyboard.

[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk]I think our motivation to hobby is a little diffrent. [/QUOTE]

I doubt it. What motivates us is probably very similar. It’s our individual needs that differ. And the difference isn’t all that great. After all, while you may not be comfortable with some of the girl that I have pictured and fucked; I will admit that I would probably fuck all of the girls pictured in your post.

(Furthermore, not all of the girls that I picture are that bad. Some of them have been and are escorts.)

[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk]Many of the women that are on the streets I wouldnt fuck for free…
PUSSY is PUSSY does not work for me. Under no circumstance could I ever do anything with a woman that looks like Mary or Debra.
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Pussy is pussy, that’s a fact. Don’t take my word for it, check with you family physician. He’ll tell you that with few exceptions, physically, they are all the same. It’s true that some maybe a bit tighter or looser than others, but, basically, pussy is pussy. It’s the packaging that differs.

Walk up and down any street, lane or path in the world and you’ll see women of all body types. They all have a few things in common: tits, ass and pussies. They have one other thing in common: somewhere there is a man willing to love and fuck them. Take Mary for example. They are a lot of Mary’s out there in the real world and there are men, husbands and boyfriends fucking them daily and for free. They are the girls who gain weight, lose weight, have babies, are in accidents, are born to be big or for whatever reason don’t fit in our notion of beauty/escort types. They all have pussies that are being fucked by someone.

In my defense, it is easy to pick on me and my choices. I report on the good, the bad and the ugly and I post their pictures. Not every girl I pick up is a ten, I admit to that. I don’t fuck every girl I pickup either. I would suspect that we are alike in this, we don’t fuck everything we see or pickup. I believe in my review on Mary I stated that I could not bring myself to fuck her – however, out of the kindness of my heart, I was willing to stick my dick in her mouth.

I don’t want to get into a tit for tat debate with you. I asked a couple of simple questions, I thought you’d be able to answer. A hobbyist is a hobbyist, a monger is a monger, when things go bad we have little recourse and pussy isn’t pussy, let’s leave it at that.

Next question! What’s the deal with taking pictures of escort and porn stars? You know how I like taking pictures. I’d hate giving up that part of what I do.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Next question! What’s the deal with taking pictures of escort and porn stars? You know how I like taking pictures. I’d hate giving up that part of what I do.

CookyJar[/QUOTE]


I don't understand your question? Alot of guys have come to expect a couple of pics along with my reviews. Its just something that I have been doing.When it is allowed I will take a couple of pics. Mostly I do it for me. Its nice to look back and remember the great times I have had.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]
Next question! What’s the deal with taking pictures of escort and porn stars? You know how I like taking pictures. I’d hate giving up that part of what I do.
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[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk]I dont understand your question? A lot of guys have come to expect a couple of pics along with my reviews. Its just something that I have been doing. When it is allowed I will take a couple of pics. Mostly I do it for me. Its nice to look back and remember the great times I have had.[/QUOTE]

Hawk, I think what CJ is asking is, will escorts and porn stars allow him to take pics like he does with his SW pickups... What percentage of escorts do think would allow pics? Personally, I find that whatever (or whoever, LOL) I'm watching or doing, the mechanics of photography get in the way of the event. And some things work better as memories... ;)

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[QUOTE=Android67]Hawk, I think what CJ is asking is, will escorts and porn stars allow him to take pics like he does with his SW pickups... What percentage of escorts do think would allow pics? ;)

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That’s basically it.

On the streets I use the picture taking request as a ploy. A way of getting to see what a SW has before I commit myself. I’ve been doing it so long that it’s gotten to be fun. Even the girls have gotten to like doing it. Now that I’ve gotten into it, I’d hate to stop.

I would love the opportunity to photography a real pro; a girl who shows up with the proper make-up and outfits. I guess my question is how hard is it to get these girls to pose? What’s the additional cost?

CookyJar

[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk]These are just my reviews from this year.

As you can see all of them are not 9/9 reviews.

Aug 2008
Jayla Moore & TUP Philadelphia 8 - Really Hot 10 - One in a lifetime

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Hawk,

Please tell me you have a picture of this girl. She may be an old pal of mine. If it is the same girl, I sure appreciate contact info.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Sorry Runnow, I don't agree. I still don't see a distinction. Hobbyist, monger or hunter, it's all one and the same. /
CookyJar[/QUOTE]


CJ, I guess you did not read this part.

[QUOTE=Runnow]Let us get back to some open discussions and stop labeling ourselves because maybe you call yourself something and maybe you want to call someone else something different. We all want a little something without getting ripped off.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk]I think our motivation to hobby is a little diffrent. I have several girlfriends that I can fuck for free. I have been in committed relationships where I was getting sex on the regular and still I hobbied. Its not about the money with me. Its not about VALUE or "bang for the nut". Many of the women that are on the streets I wouldnt fuck for free ,not even if they paid me $$$. Keeping things on the real I couldnt fuck some of those girls. My dick wouldnt show up for the party. I get hard when the wind blows but I have to be at least attracted to the woman.
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I do not think any of us are looking to get laid by women we find unattractive but you have said it yourself Hawk, everyone has thier own taste.

[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk] It is not enough to just analyze the reviews but you also must analyze the reviewer. Is he consistant? does he share simmaler tastes in women with you?(perhaps he like MILFS or BBW's) ...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk]
For me. I am trying to get as close to fucking Jessica Alba as possible.Durring that session I want it all. I want Intamacy(at least a false perception of intamacy) I want to DATY,I want to DFK, I want BBBJTCBQNS, I want to feel like I have made love. A true GFEor PSE For that experience I am willing to pay the price. [/QUOTE]


I am guessing your motivation is to have a fantasy fulfilled of being laid by a woman that is attractive to you such as Jessica Alba. Trust me I can get behind that fantasy. When you find her let me know.

However I propose that this discussion move to the fight club section or somewhere else where we do not clutter what can be a very useful resource for us all. It is an endless discussion in a country that prides it self on placing people in labeled silos.

After see all your pictures Hawk I wonder if you would enjoy one of Miami Compainion's latin escorts. I found one last year ironically because someone posted a message for you about her. She was Columbian but I think ran into some trouble out in KOP.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]That’s basically it.

On the streets I use the picture taking request as a ploy. A way of getting to see what a SW has before I commit myself. I’ve been doing it so long that it’s gotten to be fun. Even the girls have gotten to like doing it. Now that I’ve gotten into it, I’d hate to stop.

I would love the opportunity to photography a real pro; a girl who shows up with the proper make-up and outfits. I guess my question is how hard is it to get these girls to pose? What’s the additional cost?

CookyJar[/QUOTE]
Each girl is different . Once you have established some kind of relationship with the girl. I think the idea of having their pics taken becomes more palatable. Most high end girls are not open to the idea especially since they are charging you by the hr. I am sure those that are cool with pic taking would be happy to use up some of your paid fun time with you taking pics of her.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Hawk,

Please tell me you have a picture of this girl. She may be an old pal of mine. If it is the same girl, I sure appreciate contact info.

CookyJar[/QUOTE]

I have some pics on my office computer but Jayla chooses not have her face exposed on the net.I will have to respect her wishes.

FTR Jayla is originally from DC/MD area and has only very recently re-located to the Philly area.

[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk]I have some pics on my office computer but Jayla chooses not have her face exposed on the net.I will have to respect her wishes.

FTR Jayla is originally from DC/MD area and has only very recently re-located to the Philly area.[/QUOTE]

We are ole buddies from my DC days. If you have contact with her, tell her CookyJar asked about her. Tell her I'd like to take her to lunch sometime.

Here are a few from my Miss Moore collection. Some are from way back when she was Sasha Moore.

She is a real classy, sophisticated girl.

CookyJar