Massage Parlor Reports

Well I started my monger career at the AMP's before I knew that $$ was way to much to spend when I could have gotten an escort at half the price. I've been to a few places and met with a few different ladies.

Sunny: (s / p) She was an older lady that I met at Papaya this was a year or two maybe ago first time out. I had done some online reading and thought I would try it out. She was an older lady, but she was really into it. Gave a good massage, was very relaxing durring the table shower lots and lots of tease. I hate that she left I would totally go back to see her. Now that I know what the prices are I would haggle a bit better though.

Anna: Saw her twice at Papaya and once at Lucky Spa darn my luck she is the worst of the AMP's I have had the displeasure of spending time with. She over charges for services and she is just not good at any part of the delivery. Toothy CBJ, Horrible HJ (come on that is the bread and butter how do you give a bad HJ) , and I am not even going to pay the rates she might want for FS. If you get Anna stay away.

Lucy: Saw her twice at Jing before she left recently this year. Very quite, Very strong hands she left some bruises on my back her massage is very through and her HJ is top tier. She was happy with .4 and I thought I had my new go to AMP till she left. I was very sad.

Lily: Saw her twice at Jing before she left. She was kind of like lesser version of Lucy and from what I heard she was trained by Lucy. Now she was and arm and elbow massage type for those who know what I mean she didn't really use her hands. She was upbeat and friendly but spoke little English. Nice HJ not as good as Lucy but go the job done none the less.

Jenny: I have seen her twice and she is still there. Is my new lady at Jing though her personalty is different. She like to get massages to, and does a nice bit of teasing which is good. Again she is though on the massage she is a hand and arm / elbow masseuse.

For the comments on prices you guys are right on I say walk and just take the hit. We are the customer and the customer is always right. I have no problem signing up for a Short Stay and leaving if the do not meet a price I find reasonable. I am normally not looking for FS anyways just a nice HJ.

Full service is becoming more popular in the area but its about 1. 4 plus house fee. Not sure where in Ohio but I used to visit Ohio and Pa spas and its been about $100 to $140 there for a while other than a standard HE 2 Jackson's won't get it done. I wish it would I try to negotiate every time I go but never get less than $100 for full serv.

[QUOTE=Swflaboater; 1853955]Thanks for the info. I used to frequent the AMPs (till they shut most of them down back up in Ohio. I have not frequented any in this neck of the world yet) and it has been a couple of years. However, for a tip of 2 Jacksons I would expect FS a couple of times, once on the shower table and once on the massage table. From all of the posts, doesn't seem like FS is on the menu in any of the places here (unless you are a very regular guy. Which I will admit I was at my fav AMP before it went away). If I add up the numbers, I am out $$. For the visit.

Sgt Steel to each their own! Glad you enjoyed the experience. That is what it is all about![/QUOTE]

Heading to town for the weekend from Wilmington. Only 3 locations to choose from there, and really only one is worth the time. It appears there is an abundance in CLT, but Papaya, Ambrosia and Spa 74 have the fewest negative reviews. Any suggestions on which to choose of those 3, or maybe a different one?

[QUOTE=WeaponX47;1854565]Heading to town for the weekend from Wilmington. Only 3 locations to choose from there, and really only one is worth the time. It appears there is an abundance in CLT, but Papaya, Ambrosia and Spa 74 have the fewest negative reviews. Any suggestions on which to choose of those 3, or maybe a different one?[/QUOTE]You may want to be more specific about what you are looking for. Different places have different fortes.

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[QUOTE=Sully15; 1855023]You may want to be more specific about what you are looking for. Different places have different fortes.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5365-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=1582171#post1582171[/url][/QUOTE]Agree with Sully, RTF, I've read more positive reports of both Galaxy and Midori of late. Of course Midori is the more expensive but I guess you get what you pay for.

Haven't seen any reviews for Afforci up in Concord but in case anyone was wondering. Strictly legit, fully draped, not even an accidental brush of the boys. Massage was awesome, but no hot towel wipe down. Good enough for a future return. Ad says they are moving next month, closer to Charlotte.

[url]http://charlotte.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relax-with-us-on-saturday-nice-private-environment-45-special/14224167[/url]

[QUOTE=Corvette704;1853015]I agree. We need to start walking if we are not getting the service we want at a fair price. I have threatened to walk a number of times and I always was able to get them down to what I wanted to pay. We need to take control and set the prices.[/QUOTE]If the guys were able to set the prices for the Providers, then it wouldn't be worth it for a Provider to be in this Business. There has to be a Fair Balance on what you guys are willing to pay and the price a Provider is charging. Are Providers overcharging for their Services? Some are. But there are some that are reasonably priced. So then the question is, What is a Reasonable Price? That's Subjective, meaning it's up to each person. My personal view is that $200 is a Fair Price for both Parties involved. In my view $200 isn't that Expensive for a Provider's Services and what I can afford. At this price you can reasonably expect a Decent Provider that will show you a Good Time. I know there are some Bad ones at this price range. Remember this isn't an exact Science. If $200 is too much to pay, then you'd be better off to find a Provider within your price range. Lowballing or asking for a Discount may work for a time. But the Girls will remember who the Cheapskates are and probably won't see you for a Future Session. Just my personal experience.

There are a couple of really good providers in the mid 100 an hour range too. There is something worth mentioning, for a girl to get the same income at a lower price she has to see more guys to make up the volume. Do you really want to be number 7 or 8 for the day? Some of the high price ones that I can't afford may only see a few guys a month, but some can afford to get the more low mileage ladies. Some aren't not getting their entire income from this and can be mid priced and provide great service too. Sometimes high prices don't equal better service but it is very rare to get good service at an extremely low price.

[QUOTE=Ron M;1855410]If the guys were able to set the prices for the Providers, then it wouldn't be worth it for a Provider to be in this Business. There has to be a Fair Balance on what you guys are willing to pay and the price a Provider is charging. Are Providers overcharging for their Services? Some are. But there are some that are reasonably priced. So then the question is, What is a Reasonable Price? That's Subjective, meaning it's up to each person. My personal view is that $200 is a Fair Price for both Parties involved. In my view $200 isn't that Expensive for a Provider's Services and what I can afford. At this price you can reasonably expect a Decent Provider that will show you a Good Time. I know there are some Bad ones at this price range. Remember this isn't an exact Science. If $200 is too much to pay, then you'd be better off to find a Provider within your price range. Lowballing or asking for a Discount may work for a time. But the Girls will remember who the Cheapskates are and probably won't see you for a Future Session. Just my personal experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NC Transplant;1855419]There are a couple of really good providers in the mid 100 an hour range too. There is something worth mentioning, for a girl to get the same income at a lower price she has to see more guys to make up the volume. Do you really want to be number 7 or 8 for the day? Some of the high price ones that I can't afford may only see a few guys a month, but some can afford to get the more low mileage ladies. Some aren't not getting their entire income from this and can be mid priced and provide great service too. Sometimes high prices don't equal better service but it is very rare to get good service at an extremely low price.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on your points. Like I said, this isn't an Exact Science. There has to be some sort of Balance between what us guys are willing to pay and what a Provider charges.

After doing some research I finally decided to try an AMP, I went to papayas and saw kay. She was close to what I was looking for as far as looks concern. I had ok nice time, an ok rub and she walked on my back. She wanted for FS 140 plus 60 for the house (30 min).

She know what she wants to get and we know what we can afford or willing to pay. If they line up that is great. If they don't we have to move on. It is that simple. I can't afford the high end ladies myself.

[QUOTE=Ron M;1855421]I agree with you on your points. Like I said, this isn't an Exact Science. There has to be some sort of Balance between what us guys are willing to pay and what a Provider charges.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ron M;1855410]If the guys were able to set the prices for the Providers, then it wouldn't be worth it for a Provider to be in this Business. There has to be a Fair Balance on what you guys are willing to pay and the price a Provider is charging. Are Providers overcharging for their Services? Some are. But there are some that are reasonably priced. So then the question is, What is a Reasonable Price? That's Subjective, meaning it's up to each person. My personal view is that $200 is a Fair Price for both Parties involved. In my view $200 isn't that Expensive for a Provider's Services and what I can afford. At this price you can reasonably expect a Decent Provider that will show you a Good Time. I know there are some Bad ones at this price range. Remember this isn't an exact Science. If $200 is too much to pay, then you'd be better off to find a Provider within your price range. Lowballing or asking for a Discount may work for a time. But the Girls will remember who the Cheapskates are and probably won't see you for a Future Session. Just my personal experience.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=NC Transplant;1855419]There are a couple of really good providers in the mid 100 an hour range too. There is something worth mentioning, for a girl to get the same income at a lower price she has to see more guys to make up the volume. Do you really want to be number 7 or 8 for the day? Some of the high price ones that I can't afford may only see a few guys a month, but some can afford to get the more low mileage ladies. Some aren't not getting their entire income from this and can be mid priced and provide great service too. Sometimes high prices don't equal better service but it is very rare to get good service at an extremely low price.[/QUOTE]Well Corvette was merely replying to my post on AMPs, in which case I will still stand on being cheap. They are high volume girls, if you think that giving them $200 for FS, on top of house fees will make them see less clients, then you keep believing that. They in the AMP end will take you for what they can get from you, and will still haggle to get what they can from me, and others who will not just say okay.

Now if you are speaking about independents, that is a totally different thing altogether. First that are based on, or should be quality service, this means a higher price in anything. I have no problem with them charging whatever the market, and their level of service is worth. These are the ones that I think you and Transplant are speaking about.

But to think that I or anyone else is ruining their availability at an AMP is purely fictitious. I will pay for quality when it is there, and will not when it is not. And from the moment your time begins will tell you which it is. Unless you let the little head do the talking. So many of the women I have met at AMPs have had the same attitude of a street girl, so street girl money is what they get.

[QUOTE=IH8HJ'sAz; 1856146]Well Corvette was merely replying to my post on AMPs, in which case I will still stand on being cheap. They are high volume girls, if you think that giving them $200 for FS, on top of house fees will make them see less clients, then you keep believing that. They in the AMP end will take you for what they can get from you, and will still haggle to get what they can from me, and others who will not just say okay.

Now if you are speaking about independents, that is a totally different thing altogether. First that are based on, or should be quality service, this means a higher price in anything. I have no problem with them charging whatever the market, and their level of service is worth. These are the ones that I think you and Transplant are speaking about.

But to think that I or anyone else is ruining their availability at an AMP is purely fictitious. I will pay for quality when it is there, and will not when it is not. And from the moment your time begins will tell you which it is. Unless you let the little head do the talking. So many of the women I have met at AMPs have had the same attitude of a street girl, so street girl money is what they get.[/QUOTE]The focus of my statement was towards Providers. I never go to those AMP's. Total waste of Money IMO. I'm not attracted to Asian Girls. I know I'm in the Minority on that. More often than not from what I've read, AMP's are disappointing. Too many don't Rules and very little what you can do Rules. My current Provider who is not Asian is Great. She treats me very well and is worth her Donation Price. Why not find yourself a Reliable Provider in your area? In my opinion you're just wasting Money on going to a AMP. Are Asian Girls better than finding yourself a nice non Asian local Provider? How about checking out some of your local Providers? I guess if you like the level of Treatment from an AMP and the prices you're paying, then all well and good. For me I like the Quality of Service over just Satisfying a need.

This is a topic that conitnually comes up and it seems to be treated as if it should be some great mystery what a girl should get paid. That's easy, she should get paid whatever she can get.

What I should expect to pay is a different matter and a baseline is easy to establish. Median Income in Charlotte in 2011 was $50, 177. That number includes doctors and fast food workers. I think we can agree that the skillset required is about equal in difficulty to obtain as a fast food workers. In other words, they don't have much to offer in terms of rare skills. That would suggest a lower pricing. Looks are important but let's be honest, the vast majority of providers are average to below average in looks (Sammie Jean anybody?). So nothing in terms of specialized skills and marginal attractiveness suggests a lower pricing point.

What is that point? Well $50, 177 divided by 50 weeks is $1003.54. $1003.54 divided by 5 days is $200.71. So if a girl is seeing 1 customer a day it's $200, how many are seeing 2 a day though? That would suggest $100. That's the average though and I would suggest most girls rank below average in earning potential, nobody goes to college to be a working girl. In any event, I contend an eros girl could conceivably be worth the $200, a typical AMP girl $100 less her cut of the door say $80.

If I want to go out and pick up a girl, I'm spending x# of hours to meet her, get to know her and bed her, then follow up time. There's a high initial investment of hours spent for each lay but that should lower over time, again, $200 for a higher end eros girl is justifiable but for the average girls it suggests that $100 level.

[QUOTE=Sully15; 1855395]Haven't seen any reviews for Afforci up in Concord but in case anyone was wondering. Strictly legit, fully draped, not even an accidental brush of the boys. Massage was awesome, but no hot towel wipe down. Good enough for a future return. Ad says they are moving next month, closer to Charlotte.

[url]http://charlotte.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relax-with-us-on-saturday-nice-private-environment-45-special/14224167[/url][/QUOTE]It had an earlier report at the end of July, #5289. He didn't have any luck with extras either.

Sozan, a Chinese Zen master, was asked by a student: "What is the most valuable thing in the world?" The master replied: "The head of a dead cat." "Why is the head of a dead cat the most valuable thing in the world?" inquired the student. Sozan replied: "Because no one can name its price."

Went to the bow a couple wknds ago. Drew "k" who I thought was hot, slender, tallish and wearing a sexy dress, no panties. Great TS. Ok rub, seemed disappointed I only wanted HE, wanted $60 right away. Then started whining bc apparently I was taking too long to finish. Total mood killer and wouldn't let me roam at all. Only after I left did I realize she never gave me change for the door fee. Gave her $60 should have gotten $10 back. Not going back there unless things get a lot better.

This is sort of off topic, and sort of a rant, but your $10 in missed change made me want to reply. One of my biggest pet peeves is being made to feel like a cheapskate (which, OK, maybe I am, but still) when I ask for my change. OR FOR WHEN I BRING EXACT CHANGE. Can't tell you how many surly looks I've gotten when a spa is running a special of. 5 instead of. 6 or. 7 instead of. 8, and I come in with exact change instead of 20s. It's like they are insulted I'm paying the exact amount they are advertising. One reason why I don't visit AMPs any more, although Jing is quite close to my house. .....

[QUOTE=Ptime5068;1857482]Went to the bow a couple wknds ago. Drew "k" who I thought was hot, slender, tallish and wearing a sexy dress, no panties. Great TS. Ok rub, seemed disappointed I only wanted HE, wanted $60 right away. Then started whining bc apparently I was taking too long to finish. Total mood killer and wouldn't let me roam at all. Only after I left did I realize she never gave me change for the door fee. Gave her $60 should have gotten $10 back. Not going back there unless things get a lot better.[/QUOTE]

Dreamed of being at Jing recently and was dissapointed with the vibe. May be the last time I dream there being that I can give 100 roses to legit therapists who actually speak english and has degrees in this stuff.

Third time I've dreamed there but this is my first post. Walked in and the girl, who I beleive was Jenny never even smiled. She began the rub with the sheet on and I told her that she can remove it. Not one bit of teasing was involved despite me grazing a few places on her as she walked by. The rub was solid and she did get a few knots out. On the flip, a little touchng before a happy ending. Very little roaming allowed and wanted more $ for me to have a view. Helped me get dressed as I looked at the clock and saw that I DID NOT get the full hour. .6 for rub, .4 tip.

$ is too much for me to leave unsatissfied.

Dreamed I visited Jing and left very disappointing. Walked in to who I believe was Jenny and didn't smile the entire time. Very weird vibe coming from her as I had to tell her she can remove the sheet during the rub. No teasing at all despite a halfway decent massage. On the flip, light touching before a HE. A little roaming allowed but no view unless I had more tip. Did not get the full hour. .6 rub, .4 tip.

$ is too much to leave dissapointed. I spend about the same for my legit masseuse and would much rather have a legit massage with someone who speaks English and cares about what I'm paying than to have a bad attitude and want more money.

No, I hear you. Normally I do have the exact amount. I think not having it threw me off, and its been awhile since I was last at an AMP, and the fact I thought she was hot and I was excited clouded my head.

[QUOTE=Bruce2345;1857946]This is sort of off topic, and sort of a rant, but your $10 in missed change made me want to reply. One of my biggest pet peeves is being made to feel like a cheapskate (which, OK, maybe I am, but still) when I ask for my change. OR FOR WHEN I BRING EXACT CHANGE. Can't tell you how many surly looks I've gotten when a spa is running a special of. 5 instead of. 6 or. 7 instead of. 8, and I come in with exact change instead of 20s. It's like they are insulted I'm paying the exact amount they are advertising. One reason why I don't visit AMPs any more, although Jing is quite close to my house. .[/QUOTE]

1. Never pay more than $40 for a HE (esp. If the door fee is $60/30 and $80 / hr) unless she is a regular and you feel generous.

2. Never pay more than $80 for FS unless its GFE.

3. If they try to negotiate during the massage, get up and leave. You will always be ripped off and unsatisfied.

4. If you can't do 3, jerk off before going to the AMP so you can think with the correct head.

5. Always have a known good backup AMP you can fall back on so you don't let desperation set in and start negotiating with the wrong head again (see 3 and 4 for more info).

6. If they don't let you see a line up they are most likely no good.

7. Learn to use the search function on this list BEFORE asking.

8. There is no piece of ass worth more than $80 U. S (circa 2013).

9. The customer is king (yes even here).

10. Make friends with the Mamma-san.

11. If it's a girl's first day then definitely GO For It. They are most likely still un-jaded and just learning the ropes and unsure. 9 times out of 10 you will get more bang for your buck from these. A safe risk.

12. There will always be one AMP to save you from another.

13. YMMV

[QUOTE=Sam Weller; 1859400]1. Never pay more than $40 for a HE (esp. If the door fee is $60/30 and $80 / hr) unless she is a regular and you feel generous.

2. Never pay more than $80 for FS unless its GFE.

3. If they try to negotiate during the massage, get up and leave. You will always be ripped off and unsatisfied.

4. If you can't do 3, jerk off before going to the AMP so you can think with the correct head.

5. Always have a known good backup AMP you can fall back on so you don't let desperation set in and start negotiating with the wrong head again (see 3 and 4 for more info).

6. If they don't let you see a line up they are most likely no good.

7. Learn to use the search function on this list BEFORE asking.

8. There is no piece of ass worth more than $80 U. S (circa 2013).

9. The customer is king (yes even here).

10. Make friends with the Mamma-san.

11. If it's a girl's first day then definitely GO For It. They are most likely still un-jaded and just learning the ropes and unsure. 9 times out of 10 you will get more bang for your buck from these. A safe risk.

12. There will always be one AMP to save you from another.

13. YMMV[/QUOTE]I couldn't say it better. Thanks Sam.

[QUOTE=Sam Weller; 1859400]1. Never pay more than $40 for a HE (esp. If the door fee is $60/30 and $80 / hr) unless she is a regular and you feel generous.

2. Never pay more than $80 for FS unless its GFE.

3. If they try to negotiate during the massage, get up and leave. You will always be ripped off and unsatisfied.

4. If you can't do 3, jerk off before going to the AMP so you can think with the correct head.

5. Always have a known good backup AMP you can fall back on so you don't let desperation set in and start negotiating with the wrong head again (see 3 and 4 for more info).

6. If they don't let you see a line up they are most likely no good.

7. Learn to use the search function on this list BEFORE asking.

8. There is no piece of ass worth more than $80 U. S (circa 2013).

9. The customer is king (yes even here).

10. Make friends with the Mamma-san.

11. If it's a girl's first day then definitely GO For It. They are most likely still un-jaded and just learning the ropes and unsure. 9 times out of 10 you will get more bang for your buck from these. A safe risk.

12. There will always be one AMP to save you from another.

13. YMMV[/QUOTE]Very well said!

I'm trying a new tactic, I let her began the massage if it feels like its going to be decent I continue normal operations. If it feels like its going to be krap, I advance to final stage. Normally involving getting her comfortable. The advantage to this is that it throws her off balance just enough for me to get the upper hand. Sun-tzu isn't just for war! LOL

Are you guys really getting full service for 80? I negotiate but never get less than 100 and that is usually for BJ then hold out hoping they would rather spread the legs.

[QUOTE=Rbw88;1860806]Are you guys really getting full service for 80? I negotiate but never get less than 100 and that is usually for BJ then hold out hoping they would rather spread the legs.[/QUOTE]Sam said he would not pay more than $80 for FS unless it is GFE. There is plenty of room for misinterpretation as to what GFE means, but perhaps we are talking BBBJ, DATY and some kissing? I'd be happy paying $80 for some non-GFE FS, but I've never found that at any AMP in Charlotte.

Anyway, my usual for FS in Charlotte ranges from $100-160 (only paid the $160 a couple times, and it was worth that amount and more). $120 or $140 is probably the most common for me.

[QUOTE=Love Kgirls; 1860899]Sam said he would not pay more than $80 for FS unless it is GFE. There is plenty of room for misinterpretation as to what GFE means, but perhaps we are talking BBBJ, DATY and some kissing? I'd be happy paying $80 for some non-GFE FS, but I've never found that at any AMP in Charlotte.

Anyway, my usual for FS in Charlotte ranges from $100-160 (only paid the $160 a couple times, and it was worth that amount and more). $120 or $140 is probably the most common for me.[/QUOTE]Got FS $70 before but was not satisfied with her hole, too lose so had her BBBJCIM and I sure did. I would agree .80 is max here in Charlotte. However did pay more in Raleigh for private home GFE. That chick did everything and she was a nympho. Smoking hot young and so clean I ate her ass out. She was Japanese not Chinese definitely makes a difference. Haven't seen anything like that around here yet.

A few weeks ago I finally took the plunge and tried my first ever MP. I stopped in at Ella's. There I met Maddie who did an excellent job of introducing me to a very relaxing and happy hour. Maddie is 37, works out and has the body to prove it. She has a very nice and tasteful collection of tattoos and left me feeling very good about the experience. It was 80 for the hour's massage and I tipped her another 40. I will definitely try to catch her again when I am through that way, but am also looking to try something new. I would welcome anyone's thoughts about American MPs v AMPs in terms of service, experiences and value.

I do highly recommend Maddie and would be happy to share details. Again, I am a beginner so take that for what it is worth.

So, there have a few posts on this subject, and I am now quite curious what others are paying. Frankly, I am surprised that guys are posting about FS for $70 or $80 at an AMP. $100 is the lowest I have ever paid for FS at an AMP in Charlotte. If there are $80 girls lurking around at some AMP and if they are not 60 years old or completely repulsive, I want to know about it!

Please, lend a brother a hand and PM me with the specific details (AMP name, girl's name, price, activities).

I'm with you. I've never gotten FS for under 120 at an AMP here.

[QUOTE=Love Kgirls; 1861744]So, there have a few posts on this subject, and I am now quite curious what others are paying. Frankly, I am surprised that guys are posting about FS for $70 or $80 at an AMP. $100 is the lowest I have ever paid for FS at an AMP in Charlotte. If there are $80 girls lurking around at some AMP and if they are not 60 years old or completely repulsive, I want to know about it!

Please, lend a brother a hand and PM me with the specific details (AMP name, girl's name, price, activities).[/QUOTE]

Will be making trip to Asheville / Charlotte area next week and am planning on visiting a couple of MPs, probably Asian. Am looking for decent traditional massage, followed by sensual massage and FS. Is that too much to expect and if not what would be the best choice? There appear to be so many more choices than available in my area. Appreciate any info possible.

BSM

When I first began in Charlotte I paid $100 for FS a couple of times.

Each time I paid for it I was disappointed and felt ripped off.

Since then I have never paid $100 for FS again.

The "trick" is pretty simple-

Get a regular girl and work on your "relationship".

For new AMPs ALWAYS stand your ground.

I have no reservations about walking out with no tip during the negotiation part if she doesn't quote a number I like.

It is like any other business dealing. You don't care for the price then leave. You have something they want and they have something you want. And really what you have is far more lasting than what they have (and they know it).

You will be surprised how much they hate it when you walk out. 90% of them will do anything to make you stay.

Ultimately this is still a business (and one that is not going well for them).

In the past 3 years I have only paid 70-80 for FS and I'd say I get it at that price 90% of the time. And once you set a precedent with that girl, it sticks each time you see her. This is at Midori, Papaya, Perfect 10, etc.

Of course the more you guys pay $100 (and more!) the harder it is for me to haggle but hey, I still do ok.

Ultimately I have never paid $100 for FS and have it be better than surfing some Asian porn on the interwebs and pleasing my self- I always keep that in mind when some little # tries to fleece me for a $100.

That said I would still pay $100 for Monica at the old Bow (but she never gave FS).

[QUOTE=Sam Weller; 1862203]When I first began in Charlotte I paid $100 for FS a couple of times.

Each time I paid for it I was disappointed and felt ripped off.

Since then I have never paid $100 for FS again.

The "trick" is pretty simple-

Get a regular girl and work on your "relationship".

For new AMPs ALWAYS stand your ground.

I have no reservations about walking out with no tip during the negotiation part if she doesn't quote a number I like.

It is like any other business dealing. You don't care for the price then leave. You have something they want and they have something you want. And really what you have is far more lasting than what they have (and they know it).

You will be surprised how much they hate it when you walk out. 90% of them will do anything to make you stay.

Ultimately this is still a business (and one that is not going well for them).

In the past 3 years I have only paid 70-80 for FS and I'd say I get it at that price 90% of the time. And once you set a precedent with that girl, it sticks each time you see her. This is at Midori, Papaya, Perfect 10, etc.

Of course the more you guys pay $100 (and more!) the harder it is for me to haggle but hey, I still do ok.

Ultimately I have never paid $100 for FS and have it be better than surfing some Asian porn on the interwebs and pleasing my self- I always keep that in mind when some little # tries to fleece me for a $100.

That said I would still pay $100 for Monica at the old Bow (but she never gave FS).[/QUOTE]I agree about haggling in general, but for some reason, with pussy, it's a kill-joy. Takes away from the fantasy of it all. If they want to start talking money after they've got me to get wood, I deflate. Now with Abby at galaxy, I would get FS all the time and just give her 0. 8 at the end and she always seemed happy. I have not seen her in a while because her attitude started to get shitty.

Jenny is on "bacation" but they were running a 60 / hr rate so I thought I'd check out the new girl. She said her name was Sophia. She gave a good massage and I thought she was doing a good bit of teasing, but I didn't leave happy. I made sure all through the visit that she had no reason to suspect me as being LE, but still no dice. If I understood her correctly Jenny will be back in September.

She looked familiar to me, but I can't place where I may have seen her. Has anyone else seen her and had better luck than me? I was her last visit of the day so there shouldn't have been any reason for her to be concerned about someone else walking in.

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[QUOTE=Sam Weller; 1862203]When I first began in Charlotte I paid $100 for FS a couple of times.

Each time I paid for it I was disappointed and felt ripped off.

Since then I have never paid $100 for FS again.

The "trick" is pretty simple-

Get a regular girl and work on your "relationship".

For new AMPs ALWAYS stand your ground.

I have no reservations about walking out with no tip during the negotiation part if she doesn't quote a number I like.

It is like any other business dealing. You don't care for the price then leave. You have something they want and they have something you want. And really what you have is far more lasting than what they have (and they know it).

You will be surprised how much they hate it when you walk out. 90% of them will do anything to make you stay.

Ultimately this is still a business (and one that is not going well for them).

In the past 3 years I have only paid 70-80 for FS and I'd say I get it at that price 90% of the time. And once you set a precedent with that girl, it sticks each time you see her. This is at Midori, Papaya, Perfect 10, etc.

Of course the more you guys pay $100 (and more!) the harder it is for me to haggle but hey, I still do ok.

Ultimately I have never paid $100 for FS and have it be better than surfing some Asian porn on the interwebs and pleasing my self- I always keep that in mind when some little # tries to fleece me for a $100.

That said I would still pay $100 for Monica at the old Bow (but she never gave FS).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response, Sam. I understand the part about developing a "relationship" with a girl, but that is harder to do when you are not a local. I have found that the best rates I get are with girls I have seen for several years. Because I don't live in Charlotte anymore, I usually come to Charlotte every 3 weeks or so. I also don't have a big window of time to visit several AMPs when I do visit. So, if I walk, then I am probably done until my next visit 3 weeks later.

I don't generally care all that much about $20 here or there, but I don't want to overpay. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck when it comes to AMPing! I feel silly if I am paying more than other guys for the very same thing. Still waiting for a PM with some specific info about a specific girl who does not look like a mamasan, who will offer FS for $70-80 and who will at least give the semblance of being satisfied with her compensation!

P. S. You know I miss Monica, too.

[QUOTE=Smoky R Wood;1862247]I agree about haggling in general, but for some reason, with pussy, it's a kill-joy. Takes away from the fantasy of it all. If they want to start talking money after they've got me to get wood, I deflate. Now with Abby at galaxy, I would get FS all the time and just give her 0. 8 at the end and she always seemed happy. I have not seen her in a while because her attitude started to get shitty.[/QUOTE]I've seen Abby many times, myself. I eventually felt like a session with her was just not worth the money, so I stopped seeing her.

Stopped by A-1, didn't have cash so I used my cc which added a fee of 3. House for the hour was 50, I drew an older woman. Thorough massage, she too her time, it felt great especially after a long week at work and hard gym day. On the flip she didn't offer anything so I asked for a menu. She was hesitant and kept asking what I wanted. I asked for FS, or anything. She said since I paid by cc I couldn't, seems like the owner wants to avoid suspicious charges and only allows house fee amounts to be charged. She gestured only a HE, but I let her know I was let down, and next time I'd bring cash. After I signed the receipt, she undressed and got on top. Nice full chest and big nipples to play with. She said "only this time, its almost like free" and straddled me. I though she was just rubbing me against her and she was very very wet, but before I knew it I was inside. Bare. I was too into the moment and had a few seconds of doubt and concern in the back of my head when I heard the juices making noise but the little head didn't let me do anything but keep going. It was too late when I realized so I just let it happen. Overall damage was 106 and now the aftermath of being worried.

2 reports missing Monica at the Bow I just want to be the 3rd. Only girl I would go by to see on a regular basis long term. Also only girl never got more than a standard handshake that I would repeat. The girls said they got rid of her because she would not do more. Still can't believe she is gone and they got rid of there golden ticket. I thought for sure with her following she would have surfaced somewhere else or as an independent. What a bundle of pleasure!

[QUOTE=Smoky R Wood;1862247]I agree about haggling in general, but for some reason, with pussy, it's a kill-joy. Takes away from the fantasy of it all. If they want to start talking money after they've got me to get wood, I deflate. Now with Abby at galaxy, I would get FS all the time and just give her 0. 8 at the end and she always seemed happy. I have not seen her in a while because her attitude started to get shitty.[/QUOTE]I liked Abby too. I would tip 40 and she was happy. It is all in rolling the dice.

[QUOTE=SneakySnake;1862794]Stopped by A-1, didn't have cash so I used my cc which added a fee of 3. House for the hour was 50, I drew an older woman. Thorough massage, she too her time, it felt great especially after a long week at work and hard gym day. On the flip she didn't offer anything so I asked for a menu. She was hesitant and kept asking what I wanted. I asked for FS, or anything. She said since I paid by cc I couldn't, seems like the owner wants to avoid suspicious charges and only allows house fee amounts to be charged. She gestured only a HE, but I let her know I was let down, and next time I'd bring cash. After I signed the receipt, she undressed and got on top. Nice full chest and big nipples to play with. She said "only this time, its almost like free" and straddled me. I though she was just rubbing me against her and she was very very wet, but before I knew it I was inside. Bare. I was too into the moment and had a few seconds of doubt and concern in the back of my head when I heard the juices making noise but the little head didn't let me do anything but keep going. It was too late when I realized so I just let it happen. Overall damage was 106 and now the aftermath of being worried.[/QUOTE]No cash. But you paid 106. The house fee was 45. That was a big tip and no that doesn't look suspicious. I am just saying.