Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=Giani; 1287857]This discussion has taken an interesting turn. We have an advertising provider who cautions us against cruising the streets 'cause they will take your car? Could be unprejudiced advice. Or not. If you cruise and pick up an SW at one tenth the cost, it cuts into the escort business.

I have several times heard reports that LE CAN impound your car (LE makes this threat often since fear is a major force against mongering) , but have never heard of a car actually impounded on the sole count of mongering. Anyone, anyone? Perhaps it has happened, but I would think the action would have been reported on this forum (one of the valuable functions of our forum).

Even IF cars have been impounded. Having your car impounded is extremely unlikely if you follow the rules. (I posted a set of 13 rules years ago-Jackson has summarized them so we don't keep repeating ourselves.) BUT, the key rules to avoid LE bust:

1) Do NOT negotiate thru the window. If she doesn't jump right in, bye, bye. Stinging females do NOT get in the car. (You HAVE scoped out the area for lurking LE, right?)

2) Leave the pickup area immediately, watch your rear view mirror.

3) Do NOT discuss "What for how much?" until you have left the hot zone and have innocently asked if she minds a touch to her breast or crotch (NO mention of $).

I do not think that I am wrong in believing that you can be busted only for ACTUALLY offering money for sex? So don't do that until you are well clear of surveillance, etc.

Safe mongering.[/QUOTE]My comment was not meant to steer anyone away from S-W's

Them girls got to get paid also.

I have seen many cars impounded and the client arrested

I grew up OTR

Weather or not the man got his car back I don't know.

I just know it was taken at the time of arrest.

Kisses LL

Hope I did this right.

CINCINNATI. Cincinnati police said they arrested 19 people in a prostitution sting Wednesday.

Police said the 18 men and one woman were arrested during the operation in Price Hill and Lower Price Hill by officers from the Vice Control Section.

The 18 men were charged with soliciting and / or loitering to solicit prostitution. The one woman arrested was charged with obstructing official business. All of the charges are misdemeanors.

Police said they also impounded 10 vehicles under the ordinance that imposes a civil fine for those charged with soliciting.

Read more:

[url]http://www.wlwt.com/news/23635883/detail.html#ixzz1ZTs3RONN[/url]

So the evidence is in (thanks MrNails). Cincinnati's finest are INDEED concentrating on titillating the public with their prowess: busting non-violent offenders of the crime of engaging in a consensual business transaction and impounding their cars. Sheesh. And this at a time that street gun play continues to rage in Cincinnati's inner city? The Puritans win over those who believe that the REAL problem is violent crime, not limited non-violent 'offences'. Still, we have yet to hear from anyone on this board who has personal experience impoundment due to mongering (maybe because forum participants are aware of prudent mongering practices?)

Lady L: You are proven correct. Your experience in OTR is believable. May we ask if you personally experienced or witnessed the impoundment of a client's car? (How did that go down?) It is so unbelievable that a seriously focused LE would let the street shooters slide while they make headlines busting non-violent trade.I am currently wiping that egg from my face.

May I (trying to salvage something from my previous post.) mention that my cautions about not getting busted in a sting still hold:

1) Don't pick up anyone who doesn't get right into the car.

2) Leave the pickup zone immediately, be sure you are not being followed.

3) Do not mention any act for any amount until you have performed the LE test (I. E, touching, feeling) (Remember, you only thought you knew the woman, and were giving her a ride.

BTW, the article confirms that LE is concentrating on headline-seeking work in PH and LPH for their headlines rather than fighting violent crime, even in these days of diminished LE resources.

[QUOTE=MrNails; 1288229]Hope I did this right.

CINCINNATI. Cincinnati police said they arrested 19 people in a prostitution sting Wednesday.

Police said the 18 men and one woman were arrested during the operation in Price Hill and Lower Price Hill by officers from the Vice Control Section.

The 18 men were charged with soliciting and / or loitering to solicit prostitution. The one woman arrested was charged with obstructing official business. All of the charges are misdemeanors.

Police said they also impounded 10 vehicles under the ordinance that imposes a civil fine for those charged with soliciting.

Read more:

[url]http://www.wlwt.com/news/23635883/detail.html#ixzz1ZTs3RONN[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrNails; 1288229]Hope I did this right.

CINCINNATI. Cincinnati police said they arrested 19 people in a prostitution sting:

Police said they also impounded 10 vehicles under the ordinance that imposes a civil fine for those charged with soliciting.

Read more:

[url]http://www.wlwt.com/news/23635883/detail.html#ixzz1ZTs3RONN[/url][/QUOTE][QUOTE=Giani; 1288437]Still, we have yet to hear from anyone on this board who has personal experience impoundment due to mongering (maybe because forum participants are aware of prudent mongering practices?)

May I (trying to salvage something from my previous post.) mention that my cautions about not getting busted in a sting still hold:

1) Don't pick up anyone who doesn't get right into the car.

2) Leave the pickup zone immediately, be sure you are not being followed.

3) Do not mention any act for any amount until you have performed the LE test (I. E, touching, feeling) (Remember, you only thought you knew the woman, and were giving her a ride.[/QUOTE]I would have to think it is a logical assumption that forum participants are better equiped to avoid such peril and that is why we do not have any personal stories of impoundment. However, we all made dumb mistakes while learning through trial and error before finding this website and it's list of 22 Rules. As Giani as pointed out, merely following the condensed list of 3 should be enough to keep someone out of the grasp of an LE sting. The remaining rules are sort of icing on the cake.

Certainly there is someone here that has experienced a sting and / or impoundment in their past, but chooses not to speak up. Perhaps it is concern that other members are just going to rub salt in the wound confirming how badly they screwed up. We can be rather tough sometimes on some of the guys here both newbies and seniors alike.

It might be wise though if someone does decide to speak up about such an incident, state the facts but do not be so specific about location, date, and time especially if your bad luck was local and recent. We would not want the "headline seekers" that spend way too much time reading here rather than fighting crime to make a connection between a real life identity and someone's handle that is used here to share fantasy stories.

[QUOTE=IloveHEs;1287902]You will not have your car impounded simply for mongering. The key phrase in the law is the "and / or". You have to have drugs in the car to have it impounded, the mongering would be the reason for the stop, and there would have to be drugs present for the impoundment. Seniors can PM me with any questions they have about impoundment since I used to do it for a living.[/QUOTE]I respectfully suggest that Cincinnati City Council's use of the disjunctive "or" within Section 759-5 (a) of the Cincinnati Municipal Code is enough to impound a car for in conjunction with committing any one of the three listed offenses. IF the conjunctive word "and" was enforced by the courts in impoundment cases, it would be a very rare case where the government could win, since all three crimes would have to be going on. Drugs in the car + a provider in the car is one crime short for a successful impoundment if the word "and" was actually the law under Section 759-5 (a).

Hello everyone,

Where have I been, must been under a rock, new to the site, but if anyone know where SW is, I am definitely your #1 Guy. From my times as Mid-Level dealer, I saw the tricks&johns Underworld! This DOPEBOY CHRONICLES, STAY TUNE.

It seems as though a lot of guys arrested for soliciting are Mexican. They probably don't speak English too well and sure as hell not familiar with the site and rules. I would have to say that our knowledge of the law as well as useful info on the board helps us out a great deal.

I've avoided a LE sting first handed once. After pulling over and pretending I was texting, she approached the car and I asked if she needed a ride. She wanted to negotiate through the window so I clearly stated to her "I was not interested in that type of illegal nonsense" LOL. If she were a real SW, she would have sensed the sarcasm and hopped in the damn car. Instead I was given a warning to be careful about police in the area (wink wink) as I proceeded to pull off. She might as well have said "get out of here and don't come back or I'll bust your ass". I have to admit, it was a fucking rush! It would have been interesting to see her response to the nude modeling approach.

I feel bad for the poor guys that don't know any better and lack the street smarts. Remember, they can always try arrest you even though you don't take the bait but it would never hold weight in court. You would be amazed at the percentage of cases that get dismissed. You would also be amazed at the percentage of people that simply don't exercise their right to trial. LE uses that to their advantage a lot of times. If you look like someone who would not be smart enough to go to court and fight it, the chances of you being arrested just doubled. I'm not saying to act like a pompous know-it-all arrogant lawyer type when you get pulled over, but they should see it in your eyes that you know what the fuck is going on. I would go down fighting (in court gentlemen lol). Would you?

Was on Reading Road. And Section Road. Around 3pm. And saw a red head (little on the heavy side however very nice face and looked clean nice jeans) that kept giving the look. I was sure she was working however could not stop as I had to be somewhere else at that time. Went back around 5pm and made a few passes however no luck this time.

Be Safe

[QUOTE=Giani; 1288437]So the evidence is in (thanks MrNails). Cincinnati's finest are INDEED concentrating on titillating the public with their prowess: busting non-violent offenders of the crime of engaging in a consensual business transaction and impounding their cars. Sheesh. And this at a time that street gun play continues to rage in Cincinnati's inner city? The Puritans win over those who believe that the REAL problem is violent crime, not limited non-violent 'offences'. Still, we have yet to hear from anyone on this board who has personal experience impoundment due to mongering (maybe because forum participants are aware of prudent mongering practices?)

Lady L: You are proven correct. Your experience in OTR is believable. May we ask if you personally experienced or witnessed the impoundment of a client's car? (How did that go down?) It is so unbelievable that a seriously focused LE would let the street shooters slide while they make headlines busting non-violent trade. I am currently wiping that egg from my face.

May I (trying to salvage something from my previous post.) mention that my cautions about not getting busted in a sting still hold:

1) Don't pick up anyone who doesn't get right into the car.

2) Leave the pickup zone immediately, be sure you are not being followed.

3) Do not mention any act for any amount until you have performed the LE test (I. E, touching, feeling) (Remember, you only thought you knew the woman, and were giving her a ride.

BTW, the article confirms that LE is concentrating on headline-seeking work in PH and LPH for their headlines rather than fighting violent crime, even in these days of diminished LE resources.[/QUOTE]It's all about the dollar for not just business but also government. Alot lower resources needed for busting people for these things not to mention the fines imposed, knowing most people won't fight it as to keep as little publicity as possible. They get recognition in the media which means more on their resumes to swoon the puritans over with. Just watch how bad it gets if sb5 passes and pretty much busts up LE unions. And impose some sort of quota it'll be a terrible mess. Theyd rather concentrate on traffic citations and hobbists, knowing 90% of all fined will pay the fines just to get it over with whether they could win or not. Small amount of over head and unchallenged fines, its complete bs! And the idiots will buy into this BS thinking they are doing a better job, while violent and true crimes continue to escalate.

Met Amy tonight, a WSW, somewhere in the vicinity of the 2400 block of McMic. Was wearing a coat over a white tank top and jeans. She was somewhat busty, but also was a little on the chubby side overall, and sort of had a baby face (although said she was 33 so maybe it was just my failing eyes in poor lighting). Says she is close with Red Head Jaimey and that she has been away for a bit but is now back working the stroll. Maybe that additional tidbit helps someone recognize the Amy in question.

I would repeat if I see her again because she was soft spoken, had a laid back attitude, was clean, smelled good, no upsell and no drama. I had to finish the job by hand though, but through no fault of hers or the quality of her BJ skills. We had been parked for about 10 mins when another vehicle ended up parking behind us, left the engine running and did not cut its lights. No one got in or out so maybe they had the same thing going on that we did, but talk about a distraction! I couldn't get my head back in the game at that point. We maybe went another 5 mins this way before I decided that I didn't like the defense and called the audible.

I think that the sentiment over the term "impound" is getting somewhat blown out of proportion.

Let's look at impound; that is what happens when a motorist is arrested and cannot continue to nevigate their vehicle. Hence a towing company is called and the car is towed to a private company's storage lot, and hence the vehicle is impounded. Quite a different matter if the vehicle is seized and forfeiture occurs.

I think the vast majority of cases that we hear or read about are impounds, not seizures. So until we have evidence about seizures of vehicles being used, while the operator was arrested for soliciting, or loitering to solicit, (the two most common charges) , then let's not get carried away here. I do not think that the "boogie man" is in the next room waiting to pounce on me.

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1288993]I think that the sentiment over the term "impound" is getting somewhat blown out of proportion.

Let's look at impound; that is what happens when a motorist is arrested and cannot continue to nevigate their vehicle. Hence a towing company is called and the car is towed to a private company's storage lot, and hence the vehicle is impounded. Quite a different matter if the vehicle is seized and forfeiture occurs.

I think the vast majority of cases that we hear or read about are impounds, not seizures. So until we have evidence about seizures of vehicles being used, while the operator was arrested for soliciting, or loitering to solicit, (the two most common charges) , then let's not get carried away here. I do not think that the "boogie man" is in the next room waiting to pounce on me.[/QUOTE]I've had the misfortune of being caught in a sting. I don't recommend it for anyone. Over $100 to retrieve your vehicle at the lot on Springrove Avenue. Then had to explain it to the wife because of a notice that arrived in the mail over a week after I was caught. Pm me for the sad details. Yes, I didn't follow the rules.

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1288993]I think that the sentiment over the term "impound" is getting somewhat blown out of proportion.

Let's look at impound; that is what happens when a motorist is arrested and cannot continue to nevigate their vehicle. Hence a towing company is called and the car is towed to a private company's storage lot, and hence the vehicle is impounded. Quite a different matter if the vehicle is seized and forfeiture occurs.

I think the vast majority of cases that we hear or read about are impounds, not seizures. So until we have evidence about seizures of vehicles being used, while the operator was arrested for soliciting, or loitering to solicit, (the two most common charges) , then let's not get carried away here. I do not think that the "boogie man" is in the next room waiting to pounce on me.[/QUOTE]Varoom is right. There is a world of difference between "forfeiture" and "impoundment". As discussed at post no. 2053, a lot of thing have to happen to you before your car is lost via the impoundment process. But what is unavoidable (absent an acquittal) is paying the civil fine / posting a bond (at least $500. 00) and paying the impoundment lot fee ( $300. 00). That's what the impoundment fee was when I got my car out of the lot a few years ago for parking in the wrong place. The impoundment fee surely has gone up since then. (Well heck, the sign said "Fine for Parking" or word to that effect, so it must have been okay to park there, right?). These payments are in addition to what you get to pay for the solicitation / loitering fines or attorney's fees. In addition to the missing cash from your bill fold, you might have to explain to your wife or significant other why your vehicle is temporarily MIA.

Double line. While there is a big esoteric difference between impoundment and forfeiture, the practical consequences of impoundment can be very real. The recent reminders from the Srs. About using the Rules can prevent all this nonsense.