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[QUOTE=Arianabp;7504075]Say if I'm interested in a girl at an extra / non-extra club, and I want to see her outside. Offering which one do you think would have a higher success rate? (sugar date = dinner + fun activity + intimate time.

Escort = intimate time).

Any other general advice on how to make this happen?

How to propose? (Text vs after in-person after purchase).

Price offer vs asking her for price?

How to set the price? Say she charges 200 for FS or a non-extra girl at Vu.

Thanks in advance for all the inputs.[/QUOTE]Generally girls dance at non-extras clubs for a reason. If she wanted to do extras she would dance at an extras club.

[QUOTE=Nick6789;7504626]Generally girls dance at non-extras clubs for a reason. If she wanted to do extras she would dance at an extras club.[/QUOTE]

This is a great point and I want to add to it...

Girls at non-extras clubs who have no pimp will usually be happy to see you for $500 or $1000 OTC, if they open to that type of activity.

Any girl you are getting FS from in an extras club for $150 to $300 has a pimp. Many of the girls above that price range still have a pimp. Whether they are a 2 or a 10, they have a pimp. The lower prices means that team is stacking on volume. They are usually brought to an extras club by a pimp to begin with, or are recruited by a pimp's bottom girl. They hide this well in the clubs and in social media. Usually a single pimp has several girls in a club, or girls at multiple clubs.

If you are a newbie and find this shocking, or even a veteran monger and did not realize it, it's a reality in Detroit. Usually dancers don't even know who other dancer's pimps are.

I say all this to make one point. Pimps decide if their girls can do OTC or not, not your charm or game.

[QUOTE=Arianabp;7504075]Say if I'm interested in a girl at an extra / non-extra club, and I want to see her outside. Offering which one do you think would have a higher success rate? (sugar date = dinner + fun activity + intimate time.

Escort = intimate time).

Any other general advice on how to make this happen?

How to propose? (Text vs after in-person after purchase).

Price offer vs asking her for price?

How to set the price? Say she charges 200 for FS or a non-extra girl at Vu.

Thanks in advance for all the inputs.[/QUOTE]Otc requires a lot of time and work, from building rapport, negotiation, booking a hotel if you can't do it home, that requires a lot of planning.

That's not going to work for someone who is a family man with busy work life schedule. I have regulars who wanted to meet otc but I'm just too lazy to book a hotel LOL setting an appointment for me is just PIA also I think it's more thrilling to meet a new girl then doing it after a few drinks.

[QUOTE=Arianabp;7504075]Say if I'm interested in a girl at an extra / non-extra club, and I want to see her outside. Offering which one do you think would have a higher success rate? (sugar date = dinner + fun activity + intimate time.

Escort = intimate time).

Any other general advice on how to make this happen?

How to propose? (Text vs after in-person after purchase).

Price offer vs asking her for price?

How to set the price? Say she charges 200 for FS or a non-extra girl at Vu.

Thanks in advance for all the inputs.[/QUOTE]Speaking from experience, I would keep the action in the club. Unless you've known her for a while and have built up rapport. So many of these girls are into some shady shit that you don't want to bring into your home. And the hotel thing sounds good in theory, but expect to pay more than in the club, and then you've got the cost of the room on top of it. Not to mention, girls are unreliable, so don't expect a reply, and don't be surprised if they blow you off after you already paid for the room. All of these things have happened to me, along with lots of other weird things I don't want get into.

[QUOTE=Lurker1988;7504744]Otc requires a lot of time and work, from building rapport, negotiation, booking a hotel if you can't do it home, that requires a lot of planning.

That's not going to work for someone who is a family man with busy work life schedule. I have regulars who wanted to meet otc but I'm just too lazy to book a hotel LOL setting an appointment for me is just PIA also I think it's more thrilling to meet a new girl then doing it after a few drinks.[/QUOTE]Good post! Very little is to be gained by us guys by meeting OTC, it is in fact the girls who benefit as they make just as much and pay no fees, I get asked to meet OTC the club all the time and after trying it a few times I realized it was not any better of an experience, I think a large part of the OTC experience includes drugs.

Anyone try out a SC Sunday day shift yet since they turned on that schedule? I'm thinking about heading down to watch football today and wanted to know if it would be a worthy stop with decent talent? Tia.

[QUOTE=CakeComa;7505190]Anyone try out a SC Sunday day shift yet since they turned on that schedule? I'm thinking about heading down to watch football today and wanted to know if it would be a worthy stop with decent talent? Tia.[/QUOTE]I was there on a recent Sunday and while there were not more than 8-9 dancers it was very apparent that they were all there to make some money!!

I left pleased.

[QUOTE=CakeComa;7505190]Anyone try out a SC Sunday day shift yet since they turned on that schedule? I'm thinking about heading down to watch football today and wanted to know if it would be a worthy stop with decent talent? Tia.[/QUOTE]This is my new favorite time slot. I just left an hour ago. It started in November. You will see familiar faces on this shift who are normally at BT's, but you get the more chill atmosphere of SC Sundays on the new day shift.

[QUOTE=Arianabp;7504075]Say if I'm interested in a girl at an extra / non-extra club, and I want to see her outside. Offering which one do you think would have a higher success rate? (sugar date = dinner + fun activity + intimate time.

Escort = intimate time).

Any other general advice on how to make this happen?

How to propose? (Text vs after in-person after purchase).

Price offer vs asking her for price?

How to set the price? Say she charges 200 for FS or a non-extra girl at Vu.

Thanks in advance for all the inputs.[/QUOTE]Like others have said, the key is building a rapport with them.

I had a great thing for a long time when I used to live in Novi. There was a dancer at the Landing Strip that I had a lot of fun with. She used to work Sundays, which didn't open until later. She had a boyfriend, which most of them do, so she would tell him that she was going to the mall shopping before she would go to the club. I used to pick her up at the mall and take her to a hotel and fuck her for a couple of hours before her shift and then drop her back off at the mall.

It was a great thing until one time she told me that she and I should date and I asked her why, so she could find someone else to go to the mall with. That was the last time I saw her outside the club.

[QUOTE=DarkTraveler;7505335]This is my new favorite time slot. I just left an hour ago. It started in November. You will see familiar faces on this shift who are normally at BT's, but you get the more chill atmosphere of SC Sundays on the new day shift.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;7505275]I was there on a recent Sunday and while there were not more than 8-9 dancers it was very apparent that they were all there to make some money!! I left pleased.[/QUOTE]I tried it out as well, glad I did. Maybe 10 or so girls. Couple real good options. Couple not so much. I had a good time with a couple new girls. Glad to see another option for Sunday during the day other than BTs. Thanks for the reply's.

[QUOTE=Ezcumezgo80;7505438]Like others have said, the key is building a rapport with them.

I had a great thing for a long time when I used to live in Novi. There was a dancer at the Landing Strip that I had a lot of fun with. She used to work Sundays, which didn't open until later. She had a boyfriend, which most of them do, so she would tell him that she was going to the mall shopping before she would go to the club. I used to pick her up at the mall and take her to a hotel and fuck her for a couple of hours before her shift and then drop her back off at the mall.

It was a great thing until one time she told me that she and I should date and I asked her why, so she could find someone else to go to the mall with. That was the last time I saw her outside the club.[/QUOTE]I concur with all past reports. I'm from Grand Rapids but when I mosey out to the east side for some US12 fun, I make sure I have good connections. Have a current dancer who works at Bogarts, matter of fact, who the first time I banged her in the club, she told me (and I'm sure others) how much she'd love to fuck me in a bed. So now when I know I'm coming there on a weekend like this coming weekend, I'll notify her and I'll meet up with her at her hotel in Belleville and pound the shit out of her a couple times for a good hour and spend the exact same I would at the club. Plus she doesn't have to tip anyone out. But I treat her and all 63 girls I have in my hobby phone with the utmost respect because I want to make sure for a 5 hour round trip that I leave happy every time.

[QUOTE=CakeComa;7505459]I tried it out as well, glad I did. Maybe 10 or so girls. Couple real good options. Couple not so much. I had a good time with a couple new girls. Glad to see another option for Sunday during the day other than BTs. Thanks for the reply's.[/QUOTE]Sunday dayshift at SC is much like Saturday dayshift you may find a dancer from night shift or a different club workin, definitely worth checking out.

[QUOTE=DarkTraveler;7504681]This is a great point and I want to add to it...

Girls at non-extras clubs who have no pimp will usually be happy to see you for $500 or $1000 OTC, if they open to that type of activity.

Any girl you are getting FS from in an extras club for $150 to $300 has a pimp. Many of the girls above that price range still have a pimp. Whether they are a 2 or a 10, they have a pimp. The lower prices means that team is stacking on volume. They are usually brought to an extras club by a pimp to begin with, or are recruited by a pimp's bottom girl. They hide this well in the clubs and in social media. Usually a single pimp has several girls in a club, or girls at multiple clubs.

If you are a newbie and find this shocking, or even a veteran monger and did not realize it, it's a reality in Detroit. Usually dancers don't even know who other dancer's pimps are.

I say all this to make one point. Pimps decide if their girls can do OTC or not, not your charm or game.[/QUOTE]To say "ALL" gals who work at "extras" clubs has a "pimp" is painting way too broad of a brush. If you include the many often deadbeat loser so called "boyfriends" who they support as their "pimps" this ratio increases for sure. There are PLENTY of strippers with no real boyfriends or pimps who work at "extras" clubs as the dynamics of working in this industry make meaningful serious relationships even more complex than they already are.

I glad that others have found some success.

There is no denying that meeting outside-the-club is riskier than inside-the-club. It's also more work than just getting an escort.

Almost every girl that I've seen outside-the-club, I've seen inside-the-club MANY times beforehand and developed a friendly relationship. I assume that they trusted me, and I didn't fear a disappointing outcome with them. A few times it "just kind of happened". It's weird that I would have no problem seeing Escorts that I've never met before, but Strippers required some type of connection first.

I've only felt comfortable bringing HOME 2 strippers for OTC. One lived with her parents, and I even met her father at a party she had. She did NOT have a pimp. The other was a single mom, and I've already been to her house several times and met her kids and roommates. It's unlikely she had a pimp. The only ones she seemed beholden to were her kids.

The other OTC Girls I've seen either at their place or a short stay motel. Did they have pimps? Who knows? If so, it was a non-issue.

Depending on the girl, she may only be open OTC to the equivalent of a "Club Quickie". Here the value of OTC is minimal compared to her performance inside-the-club. I agree, why bother going outside? Other girls may be open to more of a "date" experience. Most (of mine) were somewhere in-between (60-120 minutes and maybe some food time). True story: I took that single mom and her 2 boys to the circus. She was so grateful that afterwards she dropped them off at a friend's house and I spent the night (twice) for no charge.

I guess deep-down I'm an "Escort Guy" and find added-value in a quiet environment with a bed. Why even bother with strippers? I don't know, I guess I'm just "hard wired" to crave them like an addict craves drugs.

I chose my OTC targets wisely (with my big head), and even then, my OTC acceptance rate is nothing to brag about, but I'm happy with the wins, and happy that I asked.

Thinking more about this topic, I acknowledge that OTC would be more desirable for the younger guys than old farts like me. From Arianabp's past posts, I'm guessing he's in his 20's or 30's. He already paid for $500 escorts. I offer him encouragement to use his best judgement and give it a shot if he's interested.

[QUOTE=DarkTraveler;7504681]This is a great point and I want to add to it...

Girls at non-extras clubs who have no pimp will usually be happy to see you for $500 or $1000 OTC, if they open to that type of activity.

Any girl you are getting FS from in an extras club for $150 to $300 has a pimp. Many of the girls above that price range still have a pimp. Whether they are a 2 or a 10, they have a pimp. The lower prices means that team is stacking on volume. They are usually brought to an extras club by a pimp to begin with, or are recruited by a pimp's bottom girl. They hide this well in the clubs and in social media. Usually a single pimp has several girls in a club, or girls at multiple clubs.

If you are a newbie and find this shocking, or even a veteran monger and did not realize it, it's a reality in Detroit. Usually dancers don't even know who other dancer's pimps are.

I say all this to make one point. Pimps decide if their girls can do OTC or not, not your charm or game.[/QUOTE]DT,

I mean you no disrespect and believe your post is true for you.

The following statement is just false for me.

- Any girl you are getting FS from in an extras club for $150 to $300 has a pimp.

While many of the girls I may not know well enough to determine if she has a pimp, I am aware of over 20 girls I have gotten to know well and am believe with certainty they do not have pimps.

MM.