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Well for once I have to agree with Sleazebum!! Don't kid yourselves into believing that more money will improve the girls. Hell, some of the real 20 something spinners that have been around don't stack up to the performance of the more experienced women. Like any profession, you choose standard of living not just pay. If the job sucks you will look for another no matter what you get paid. The reason for the lack of superior quality is the pressure here from LE. Perhaps you don't have to deal with it as much in other areas. As for price... For those of you who may indulge in other illicit activities, compare it to buying pot. There is a pretty set price among who you deal with. Sometimes it is great stuff. Sometimes it is not. No matter how much money you have at the time if better is not around it just isn't and you buy anyway.

Think about it, .6 house fee aside, 1.0 for in reality about 45 minutes of time. How many of us make $2.22 a minute? It's not a bad deal for them. On the job training. No student loans. No background checks to pass. Sure they paid and struggled to get out of the third world sh**hole they came from. They would have done that without the industry anyway.

Don't inflate prices with the thought that you will be better off for it. Don't do it out of feeling sorry either. If you do you are a sucker.

On the lighter side.. Thought this was good...

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[QUOTE=Big Daddy Don]Well for once I have to agree with Sleazebum!! Don't kid yourselves into believing that more money will improve the girls. Hell, some of the real 20 something spinners that have been around don't stack up to the performance of the more experienced women. Like any profession, you choose standard of living not just pay. If the job sucks you will look for another no matter what you get paid. The reason for the lack of superior quality is the pressure here from LE. Perhaps you don't have to deal with it as much in other areas. As for price... For those of you who may indulge in other illicit activities, compare it to buying pot. There is a pretty set price among who you deal with. Sometimes it is great stuff. Sometimes it is not. No matter how much money you have at the time if better is not around it just isn't and you buy anyway.

Think about it, .6 house fee aside, 1.0 for in reality about 45 minutes of time. How many of us make $2.22 a minute? It's not a bad deal for them. On the job training. No student loans. No background checks to pass. Sure they paid and struggled to get out of the third world sh**hole they came from. They would have done that without the industry anyway.

Don't inflate prices with the thought that you will be better off for it. Don't do it out of feeling sorry either. If you do you are a sucker.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better myself .

I'm from Cali and had the opportunity to walk the cold wet streets of DC tonight. Thanks for all the great info. I come here about once a year for business and usually managed to hit D'town, so I was bummed when I read it was gone.

So using the info, I decided to try to have a surpa night and headed there about 8. All went well, mama let me in and was all smiles. I paid the house fee and waited, not knowing if I was going to get one or a line-up. 2 minutes later, in walks Umi, an attractive enough K-girl of indeterminate age. I'll guess 30s based more on body?

Anyway, it was off to the TS which is something I love about DC AMPs. After walking out in the cold, the feeling with the hot water and her warm hands was great. Not to mention her attention to all the key areas.

Back to the room and an OK massagi to start (maybe a 6), but the breasts on my back (she had really nice Bs) was great. Her nips were poking out of her too small top during the TS which was a real turn on. Then she started some small kisses that eventually culminated in my favorite of all, that special "asian" attention. For me, better than a CBJ, which followed after about 3 minutes of bliss.

After a few minutes of that, I had her pivot and we 69'ed for a bit before I laid her down for my undivided attention. I'm quite sure she faked the O so we get to the deed which we did, first mish them finish in CG.

After that, the obligatory warm cloth and more massage on my back which was sweet. She was super sweet afterwards, I think in part because I did like her and found her attractive and tried to be a nice guy.

All in all, it was a well above average experience. It wasn't really rushed, and she did have rules: no DFK, no fingers, and no licking breasts which sucked. She said she was sore. She did allow me to gently touch and cup them.

I'd give it straight sevens, but the asian made it all worth it for me. Maybe I'm grading hard, i don't know. I don't have enough DC experiences to compare, just Honolulu and Thailand.

So thanks for the help. If anyone needs help in escort rich San Diego or Bangkok where I'm lucky enough to go about 10 times a year, let me know.

Pablo

After my visit to the 4th floor at 1333, I walked around to get a bite to eat and see some other places.

I found the places on M, though there were a lot of people around.

I then went down to the 1413 place, walking right it past it the first time. The bar right above it had a bouncer and valets, so I was thinking that it might be a little uncomfortable going down those stairs. I know I should be past that by now, I know who cares. But I liked the fact that I could sort of slip into supra more unnoticed.

Anyway, it was cold wet night and a lousy one for walking around, especially for this kid from Cali. But for the US, I still like the AMP scene here.

Thanks again guys, your posts were helpful to get me what I was looking for.

[QUOTE=Big Daddy Don] .... As for price... For those of you who may indulge in other illicit activities, compare it to buying pot. There is a pretty set price among who you deal with. Sometimes it is great stuff. Sometimes it is not. No matter how much money you have at the time if better is not around it just isn't and you buy anyway....
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I enjoyed your analogy, Big Daddy, but for me its flawed. Great weed costs more than dirt weed. I can buy an ounce of brick for five Jacksons, but that same ounce of the killer is gonna run 3 or 4 times that. If you cant get your hands on the good stuff, sure, you might buy the regs, but it'll cost you less. In other words, with weed, you get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=Loop Vet]I enjoyed your analogy, Big Daddy, but for me its flawed. Great weed costs more than dirt weed. I can buy an ounce of brick for five Jacksons, but that same ounce of the killer is gonna run 3 or 4 times that. If you cant get your hands on the good stuff, sure, you might buy the regs, but it'll cost you less. In other words, with weed, you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]


I wouldn't compare the current talent to dirt weed. Just commercial grade weed. Ha Ha

I just don't want to price myself out of the hobby. It's not like an amp is going to have different prices for different girls.

In reality, if guys want to spend a bundle they can get real GFEs from escorts. I have seen many a sweet collage girl escort but cannot afford them. If you want absolute primo and are willing to pay top dollar that is the route to go.

Hoo boy, looks like I opened up a can of worms. First, let's clarify my posts. If you think I'm backpedaling, just quote any of my posts and point it out.

1. I never suggested that we should be paying $250.
2. I never suggested we should be paying a flat rate that's higher than $160.

Here is what I said. I said that if there's a great girl at an AMP, we should:

1. Spread information about her instead of being selfish.
2. Pay her an extra $20 as incentive to stay.

Do you see what I'm getting at? The girls that make money stay in DC. The girls that don't make money leave. How much money each girl needs to make to stay is different and is directly related to how good looking she is and how well she takes care of the customer.

An ugly hag who doesn't bother to brush her teeth and rushes everything obviously does not have as high a requirement as a plastic girl filled with botox and silicone who goes the extra mile for each person she sees.

So my two suggestions work two-fold.

1. Spread information about her instead of being selfish.

This leads to more customers seeing the hotter girls while the hag leads to losing those customers.

2. Pay her an extra $20 as incentive to stay.

The hotter girl makes more money than the hag, which not only helps the hotter girl fill her "money requirement", but also creates jealousy from the hag as she is only human.

So what happens? The hag leaves and is more likely to be replaced by a hotter girl than another hag.

And to address some other comments.

Big Daddy Don, Korea's not a third-world country, at least not the type of "third-world shithole" you have in mind. They may still be listed as third-world on some academic lists, but trust me, they are not on the level of Somalia or Columbia, nor are they even on the level of China or India. Furthermore, LE pressure in DC is STILL less than what it is in New York and Atlanta. So that's not the reason for lack of superior talent. IT'S THE MONEY.

And "they get paid enough" is not an excuse. Let's say, Big Daddy Don, that you made $100,000 a year. Despite what you may think, that's pretty good. That's well above average. What if we decided to just freeze your salary just because "$100,000 is good enough". I doubt you'd enjoy it. In fact, you'd probably find a job somewhere else.

Yup, that's exactly what's happening right now with AMP girls.

Phoenix, it's great that you don't think they are worth $250 or more. I agree, which is why I specifically stated that in my post. But you are wrong in that "NO MAN" will pay for it. And it's also wrong to personally attack the girls for it They have control over their own schedules and make more money than they can in an AMP because there are plenty of people who feel they are worth it. Not you. Not I. But other people. So why should they just go back to working under a mamasan at an AMP taking $160?

Also AMPs did not die out in California. At least not in the sense you are thinking of. As I've already mentioned, the girls have moved onto Apartment AMPs where they make $100 for half an hour or $140 for a full hour. Meanwhile, here in DC, we complain (not saying it's right or it's wrong) if we are sent out after 30 minutes even though we paid $160. So let's think about this. Girls who don't mind travelling can either make:

$100 per 30 minutes

or

$100 per 60 minutes

Which would they choose? Fortunately for us, most girls are either scared to travel by air or it's too much of a hassle since they already live on the East Coast. They exist, but if it was to the full extent, we'd see a mass exodus to the West Coast.

Think about this. The girls we see in DC that come from LA are one of the following:

1. Girls who are scared to work in Cali due to husband/boyfriend/family.
2. Girls who can't make the cut in Cali working at the typical $160HH/$200H AAMP, and have to work at DC-AMP rates anyway.

I AGREE with the rest of your post, though. $160 is the minimum. If the service is average or below average. YES, JUST TIP $100 AND THAT'S IT. If the girl is GOOD or GREAT, just tip that extra $20!


Drew Park, the Chinese condo is still a horrible alternative in my opinion. In my opinion, the girls are ugly and old. To top it off, they are $160 (or is it $180?). For $160, you can go to DC. Okay, a little far? Fair enough. You can just drive two minutes down the road and go to Asian Privacy or Angel Exotics, which have a whole lot better looking women who give better service.

[QUOTE=Loop Vet]you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I can't believe I wrote all that shit when I could've just picked one line from someone else's post.

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

If you can't be bothered to tip a hotter/nicer girl extra because you're scared of "inflation" or whatever, DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE QUALITY.

[QUOTE=Phoenix, it's great that you don't think they are worth $250 or more. I agree, which is why I specifically stated that in my post. But why personally attack the girls' character just because YOU don't like it? They have control over their own schedules and make more money than they can in an AMP because there are plenty of people who feel they are worth it. Not you. Not I. But other people. So why should they just go back to working under a mamasan at an AMP taking $160? .[/QUOTE]It's common sense, how many of you will pay any $250 or more for not even 1 hour of service? . I think that there are other guys that think the same thing as I, so it's not just ME or YOU for that matter. With that said, I want to give you a little quiz :

If you were an AMP girl and suddenly, you decide you want to go solo offering your services for such a pathetic price such as $200 OR MORE "because you weren't making enough money at D. C or any other place in the area " for example, what are the odds of you getting the same customer base as you got in an AMP in any given place like D. C, and what number of men do you think will be willing to pay you that type of cash? .

Think about it, we are facing a reccession here in the U. S, a lot of people are struggling to make ends meet, they have families to maintain for example. How many guys will even have the type of money these girls are asking for? .

So I am not the ONLY one that has the same thoughts regarding this issue, alot of people feel the same way like Sleazebum for example.

Why should they go back to D. C you ask? :

I'm not saying they SHOULD go back, but think about it.

What's better? , Quantity or Quality?

Here in D. C they get almost ten or more a day, I'm saying this because I have spoken many times to the girls at the AMPs and they confirmed this to me accurately.

Here's a formula

House fee $60 (For the house of course) $100 tip for the girl $100 x 10 = $1000 a day! For only 45 MINUTES per customer!

So tell me, what are the odds of them getting this amount of money solo when they are charging everyone $200 or more? . I would really like to see them try and make as much money as they do at an AMP.

USMC "Semper Fi"

Pheonixzero13

Also one last point for the morning.

If you don't have that extra $20, fine. If you worry too much about inflation, fine. If you're just a cheapskate, fine.

But just realize that those who are selfish with intelligence, and yes this is a problem on this forum, are directly doing a disservice to themselves, other board members, and the girls themselves.

There are generally two reasons that a girl stays an extended period of time:

1. She is making money.
2. She isn't making THAT much money but she actually lives in the area despite lying about being from New York.

Case in point, Supra (before scattering due to LE visit).

Ruby and Susie were around a hell of a long time, and that's directly correlated to the number of reports they were getting.

Meanwhile, apparently they are nothing compared to a girl named Tara, but she did not stay that long. Is it any coincidence that she had only a couple of reports about her?

Don't believe me?

Ask any of the girls who carry around a laptop how important reviews and reports are to making money. They will tell you that the difference between a girl who has good reviews and a girl who doesn't is substantial.

This is why I can't say anything bad about Sleazebum, because no matter how much of a cheapskate he claims to be, he ALWAYS provides information to the rest of us. In fact, I bet he's single-handedly responsible for 50% of the Chinese condo's business (along with 25% being from Low Jack, and 25% being from Drew Park).

When Sun was open back in January 2007 , and before I went to Parris Island , I had my last session with Bebe . We spoke for a LONG TIME and she told me everything about the AMPs , about her ,the girls , and everything else . She along with the other girls were in that business for a long time .... and guess what .... they were all making the same amount of money ( $100 per customer ) . So I think about it and I think that D.C can't be all bad for the girls , they are actually making a lot of money per day . I am starting to think that the problems are actually the LE's , eversince that AMP got busted recently , the other AMPs are are in a state of catatonic shock - they are afraid , which leads me to believe that the girls are actually leaving ( Not all of them ) because the want to keep their freedom and keep making more money of course!. I think things will actually look better down the road , its just a matter of patience.

Bebe was the best. Her teddy bear hairknot still has the delicious scent of her hair ( I still have it with me ) . A great woman indeed.

So!

Now where can I get that BBBJTCCIMNQNS I need for $5.98??

JJ

[QUOTE=Rejected Monke]Also one last point for the morning.

If you don't have that extra $20, fine. If you worry too much about inflation, fine. If you're just a cheapskate, fine.

But just realize that those who are selfish with intelligence, and yes this is a problem on this forum, are directly doing a disservice to themselves, other board members, and the girls themselves.

There are generally two reasons that a girl stays an extended period of time:

1. She is making money.
2. She isn't making THAT much money but she actually lives in the area despite lying about being from New York.

Case in point, Supra (before scattering due to LE visit).

Ruby and Susie were around a hell of a long time, and that's directly correlated to the number of reports they were getting.

Meanwhile, apparently they are nothing compared to a girl named Tara, but she did not stay that long. Is it any coincidence that she had only a couple of reports about her?

Don't believe me?

Ask any of the girls who carry around a laptop how important reviews and reports are to making money. They will tell you that the difference between a girl who has good reviews and a girl who doesn't is substantial.

This is why I can't say anything bad about Sleazebum, because no matter how much of a cheapskate he claims to be, he ALWAYS provides information to the rest of us. In fact, I bet he's single-handedly responsible for 50% of the Chinese condo's business (along with 25% being from Low Jack, and 25% being from Drew Park).[/QUOTE]

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