Massage Therapists

Had a session with Jesse (MF). She was awesome. Started out with her wearing a kinda baggy shorts and t-shirt. Gave a light massage then asked if I wanted the world tour. Of course I said. She put on the condom and I asked for 69. She was sweet and smelled good too. She could take it deep too. I asked for more CBJ but in another position. She said ok. So I had her lay on her stomach with her head over the edge of the table. I moved my cock in front of her face and she went for it. I just let her do the work for a moment then I slowly fucked her mouth trying to go deep each time. Had to pull out couple times to stop from popping. Then had her turn on her back and fuck the mouth in that position. I could feel every inch of her mouth and throat. I just kept going slowly and deeper. What a sight and feeling. Also played with her pussy in this position and got her all wet. I asked she ready to fuck and she said up to you. I kept fucking that throat. On to the pussy. Did her in cg, rcg, doggie, mish, and popped in doggie. Great time. Showered and staggered out of there. Will definitely repeat and then some.

[QUOTE=Justin H; 1396843]Has anyone ever got play at this place that is behind Wailana Coffee shop called massage way?

Saw some pretty nice therapist there

Had a lady named Sun but no play[/QUOTE]Do a little more web research. They have a webpage that pretty clearly states their intent. I know two therapists who worked.

CC and left for this place because too many CC customers are seeking extras.

[QUOTE=Ck813; 1396304]I saw Nala about 5 plus years ago. I swear she charged 125. 00 total for massage and HJ.

I do not like the walking on the back so I never went back. Never got to feel her up either.

Does anyone know if she uses her hands elbows etc?

CK[/QUOTE]As far as feeling tits and ass, she has always been cool about it. Just did it in a gentle manner and she does not seem to mind. She does use her forearms and hands in the massage. I kind of dig the foot ahshiiatsu, but I like it hard.

Is it me or does junko never answers her phone. Been trying to get through to her for a while but no luck.

I've seen several providers in the past few weeks. I'll report all at once.

Candy at rejuve. L / S/A. 5/7/7 Not really my cup of tea. Older provider, not terribly attractive to me. Relatively good massage, but again, not exactly what I like. Plenty of people have reviewed her. Some like her, some not so much. HJ finish that was just OK. Nothing memorable. Won't repeat.

Kay at Thai Hawaiian. Rankings don't mean much to me because there's no play. She does give a good massage, which is why I went. I asked for strong, which was a mistake. She is VERY strong and I walked out pretty sore. Next time will ask for medium. She is quite friendly and does try hard to give a good massage. Would recommend for legit massage, but make sure to give her feedback about pressure.

Miya. Advertised on BP. I think she went back to California already. L / S/A. 7/8/10. Honestly, one of the sweetest women I've ever met. Chinese, about 5'1" or so. A little chunky, no ass, smallish tits, but SO NICE. I'm serious about that. Really, really nice. Smiled the whole time. No discussion of money. Pretty good massage, not great, but pretty good. After massage, started this very slow and sensual kissing down by spine. It felt so wonderful. Then, she started the rimming. It was fantastic. She really went to town and really got in to it. You guy might think this is amusing, but she got so into it, that I started to worry she was a tranny. Seriously. I actually stopped her so I could roll over and check between her legs. Whew. All woman there. Very wet, nice and tight. FIV was fine. She seemed to enjoy it. Went to get a condom for CBJ and I stopped her. Said I didn't have enough with me for FS. She said, that's ok. Don't worry about it. Just enjoy. And I did. Very good, very nice, very relaxing. Would definitely repeat, but she's gone back to Cali. Here's the thing though, no kissing at all. Which, was kind of OK since she just stuck her tongue half way up my colon, but I don't get providers that will give a rim but then no kissing. I just wonder if she avoided it because of the rim and she didn't want to gross me out? Anyway, great session. I normally don't go for FS (which is why I didn't have the funds with me) , but she was quite convincing.

Some chick at Bishop Executive Center. Here's my rant. I was so pissed that I didn't bother to remember her name. Now, I know a lot of you folks are going to disagree with me, but just bear with me for a minute. I like trying new providers (look at my previous reports) and that is fun to me. But I rarely do FS. I prefer massage + he. The problem is, there's no good way to figure out from ads what is available and what the provider expects. Even FS places will list all these massage types on their ads. Come on, those providers don't know the difference between lomi lomi and acupuncture and couldn't do either if their life depended on it. Some of the ads are fairly obvious. If there's a half-naked chick in the ad, then odds are it is FS. But then you have other places trying to entice people by making it looks like more is available (I'm looking at you TH) while the FS places are trying to entice people by making it look like they do real massage. So, what's an uninformed guy supposed to do?

The problem comes in when you go to a place where they are expecting FS, but you only want a HJ. The provider gets frustrated, cuts the massage short, gives a lame HE, and then asks for too much money. I can understand things from the provider's standpoint, but come on. We work hard for our money. What are we supposed to do, walk in and say,"He, I'm not LE, but I'm wondering if you will let me bang you or just give me an HE? Because I only brought enough for HE but want the full hour massage." That's obviously not going to work.

Honestly, cutting the massage short is my biggest pet peeve. I'm paying the money, they should provide the service. If they don't want to only do massage, then make it clear from the beginning or drop the BS fake massage ads. It's really, really frustrating to me.

I'm honest to a fault with providers. If they start giving FS and I don't have the funds, I stop them and tell them. I always tell the provider what I have to make sure it is enough. I don't want to cheat anyone. When Angie was at GB, she started with a BJ and I stopped her, said I only had $. She thanked me a LOT, said a lot of guys won't say anything and then give her too little money. She gave me a great HE and treated me very well each time I went there.

The woman I mentioned above, same thing. Told her how much I had and she said it was OK, don't worry. I have actually had that happen with several providers where they provided me with discounted services because I was honest up front. These providers appreciate the honesty. I'm not trying to rip anyone off.

So, this chick at bishop. Nice body, Chinese, no ass at all. Pleasant enough personality. Gave a pretty relaxing massage that I enjoyed. On the flip, asked what I wanted. I said that I didn't bring enough for everything. She said FS $$. I said I had half that. To me, it then sounded like she said HJ $. Said OK and she gave me a so so HJ. After dressed, put the money on the table. She picked it up and counted it (strike 1). She said that she told me HJ was $.2. I said, well, I didn't understand her and I told her I only had $. She started giving me a hard time about it (strike 2). I said, look at my wallet, nothing there. I only brought $ and I'm sorry I misunderstood you. Folks, I didn't lose my temper, was nice the whole time, honestly apologetic, etc. She eventually had to give up because, well, I didn't have any more money. She wasn't going to get water from a rock.

Was in there a total of 25 minutes. (strike 3).

I mean, come on.

Will DEFINITELY not repeat.

Like I said, I know some of you guys will disagree with me on this, but seriously. Not every provider is reviewed and there is no sure fire way to know before hand what will be offered. It's hit or miss sometimes. And the providers should be aware that not every guy wants FS. If they are going to advertise they do "massage", then they should be willing to give the full hour (or at least 50 minutes).

This provider is advertising on CL with the title "downtown" and a whole bunch of hearts of something. I'm not going to bother looking it up right now.

Hope this was a little helpful to people.

I'm honestly not trying to start a big argument or anything. Just my perspective.

[QUOTE=Bono888;1397008]Is it me or does junko never answers her phone. Been trying to get through to her for a while but no luck.[/QUOTE]She don't work Sundays and Tuesdays.

[QUOTE=Somehaole; 1397044]I've seen several providers in the past few weeks. I'll report all at once.

Candy at rejuve. L / S/A. 5/7/7 Not really my cup of tea. Older provider, not terribly attractive to me. Relatively good massage, but again, not exactly what I like. Plenty of people have reviewed her. Some like her, some not so much. HJ finish that was just OK. Nothing memorable. Won't repeat.

Kay at Thai Hawaiian. Rankings don't mean much to me because there's no play. She does give a good massage, which is why I went. I asked for strong, which was a mistake. She is VERY strong and I walked out pretty sore. Next time will ask for medium. She is quite friendly and does try hard to give a good massage. Would recommend for legit massage, but make sure to give her feedback about pressure.

Miya. Advertised on BP. I think she went back to California already. L / S/A. 7/8/10. Honestly, one of the sweetest women I've ever met. Chinese, about 5'1" or so. A little chunky, no ass, smallish tits, but SO NICE. I'm serious about that. Really, really nice. Smiled the whole time. No discussion of money. Pretty good massage, not great, but pretty good. After massage, started this very slow and sensual kissing down by spine. It felt so wonderful. Then, she started the rimming. It was fantastic. She really went to town and really got in to it. You guy might think this is amusing, but she got so into it, that I started to worry she was a tranny. Seriously. I actually stopped her so I could roll over and check between her legs. Whew. All woman there. Very wet, nice and tight. FIV was fine. She seemed to enjoy it. Went to get a condom for CBJ and I stopped her. Said I didn't have enough with me for FS. She said, that's ok. Don't worry about it. Just enjoy. And I did. Very good, very nice, very relaxing. Would definitely repeat, but she's gone back to Cali. Here's the thing though, no kissing at all. Which, was kind of OK since she just stuck her tongue half way up my colon, but I don't get providers that will give a rim but then no kissing. I just wonder if she avoided it because of the rim and she didn't want to gross me out? Anyway, great session. I normally don't go for FS (which is why I didn't have the funds with me) , but she was quite convincing.

Some chick at Bishop Executive Center. Here's my rant. I was so pissed that I didn't bother to remember her name. Now, I know a lot of you folks are going to disagree with me, but just bear with me for a minute. I like trying new providers (look at my previous reports) and that is fun to me. But I rarely do FS. I prefer massage + he. The problem is, there's no good way to figure out from ads what is available and what the provider expects. Even FS places will list all these massage types on their ads. Come on, those providers don't know the difference between lomi lomi and acupuncture and couldn't do either if their life depended on it. Some of the ads are fairly obvious. If there's a half-naked chick in the ad, then odds are it is FS. But then you have other places trying to entice people by making it looks like more is available (I'm looking at you TH) while the FS places are trying to entice people by making it look like they do real massage. So, what's an uninformed guy supposed to do?

The problem comes in when you go to a place where they are expecting FS, but you only want a HJ. The provider gets frustrated, cuts the massage short, gives a lame HE, and then asks for too much money. I can understand things from the provider's standpoint, but come on. We work hard for our money. What are we supposed to do, walk in and say,"He, I'm not LE, but I'm wondering if you will let me bang you or just give me an HE? Because I only brought enough for HE but want the full hour massage." That's obviously not going to work.

Honestly, cutting the massage short is my biggest pet peeve. I'm paying the money, they should provide the service. If they don't want to only do massage, then make it clear from the beginning or drop the BS fake massage ads. It's really, really frustrating to me.

I'm honest to a fault with providers. If they start giving FS and I don't have the funds, I stop them and tell them. I always tell the provider what I have to make sure it is enough. I don't want to cheat anyone. When Angie was at GB, she started with a BJ and I stopped her, said I only had $. She thanked me a LOT, said a lot of guys won't say anything and then give her too little money. She gave me a great HE and treated me very well each time I went there.

The woman I mentioned above, same thing. Told her how much I had and she said it was OK, don't worry. I have actually had that happen with several providers where they provided me with discounted services because I was honest up front. These providers appreciate the honesty. I'm not trying to rip anyone off.

So, this chick at bishop. Nice body, Chinese, no ass at all. Pleasant enough personality. Gave a pretty relaxing massage that I enjoyed. On the flip, asked what I wanted. I said that I didn't bring enough for everything. She said FS $$. I said I had half that. To me, it then sounded like she said HJ $. Said OK and she gave me a so so HJ. After dressed, put the money on the table. She picked it up and counted it (strike 1). She said that she told me HJ was $.2. I said, well, I didn't understand her and I told her I only had $. She started giving me a hard time about it (strike 2). I said, look at my wallet, nothing there. I only brought $ and I'm sorry I misunderstood you. Folks, I didn't lose my temper, was nice the whole time, honestly apologetic, etc. She eventually had to give up because, well, I didn't have any more money. She wasn't going to get water from a rock.

Was in there a total of 25 minutes. (strike 3).

I mean, come on.

Will DEFINITELY not repeat.

Like I said, I know some of you guys will disagree with me on this, but seriously. Not every provider is reviewed and there is no sure fire way to know before hand what will be offered. It's hit or miss sometimes. And the providers should be aware that not every guy wants FS. If they are going to advertise they do "massage", then they should be willing to give the full hour (or at least 50 minutes).

This provider is advertising on CL with the title "downtown" and a whole bunch of hearts of something. I'm not going to bother looking it up right now.

Hope this was a little helpful to people.

I'm honestly not trying to start a big argument or anything. Just my perspective.[/QUOTE]Are you always looking for discounted services? Maybe their on to you? Some of the providers are old vets in the industry and can smell "Cheap Charlie" a mile away. I thought I took a whiff in the last couple of paragraphs. The aforementioned provider is one of those gals.

You can bs some of the people some of the time but not all the time.

[QUOTE=Somehaole; 1397044]I've seen several providers in the past few weeks. I'll report all at once.

Candy at rejuve. L / S/A. 5/7/7 Not really my cup of tea. Older provider, not terribly attractive to me. Relatively good massage, but again, not exactly what I like. Plenty of people...[/QUOTE]She looks hot. Chinese you said? Wonder if speaks Cantonese or Mandarin?

[QUOTE=Bobby Gunn; 1397153]Are you always looking for discounted services? Maybe their on to you? Some of the providers are old vets in the industry and can smell "Cheap Charlie" a mile away. I thought I took a whiff in the last couple of paragraphs. The aforementioned provider is one of those gals.

You can bs some of the people some of the time but not all the time.[/QUOTE]No, you seriously misunderstood me. I'm not looking for any kind of discount. I bring enough for what I'm interested in. If I want a massage + he, I bring $. Not one time have I ever had a provider complain about that. If I want FS, I'll be damn sure to bring enough. This is a business transaction. There is a price for the service and I intend to pay that price.

If I was fishing for discounts and not getting them, I certainly wouldn't be wasting my time crying about it here.

Perhaps I wasn't clear.

Said her name was Keke. Could be the Keke / Annie that was kicked out of Century Square. Offers boom-boom service, but waste money, dead fish and lame-est massage ever!

[QUOTE=Somehaole; 1397044]I've seen several providers in the past few weeks. I'll report all at once.

Candy at rejuve. L / S/A. 5/7/7 Not really my cup of tea. Older provider, not terribly attractive to me. Relatively good massage, but again, not exactly what I like. Plenty of people have reviewed her. Some like her, some not so much. HJ finish that was just OK. Nothing memorable. Won't repeat.

Kay at Thai Hawaiian. Rankings don't mean much to me because there's no play. She does give a good massage, which is why I went. I asked for strong, which was a mistake. She is VERY strong and I walked out pretty sore. Next time will ask for medium. She is quite friendly and does try hard to give a good massage. Would recommend for legit massage, but make sure to give her feedback about pressure.

Miya. Advertised on BP. I think she went back to California already. L / S/A. 7/8/10. Honestly, one of the sweetest women I've ever met. Chinese, about 5'1" or so. A little chunky, no ass, smallish tits, but SO NICE. I'm serious about that. Really, really nice. Smiled the whole time. No discussion of money. Pretty good massage, not great, but pretty good. After massage, started this very slow and sensual kissing down by spine. It felt so wonderful. Then, she started the rimming. It was fantastic. She really went to town and really got in to it. You guy might think this is amusing, but she got so into it, that I started to worry she was a tranny. Seriously. I actually stopped her so I could roll over and check between her legs. Whew. All woman there. Very wet, nice and tight. FIV was fine. She seemed to enjoy it. Went to get a condom for CBJ and I stopped her. Said I didn't have enough with me for FS. She said, that's ok. Don't worry about it. Just enjoy. And I did. Very good, very nice, very relaxing. Would definitely repeat, but she's gone back to Cali. Here's the thing though, no kissing at all. Which, was kind of OK since she just stuck her tongue half way up my colon, but I don't get providers that will give a rim but then no kissing. I just wonder if she avoided it because of the rim and she didn't want to gross me out? Anyway, great session. I normally don't go for FS (which is why I didn't have the funds with me) , but she was quite convincing.

Some chick at Bishop Executive Center. Here's my rant. I was so pissed that I didn't bother to remember her name. Now, I know a lot of you folks are going to disagree with me, but just bear with me for a minute. I like trying new providers (look at my previous reports) and that is fun to me. But I rarely do FS. I prefer massage + he. The problem is, there's no good way to figure out from ads what is available and what the provider expects. Even FS places will list all these massage types on their ads. Come on, those providers don't know the difference between lomi lomi and acupuncture and couldn't do either if their life depended on it. Some of the ads are fairly obvious. If there's a half-naked chick in the ad, then odds are it is FS. But then you have other places trying to entice people by making it looks like more is available (I'm looking at you TH) while the FS places are trying to entice people by making it look like they do real massage. So, what's an uninformed guy supposed to do?

The problem comes in when you go to a place where they are expecting FS, but you only want a HJ. The provider gets frustrated, cuts the massage short, gives a lame HE, and then asks for too much money. I can understand things from the provider's standpoint, but come on. We work hard for our money. What are we supposed to do, walk in and say,"He, I'm not LE, but I'm wondering if you will let me bang you or just give me an HE? Because I only brought enough for HE but want the full hour massage." That's obviously not going to work.

Honestly, cutting the massage short is my biggest pet peeve. I'm paying the money, they should provide the service. If they don't want to only do massage, then make it clear from the beginning or drop the BS fake massage ads. It's really, really frustrating to me.

I'm honest to a fault with providers. If they start giving FS and I don't have the funds, I stop them and tell them. I always tell the provider what I have to make sure it is enough. I don't want to cheat anyone. When Angie was at GB, she started with a BJ and I stopped her, said I only had $. She thanked me a LOT, said a lot of guys won't say anything and then give her too little money. She gave me a great HE and treated me very well each time I went there.

The woman I mentioned above, same thing. Told her how much I had and she said it was OK, don't worry. I have actually had that happen with several providers where they provided me with discounted services because I was honest up front. These providers appreciate the honesty. I'm not trying to rip anyone off.

So, this chick at bishop. Nice body, Chinese, no ass at all. Pleasant enough personality. Gave a pretty relaxing massage that I enjoyed. On the flip, asked what I wanted. I said that I didn't bring enough for everything. She said FS $$. I said I had half that. To me, it then sounded like she said HJ $. Said OK and she gave me a so so HJ. After dressed, put the money on the table. She picked it up and counted it (strike 1). She said that she told me HJ was $.2. I said, well, I didn't understand her and I told her I only had $. She started giving me a hard time about it (strike 2). I said, look at my wallet, nothing there. I only brought $ and I'm sorry I misunderstood you. Folks, I didn't lose my temper, was nice the whole time, honestly apologetic, etc. She eventually had to give up because, well, I didn't have any more money. She wasn't going to get water from a rock.

Was in there a total of 25 minutes. (strike 3).

I mean, come on.

Will DEFINITELY not repeat.

Like I said, I know some of you guys will disagree with me on this, but seriously. Not every provider is reviewed and there is no sure fire way to know before hand what will be offered. It's hit or miss sometimes. And the providers should be aware that not every guy wants FS. If they are going to advertise they do "massage", then they should be willing to give the full hour (or at least 50 minutes).

This provider is advertising on CL with the title "downtown" and a whole bunch of hearts of something. I'm not going to bother looking it up right now.

Hope this was a little helpful to people.

I'm honestly not trying to start a big argument or anything. Just my perspective.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Asstro;1397470]Said her name was Keke. Could be the Keke / Annie that was kicked out of Century Square. Offers boom-boom service, but waste money, dead fish and lame-est massage ever![/QUOTE]Wow, this is the one who allegedly stole from the Chinese girl working out of her place last year? Was wondering whatever happened to her operation. No news of her since the scandal.

[QUOTE=russguy;1395625]I finally got through on the appointment form and will see Nala next week. Can someone confirm for me that the fee for 1 hour is $.20?[/QUOTE]No! It's. 60 an hour, $.20 should be for 2 hours. .90 for 1/2 hours. The fee's are listed on her web page. I give her. 10-20 tip. Because the place is always clean, there are always fresh towels and she changes the sheets all the time. I've come out of the shower after every massage, and she is in the massage room changing the sheets. I like that so I think an extra tip is ok. I'm not saying you have too, this is my reason for trying to help her help me and that I appreciate the clean place.

[QUOTE=Somehaole; 1397182]No, you seriously misunderstood me. I'm not looking for any kind of discount. I bring enough for what I'm interested in. If I want a massage + he, I bring $. Not one time have I ever had a provider complain about that. If I want FS, I'll be damn sure to bring enough. This is a business transaction. There is a price for the service and I intend to pay that price.

If I was fishing for discounts and not getting them, I certainly wouldn't be wasting my time crying about it here.

Perhaps I wasn't clear.[/QUOTE]This is how I read your paragraph:

"The woman I mentioned above, same thing. Told her how much I had and she said it was OK, don't worry. I have actually had that happen with several providers where they provided me with discounted services because I was honest up front. These providers appreciate the honesty. I'm not trying to rip anyone off."

Did I misread something in the paragraph above? You make reference to this happening to you several times, honesty up front for discounted services. You go in to the engagement letting them know this is all you have hoping to get the full pop. I've done it a number of times. I'm not saying its a bad approach but don't get salty if a provider calls you on it.

You were very clear and she called you on it and now your giving her bad reviews. Some providers have been around the block and your approach is not a new one.

What your approach leads to is providers asking for money up front for services which is shitty for all of us.

She also does not answer the phone while she is with a customer which is a good thing.

[QUOTE=Ocolumbo;1397126]She don't work Sundays and Tuesdays.[/QUOTE]Quote Originally Posted by Bono888 [View Original Post]

Is it me or does junko never answers her phone. Been trying to get through to her for a while but no luck.

[QUOTE=Bobby Gunn; 1397947]This is how I read your paragraph:

"The woman I mentioned above, same thing. Told her how much I had and she said it was OK, don't worry. I have actually had that happen with several providers where they provided me with discounted services because I was honest up front. These providers appreciate the honesty. I'm not trying to rip anyone off."

Did I misread something in the paragraph above? You make reference to this happening to you several times, honesty up front for discounted services. You go in to the engagement letting them know this is all you have hoping to get the full pop. I've done it a number of times. I'm not saying its a bad approach but don't get salty if a provider calls you on it.

You were very clear and she called you on it and now your giving her bad reviews. Some providers have been around the block and your approach is not a new one.

What your approach leads to is providers asking for money up front for services which is shitty for all of us.[/QUOTE]I went to her expecting a HJ. I took the appropriate amount of money. She started BJ. I stopped her, said I didn't bring enough for FS, just enough for HJ. She said, don't worry, let's have fun.

Now, how exactly did I mislead in an effort to get a discount? I didn't tell her expecting to get anything other than a HJ. I wanted to be honest since I knew I couldn't pay her FS price and certainly wasn't going to cheat her. Explain again how that could possibly lead to shitty service.

Based on what you are saying, there are only two options. 1) bring enough for FS everytime and do it even if you don't want to or 2) don't stop her, get FS, then only pay what you have.

I don't expect anything more than what I bring money for. THIS particular provider said it was fine, no worry. Would U-turn that down? I doubt it.

The bottom line is this. I bring enough for what I want. If the provider starts doing more, I explain I don't have enough for that and only want what I brought money for. I can't figure out for the life of me how that could lead to shitty service for anyone.

I've explain this twice. I figure that is enough wasted time. If you want to keep quoting something that you didn't understand or that I wasn't clear about, be my guest. But I suspect everything should be clear by now.

[QUOTE=Bobby Gunn; 1397947]This is how I read your paragraph:

"The woman I mentioned above, same thing. Told her how much I had and she said it was OK, don't worry. I have actually had that happen with several providers where they provided me with discounted services because I was honest up front. These providers appreciate the honesty. I'm not trying to rip anyone off."

Did I misread something in the paragraph above? You make reference to this happening to you several times, honesty up front for discounted services. You go in to the engagement letting them know this is all you have hoping to get the full pop. I've done it a number of times. I'm not saying its a bad approach but don't get salty if a provider calls you on it.

You were very clear and she called you on it and now your giving her bad reviews. Some providers have been around the block and your approach is not a new one.

What your approach leads to is providers asking for money up front for services which is shitty for all of us.[/QUOTE]Agree with this why girls ask for money up front. AMP that offer FS are really there for that. If I want less than FS I go to a MT. I go to a AMP with full amount.

[QUOTE=Bobby Gunn; 1397947]This is how I read your paragraph:

"The woman I mentioned above, same thing. Told her how much I had and she said it was OK, don't worry. I have actually had that happen with several providers where they provided me with discounted services because I was honest up front. These providers appreciate the honesty. I'm not trying to rip anyone off."

Did I misread something in the paragraph above? You make reference to this happening to you several times, honesty up front for discounted services. You go in to the engagement letting them know this is all you have hoping to get the full pop. I've done it a number of times. I'm not saying its a bad approach but don't get salty if a provider calls you on it.

You were very clear and she called you on it and now your giving her bad reviews. Some providers have been around the block and your approach is not a new one.

What your approach leads to is providers asking for money up front for services which is shitty for all of us.[/QUOTE]He is saying he brings enough if he wants a HJ and he would bring more if he wants FS. Sometimes provider gives him FS after he tells them he has only brought enough for HJ. I did not get the impression he was actually shooting for FS at discounted price.

However, his modus operendi (sp) has built in problems. First is there really a commonly accepted cost of a HJ? If not he may come up short like in this situation unless we don't give the benefit of the doubt to her insistence on twenty bucks more. And discussing at the last minute what service is wanted is also fraught with problems. Granted a new customer with a new MT cannot talk about service until the last minute. So upfront is really last minute. And either it could go well, where a provider attracted to him may give him FS at discount, or an indifferent provider gives HJ as he expects, or a bad situation like what just happened to him where she expected FS and did not care for giving HJ.

I can understand if someone actually cares for a good massage. I can give the benefit of the doubt to him for his claim of sincerity. But the whole situation of uncertainty at MP with uncertain HE shows through very clearly in his story. It is like the mainland MPs I read about on other cities' forums. Both parties not sure of what service and how much. Need for negotiation. It is just bull shit compared to FS AMPs and relaxation places.

[QUOTE=Ocolumbo; 1398063]He is saying he brings enough if he wants a HJ and he would bring more if he wants FS. Sometimes provider gives him FS after he tells them he has only brought enough for HJ. I did not get the impression he was actually shooting for FS at discounted price.

However, his modus operendi (sp) has built in problems. First is there really a commonly accepted cost of a HJ? If not he may come up short like in this situation unless we don't give the benefit of the doubt to her insistence on twenty bucks more. And discussing at the last minute what service is wanted is also fraught with problems. Granted a new customer with a new MT cannot talk about service until the last minute. So upfront is really last minute. And either it could go well, where a provider attracted to him may give him FS at discount, or an indifferent provider gives HJ as he expects, or a bad situation like what just happened to him where she expected FS and did not care for giving HJ.

I can understand if someone actually cares for a good massage. I can give the benefit of the doubt to him for his claim of sincerity. But the whole situation of uncertainty at MP with uncertain HE shows through very clearly in his story. It is like the mainland MPs I read about on other cities' forums. Both parties not sure of what service and how much. Need for negotiation. It is just bull shit compared to FS AMPs and relaxation places.[/QUOTE]This was pretty much the bigger point of my post. It is the nature of mt places. I've read a hundred times on this forum to only take what you plan to spend. And we have all had the hard upsell (hf + $ tip for Nikki's he? Get real). I went to a very well known provider once (my first time with her) and on the flip when she asked if I wanted he I told her I had enough for. 5 tip and was that enough. She kind of freaked and thought I might be LE. She wanted no discussion of money. It worked out in the end, but that just shows how difficult this can be.

That is why I believe honesty is the best. Take what seems to be the standard price, ask if that is ok. If its not, then no he for me. No harm no foul. What else is a guy supposed to do other than take a ton of cash and pay whatever they want?

By the way, I wasn't knocking this provider for wanting $.2. That's fine. I think it was just honest miscommunication. I thought she understood what I was willing to pay and she thought I understood how much she wanted. I did feel bad about that. What pissed me off was cutting the massage to 25 minutes. $.2 for a 25 minute mediocre massage plus mediocre he? No way. That was the real issue that pissed me off. If I fully understood the situation, I would have declined the he and paid for the massage and walked. Even. 6 for 25 minute massage is absurd.

Like I said, this is a business transaction. I pay the money and they provide the service. If they cut the service in half, why should I have to pay the full amount? We have all been there and most of us paid anyway (including me. Everytime). Again, just the nature of the hobby. But the girls that do that rarely get good reviews. That was the main point. That cutting it short is much more likely to happen if they expect FS. But with a new girl, it's hard to know what to expect. To avoid wasting both our time, I do my best to stay away from FS massage type places, like mayflower. But knowing what will happen with a new girl is really difficult.

In my mind, paying too much for half ass service is the real driver behind higher prices. Not my honesty about my funds. If this provider can get $.2 for a 25 minute massage + he, where is the inventive to ever give the full hour?

I talk too much. Sorry. Just trying to clarify what the issues are in my eyes.

I'm not a vet at this. Started fairly recently. And sometimes it feels like a minefield.

[QUOTE=Ocolumbo;1397643]Wow, this is the one who allegedly stole from the Chinese girl working out of her place last year? Was wondering whatever happened to her operation. No news of her since the scandal.[/QUOTE]Keke again why am I not surprised!

What's the controversy again? $100 is standard tip for HJ without prior negotiation, right?

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1398506]What's the controversy again? $100 is standard tip for HJ without prior negotiation, right?[/QUOTE]Yeah whats wrong with that?

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1398506]What's the controversy again? $100 is standard tip for HJ without prior negotiation, right?[/QUOTE]I assume you mean. 5 for the massage and. 5 in tip for a total of $.

[QUOTE=Somehaole; 1398325]This was pretty much the bigger point of my post. It is the nature of mt places. I've read a hundred times on this forum to only take what you plan to spend. And we have all had the hard upsell (hf + $ tip for Nikki's he? Get real). I went to a very well known provider once (my first time with her) and on the flip when she asked if I wanted he I told her I had enough for. 5 tip and was that enough. She kind of freaked and thought I might be LE. She wanted no discussion of money. It worked out in the end, but that just shows how difficult this can be.

That is why I believe honesty is the best. Take what seems to be the standard price, ask if that is ok. If its not, then no he for me. No harm no foul. What else is a guy supposed to do other than take a ton of cash and pay whatever they want?

By the way, I wasn't knocking this provider for wanting $.2. That's fine. I think it was just honest miscommunication. I thought she understood what I was willing to pay and she thought I understood how much she wanted. I did feel bad about that. What pissed me off was cutting the massage to 25 minutes. $.2 for a 25 minute mediocre massage plus mediocre he? No way. That was the real issue that pissed me off. If I fully understood the situation, I would have declined the he and paid for the massage and walked. Even. 6 for 25 minute massage is absurd.

Like I said, this is a business transaction. I pay the money and they provide the service. If they cut the service in half, why should I have to pay the full amount? We have all been there and most of us paid anyway (including me. Everytime). Again, just the nature of the hobby. But the girls that do that rarely get good reviews. That was the main point. That cutting it short is much more likely to happen if they expect FS. But with a new girl, it's hard to know what to expect. To avoid wasting both our time, I do my best to stay away from FS massage type places, like mayflower. But knowing what will happen with a new girl is really difficult.

In my mind, paying too much for half ass service is the real driver behind higher prices. Not my honesty about my funds. If this provider can get $.2 for a 25 minute massage + he, where is the inventive to ever give the full hour?

I talk too much. Sorry. Just trying to clarify what the issues are in my eyes.

I'm not a vet at this. Started fairly recently. And sometimes it feels like a minefield.[/QUOTE]Ive spent the last few days in Costa Rica and the ticas would be on to you in a heartbeat, likewise, the columbianas. Your experiences have too much thinking into the hobby for me, dude. Good luck......Cheap Charlie

[QUOTE=russguy;1395625]I finally got through on the appointment form and will see Nala next week. Can someone confirm for me that the fee for 1 hour is $.20?[/QUOTE]If you think Nala is hard to get through to, just try making an appt. With Lucy at C C. She has a NEW sugar daddy and he really

Spolis her with whatever her little heart desires like a new audi-car in her name and diamonds, clothes and etc. Lucy works when she feels like it which is how these girls with sugar daddys operate. I am going to keep trying. Lucy is worth the challenge. Sometimes when it is difficult to get a certain lady it is because she has a SUGAR daddy.

[QUOTE=On The Prowl;1398371]Keke again why am I not surprised![/QUOTE]I'm not surprised either. She has that reputation.

What is the standard for an Independent MT massage and BJ massage with FS?

$ for Massage and BJ correct?

$.50 for massage and FS correct?

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1398506]What's the controversy again? $100 is standard tip for HJ without prior negotiation, right?[/QUOTE]

I'm trying to track down one of my old ATFs, Bebe, who used to work with Lilly at Ideal Massage in CC. Just wondering if anyone here knows about her current whereabouts?

I know she moved out of state awhile back. I talked to her on her cel when she was living in Los Angeles, last year, but she flaked out on me when I tried to set up a meeting. She later changed her cel number. I checked with Lilly recently and she told me that Bebe is now living in Vegas, so I'm hoping to run into her over there because I'm planning on going next month.

So, if anyone has seen her in Vegas, or knows if she's working up there, please drop me a pm.

Mahalo!

[QUOTE=Ck813; 1399399]What is the standard for an Independent MT massage and BJ massage with FS?

$ for Massage and BJ correct?

$.50 for massage and FS correct?[/QUOTE]That's not including house fee of either 60 or 50 depending which spot you go to.

Tip / My scale / including massage good or not / not including hf.

HJ 40.

BJ / HJ 60.

BBBJ / HJ 70.

BBBJ / HJ cim 80.

FS 140/150 depending on house fee.

[QUOTE=NelsonYuen;1399363]I'm not surprised either. She has that reputation.[/QUOTE]Did anybody find out if that was true?

I saw her a lot, till that happened!

You mean Nikki from thai hawn? If you are into nice round implants with big dark nipples. She's the one to go to IMHO.

[QUOTE=Somehaole; 1398325]This was pretty much the bigger point of my post. It is the nature of mt places. I've read a hundred times on this forum to only take what you plan to spend. And we have all had the hard upsell (hf + $ tip for Nikki's he? Get real). I went to a very well known provider once (my first time with her) and on the flip when she asked if I wanted he I told her I had enough for. 5 tip and was that enough. She kind of freaked and thought I might be LE. She wanted no discussion of money. It worked out in the end, but that just shows how difficult this can be.

That is why I believe honesty is the best. Take what seems to be the standard price, ask if that is ok. If its not, then no he for me. No harm no foul. What else is a guy supposed to do other than take a ton of cash and pay whatever they want?

By the way, I wasn't knocking this provider for wanting $.2. That's fine. I think it was just honest miscommunication. I thought she understood what I was willing to pay and she thought I understood how much she wanted. I did feel bad about that. What pissed me off was cutting the massage to 25 minutes. $.2 for a 25 minute mediocre massage plus mediocre he? No way. That was the real issue that pissed me off. If I fully understood the situation, I would have declined the he and paid for the massage and walked. Even. 6 for 25 minute massage is absurd.

Like I said, this is a business transaction. I pay the money and they provide the service. If they cut the service in half, why should I have to pay the full amount? We have all been there and most of us paid anyway (including me. Everytime). Again, just the nature of the hobby. But the girls that do that rarely get good reviews. That was the main point. That cutting it short is much more likely to happen if they expect FS. But with a new girl, it's hard to know what to expect. To avoid wasting both our time, I do my best to stay away from FS massage type places, like mayflower. But knowing what will happen with a new girl is really difficult.

In my mind, paying too much for half ass service is the real driver behind higher prices. Not my honesty about my funds. If this provider can get $.2 for a 25 minute massage + he, where is the inventive to ever give the full hour?

I talk too much. Sorry. Just trying to clarify what the issues are in my eyes.

I'm not a vet at this. Started fairly recently. And sometimes it feels like a minefield.[/QUOTE]

Went to MF today and they got the new table. Well they are actually beds. Pretty comfy and a lot easier to manuever. Yoyo asked if I liked it and if it was too high. Told her it was perfect height, whatever that means. It was really comfortable and lot of fun with Sunni. Will do a separate report on Sunni. Yoyo said beds came in today. Yoyo was all dolled up today look really cute. She gave me the usual intimate hug while I copped a feel of her cute tush and boobs. All I can say it was pretty crowded when I was there this afternoon. When I left had about 4 pairs of men's shoes out there. Try out those beds brothers!

I try to keep prices as low as possible and don't advocate over tipping MTs. I just try to reward good service by seeing the girls more times. The lower I pay, the more often I can afford to see them. Remember, Hawaii prices are way above the normal prices charged on the West Coast, so don't feel bad. Why should we pay the Hawaii tax (the higher cost of living in Hawaii) in these tough economic times?

My general rule is 100 total out the door for a massage and HJ. Depending on the girl, if I liked her, I'd kick in an extra 20 for a BJ, but it's usually either just a HJ or FS for me. I never just stop with a BJ, if they are down for the sucking, they are down for the fucking LOL.

For the Chinese MTs that offer FS in CC, I always pay 140 total, for the more popular places like Kison or places that have hotter girls, I'll pay house (50) and then tip 120 for 170 total. I try to never pay more than 170 total for FS.

Most of the mamas that I talk to say that the business is really slow nowdays. That's why the mamas are just happy to get good customers in the door that are repeat customers. Be nice, polite and they will love you. The girls too are generally happy with what I tip. I'm sure there are some bitchy ones out there that are used to getting 140 but if they complain, I tell them next time, but there won't be a next time. Guys, it's a buyer's market. Let's keep the tipping in check.

Aloha!

[QUOTE=Ck813; 1399399]What is the standard for an Independent MT massage and BJ massage with FS?

$ for Massage and BJ correct?

$.50 for massage and FS correct?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eric Shin;1399847]You mean Nikki from thai hawn? If you are into nice round implants with big dark nipples. She's the one to go to IMHO.[/QUOTE]Nikki left Thai Hawaiian about one month ago and is now working at Lucy's (aka Noi) place. #2403.

[QUOTE=Blake123;1400348]Nikki left Thai Hawaiian about one month ago and is now working at Lucy's (aka Noi) place. #2403.[/QUOTE]Saw her 3 times. Never had any luck.

Had a good session with Naomi but a better session with Gia this week. OMG Gia is one hot Chinese babe. There are many reports on Gia so no sense going over her looks. To me MILF provides the best service and young girls fulfill my fantasy but their service is not as attentive as MILFs however Gia is a excellent blend of both. Will I repeat? That is a most definite yes got see her before she goes on vacation one more time.

Naomi is pretty to me. She has a sweet look and her body is very nice. Service wise she didn't permit certain things that others reported but I guess that all depends on who the customer is which will determine what she will allow or not.

Standard fees, HF $60 and tips $140.

Got a glimpse of Sunni as I was leaving and she is a spinner and kind of cute from what I could see.

MF is a really nice and clean place not to mention a very friendly MS Yoyo, I think I found my new MT / AMP.

Went to check out Springtime, as Candy told me a new girl was there. I go to see about twice a month as I like her style of massage, hard and almost unforgiving. Anyway, I meet the new girl (woman) Nana and first thing that strikes me is how short she is. I would guess 4'10 and would guess is in her late 30's to early 40's. Very pleasant and low keyed, has a cute enough face, could pass for YoYo's older sister or even mother. Massage was okay, but not hard like Candy's. Did the whole body, front and back for a good 40 minutes. After massaging the head (which I love) , put her face right into mine and started to play with the boys. Began doing light kissing on my nips and proceeded down to please jr with a BBBJ. As she was tiny, she could only take in part of jr, but she gave it a good try. Shake asked if I was ready for boom boom, I told her that the table was too small, soi put the towel on the ground and it was much more comfortable. Nana has A size cups, a pooch in the middle, but noti fat. She actually took all of my jr in and it took a while but she eventually got into it. Did everything covered, mainly in MISH as I was afraid to try any other

Went to check out Springtime, as Candy told me a new girl was there. I go to see about twice a month as I like her style of massage, hard and almost unforgiving. Anyway, I meet the new girl (woman) Nana and first thing that strikes me is how short she is. I would guess 4'10 and would guess is in her late 30's to early 40's. Very pleasant and low keyed, has a cute enough face, could pass for YoYo's older sister or even mother. Massage was okay, but not hard like Candy's. Did the whole body, front and back for a good 40 minutes. After massaging the head (which I love) , put her face right into mine and started to play with the boys. Began doing light kissing on my nips and proceeded down to please jr with a BBBJ. As she was tiny, she could only take in part of jr, but she gave it a good try. Shake asked if I was ready for boom boom, I told her that the table was too small, so I put the towel on the ground and it was much more comfortable. Nana has A size cups, a pooch in the middle, but noti fat. She actually took all of my jr in and it took a while but she eventually got into it. Did everything covered, mainly in MISH as I was afraid to try any other positions for fear of crushing her. She is service oriented so I would recommend her especially if you like Chinese spinner MILFs. L / A/S. 5/8/9. Would repeat only because she was so nice, would not repeat because she is too tiny for me.

Wondering if ANGEL Relaxation Room 109 in CC is legit massage, HE HJ only or extra extra FS.

[url]http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/n-e-wbeautiful-and-excellent-full-body-relaxing-massage-25/3244216[/url]

U kno what, nevermind. I just went back & checked Isle Of Man's list of CC legit & extra so thanks again for that brother haha.

I called for the girl in the ad holding up 2 fingers shooting the peace sign. She is off for a month the lady said. She said the other cutie in the pic is there. Anyone partake?

[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck; 1400828]Wondering if ANGEL Relaxation Room 109 in CC is legit massage, HE HJ only or extra extra FS.

[url]http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/n-e-wbeautiful-and-excellent-full-body-relaxing-massage-25/3244216[/url]

U kno what, nevermind. I just went back & checked Isle Of Man's list of CC legit & extra so thanks again for that brother haha.

I called for the girl in the ad holding up 2 fingers shooting the peace sign. She is off for a month the lady said. She said the other cutie in the pic is there. Anyone partake?[/QUOTE]Unless things have changed there recently, the girls there have never been that cute or that young IMHO

K, fellas, I decided to post the short version since it took me forever to type out the long version and for some reason it never auto-saved and never posted.

Went to see Sunni at MF. So far, in my limited amount of mongering, she was my best in terms of overall satisfaction. 5'3. 5'4, no more than 100lbs, nice legs, C fakies, small but tight booty. Shower, then straight to BBBJ, DATY, CG, RCG, then sitting up facing each other (not sure if this is lotus) to pop. Cleaned up, gave me massage, then a little more play. Yoyo knocked. Had to get quickly dressed because Sunni had another customer. No problem. Yoyo apologized but she let me grope her butt and tits before I left. Gave Sunni a little kiss and told her I will be back. By far the best session I have had. Sunni rocks. She is a lot of fun, accomodating, willing to please and likes her job. I'm going back as soon as I have some time. Saw Gia in the hallway and she looked fine as hell. 3-way with Gia and Sunni would be sweet. Hey I can dream can't I? L: 9. 5, A: 10, S: 9. 5 (no DFK but not a deal breaker for me).

Braddahman