Korean Bar Reports

[QUOTE=Blade82;4306504]Highly doubt kalihi will ever reach the town bars limits unless the whole town gets a huge makeover. The hardcore kB clientele just isn't big enough to support the business. I hope I don't offend anyone, but reality is majority of the kalihi residents is not the type of clientele that will give good business let alone stability. Already as it is lot of kalihi bars are closing their doors on weekdays at 1 because business is that slow and they know after a certain point there is no possibility of customers. Got to wonder how they making ends meet as it is. Weekends are super busy for some but weekdays is extremely bad. All in all we'll just have to see what type of businesses these new condos will allow on their bottom floors. If anything I foresee things start shifting closer to the King st area and making its way down towards university.[/QUOTE]Kalihi will never reach the town limits, but when there are only 2 KBs in town, Kalihi will be the prime mover. As for moving to King St and the university are, I would have to disagree. To open up a new bar, especially a hostess bar is difficult at best. IIRC, there is a distance requirement from residences that must be met. In the King St and university area, it would prove to be very difficult.

Any "Mimi" spotting lately? Checked at 904- no sign of her! PM is OK!

Town side clientele don't have any choice to move west if there is only 2 bars left standing. As far as we know Camelot and Splash are in the safe zone as of now, all other bars in the area are on the demo list.

Kalihi bars probably will shrinking down to a few, there just isn't enough interest of bar hopping these days. Business are getting less and less patrons and most of the big sharks are long gone.

[QUOTE=Blade82;4306504]Highly doubt kalihi will ever reach the town bars limits unless the whole town gets a huge makeover. The hardcore kB clientele just isn't big enough to support the business. I hope I don't offend anyone, but reality is majority of the kalihi residents is not the type of clientele that will give good business let alone stability. Already as it is lot of kalihi bars are closing their doors on weekdays at 1 because business is that slow and they know after a certain point there is no possibility of customers. Got to wonder how they making ends meet as it is. Weekends are super busy for some but weekdays is extremely bad. All in all we'll just have to see what type of businesses these new condos will allow on their bottom floors. If anything I foresee things start shifting closer to the King st area and making its way down towards university.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WarriorForLife;4307381]Town side clientele don't have any choice to move west if there is only 2 bars left standing. As far as we know Camelot and Splash are in the safe zone as of now, all other bars in the area are on the demo list.

Kalihi bars probably will shrinking down to a few, there just isn't enough interest of bar hopping these days. Business are getting less and less patrons and most of the big sharks are long gone.[/QUOTE]Maybe bars can pop up in Kapolei the seconds city.

[QUOTE=Blade82;4306504]Highly doubt kalihi will ever reach the town bars limits unless the whole town gets a huge makeover. The hardcore kB clientele just isn't big enough to support the business. I hope I don't offend anyone, but reality is majority of the kalihi residents is not the type of clientele that will give good business let alone stability. Already as it is lot of kalihi bars are closing their doors on weekdays at 1 because business is that slow and they know after a certain point there is no possibility of customers. Got to wonder how they making ends meet as it is. Weekends are super busy for some but weekdays is extremely bad. All in all we'll just have to see what type of businesses these new condos will allow on their bottom floors. If anything I foresee things start shifting closer to the King st area and making its way down towards university.[/QUOTE]Fundamental problem is that the clientele for these places is aging and going away. These places aren't attracting any new patrons and younger guys aren't replacing the clientele being lost. Younger guys are spending money at places like Club Melo which is full of young college girls who will suck dick or do take out much quicker and easier than a kbar girl will. Ballerinas is the same situation for the most part with plenty take out available.

[QUOTE=VietWhisperer;4307978]Fundamental problem is that the clientele for these places is aging and going away. These places aren't attracting any new patrons and younger guys aren't replacing the clientele being lost.[/QUOTE]Yups, the KBs need to change their current image / model to attract replacement LVBs and keep current 'aging and going away' clientele. How they going do this with other viable (AMPs; the aforementioned Club Melo, Ballerina, etc.) venues to look for chicks; not to mention changes in attitude, priority, and sensibility of younger (and current veteran KB) guys whose views of the KBs have changed due to generation, lifestyle, and experience?

The world and its attitudes are obviously changing, so must the KBs. Or just keep the simple formula that works: debauchery?

[QUOTE=VietWhisperer;4307978]Fundamental problem is that the clientele for these places is aging and going away. These places aren't attracting any new patrons and younger guys aren't replacing the clientele being lost. Younger guys are spending money at places like Club Melo which is full of young college girls who will suck dick or do take out much quicker and easier than a kbar girl will. Ballerinas is the same situation for the most part with plenty take out available.[/QUOTE]That is the correct business plan, put out or close. The other problem is the old hags in Kalihi and daytime Kapiolani, they need to pay me, and even then I would be picky.

[QUOTE=Glogauer;4305986]Someday even Kalihi is going to get redeveloped. Most of the Kalihi KBs sit on KSBE land, and as the 60 and 80 year leases expire, KSBE plans to develop high-density mixed-used residential / retail buildings all along the rail corridor.

Take a look at this rendering along Kapalama Canal!

[URL]https://www.ksbe.edu/imua/article/kapalama-kai-envisions-an-innovative-mixed-use-community-for-kamaaaina-in/[/URL]

Bye bye Kalihi Station, Starlite, 904, K-Syle, Spotlite, Cleopatra, Blue Star et al. The 5-plex and Vegas / Aqua are on KSBE land, but it doesn't look like they will get redeveloped in this Kapalama Kai community.

I think Pearl Kai Shopping Center (and the KBs therein) is on KSBE land, too. But that lease won't be expiring anytime soon.

Let's see if an enterprising Mama and her silent LVB partners can open a KB in Ward Village. If that happens, then we will know that the KBs will survive for another generation.[/QUOTE]Check out the Two Tides bar in Whole Foods. Happy Hour beer is $2. A nice place to drink and watch the wildlife. However, nobody is drinking. Young people sit two or three at a table but don't drink. Don't interact. Just stare at their phones or computer. If this is what the future is like in Kakaako, then bars are doomed. I don’t know what it’s like late night but at 4pm my bud and I are the only ones drinking and the place is full of youngsters.

Where is club mello.

I think it is where jazz minds, akasaka and happy nites (old LAP) is.

[QUOTE=SamKanigawa;4308479]Where is club mello.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WarriorForLife;4306185]Staying away from KBs for over 3 weeks. Have not seen or talk to my honey Fox for a while, anyone know how she is doing these days?[/QUOTE]Seen her Monday night at 904 as a civilian. I was accosted and molested by her to and from the restroom and as always I kick her to the curb.

Anybody went to the new "Chill" opening?

[QUOTE=DaGame;4308862]Anybody went to the new "Chill" opening?[/QUOTE]I just dropped by to see if they were really open. There was one table occupied. Happy Hour from 12 to 7. Beer is $3.

The place used to be the busiest bar in town, one table occupied on an opening night, sad case!

[QUOTE=Bikini;4308879]I just dropped by to see if they were really open. There was one table occupied. Happy Hour from 12 to 7. Beer is $3.[/QUOTE].

Fox is Fox, she loves to keep moving from bar to bar. Whether it is on the clock or just shooting the shit with friends as cilivian. She enjoying it.

[QUOTE=Ichigo808;4308800]Seen her Monday night at 904 as a civilian. I was accosted and molested by her to and from the restroom and as always I kick her to the curb.[/QUOTE].