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Hey guys. Great community here. I'm from Germany, and work in the adult business. I work for the geeky internet side, and I always see all the little porn stars coming in for AEE. This year I want to stay a couple days extra and see this show first hand. I have read a lot here about regular CG, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be different with the porn girls and amateurs that the AEE show will bring into Las Vegas. I'm staying at a hotel nearby the HRH, so I'm guessing that every hotel within two miles will have a lot of girls working diff areas.

Is there a different strategy for the porn girls? It seems that they would likely want to be more straight forward, and less drama, since they are in a "work environemnt" for conventions?

Just curious what the strategy should be for this. Thanks to you in advance.

[QUOTE=Watson2013;3220871]Hey guys. Great community here. I'm from Germany, and work in the adult business. I work for the geeky internet side, and I always see all the little porn stars coming in for AEE. This year I want to stay a couple days extra and see this show first hand. I have read a lot here about regular CG, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be different with the porn girls and amateurs that the AEE show will bring into Las Vegas. I'm staying at a hotel nearby the HRH, so I'm guessing that every hotel within two miles will have a lot of girls working diff areas.

Is there a different strategy for the porn girls? It seems that they would likely want to be more straight forward, and less drama, since they are in a "work environemnt" for conventions?

Just curious what the strategy should be for this. Thanks to you in advance.[/QUOTE]I don't quite understand your question. If you want to fuck porn stars, amateurs or even ordinary casino hookers it won't be free. They all want to make money and the porn stars will charge the most. You can fuck civilians for free but good luck you are in Las Vegas. Its all about the money.

[QUOTE=CravenMorhead;3221283]I don't quite understand your question. If you want to fuck porn stars, amateurs or even ordinary casino hookers it won't be free. They all want to make money and the porn stars will charge the most. You can fuck civilians for free but good luck you are in Las Vegas. Its all about the money.[/QUOTE]He was asking how to approach the porn pros at the convention, made no mention about wanting freebies from them.

[QUOTE=CravenMorhead;3221283]I don't quite understand your question. If you want to fuck porn stars, amateurs or even ordinary casino hookers it won't be free. They all want to make money and the porn stars will charge the most. You can fuck civilians for free but good luck you are in Las Vegas. Its all about the money.[/QUOTE]Thanks for replying to me.

I definitely understand that they want to get paid, and likely cost more. I can see the P.S. Being less of a ripoff risk as CG? And the convention likely attracts a lot more girls who are new to this thing and want to be a part of the adult bizness. I remember once when I told some CG that I was in the business, she just left and told me I was too smart. Maybe she realised that I was not a mark they could ripoff.

In your experiences do you thing that theres less ripoffs or more given the adult industry in one building for 4 days? Do more amateur girls come to do CG stuff because they know the business is there? I hope I'm being clear, sorry if not so much.

[QUOTE=Dolato;3221372]He was asking how to approach the porn pros at the convention, made no mention about wanting freebies from them.[/QUOTE]Yes, basically should you tell them you are in the business, so they know that you likely know all the scams etc, and it can be a more relaxing time with them?

[QUOTE=Watson2013;3220871]
Is there a different strategy for the porn girls? It seems that they would likely want to be more straight forward, and less drama, since they are in a "work environemnt" for conventions?

Just curious what the strategy should be for this. Thanks to you in advance.[/QUOTE]Are there any specific ones you'd like to meet? If so, then try contacting them via their social media and inquire about "booking" them while you're both in town for the convention. Keep in mind that the actual stars will charge a hefty fee. There are plenty of "stars" as well who thinks doing a couple scenes makes them a big deal, but they'll probably charge the extra vegas convention surcharge. I'd think you can even ask in person if they're available for private bookings after hours, but I'd go with the social media so you can get things set up before getting there.

[QUOTE=Dolato;3221378]Are there any specific ones you'd like to meet? If so, then try contacting them via their social media and inquire about "booking" them while you're both in town for the convention. Keep in mind that the actual stars will charge a hefty fee. There are plenty of "stars" as well who thinks doing a couple scenes makes them a big deal, but they'll probably charge the extra vegas convention surcharge. I'd think you can even ask in person if they're available for private bookings after hours, but I'd go with the social media so you can get things set up before getting there.[/QUOTE]No no. I don't really have a preference, but I just know that late at night the bars there at the hotel are full of girls, and I was always very concerned to be taken advantage of, given that this is not my country, so it's better to ask the etiquette when both the guy and the potential CG are in the same businesses. Maybe they want to know, and it feels more safe, and a better experience for both.

One friend with me told to have a model release and to just make a movie with them but don't use it anywhere. I thought this was funny.

So yes, I'd like to have some fun this trip with a girl from Hard Rock probably, so it will mostly be a spontaneous experience. Maybe some other guy in the industry can give a industry guys guide for this. Thanks for leaving messages so far.

[QUOTE=Watson2013;3221376]Yes, basically should you tell them you are in the business, so they know that you likely know all the scams etc, and it can be a more relaxing time with them?[/QUOTE]Americans and especially American girls, have a thing about accents. If you speak English with any hint of a German accent you automatically come off smarter (and with German more sinister). Probably something to do with the anti-hero archetype in 80's action flicks. Add the fact that you said you're in the biz, she knew she wasnt getting away with an over the pants HJ for 800. That and she thought you and your henchmen were going to kidnap her and hold her for ransom and she doesn't know Bruce Willis so she was out of luck.

[QUOTE=Watson2013;3221374]I can see the P.S. Being less of a ripoff risk as CG? And the convention likely attracts a lot more girls who are new to this thing and want to be a part of the adult bizness. I remember once when I told some CG that I was in the business, she just left and told me I was too smart. Maybe she realised that I was not a mark they could ripoff.

In your experiences do you thing that theres less ripoffs or more given the adult industry in one building for 4 days? Do more amateur girls come to do CG stuff because they know the business is there? I hope I'm being clear, sorry if not so much.[/QUOTE]I don't think they'll be less of a ripoff risk because they're in porn. All of them know how to hustle and most likely have management requiring a quota. The convention, like other large conventions, will attract the hoes from different states trying to cash in. I would really recommend you read through the last 100 pages starting from the oldest to the newest to get an idea of how the CGs operate and how to navigate the world. The experiences, and questions asked / answered will give you a much better idea.

I'm curious, are their hot spots for working girls? I've been to Vegas a few times and have never been approached. Are there any go to places on the strip that will always have girls working? Last time I was there I went to a bar that was supposedly known for it and I didn't notice anyone that seemed like they would be. It's so much simpler in Costa Rica, DR, Colombia. The list goes on. Why does it need to be so hard here? Florida has good MP's but it doesn't seem Vegas is great for that.

[QUOTE=Watson2013;3220871]Hey guys. Great community here. I'm from Germany, and work in the adult business. I work for the geeky internet side, and I always see all the little porn stars coming in for AEE. This year I want to stay a couple days extra and see this show first hand. I have read a lot here about regular CG, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be different with the porn girls and amateurs that the AEE show will bring into Las Vegas. I'm staying at a hotel nearby the HRH, so I'm guessing that every hotel within two miles will have a lot of girls working diff areas.

Is there a different strategy for the porn girls? It seems that they would likely want to be more straight forward, and less drama, since they are in a "work environemnt" for conventions?

Just curious what the strategy should be for this. Thanks to you in advance.[/QUOTE]Not sure which hotel you are staying at but if you need a wingman, send me a PM. I also have a room within walking distance the night of the 17th, primarily for the same reasons as you. Recog mission.

[QUOTE=Watson2013;3221447]No no. I don't really have a preference, but I just know that late at night the bars there at the hotel are full of girls, and I was always very concerned to be taken advantage of, given that this is not my country, so it's better to ask the etiquette when both the guy and the potential CG are in the same businesses. Maybe they want to know, and it feels more safe, and a better experience for both.

One friend with me told to have a model release and to just make a movie with them but don't use it anywhere. I thought this was funny.

So yes, I'd like to have some fun this trip with a girl from Hard Rock probably, so it will mostly be a spontaneous experience. Maybe some other guy in the industry can give a industry guys guide for this. Thanks for leaving messages so far.[/QUOTE]And yes being spontaneous helps too. Be unplanned and impromptu can be your best game plan.

AVN is January 18-21st. A lot of imported casino girls will be in Vegas to mingle with the porn stars at the Hard Rock.

The porn girls are usually booked way in advance and the "stars" command thousands of dollars per one hour session. The wannabes are much cheaper but you have to keep your guard up.

One piece of valuable advice: There are a lot of swingers parties that take place during the AVN convention. Most of those girls look like CG's or worse. Be VERY careful when approaching females there particularly at the Hard Rock. I've seen many a jealous husband or boyfriend get into it with a guy who was a little too forward with his girl.

Hey guys, thanks a lot for all you input.

Yes, I am aware of the whole swingers thing. I don't have any real interest in choosing the big porn girls. I know they are booked. There will be 100's of other girls that are not known, but are certainly looking to supplement on their trips. I'm going to go for it and report back after this trip. For a few different years I did not do anything with girls there. There were some girls who approached me over the years at this show, but I did not want to get ripped off.

I will not do any kind of discussions with any agency girls. Do any CG particpate in agencies, or all are independent?

Sir Dix Alot, I may take you up on that. I'm a total noobie on this.

The Hard Rock will have so many people at nights trying to meet these girls I am sure. Haha.

Thanks to all again. I have read so many pages on this forum. Very helpful for all of you to provide this information.

Look for a large number of girls back in the casinos. Maybe it will be back to the way it used to be. I know a lot of the girls left the CG scene for BP. However, the fact that BP is in effect being shut down by the govt is pure BS.

[QUOTE=Travelforfun;3223712]Look for a large number of girls back in the casinos. Maybe it will be back to the way it used to be. I know a lot of the girls left the CG scene for BP. However, the fact that BP is in effect being shut down by the govt is pure BS.[/QUOTE]There's been a sudden rush of new accounts on hx. I could see the online posters shifting over onto other sites online before hitting the streets / casinos.

[QUOTE=Dolato;3223760]There's been a sudden rush of new accounts on hx. I could see the online posters shifting over onto other sites online before hitting the streets / casinos.[/QUOTE]True, but it will take a while for people to find the other sites. Not so much the people that visit sites like us here, but the Vegas tourist who decides to get a girl off BP but doesn't know the other sites exist. In time it will be back to it was while BP was popular, but there will be a period until some new site becomes the "new BP" that guys know and go to.

[QUOTE=Lotsoffun201;3222233]The porn girls are usually booked way in advance and the "stars" command thousands of dollars per one hour session. The wannabes are much cheaper but you have to keep your guard up.

One piece of valuable advice: There are a lot of swingers parties that take place during the AVN convention. Most of those girls look like CG's or worse. Be VERY careful when approaching females there particularly at the Hard Rock. I've seen many a jealous husband or boyfriend get into it with a guy who was a little too forward with his girl.[/QUOTE]Good point. In Vegas "regular" women will dress like they don't dress at home. It can be easy to mistake them for CG's.

[QUOTE=SirDixAlot;3222161]Not sure which hotel you are staying at but if you need a wingman, send me a PM. I also have a room within walking distance the night of the 17th, primarily for the same reasons as you. Recog mission.[/QUOTE]Old stale fart senior citizen back in chi-town looking to make a little trip to your town shortly. Good reads. You guys are pros!

Wanted to share something funny with you all. So in the preparations of my trip, I was on Tinder and swiping for non CG girls. I got matched up with 3 different girls from LV.

Two of them ended up being CG girls sitting in hotel bars bored looking for fun. One of them even went on about BP closing up shop a few days ago.

Too funny this was.

[QUOTE=Travelforfun;3223712]Look for a large number of girls back in the casinos. Maybe it will be back to the way it used to be. I know a lot of the girls left the CG scene for BP. However, the fact that BP is in effect being shut down by the govt is pure BS.[/QUOTE]Didn't they just move over to the dating section?

What are the top 3 places for casino girls? Seems like Hard Rock is high on the list. Do girls in bars at casinos fall in under CG category?

I've been reading this forum on and off over the past couple of years. Thanks for the info.

One thing I don't really hear is anyone getting questioned or busted for being with a casino girl. Is it a safer option, or pretty much the same as everything else? Seems there would be no phone record of anything which would be nice. I can't imagine the cops would invest a lot of time as undercover CGs to catch a handful of guys and embarrass the casino.

[QUOTE=BonAppetit;3235898]I've been reading this forum on and off over the past couple of years. Thanks for the info.

One thing I don't really hear is anyone getting questioned or busted for being with a casino girl. Is it a safer option, or pretty much the same as everything else? Seems there would be no phone record of anything which would be nice. I can't imagine the cops would invest a lot of time as undercover CGs to catch a handful of guys and embarrass the casino.[/QUOTE]My thoughts, get your feet wet: look, wander, talk, engage and use your senses to educate yourself.

Do it repetitious enough and your education will make an enlightening experience.

[QUOTE=BonAppetit;3235898]I've been reading this forum on and off over the past couple of years. Thanks for the info.

One thing I don't really hear is anyone getting questioned or busted for being with a casino girl. Is it a safer option, or pretty much the same as everything else? Seems there would be no phone record of anything which would be nice. I can't imagine the cops would invest a lot of time as undercover CGs to catch a handful of guys and embarrass the casino.[/QUOTE]In Las Vegas, you really have to work to get busted with a casino girl. I've never heard of police stings inside a casino. Casino security doesn't usually care if you bring an attractive woman to your room, even if they suspect / know she's a pro. The only time I've seen security get involved is when the girl is known to be trouble, in which case they're doing you a favor.

Now and then, casino security will ramp things up and kick out the girls who are obviously working. But if you see casino girls working without being hassled, and you pick up a girl who's not acting crazy or completely obvious, you should be fine, LEO-wise.

[QUOTE=MisterFrisky;3237284]In Las Vegas, you really have to work to get busted with a casino girl. I've never heard of police stings inside a casino.[/QUOTE]I've read about a handful of incidents but I think they are few and far between. I suspect the vast majority of casino don't won't police inside arresting their patrons.

What I have seen more of in recent years is security interrupting a CG and a client to tell her to hit the bricks. I've even seen this happen a couple of times as they were heading to the elevator. I was shocked at that. I do agree that security will lean on them for a while then seemingly back off. I suppose it's all the whim of some executive.

I tend to think CG's are one of the safer forms of prostitution, especially for the customer. That said everyone should still use common sense when dealing with them.

Agree with this. Consider this fact: any CG who has been working the casino knows they have been videoed about a zillion times within the casino. Also, known bad apples ie previously been 86'd off property would already be known to security and be run off or worse arrested for ignoring a formal trespass warning. Consequently the remainder are pretty much allowed to uh provide their service there as long as not hugely obvious to non mongers. In any event these factors lead them to be 'safer' bets but certainly not beyond grabbing a few extra bills if the john is too intoxicated or crashes pre exit. Those just crimes of opportunity not violent etc.

Being private venues and having their own security pretty much means cops would need to be called to bust a get together and I think it's virtually unheard of as it makes little sense. Only if there was a rip off or violence something real serious would real cops be called or ever get involved IMHO. Agree though it's never risk free. Just like the gaming there.

[QUOTE=GentleJester;3238572]I've read about a handful of incidents but I think they are few and far between. I suspect the vast majority of casino don't won't police inside arresting their patrons.

What I have seen more of in recent years is security interrupting a CG and a client to tell her to hit the bricks. I've even seen this happen a couple of times as they were heading to the elevator. I was shocked at that. I do agree that security will lean on them for a while then seemingly back off. I suppose it's all the whim of some executive.

I tend to think CG's are one of the safer forms of prostitution, especially for the customer. That said everyone should still use common sense when dealing with them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BonAppetit;3235898]I've been reading this forum on and off over the past couple of years. Thanks for the info.

One thing I don't really hear is anyone getting questioned or busted for being with a casino girl. Is it a safer option, or pretty much the same as everything else? Seems there would be no phone record of anything which would be nice. I can't imagine the cops would invest a lot of time as undercover CGs to catch a handful of guys and embarrass the casino.[/QUOTE]If you follow the rules listed here (lock up valuables in the safe, don't be drunk, don't take two girls up, etc.) and feel out the individual girl, you should be fine. As some have said, security will often quickly run off the trouble girls depending on the kind of place you're visiting. I've seen the blue jacket guys at Cosmo swarm towards one girl as soon as she walks in, and let three other girls just walk right in after her. They know. As do the bartenders. If you are cool without being too overt (remember that they are always under observation too), and tip the bartenders well, they will often tell you about "that" girl across the bar. My routine is to put my watch, wallet, everything but my phone and the cash I'm willing to give to a CG in the safe, then I go out on the hunt. Also, and I know this sounds terrible and I apologize, but I'd say be extra careful with a BCG. Just my experience over the years.

So I'm here on business and staying at the Hard Rock. Been a rough day and I'm wondering how the whole Hard rock Casino Girl scene works here? How do I spot them and how Donau get them tonapproach?

Thanks!

Got game? Go play. Pretty simple.

[QUOTE=OTownDoug;3240079]So I'm here on business and staying at the Hard Rock. Been a rough day and I'm wondering how the whole Hard rock Casino Girl scene works here? How do I spot them and how Donau get them tonapproach?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OTownDoug;3240079]So I'm here on business and staying at the Hard Rock. Been a rough day and I'm wondering how the whole Hard rock Casino Girl scene works here? How do I spot them and how Donau get them tonapproach?

Thanks![/QUOTE]They'll find you.

[QUOTE=OTownDoug;3240079]So I'm here on business and staying at the Hard Rock. Been a rough day and I'm wondering how the whole Hard rock Casino Girl scene works here? How do I spot them and how Donau get them tonapproach?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I just lick my eyebrows.

Seriously, make eye contact with a pretty lady playing cheap slots. If she's a CG, she'll be over faster than a liberal crying about #potus45.

[QUOTE=AzskyDiver;3240577]I just lick my eyebrows.

Seriously, make eye contact with a pretty lady playing cheap slots. If she's a CG, she'll be over faster than a liberal crying about #potus45.[/QUOTE]Also if you still don't have the confidence and have the time and some money then get friendly with the bartender and send over a drink to the lady. It works wonders. If not no harm, no foul.

Okay. I plan to visit Las Vegas in a few months. If I meet a CG at one casino is it unethical to invite her back to my room in another casino.

Most ladies I have met on BP are 100 roses to 150 roses for HH. How are the donations for CGs?

Thanks in advance for all the advise.

[QUOTE=VeryHorny;3242266]Okay. I plan to visit Las Vegas in a few months. If I meet a CG at one casino is it unethical to invite her back to my room in another casino.

Most ladies I have met on BP are 100 roses to 150 roses for HH. How are the donations for CGs?

Thanks in advance for all the advise.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure that "unethical" is the word you're looking for there. It's not like she is a casino employee and they are losing out on the revenue if she leaves! Maybe you mean is it possible? Yes, and no.

If you meet her at Planet Hollywood (fairly safe bet to see some CGs there) and want to take her back to your room at Paris, Ballys, Cosmo, etc. Yeah, probably. Want to take her to SLS or Mandalay Bay? Not as likely unless you get a cab and maybe offer her a bit extra for her cab fare back. It's all a matter of the value of their time and their mood. Some may not want to walk far or ride somewhere, others will.

Best bet is to stay at a large Strip casino where they can be found in house or outside on the walkways. Don't stay at Red Rock and expect CGs to ride all the way back there with you, at least not for free.

[QUOTE=VeryHorny;3242266]Okay. I plan to visit Las Vegas in a few months. If I meet a CG at one casino is it unethical to invite her back to my room in another casino.

Most ladies I have met on BP are 100 roses to 150 roses for HH. How are the donations for CGs?

Thanks in advance for all the advise.[/QUOTE]Not at all. They'll want to take the cab if it's too far. I used to take them to the Gold Coast all the time.

You can't make this stuff up.

[URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/las-vegas-masseuse-stole-35g-rolex-hiding-vagina-cops-article-1.1741335[/URL]

[QUOTE=Amplover69;3250927]You can't make this stuff up.

[URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/las-vegas-masseuse-stole-35g-rolex-hiding-vagina-cops-article-1.1741335[/URL][/QUOTE]And that was the beginning of the end. You have to give her credit for getting it out that way. Thing is w / a guy like this she probably could have kept on milking him and milking him and got everything she wanted "legally" over time. he already bought into her being a legit massage girl even though she has work cards to work at strip joints! I know 2 instances back here in chi-town where one pro and one non got huge bucks from guys just like this. She got short term stupid. They all seem to. but right you are you can't make this up!

[QUOTE=Amplover69;3250927]You can't make this stuff up.

[URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/las-vegas-masseuse-stole-35g-rolex-hiding-vagina-cops-article-1.1741335[/URL][/QUOTE]We all heard about this 3 years ago when it happened.

[QUOTE=VeryHorny;3242266]Okay. I plan to visit Las Vegas in a few months. If I meet a CG at one casino is it unethical to invite her back to my room in another casino.

Most ladies I have met on BP are 100 roses to 150 roses for HH. How are the donations for CGs?

Thanks in advance for all the advise.[/QUOTE]First thing you need to get straight is that there are absolutely no ethics when it comes to casino girls. They do not work in any particular casino, they go to wherever they can find someone to pry as much cash as possible from. It is all about the money.

In general, they will not provide anything but a sexual transaction in as short amount of time as possible, especially during peak times. They may or may not go anywhere you want, if you pay them enough. You won't get any kind of GFE from them, nothing bare (except the rare BBBJ).

You stand a very good chance in getting ripped off if you haven't played with them before. Especially if they feel you are an easy mark. Newbies need not apply.

So to answer your question about will they go offsite, you won't know until you ask. If you are too far and it is busy time, they may either say no or quote you an expensive price. And ask for return cab fare. (don't suggest Uber, they might tell you to fuck off, you fucking cheapskate! If you find anything for less than $150, you will be lucky. "Standard" 1st quoted price is typically $250-$350, and I have found most will settle for $200. Lowest I ever paid was $120 for a very cute girl, but this was only because it was 5 am early Monday morning and there was virtually nobody left in the casinos at that time. She was heading home, and I propositioned her on her way to the parking garage.

I was just in Vegas last week. I don't go with Casino girls anymore mainly because they are a horrible value. Also, I seek BBFS, and you will never find that in a casino girl. That doesn't stop me from talking with them and negotiating price with them. I hit up a bunch of them, and got mostly $250 prices, and a few $300 prices. Then I saw the most absolutely stunning young blonde. Completely hot, and she knew it. She was so discreet, she wouldn't talk with me, because security watches her like a hawk. But I know the routine with these girls, you look at them and toss your head to the side, and they nod. I walked over to a slot machine and sat down. She walked up and put her card down two machines away from me and never stopped walking. I texted her, her response was "I ask $500, but will negotiate because it is slow tonight". I responded with "thanks, it is late, will contact you tomorrow. ".

As I have posted earlier, the average person in Vegas cannot easily spot working girls. It amazes me, because they are all over and easy to spot and engage. I just like window shopping these days, just to stay relevant.