Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Darknight4791;7174811]That's interesting. My experience with the much older ones like her is the complete opposite. They complain a lot, get irritated quickly if you don't pop in 5 to 10 minutes and tries to force a switch to HJ, don't like to accommodate multiple positions, etc. Guess my luck with them is terrible. Oh well, we can't all have Bill's luck. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have had things like that happen with both older and younger ones, but the last few older ones I've been surprised by the service, just been lucky I guess, I find the ones in the 35-45 range in AMP and escorts the better ones, I did have a very good experience with cece at new rose, for a younger chick she was great!

[QUOTE=Darknight4791;7175059]I see. But the catalyst for this discussion is at least in her 60's. Having spent a lot of time in Asia, I'm pretty good at determining age unlike most westerners, which I used to struggle with as well. Trust me, it's a gift and a curse. I agree that the age range you mentioned can be a sweet spot, especially for good AMP massages. However, I've had excellent experiences with providers in their 20's and early 30's both internationally and in the US. The younger ones tend to be better at accommodating western characteristics, although they here are always excepts and nothing is absolute. LOL.[/QUOTE]60+ is definitely in the "much older" category that I tend to pass on. I got into the hobby to achieve a level of quantity and quality that my looks and personality couldn't provide. I have never been desperate enough to go for grannies.

I agree there are exceptions to all the rules and yes definitely hard to accurately determine age at times. I like to think I have gotten fairly good at judging but who knows. In the end if the consumer is happy with their purchase that's all that matters. My comments about relativity and ambiguity in terms was more aimed at how well we understand each others reviews. Hot for me might be average for someone else. Unless you know me well enough to understand my metrics that could lead some astray

[QUOTE=Pmil202;7175377]I have had things like that happen with both older and younger ones, but the last few older ones I've been surprised by the service, just been lucky I guess, I find the ones in the 35-45 range in AMP and escorts the better ones, I did have a very good experience with cece at new rose, for a younger chick she was great![/QUOTE]Lisa is good as well. I found negotiating with Cece wasn't very easy.

[QUOTE=BillRose;7172812]Was there a couple weeks back and I seen the report about the spinner and I assumed it was the one I had seen so I went back and it is indeed a different girl even more so a spinner type way too thin for me. I have to say this is one of the very few times I felt bad about getting action with one of these girls she's young like probably barely 21 I didn't notice at first because she was wearing a big winter coat she started the massage I wasn't into it so I flipped she asked what I wanted I said fuck told her how much I had she wanted more I said that's all I brought which it was she agreed started the handy she put the cover on jumped on top I found her to be very mechanical I pulled out to change positions and went to put it back in doggy she stopped me put her dress on and left I thought um what? Took her a few minutes and I was losing some stream because I didn't know what happened she came back with a new condom and said can't reuse I don't know why it was only inside her so I'm completely out of the mood she starts a handy then puts the new cover on I touched it because it was rolling weird she said no now we need a new one because I touched it she put her dress on and left again by the time she got back I was half soft she said I'll give you 40 back I was pissed I said no ill want 60 back she started a handy got me hard then put the cover on I made sure not to touch it she put it in doggy and kept sliding away while holding my cock I could tell she wasn't into this at all and I was taking a lot longer than she thought I would so I pulled the cover off and started a diy she kept putting her hands in front of me while I was diy-ing and blocking me from working up a finish I got pissed and said what the hell is going on she said I don't want it on me at that point I just stopped and I said why are you here? Why are you doing this? She said " because I have to" I said why? She said " because my parent has cancer" and the way she said it and the way she looked at me I completely believed her and my stomach sank. Maybe I'm getting soft but fuck. I didn't ask for any cash back.[/QUOTE]First off all, Bill, you are a wealth of knowledge on here and I appreciate all of your contributions, including this one. But I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one or chalk it up to a YMMV. One thing is for sure about these girls is they can be damn good little actresses. I think she might have got ya. My experience with her was phenominal. She is as you described, a young, tiny, spinner. Maybe I was blinded a bit because that is just my type. She did start with her hand there but as we eased into it she let go. She's so small and tight and I'm not that big. I'm guessing she's fearful of pain. Once we got going we hit all the positions you can think of, even some those less flexible wouldn't be able to. There was no switching the bag at all. She was happy, cheerful, and one of the best I've had in the hobby. I will say, she was a good actress for me too because I know I'm not as good as her sounds were making me seem.

[QUOTE=Wormzer93;7178074]First off all, Bill, you are a wealth of knowledge on here and I appreciate all of your contributions, including this one. But I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one or chalk it up to a YMMV. One thing is for sure about these girls is they can be damn good little actresses. I think she might have got ya. My experience with her was phenominal. She is as you described, a young, tiny, spinner. Maybe I was blinded a bit because that is just my type. She did start with her hand there but as we eased into it she let go. She's so small and tight and I'm not that big. I'm guessing she's fearful of pain. Once we got going we hit all the positions you can think of, even some those less flexible wouldn't be able to. There was no switching the bag at all. She was happy, cheerful, and one of the best I've had in the hobby. I will say, she was a good actress for me too because I know I'm not as good as her sounds were making me seem.[/QUOTE]I respect your opinion truly. It's well known I'm a street hunter and have personally known and dealt with the hardest of drug users over the last 30 odd years around multiple states and cities that could cry on command or win an academy award giving a tear jerking performance and 95% of the time I wouldn't look down if they told me my feet were on fire. Maybe she's the best actress in the world or maybe I caught her at the end of a long hard day and she couldn't deal with me at the moment idk but she didn't try to convince me of anything it was the way she told me almost like she was defeated and even offered me money back I think those things combined is what hit me in the feels because the fake heartless ones would never give up money but Idk I'll admit I've been wrong before. I have to go back to the streets to get my edge back LOL.

[QUOTE=BigJohn619;7174931]She's lying. Mary went back to see family in China on Jan 15th. She'll be back Feb 15th. Saw her a day or 2 before she left.[/QUOTE]This is good news the old bird lied to me saying Mary moved back to Chicago and won't be back I'm guessing more than a few of us asked her where she went LOL.

[QUOTE=BillRose;7178294]I respect your opinion truly. It's well known I'm a street hunter and have personally known and dealt with the hardest of drug users over the last 30 odd years around multiple states and cities that could cry on command or win an academy award giving a tear jerking performance and 95% of the time I wouldn't look down if they told me my feet were on fire. Maybe she's the best actress in the world or maybe I caught her at the end of a long hard day and she couldn't deal with me at the moment idk but she didn't try to convince me of anything it was the way she told me almost like she was defeated and even offered me money back I think those things combined is what hit me in the feels because the fake heartless ones would never give up money but Idk I'll admit I've been wrong before. I have to go back to the streets to get my edge back LOL.[/QUOTE]I think you likely nailed it here. Probably a bad night that had her feeling defeated and maybe I followed some huge tipper.

All these girls have been through some trauma to get them into this. Hers is more recent since she's young. We all lose parents too, hopefully what she makes here can provide them some time.

[QUOTE=BillRose;7178294]I respect your opinion truly. It's well known I'm a street hunter and have personally known and dealt with the hardest of drug users over the last 30 odd years around multiple states and cities that could cry on command or win an academy award giving a tear jerking performance and 95% of the time I wouldn't look down if they told me my feet were on fire. Maybe she's the best actress in the world or maybe I caught her at the end of a long hard day and she couldn't deal with me at the moment idk but she didn't try to convince me of anything it was the way she told me almost like she was defeated and even offered me money back I think those things combined is what hit me in the feels because the fake heartless ones would never give up money but Idk I'll admit I've been wrong before. I have to go back to the streets to get my edge back LOL.[/QUOTE]Bill, you have decades of experience and a sharp instinct resulting from countless encounters LOL. No need to start doubting yourself at this point. Leave that to the less traveled. It is important to remember that providers are people with real lives just like the rest of us; only with a different source of income and one of the world's oldest sources by the way. They are not clones or avatars incapable genuine emotion and feeling. Yes, there are some deserving of Oscar nominations and I fully acknowledge it, but I caution anyone that assumes everything is an act. Just my two cents.

I am new to the area and have read all reviews covering the last year. Great info guys. Can anybody help me with some current reviews of good spots near Bettendorf? I moved here from Madison Wisconsin if you would like any info about that area. Thanks much.

On top of this she is the only girl currently working there and works 7 days a week. So she likely feels burnout from time to time. I don't think she's new to the industry, she said she was in Chicago previously, but maybe they have a higher standard of girls there and she wasn't as busy as she is now being a really cute girl in an area that tends to have older MTs. That and being the only MT there, I'm sure she's doing well $ wise but sheesh, that can't be easy even for just a few months.

[QUOTE=Wormzer93;7178358]I think you likely nailed it here. Probably a bad night that had her feeling defeated and maybe I followed some huge tipper.

All these girls have been through some trauma to get them into this. Hers is more recent since she's young. We all lose parents too, hopefully what she makes here can provide them some time.[/QUOTE]

Stopped by Dolphin the other day. First time there (I've only been in the hobby for a few months after lurking / learning about it for a year or so).

I've been to 4-5 places in QC but most seem to have one person working, maybe because I try to go at off-peak times LOL. I haven't really encountered a MMS but this lady gave off that vibe. Older, but still in good shape, probably really cute 20 years ago haha. Only did hhr and kind of progressed into extras without any discussion and she never discussed tip, which was a first for me. After L3 I gave her. 8 which was all I brought and was thinking I'd get a negative reaction, but hey, we never even talked tip beforehand, but she seemed perfectly happy with it and gave me like 7 hugs LOL. Kept saying I was handsome which I usually think is MTs glazing you since they're working for tips but her lack of concern about talking business and tip amount made me wonder if with the presence of younger and prettier girls if she was happy to have an enthusiastic customer LOL. Sweet lady overall and if you could somehow combine her with the looks of some of these younger MTs she'd be perfect.

Massage was pretty short (why I generally always go for full hour) but she was decent enough at it. Said her name was Amy. Couldn't tell if anyone else was working but there were two cars outside and I thought I heard her talk to someone before I left. Anyone know if any other girls work at Dolphin these days?

[QUOTE=Moonshine9;7181870]Stopped by Dolphin the other day. First time there (I've only been in the hobby for a few months after lurking / learning about it for a year or so).

I've been to 4-5 places in QC but most seem to have one person working, maybe because I try to go at off-peak times LOL. I haven't really encountered a MMS but this lady gave off that vibe. Older, but still in good shape, probably really cute 20 years ago haha. Only did hhr and kind of progressed into extras without any discussion and she never discussed tip, which was a first for me. After L3 I gave her. 8 which was all I brought and was thinking I'd get a negative reaction, but hey, we never even talked tip beforehand, but she seemed perfectly happy with it and gave me like 7 hugs LOL. Kept saying I was handsome which I usually think is MTs glazing you since they're working for tips but her lack of concern about talking business and tip amount made me wonder if with the presence of younger and prettier girls if she was happy to have an enthusiastic customer LOL. Sweet lady overall and if you could somehow combine her with the looks of some of these younger MTs she'd be perfect.

Massage was pretty short (why I generally always go for full hour) but she was decent enough at it. Said her name was Amy. Couldn't tell if anyone else was working but there were two cars outside and I thought I heard her talk to someone before I left. Anyone know if any other girls work at Dolphin these days?[/QUOTE]I know they have 2 usually one on standby and one at the place if they get busy she'll call in a girl. I drive by often and see 4 5 even 6 cars jammed in there makes me wonder if they have orgies LOL.

[QUOTE=BillRose;7182133]I know they have 2 usually one on standby and one at the place if they get busy she'll call in a girl. I drive by often and see 4 5 even 6 cars jammed in there makes me wonder if they have orgies LOL.[/QUOTE]I was wondering the same thing! I sometimes see a lot of cars around there in the lot and on the street ill have to stop in there and see what's going on LOL!

After reading Darkknight's review of the new incarnation of spring dream I had it at the top of my to do list for a visit. I had to double check the building number when I got there as I didn't see any signs, not even the generic "massage " sign a lot are using these days. The only sign I saw was the open sign which wasn't on. They must not care to much about advertising since if I hadn't known better I would have assumed it was a abandoned building. My first thought was to just go to plan b but I decided to ring the bell and see what happens. I was a little surprised when a young attractive lady answered the door almost immediately. Even though it was still early evening I have the suspicion she was ready to close up when I rang. I was shown in and as in previous reviews she asked if I wanted "service " within minutes of my arrival. I am used to them being a bit more coy with new customers so if I hadn't been prewarned it probably would have thrown me off a bit. I am normally not one to shed tears if someones bad judgment and lack of caution bites them in the ass but since there is a chance, albiet slight, I might be there when that bite occurs it tends to bother me when they are so forward. My second clue that she was ready to call it a day was that she insisted right off on just a half hour. I typically prefer the whole hour since just a half feels rushed to me. If I have seen a girl before I will often ask for the extras up front before the massage. More often than not it seems my visits are interupted by the phone and / or the doorbell so getting the fun part out of the way early tends to limit the frustration if there is an interruption later. Since she broke the ice early I decided to go that route this time and she agreed. Since she accepted 130 without comment earlier I decided to see what her reaction to 120 would be. Unfortunately that seems to be below her minimum as she countered with 150. Based on recent conversations I have adjusted my tip ceiling to 140 if age, looks, and / or service justify it but I don't want any part of paying 150 or 160 for what equals a non GFE qv. She did bite on 130 though so we were both relatively satisfied. She has a nice figure but sadly she wasn't very enthusiastic. After cleanup she gave a very disappointing massage. The lack of enthusiasm and poor massage were another hint she didn't want to be there. I didn't look at the clock but I am 100 percent sure she shorted me a few minutes but I really didn't care as the massage was bad enough that I was ready to pull the plug myself. All in all I can see the potential for a good time so I will give her another try later but sadly this visit wasn't even close to the glowing review that brought me there.

The next visit was a matter of some debate between a return visit to old rose or a return visit to 41st Street, which I found out is actually called Grace Spa. The girl at old rose is a little bit younger and prettier than the one I saw at grace but the latter is closer to my preference in body type and also has a slight advantage in technique and enthusiasm in my experience so I went with Grace. When I pulled up I saw a lady through the laundry room window. She stepped away quickly when she saw me but I think it was the one I saw on my last visit. When I went in I was greeted by a different lady. This one was a bit older, maybe mid 30s, and not quite as attractive as the other but definitely not bad looking. The new one had lighter brown hair while the one last time and the one in the window has the typical asian jet black hair so I am quite sure it wasn't her I saw in the window. When she greeted me, asked me if I wanted a massage, how long etc the new girl spoke decent english but when I asked about the other girl she suddenly didn't speak a word and would only say "just me" in response. I let the matter go and did the hour since I like a variety. Her massage was ok. Nothing special but decent with a good bit of incidental contact which elevated to teasing when I reciprocated and rubbed her leg and ass. On the flip everything was on the table and price wasn't mentioned. Sadly she was a letdown from the last time and what I went there expecting or at least hoping for. She has decent B cups upstairs but refused to take her bra off and didn't really seem to want them touched. No oral at all offered but she was fairly responsive and enthusiastic for the rest and did a little dirty talk. During the massage I could hear someone else moving around and as I was leaving I again caught a glimpse of the other lady in the little room with the fridge and microwave. Perhaps she is getting ready to rotate out but since they have been open only a short time its also possible this is a two girl shop even though that is a bit of an oddity for this area. If I return I would definitely choose the first over the second but in reality both are acceptable.

Before I get started see broom went to 41st street I got a texted Friday in mexico saying they closed and moved to 3213 ave of cities. So getting back late Saturday night got rested and wanted to try out new place today. Right next to the rage room the place has only open sign nothing else probably trying to stay hidden. 2 girls working both young maybe 25/ tops. Massage wasn't that good I like soft to medium at most she was hard. Flipped anything available but I'm not a fan of covers anymore just ruins me. I'm getting older and little pill doesn't even help with covers. I'm like a rock in morning but not there. (LOL). Bill don't get old. So I just settled for HJ will keep looking. I already miss mexico for a few more pesos bare was ok. The women down there call it a relationship all GFE and more. Feel no cover better with Asians not worried about druggies or crazy with them. I have a few I know it's ok because I have a repore with them but just looking for others.