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MSOG is something that providers usually don't commit to before the appointment because you just might not click well with them.

If they like you and want you to come back they might bend over forward and backwards.

In most cases, I have drilled them down in negotiations so they will probably want to negotiate the price back up another 20 for the second shot.

Brought it here to leave them reviews guys alone LOL. Concerning them msog thing with provider, from my experience of the ones that do allow me to cum up to four times in one hour if I can, rarely have boyfriends lurking around, might have boyfriend, husband, girlfriends in the parking lot smoking in there car or drive off with there car after confirming from the provider that I was not LE and a safe monger, since I normally look too young when they see me in person LOL and I also tend to get a room with cleaning supplies of the body and mouth available. I always have mouth and body cleaning supplies when I meet a female and it works eighty percent of the time with me, just that it did not work with Amber rose, Kamilia in second time meeting her and a couple of females I picked up on the street too LOL.

Anyhow Benz, hopefully them females you posting about would work out good for them gents of all races, as long as they are a gentle man monger in ways, since the under radar ones I do have, tend to cost me one hundred through one hundred and fifty in the long run because of the cost of the room, other then Barbie of Relaxation that cost me two hundred and fifty with me getting BBBJ, BBFS / UCFS twice for ninety minutes price and her shorting me by fifteen minutes as I couldn't bust the second time because of her begging me to please not cum in her LOL.

[QUOTE=BoyBear;3542654]One additional tip is to try all given phone numbers in a Facebook search. You'd be surprised how many providers are tied to Facebook with a listed phone. Now you likely have a real name, a home location, some personal history, etc. To better judge the safety variable. My experience has been that Facebook posters are less likely to be scammers or worse. Unfortunately I can't say better service is also a given. Boybear.[/QUOTE]Also add a BP or other site's link if possible.

I just got back from San Diego, been out there for the last 10 days. I just happened to find my way to the Zona Norte of Tijuana. Spent some time at Adelita Bar and Chicago. For about $75 us or $1,300 pesos you can get a room with some of the hottest mexican women I have ever seen! Nothing like that around here, not on backpage, CL, the street, nothin. There is no MSOG, no GFE. It's get in, handle your business and get out. Go back to the club, drink and then pick out anther and do it all over again. On backpage however, for $300 pesos you can get girls for an hour, not as hot though. But you got to know how to speak the language, deal with the emailing, or manage the phone calls, most of which use whatsapp. It's mostly a hassle to go about it like that unless you're fluent in spanish. Going to the clubs and picking out what you like is the way to go. It's like a buffet.

Take One For The Team Guidelines (update # 3).

Thank you for your input BoyBear and Polish the Turd.

Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on TinEye.

1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching. (Thanks BoyBear).

Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.

Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.

Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.

Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.

A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.

B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.

If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.

C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).

D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.

Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.

Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.

Step 8 : Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.

A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.

B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.

Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.

Step 10: Check every room for safety.

Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.

Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.

12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing. (Thanks Polish The Turd).

These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

Just trying to help.

Fellow Monger Benz1.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3544060]Take One For The Team Guidelines (update # 3).

Thank you for your input BoyBear and Polish the Turd.

Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on TinEye.

1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching. (Thanks BoyBear).

Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.

Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.

Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.

Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.

A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.

B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.

If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.

C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).

D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.

Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.

Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.

Step 8 : Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.

A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.

B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.

Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.

Step 10: Check every room for safety.

Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.

Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.

12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing. (Thanks Polish The Turd).

These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

Just trying to help.

Fellow Monger Benz1.[/QUOTE]No, thank you Benz1. Members on here like you make this forum a success. Hopefully, you saved a monger some trouble by posting that list. I am sure you helped someone out. I am on here everyday reading the posts through out the state. If I ever want to try out a new venue for mongering MP or SW picks, etc. I have some valuable information to help me start out.

What's up with BP? No posts after 9/14/17, other than the front page.

I'm thinking the girls who don't use the 'coins' aren't showing up after they are dropped from the front.

Anybody?

[QUOTE=Girls1;3552327]What's up with BP? No posts after 9/14/17, other than the front page.

I'm thinking the girls who don't use the 'coins' aren't showing up after they are dropped from the front.

Anybody?[/QUOTE]You are correct Girls1

Bitcoin pain, many of them don't have cards to purchase the bitcoin

This is a perfect opportunity to get the good ones signed up with USA, it is currently free to join

I sent The New Crystal an application and she is now a member.

Let's help them become a member and it will help us too.
Copy and paste to your favorite drug free providers

[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/Instructions/Registration.html[/URL]

Yea, a provider told me about that yesterday. I'd imagine some of them are basically done now because they won't have the means or savy to purchase bitcoin. This explains why I have one suddenly texting me with offers when I haven't contacted her in ages.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3552336]You are correct Girls1

Bitcoin pain, many of them don't have cards to purchase the bitcoin

This is a perfect opportunity to get the good ones signed up with USA.

I sent The New Crystal an application and she is now a member.

Let's help them become a member and it will help us too.
Copy and paste to your favorite drug free providers

[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/Instructions/Registration.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger01;3552360]Yea, a provider told me about that yesterday. I'd imagine some of them are basically done now because they won't have the means or savy to purchase bitcoin. This explains why I have one suddenly texting me with offers when I haven't contacted her in ages.[/QUOTE]If they can't figure out how to buy bitcoins, we will have more street walkers in the very near future.

I checked it out and really it's simple. The ones with no bank accounts (I know some that actually have bank accounts) simply buy a Visa gift card and load it on the BP bitcoin page. They don't have to join a bitcoin exchange or anything.

I see more posting now so I'd say they've figured it out.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3552723]If they can't figure out how to buy bitcoins, we will have more street walkers in the very near future.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger01;3553644]I checked it out and really it's simple. The ones with no bank accounts (I know some that actually have bank accounts) simply buy a Visa gift card and load it on the BP bitcoin page. They don't have to join a bitcoin exchange or anything.

I see more posting now so I'd say they've figured it out.[/QUOTE]Or we'll find more of them on Craigslist.

I think that, yes, some will resort to both the street and / or Craig's list. The big problem for them though with that route is NO reviews that way.

A lot of guys won't see a girl who hasn't been reviewed fearing either a bad appt. , mugging / ripoff, or LEO.

Time will tell, but I'm assuming that most will soon 'figure it out' in regards to the coins.

[QUOTE=Stroker417;3553685]Or we'll find more of them on Craigslist.[/QUOTE]

Piemaster posted this in the Ann Arbor forum, and I was wondering about it myself. Anybody with any thoughts on how this could bite us in the ass? I still maintain that just because someone 'visits' a site (I. E. Fb, BP, etc.), or even messages someone and / or texts someone, that doesn't mean that they actually do anything that they shouldn't. Internet is free speech, and we're all just 'dreaming' about actual visits anyway, right?
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Social Media Required.

[QUOTE=Piemaster;3560637]Gentlemen,

I would like to discuss this new social media requirement the girls have, and take a moment for all to reflect the increased risks involved.

I know as a fact Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram all have backdoors Uncle LEO gets into in order to find and identify people, including seeing conversations and links from other website and pages said person visited. Any and all websites that have a link with such report back and log IP addresses. If you have none of the above you have less to worry about as the IP log isn't tied to an account or phone number. Unless you are visiting all these sites and BP with a proxy or VPN you don't eliminate identification with a simple request to your ISP. That isn't even need most of the time as location of an IP is gainable without in many instances. And then Uncle will come knocking.

Today, a "girl" asked me to send her one of the above accounts to "verify" I am a real person. I have no doubt in my mind it was my Uncle LEO trying to trick me again. If you want to know who, I'll send the link or phone number in a PM.

I would like as a result of this post for us to collectively post alternative sites to find our girls; it has become too risky now as they can straight identify.

Piemaster.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with Girls1.

Piemaster has an interesting theory but I don't believe LE has the time and resources to follow and trap us for soliciting sex. LE does put alot of resources into finding drug dealers and trapping them. They could also get a good well known provider to set up drug dealers like Natalie / Bell in Kazoo. Bell was a member of this forum that posted LE's offer right on the Kalamazoo forum. They wanted her to help bust drug dealers. She informed us that she would not take their deal of eliminating charges in exchange for setting people up.
Drugs and underage girls is were LE is focused, our members are at risk everytime we enter a room where drugs or under age girls are being or sold.

If we are going to stay out of the dragnet or snare of LE, we all need to be more observant of our surroundings and report them on USASEXGUIDE for all our members benifit.

Our safety is the reason this forum exsits.

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