EMP (European Massage Parlor) Reports

[QUOTE=XabiAlonso;2364059]I booked a second appointment with her. Her outfit was yoga pants and a nice top so tight it showed off the lines of her bra. The same thing happened as the first session except this next time she played. I was able to see and taste her mountains. I was able to see her G string and touch her ass by lowering her yoga. I guided her hands to my thighs and she started with ball play followed by a nice stroke. I'm leaving out details on purpose. My only point was to let you know that it took two visits to have safe normal adult fun. She gives an incredible massage and for me is one of the best looking Ukranian therapists. She is nice but you have to make her at ease. You have to talk nice to her, compliment her, tell her about yourself etc. You don't do this all at once in a forced way. I got what I was looking for in two visits. If I spend more time (and more money), I know this would lead to more. But this hobby we choose is a drug. I could easily spend my money on this girl who really could give a rats ass about me. The experience in this post and the last post is about money. My money leaving my pocket and entering her purse. I'd rather tug myself or spend my money on my girlfriend than waste it on a rub and tug. I would have never seen this girl nor known about her until a fellow reporter (from the site. A friend!) on this site sent me a personal message to ask about her. When my girl friend left for Russia in Dec, I decided to give this girl a try and enjoyed both visits. I'm never going to return. This gal makes tons of cash and uses her beauty to gain your money. If you decide to go one more time and do not get standard finish, never go back. Don't waste your money on them. Waste it on yourself!! Over the years, I developed so much experience in this hobby that it's easy to figure out who and who will not provide standard finish. There are hints in ads, there are reviews posted when you search on the phone number etc. There are non verbal signs (as discussed in my posts) that let the therapist know what you are there for. This therapist has a boyfriend and she still provides standard finish. So it indicates what kind of person I am dealing with. Wait a minute, I just cheated on my girl by visiting a therapist, what kind of person am I? All in fun gents. Good luck, Xabi.[/QUOTE]Xabi what did you tip with the?

Do you think its worth it?

[QUOTE=XabiAlonso;2364059]I booked a second appointment with her. Her outfit was yoga pants and a nice top so tight it showed off the lines of her bra. The same thing happened as the first session except this next time she played. I was able to see and taste her mountains. I was able to see her G string and touch her ass by lowering her yoga. I guided her hands to my thighs and she started with ball play followed by a nice stroke. I'm leaving out details on purpose. My only point was to let you know that it took two visits to have safe normal adult fun. She gives an incredible massage and for me is one of the best looking Ukranian therapists. She is nice but you have to make her at ease. You have to talk nice to her, compliment her, tell her about yourself etc. You don't do this all at once in a forced way. I got what I was looking for in two visits. If I spend more time (and more money), I know this would lead to more. But this hobby we choose is a drug. I could easily spend my money on this girl who really could give a rats ass about me. The experience in this post and the last post is about money. My money leaving my pocket and entering her purse. I'd rather tug myself or spend my money on my girlfriend than waste it on a rub and tug. I would have never seen this girl nor known about her until a fellow reporter (from the site. A friend!) on this site sent me a personal message to ask about her. When my girl friend left for Russia in Dec, I decided to give this girl a try and enjoyed both visits. I'm never going to return. This gal makes tons of cash and uses her beauty to gain your money. If you decide to go one more time and do not get standard finish, never go back. Don't waste your money on them. Waste it on yourself!! Over the years, I developed so much experience in this hobby that it's easy to figure out who and who will not provide standard finish. There are hints in ads, there are reviews posted when you search on the phone number etc. There are non verbal signs (as discussed in my posts) that let the therapist know what you are there for. This therapist has a boyfriend and she still provides standard finish. So it indicates what kind of person I am dealing with. Wait a minute, I just cheated on my girl by visiting a therapist, what kind of person am I? All in fun gents. Good luck, Xabi.[/QUOTE]Interesting post. I actually met Diana through a popular dating site, a few years ago. Went out a few times, but it didn't really go anywhere. She's looking to hook a serious sugar daddy. We hooked up a couple times after that. She's really hot and very nice to talk to, but she's pretty cold and calculating underneath. I did see her as a massage client when she was in her old location. It was nothing but a legit massage.

Just wanted to say thanks to all you guys sharing in this thread. I'm tiring of the AMP scene but haven't made the jump to an escort service mostly due to privacy concerns with using a service like RS or 411 (need to get a 2nd cell phone, etc). I'm ok w / HE only. I'd rather have a limited menu with a good / great massage and a nice looking girl.

I've been to GH a few times. All but once w / Natalie. She's not the hottest, but her top is such a great feature that it offsets the rest of her being average. My biggest gripe with her is her massage. It sucks.

I stick around the Roselle area but will head out near Mt. Prospect at times. If there's a provider w / at least Natalie's looks that knows how to give an actual massage I'd be there twice a month. Still feels like I'm trying to find a unicorn, though.

[QUOTE=Plymkr;2365046]Xabi what did you tip with the?

Do you think its worth it?[/QUOTE]I noticed that many of the responses to my post were from members with less than 20 posts. Methinks that she may have people post that it's legit massage. Who knows maybe I'm acting like paranoid Rob Lowe from Comcast commercials. Anywhoo, I tipped an amount that I can afford and also set me up for future visits. However, the only thing is that I won't be seeing her for future visits. I got what I wanted in the first few visits to know enough about her. She is worth the money because the massage was very good, she is very attractive and had a very nice pleasant personality. I've met woman like her in the past and she has one thing in mind, cash. This is a big turn off. So far 2 people with small amount of posts said they were denied and that it's legit massage. I've seen the same thing happen with M spa. People post that the place is legit. Take it from me, M spa and this girl are not 100% legit. About the tip, just think about it. If you tip 10 dollars, your not setting yourself up for future visits. If you tip 30 dollars, sure that is a very reasonable tip but will it provide you with getting your needs met?

[QUOTE=Beefer99;2365058]Interesting post. I actually met Diana through a popular dating site, a few years ago. Went out a few times, but it didn't really go anywhere. She's looking to hook a serious sugar daddy. We hooked up a couple times after that. She's really hot and very nice to talk to, but she's pretty cold and calculating underneath. I did see her as a massage client when she was in her old location. It was nothing but a legit massage.[/QUOTE]Although you have 2 posts, I can confirm that she was on dating sites (e-harmony) in the past. She's currently dating a Spanish speaking man. Imagine that relationship, poor guy. She doesn't need a sugar daddy though. She owns a business that rents in the building of a famous hair salon. She rents the room to her relative and two other pretty Euro's. She gets paid cash for her massage. She is successful as an esthetician as well. If you see how she looks in person, it's easy for her to get her needs met. When it comes to legit massage, what legit massage therapist posts in back page and craigslist? What legit massage therapist uses sexy photo's of herself in silk pink shirt / black skirt, or tight jeans and small jacket to show off her boobs? What legit massage therapist states in the ad that they are a pretty Russian? The point I am making is that legit massage therapists provide credentials over photo's of their body and description of their looks. She definitely has a license and also provides a professional massage. If you send her the signals and do it with class, she will have fun. The reason has to do with cash (which confirms your comment about "calculating underneath"). I will say that if I went on a few dates with a therapist and we didn't click, then I would never expect anything other than a legit massage from her. The reason is because she would not want to tease me emotionally. Xabi

[QUOTE=Bob521;2364082]Agree 1000% with you. The multiple visits, the compliments, the hints, the relationship status of the woman. I think is takes waaaay more skill and patience with an EMP than an AMP. Particularly Korean. One of my hints (first visit) at a Korean place, I tossed 3 condoms on the table and said "I want to fuck you. " And we did. At an EMP, I probably would have been kicked out, arrested, or had the shit kicked out of me. Period. Bob.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the comments BobFiveTwoOne. AMP are all too easy. There is absolutely no skill needed to get standard finish at any AMP. This in itself made the experience for me boring. When I use to frequent AMP, I was never denied. I will say that almost all the AMP that I visited in the past had very polite girls who wanted to make small money and make sure you left happy. They would do the small things like tie your shoes, put your shirt on, compliment you. They would do this for such a small amount of tip. The ones I use to see tried to provide a nice massage and also some sensual harmless fun. Many of them lived in the place they worked. This is sad because it kind of makes me think they are sent her to the US to make money then go back home to pay someone. This is not something to be proud of. I comment on this because AMP had very pleasant girls (whether they are old, young, not so good looking) that tried hard. In contrast, the EMP girls are cold. Their face (to me) always looks stone cold, scared or indifferent. The EMP girls I've seen in the past were all pretty. They'd dress outstanding, smell nice and also provide a quality massage. Many of the ones that I remember in the past were married and unfaithful. At the end of the massage, the EMP's just leave and wait at the front desk in hopes of a 40 dollar or more tip. Good Luck, Xabi.

I think you put your finger on it. Personally I prefer the Chinese girls. Each one has a story, as you say. One woman was working here to pay off her husband's gambling debts. Quite a few are divorced or going though a divorce. I (mostly) prefer the "non-pros" working at legit places because they have some level of genuine personality left and because they are not simply selling sex. I simply like them as people. Take them to lunch. Shopping (their money, not mine). They cook me lunch. Buy each other presents. Just nice caring people. So when we have a physical relationship, it is much more sensual and enjoyable. Bob.

[QUOTE=XabiAlonso;2365471]Thanks for the comments BobFiveTwoOne. AMP are all too easy. There is absolutely no skill needed to get standard finish at any AMP. This in itself made the experience for me boring. When I use to frequent AMP, I was never denied. I will say that almost all the AMP that I visited in the past had very polite girls who wanted to make small money and make sure you left happy. They would do the small things like tie your shoes, put your shirt on, compliment you. They would do this for such a small amount of tip. The ones I use to see tried to provide a nice massage and also some sensual harmless fun. Many of them lived in the place they worked. This is sad because it kind of makes me think they are sent her to the US to make money then go back home to pay someone. This is not something to be proud of. I comment on this because AMP had very pleasant girls (whether they are old, young, not so good looking) that tried hard. In contrast, the EMP girls are cold. Their face (to me) always looks stone cold, scared or indifferent. The EMP girls I've seen in the past were all pretty. They'd dress outstanding, smell nice and also provide a quality massage. Many of the ones that I remember in the past were married and unfaithful. At the end of the massage, the EMP's just leave and wait at the front desk in hopes of a 40 dollar or more tip. Good Luck, Xabi.[/QUOTE]

I've seen this place a few times and actually had an appointment before readung these posts. I netted Julia older Polish woman ok shape but not really attractive. Very good massage the best I had in a while. She also does body wraps and other spa services. Seems very knowledgable. So are other therapists available during the week as well or only Sunday.

[QUOTE=Silvio;2365921]I've seen this place a few times and actually had an appointment before readung these posts. I netted Julia older Polish woman ok shape but not really attractive. Very good massage the best I had in a while. She also does body wraps and other spa services. Seems very knowledgable. So are other therapists available during the week as well or only Sunday.[/QUOTE]Trend (z) is closed on Sundays. Silvio you've been on this site a long time and have a significant contribution of posts. If there is anyone on this site who can provide details on this place, it would be you. If you did not get anything with Yulia, there probably is nothing more to say about this place in my opinion. I never visited this place nor intend to. I was only throwing it out as an observation. I can confirm that Karolina does not work here. She's still at M. For those of you who would like to see how she looks, check out the latest ads in back page and you will see her in a pink shirt. From what I remember, a very nice person. Silvio. Good to see you are still posting on this site.

[QUOTE=XabiAlonso;2364039]It would be helpful if you provide more information. This would allow me to try to help you. Essentially here is how my experience went down. I'm putting it out here to help newbies. Last year I booked the appointment using text. I set up an appointment for the next day. In my text, all I said was that I would like to book an appointment for a one hour session at a specific time. She responded back within two hours letting me know she was available. The next day I met at the spa. It's located within a large hair salon. The room is located in the basement and far away from a possibility of LE breaking in, running down the stairs, zooming past the hallway eventually arriving at a closed door massage room. The room is far away from any possibility of hair patrons on the first floor knowing what's going on down below. The guided me to the room. She was wearing a long coat, yoga pants, boots, and hair was up. She looked sexy. She told me to go in the room and get undressed to my comfort level. This is odd for me to hear but gave me a sign that she didn't care if I was nude. She left the room. I got undressed and stayed under covers but with my ass crack slightly showing. She came, took off her sports jacket. I heard the unzip and when I looked back, I noticed her large cans popping out of her "wife beater" shirt and her slim waist in those tight fitting yoga pants. She is showing off her body! She dimmed the lights and asked what pressure I wanted. I always say soft. This is a small sign to them that I am there for fun. It was a professional massage. She draped me good and I asked her if it was needed. She said yes. So I thought I'd just enjoy the rub from a freaking hot girl. She massaged my thighs and I was already aroused. I spread my legs as she was so close up high. She grazed the boys and this is her sign to me that she is not 100% legit. I spread my legs and arched my back to let her know I enjoyed it. I even guided her hands under my thighs and she was getting very close. Fast forward to the flip. I asked her if the sheet was needed and she still said yes. So she starts massaging my upper thighs and I just watch her and show her I'm enjoying it with my hard on. When she went to get more oil from the jar, I purposely removed the sheet so I was exposed. She had no problem with this. If she was legit, this would not happen and the therapist would kick me out. She massaged more and then got close to my waist. This is where I placed my hand on her back and rubbed her. I then made my way down to her butt and kept rubbing. If she was legit, this would not happen and she would have kicked me out. Fast forward more, she saw I was enjoying it so I took matters into my own hands and started rubbing while grabbing her ass. Yes I self served. I'll spare you the other things and say the first session was self service and touching. My second visit was better which I will continue on a different post.[/QUOTE]Good post Xabi. I too appreciate an attractive gal that can give a quality massage- not just a lame back scratch. Unfortunately, my usual gal from 7th Heaven rarely works now. The other gals on the ad look pretty good too. Are you sure they they wouldn't provide similar experience to Diana's? Feel free to pm if you'd rather.

[QUOTE=Kellster;2366236]Good post Xabi. I too appreciate an attractive gal that can give a quality massage- not just a lame back scratch. Unfortunately, my usual gal from 7th Heaven rarely works now. The other gals on the ad look pretty good too. Are you sure they they wouldn't provide similar experience to Diana's? Feel free to pm if you'd rather.[/QUOTE]The girl in the pink pants (name starts with L) might. She also advertises independently and you will see her location is wicker park. She's wearing a zipped hoodie where the zip is slightly pulled down. The blonde one (starts with O), I'm not sure. The ad did say she does outcalls and outcalls is a usual sign for a great ending. There is one other older girl who is wearing glasses and fully clothed in the ad (around a bouquet of flowers). Her rates are low like 60 dollars. Not sure about her. Usually the ones who are not as pretty definitely work harder for that good tip. Kellster I am not in this sport anymore. So, unfortunately I'm providing guesses. Based on a conversation I had she mentioned that no one else knows about what she does behind the closed door. With that said, I'm thinking 2 out of the 3 are not going to make you satisfied whereas pink pants might based on some really sexy photos on the internet. If you decide to go, see the. You do not have to ask directly for the finish. Never. All you have to do is show the basic signs and self serve to get the ball rolling. I started to post about two places and then others started to comment they've been there. If only the same individuals can provide more basic information about their experiences, it would help others like yourself decide if you should spend your money and time on this one. So far, it looks like I am the only one who had fun. It's definitely not my looks that allowed me to have fun. Let me give a little more info. The location is about a block and half away from Merch. Mart. You walk down to the basement and notice the black and white checkered boxes on the floor. The room is small, there is a couch near the door. There are hooks above the couch for your clothes. Directly across the couch is a small sink and bottles of lotion on the desk top. I saw toilet paper on the ledge and really why have toilet paper on the ledge if you are not going to the washroom. Theres a small cd player on the ledge as well. The table is heated and it perfectly kept. There are white sheets and a small rolled pillow to place your feet on. The room is really small so she has to get close to you when she's massaging your thighs, stomach etc. It's a nice opportunity to see her up close. If you want to see some older photos of her still on the net from older ads, type in her number directly in google in this format xxx-xxx-xxxx and press enter. Good Luck and sorry I could not be more helpful. Xabi.

[QUOTE=XabiAlonso;2366404]The girl in the pink pants (name starts with L) might. She also advertises independently and you will see her location is wicker park. She's wearing a zipped hoodie where the zip is slightly pulled down. The blonde one (starts with O), I'm not sure. The ad did say she does outcalls and outcalls is a usual sign for a great ending. There is one other older girl who is wearing glasses and fully clothed in the ad (around a bouquet of flowers). Her rates are low like 60 dollars. Not sure about her. Usually the ones who are not as pretty definitely work harder for that good tip. Kellster I am not in this sport anymore. So, unfortunately I'm providing guesses. Based on a conversation I had she mentioned that no one else knows about what she does behind the closed door. With that said, I'm thinking 2 out of the 3 are not going to make you satisfied whereas pink pants might based on some really sexy photos on the internet. If you decide to go, see the. You do not have to ask directly for the finish. Never. All you have to do is show the basic signs and self serve to get the ball rolling. I started to post about two places and then others started to comment they've been there. If only the same individuals can provide more basic information about their experiences, it would help others like yourself decide if you should spend your money and time on this one. So far, it looks like I am the only one who had fun. It's definitely not my looks that allowed me to have fun. Let me give a little more info. The location is about a block and half away from Merch. Mart. You walk down to the basement and notice the black and white checkered boxes on the floor. The room is small, there is a couch near the door. There are hooks above the couch for your clothes. Directly across the couch is a small sink and bottles of lotion on the desk top. I saw toilet paper on the ledge and really why have toilet paper on the ledge if you are not going to the washroom. Theres a small cd player on the ledge as well. The table is heated and it perfectly kept. There are white sheets and a small rolled pillow to place your feet on. The room is really small so she has to get close to you when she's massaging your thighs, stomach etc. It's a nice opportunity to see her up close. If you want to see some older photos of her still on the net from older ads, type in her number directly in google in this format xxx-xxx-xxxx and press enter. Good Luck and sorry I could not be more helpful. Xabi.[/QUOTE]No worries Xabi- I appreciate the info. I usually don't head downtown very often- especially when it's like -20 outside. I'm not into self service- but will do the other stuff as a first timer. I might try them once or twice if they can give a good massage- although there are others higher up on my try out list. Might check them out once the weather warms up.

While I fear all this chatter will cause her to retreat from offering extras, I will agree with Xabi. It is all about money, but you are paying for a very specific sensual and cultural experience. I choose the Euro girls over the Asians for this reason alone. For D, I tipped generously for my initial self-serve, to pay my future dues and to let her know I was serious about following-up. If this turns away those looking for an easy catch, so be it. I'd rather be honest and open on the boards about this, than wait for her to be deluged by new members (or worse) looking for an easy score. I will also agree with Xabi. I've been doing this for 15 years. I'm bored with easy.

[QUOTE=Kellster;2366236]...Unfortunately, my usual gal from 7th Heaven rarely works now. The other gals on the ad look pretty good too. Are you sure they they wouldn't provide similar experience to....[/QUOTE]Kellster: Was your usual gal Veronika? I've tried scheduling with her, but she rarely makes herself available. In fact, I haven't seen her in years, but she was always lean and pretty. I'd expect that she'd age well.

As far as the other girls, I think it's an experience closer to the Heavenly Bodies chain of salons. Decent massage by an attractive Euro, but that's all anyone will get. Money or not.

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2367081]Kellster: Was your usual gal Veronika? I've tried scheduling with her, but she rarely makes herself available. In fact, I haven't seen her in years, but she was always lean and pretty. I'd expect that she'd age well.

As far as the other girls, I think it's an experience closer to the Heavenly Bodies chain of salons. Decent massage by an attractive Euro, but that's all anyone will get. Money or not.[/QUOTE]Yep that's her. She's gives an excellent massage and is very fit and attractive. Her and Eva were my all time favorites. They did wonders on my back- unlike a lot of these places these days. She told me she is starting another business- (totally different from massage altogether) so she is focusing on that. I'm not even sure if she still lives in the area. That's probably why Anna returned- to take her place.

I'm assuming you mean Heavenly Massage chain instead of heavenly Bodies. If Heavenly Bodies had a chain of salons I'd have tried them haha!