Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=BuddyHeld11;7432856]I don't have a crystal ball, but my gut tells me the status quo will hold. Club owners don't have the financial juice to lobby and any proposed changes by a new administration would unquestionably go public and cause an unwanted ruckus. [URL]https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/2010/02/detroit_detroit_city_council_v.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]My crystal ball says the probability of a more lenient approach to extras in clubs inside the city under a Sheffield administration is zero.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;7430694]From the reports, it's look to be the higher end clubs (FC, BT's, LS).[/QUOTE]I've never been to BTs. FC and LS are all about robs. At an honest club like H8 and Bogies you can say "I'm not going to pay", and leave. At FC and LS, they have your car keys, and perhaps your coat, so you can't leave. Those clubs will always side with the dancer. That's why robs like working at FC and LS. They don't care if you'll never come back, their business model is to have hot girls, and the fish (you) will follow.

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[QUOTE=LookingAround;7433205][URL]https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/strippers-reveal-recession-signs-in-industry-downturn.6015023/[/URL][/QUOTE]Local economy in Detroit metro is pretty bleak as are many areas of the country. Even just local bars / restaurants are in a downturn as this unfortunate reality isn't just effectig stripclubs. When there is less disposable income for most everyone it hurts most all business. Supply / Demand issue in 2025.

[QUOTE=BuddyHeld11;7432856]I don't have a crystal ball, but my gut tells me the status quo will hold. Club owners don't have the financial juice to lobby and any proposed changes by a new administration would unquestionably go public and cause an unwanted ruckus. [URL]https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/2010/02/detroit_detroit_city_council_v.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]That article was from 2010 and the crackdowns really didn't start until Duggan's re-election in 2017. But to your point we will never go back to the clubs as we knew them. The ministries have a lot of influence in the city council and eliminating strip clubs and prostitution are high priorities.

[QUOTE=LookingAround;7433205][URL]https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/strippers-reveal-recession-signs-in-industry-downturn.6015023/[/URL][/QUOTE]Local economy in Detroit metro is pretty bleak as are many areas of the country. Even just local bars / restaurants are in a downturn as this unfortunate reality isn't just effectig stripclubs. When there is less disposable income for most everyone it hurts most all business. Supply / Demand issue in 2025.

[QUOTE=Stewy56;7433779]Local economy in Detroit metro is pretty bleak as are many areas of the country. Even just local bars / restaurants are in a downturn as this unfortunate reality isn't just effectig stripclubs. When there is less disposable income for most everyone it hurts most all business. Supply / Demand issue in 2025.[/QUOTE]All,

I have posted this before, but I will reiterate it.

When there is a downturn in the economy more girls turn to stripping, so there is a better selection and better choices. New girls who would have folded sweaters or flipped burgers give stripping a try. There is an increase in the supply of girls willing to be strippers.

Normally the laws of supply and demand dictate that when supply goes up and demand remains constant, prices drop. In this case demand does not remain constant because many guys who like to be with strippers can't afford the clubs. So at the same time there are more girls selling their services, there are less guys willing to buy their services. Again one would think increased supply and lower demand means lower prices.

But it does not. The reason being when there is an increase in supply of girls dancing and the girl wants to get paid $300, she might get 1 customer. Some savvy girls will drop their price point and see 3 guys at $200, pocketing $600, where as the $300 price point girl only sees 1 guy so she walks away from $300.

When demand drops so the are not 3 guys willing to spend $200. There is only 1 guy willing to spend $200. The girls choice becomes sell her services for $300 or sell her services for $200. The choice is obvious even for not very bright strippers. If she thinks you will be her only client she needs to make all of her money off of you, keeping her price higher. She is not doing this to lose money or because you are good looking.

Recession equals a new time of plenty for those mongers with the cash to enjoy it. As there are many more girls and girls willing to spend quality time and give extra good service to try and create a regular. Regulars are few and far between with so few guys being able to afford to go to the club. The prices remain high because of this dynamic.

MM.

[QUOTE=DetroitLife;7433822]eliminating strip clubs and prostitution are high priorities.[/QUOTE]DL,

I am trying to understand why. I would think they shouldn't care about strip clubs.

They should be concerned with robberies, shooting, murders, rapes, not the amount of underwear a girl is wearing or if she is wiggling it on your lap.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7434266]DL,

I am trying to understand why. I would think they shouldn't care about strip clubs.

They should be concerned with robberies, shooting, murders, rapes, not the amount of underwear a girl is wearing or if she is wiggling it on your lap.

MM.[/QUOTE]Amen! With inflation out of control and tax revenues dwindling in many municipalities eliminating strip clubs and prostitution should be as low as seat belt enforcement. Less clubs = more street walkers and less taxable revenue in most cases. Detroit and the metro area has never been known as the bible belt. BTW, fundamentalist Mormons are still a "religion" last I knew.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7434263]All,

Again one would think increased supply and lower demand means lower prices.



MM.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your analysis, but this part is not correct. Increased supply and decreased demand would tend to offset each other.

Iv'e never known of a non extra's dancer lasting more than a few months, if they are really hot or are 18-19 years old they might get some dances only from the occasional guys for a few months but that is going to dry up real fast once the word gets out.

Non extra dancers are better off at Deja Vu.

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;7434541]Iv'e never known of a non extra's dancer lasting more than a few months, if they are really hot or are 18-19 years old they might get some dances only from the occasional guys for a few months but that is going to dry up real fast once the word gets out.

Non extra dancers are better off at Deja Vu.[/QUOTE]+1.

How many times have we heard "I don't have to do extras, because I make enough tips on stage"? Once word gets out that they don't do anything, they can't compete anymore and it's decision time for them, because those tips will start to dry up.

[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;7434532]I appreciate your analysis, but this part is not correct. Increased supply and decreased demand would tend to offset each other.[/QUOTE]Never mind, brain somewhere esle.

[QUOTE=DetroitLife;7433822]That article was from 2010 and the crackdowns really didn't start until Duggan's re-election in 2017. But to your point we will never go back to the clubs as we knew them. The ministries have a lot of influence in the city council and eliminating strip clubs and prostitution are high priorities.[/QUOTE]This is correct. Although duggan needed the ministry more than sheffield will.

[QUOTE=Stewy56;7433997]Local economy in Detroit metro is pretty bleak as are many areas of the country. Even just local bars / restaurants are in a downturn as this unfortunate reality isn't just effectig stripclubs. When there is less disposable income for most everyone it hurts most all business. Supply / Demand issue in 2025.[/QUOTE]Idk at least in Livingston county where I am restaurants, bars, stores all seem busy. Went to lunch at like 2 pm Tuesday at Applebee's and almost all booths full. Sure probably a lot are using credit and making min payments but if you think it's bad now, you must of forgot 09-12' were seeing layoffs locally but not a huge amount. Hopefully things don't get to GFC levels.