Korean Bar Reports

[QUOTE=MitsFunai;4301615]Looks like it's the beginning of the end for Twilight, Hot Spot, Lotus, and that complex housing small businesses; closing scheduled for an August / September timeframe; for the tenants, clear and demo for development. Another wispy bit of info for the Chill turnover: scheduling for the "new opening (with a 'Business'-related new name") is now Wednesday, 05/05/2019; take it for whatever it's worth as no definitive / reliable info for the date has emerged. The loss of Evergreen, Talent, D'amour, Double D, Twilight, Hot Spot, Lotus, etc. , along that line will probably become a windfall for those KBs still standing; as well as an advantage for customers with competing KBGs fighting for the piece-of-the-pie.[/QUOTE]I just heard the same, wed Mimi's new place will be opening. Sounded pretty firm as a number of girls said this was their last week at Ashley's. I noticed Mimi was around again too. I wonder how many girls will remain at Ashley. I also anticipate girls from other bars like lotus will be making the move. Next week should be interesting as I anticipate some bars will take a huge business cut.

[QUOTE=WarriorForLife;4301740]Writing on the wall, just matter of time, only town bars that left standing probably would be Camelot and Splash. But that still not a guarantee.

KBs are boring, no food, no music, girls these days want at least 2 drinks to start any kind of conversation. And if you stop buying they will just hop on to another table.

Anyway, I predict some Kalihi bars will close as well, business are dead all around, too many bars, not enough patrons.[/QUOTE]Why is Ashleys Place for sale? She probably wants to reel in a sucka partner, like she did before and kept the money.

LVB mongers have the power, but running out of playground. Support your local, friendly KB (misnomer).

[QUOTE=Blade82;4302032]I just heard the same, wed Mimi's new place will be opening. Sounded pretty firm as a number of girls said this was their last week at Ashley's. Next week should be interesting as I anticipate some bars will take a huge business cut.[/QUOTE]IMO, the Old Chill New Business should reap the most advantage of all the KBs in the area due to its expansive parking lot and accessibility via bus line. Splash / Ashley would be second best depending upon which route is used, and Camelot (too large)/ Xclusive as secondary venues (due to limited parking) for folks who no like crowded places. If had bus route along Sheridan (never going happen) then that would be the equalizer for KBs in the area. Of course, "where the KBGs are" is always the difference; wherever get the bestest KBGs going get the mostest business. Some KB operators getting all grouchy about their situation.

I thought Kalihi was going to be the next Kapiolani?

[QUOTE=MitsFunai;4303066]IMO, the Old Chill New Business should reap the most advantage of all the KBs in the area due to its expansive parking lot and accessibility via bus line. Splash / Ashley would be second best depending upon which route is used, and Camelot (too large)/ Xclusive as secondary venues (due to limited parking) for folks who no like crowded places. If had bus route along Sheridan (never going happen) then that would be the equalizer for KBs in the area. Of course, "where the KBGs are" is always the difference; wherever get the bestest KBGs going get the mostest business. Some KB operators getting all grouchy about their situation.

I thought Kalihi was going to be the next Kapiolani?[/QUOTE]Kalihi will be the new Kapiolani in 2-3 years. By that time, Ashleys and possibly New Business will be torn down for condos. Not sure about the Camelot complex, but who wants to be next to a dairy processor that delivers in the early morning hours. The big winner would be Splash.

Yes when is all said and done, Camelot and Splash might be the only ones left standing in town. Kalihi might be the next kapiolani. However their business might take a toll when the rail construction moving downtown. Lots of road closure at night.

Major project of moving electric wiring underground and relocation of sewer. Many Pearl City business suffered big loss and some forced to close when the project was done in that area. One note PC did not even have to relocate electric cables and sewer.

[QUOTE=JohnRoss;4303232]Kalihi will be the new Kapiolani in 2-3 years. By that time, Ashleys and possibly New Business will be torn down for condos. Not sure about the Camelot complex, but who wants to be next to a dairy processor that delivers in the early morning hours. The big winner would be Splash.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnRoss;4298791]Liquor Commission and INS are back at it again.[/QUOTE]Thru the KBG wireless the old Club 74 got raided by INS recently.

[QUOTE=Asstro;4302692]Why is Ashleys Place for sale? She probably wants to reel in a sucka partner, like she did before and kept the money.

LVB mongers have the power, but running out of playground. Support your local, friendly KB (misnomer).[/QUOTE]Rent is too high. In today's time paying $20 k+ / month for rent is too difficult, but there will always be a sucker mama that thinks she can make it. Back in the day it was doable, but not now.

[QUOTE=Lualualei808;4304441]Thru the KBG wireless the old Club 74 got raided by INS recently.[/QUOTE]Are you sure about the name? 74 was demolished along with Evergreen, last year.

[QUOTE=Lualualei808;4304441]Thru the KBG wireless the old Club 74 got raided by INS recently.[/QUOTE]Might want to check your source again. I don't think the building that Club 74 was in is even there anymore.

[QUOTE=JohnRoss;4304766]Are you sure about the name? 74 was demolished along with Evergreen, last year.[/QUOTE]Heard from my Mama friend it was 904 no one was written up all had green card.

[QUOTE=Alohaoe;4305333]Heard from my Mama friend it was 904 no one was written up all had green card.[/QUOTE]Where displace 904 located? I like sing drinking karaoke. My ex giving me stress. Is dis 904 one karaoke place?

Someday even Kalihi is going to get redeveloped. Most of the Kalihi KBs sit on KSBE land, and as the 60 and 80 year leases expire, KSBE plans to develop high-density mixed-used residential / retail buildings all along the rail corridor.

Take a look at this rendering along Kapalama Canal!

[URL]https://www.ksbe.edu/imua/article/kapalama-kai-envisions-an-innovative-mixed-use-community-for-kamaaaina-in/[/URL]

Bye bye Kalihi Station, Starlite, 904, K-Syle, Spotlite, Cleopatra, Blue Star et al. The 5-plex and Vegas / Aqua are on KSBE land, but it doesn't look like they will get redeveloped in this Kapalama Kai community.

I think Pearl Kai Shopping Center (and the KBs therein) is on KSBE land, too. But that lease won't be expiring anytime soon.

Let's see if an enterprising Mama and her silent LVB partners can open a KB in Ward Village. If that happens, then we will know that the KBs will survive for another generation.

Staying away from KBs for over 3 weeks. Have not seen or talk to my honey Fox for a while, anyone know how she is doing these days?

[QUOTE=JohnRoss;4304766]Are you sure about the name? 74 was demolished along with Evergreen, last year.[/QUOTE]Sorry it was 904.

[QUOTE=JohnRoss;4303232]Kalihi will be the new Kapiolani in 2-3 years. By that time, Ashleys and possibly New Business will be torn down for condos. Not sure about the Camelot complex, but who wants to be next to a dairy processor that delivers in the early morning hours. The big winner would be Splash.[/QUOTE]Highly doubt kalihi will ever reach the town bars limits unless the whole town gets a huge makeover. The hardcore kB clientele just isn't big enough to support the business. I hope I don't offend anyone, but reality is majority of the kalihi residents is not the type of clientele that will give good business let alone stability. Already as it is lot of kalihi bars are closing their doors on weekdays at 1 because business is that slow and they know after a certain point there is no possibility of customers. Got to wonder how they making ends meet as it is. Weekends are super busy for some but weekdays is extremely bad. All in all we'll just have to see what type of businesses these new condos will allow on their bottom floors. If anything I foresee things start shifting closer to the King st area and making its way down towards university.