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[QUOTE=BoatGuy1;6644419]For those who might have visited Holland recently.
[URL]https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/local/sexual-assault-prostitution-reports-ottawa-county-massager-parlor/69-0754928b-671c-42f3-81c6-00036717e02f[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up BG.
[QUOTE=Gene2;6646104]Thanks for the heads up BG.[/QUOTE]What is weird if you read the complaint is that several "customers" were handled inappropriately and reported it. What a bunch of bu* if you want them to touch you they won't without an up charge, I say set up.
[QUOTE=Comrad;6646207]What is weird if you read the complaint is that several "customers" were handled inappropriately and reported it. What a bunch of bu* if you want them to touch you they won't without an up charge, I say set up.[/QUOTE]I could see something related to that, though. A girl doing what we'd consider pretty touchy teasing down around there, and a guy not expecting it going "whoah nice" -- and telling some friends that and his GF / wife overhearing (or even to his GF / wife as a chuckle), and him having to say it wasn't his fault, blah blah blah. And then she calls to complain. I think virtually all the complaints are guys' significant others (or family members or from friends' significant others who heard about it and don't want their own guy going). If every guy who ever went to a place was 100% single and any friends he'd tell were also single, there wouldn't be any complaints existing.
[QUOTE=BoatGuy1;6644419]For those who might have visited Holland recently.
[URL]https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/local/sexual-assault-prostitution-reports-ottawa-county-massager-parlor/69-0754928b-671c-42f3-81c6-00036717e02f[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning. Wow, if I had a nickel for every time some Asian masseuse has grabbed the boys completely out of the blue when I just wanted a simple massage--I'd have no nickels. Who in the world goes to a place like Rong's and expects just a massage? I went once and was disappointed, but not because of inappropriate touching. It was more like lackluster touching. That's the real crime. Not what they do, but that they aren't very good at it.
Had a question for you.
[QUOTE=IMustacheYou;6651568]Had a question for you.[/QUOTE]Cleared some room. With recent reviews, upsurge in DMs.
I remember a few years ago we had EV. (Escort Vault).
A nice place for the ladies to talk about the clients plus meet and greets and also parties. Anything out here like that anymore?
I had a different conversation the other day with a provider in Grand Rapids who is strictly a cfs provider. I don't typically see providers for FS that often typically a BBBJ. She told me through text cfs and when I got there she went on to inform me that she had a client purposely sabotage a condom so he could bb her. She ended up kicking this person out. The reason I'm mentioning this is because I feel that these providers deserve a little more respect than trying to raw dog them when they say no.
I can't imagine a provider would ever call the police being they are just a wrong as we are but let's face it. I am sure there are allot of guys on here that wouldn't be getting off if it wasn't for these ladies. So please play nice.
[QUOTE=Dean27;6662404]I had a different conversation the other day with a provider in Grand Rapids who is strictly a cfs provider. I don't typically see providers for FS that often typically a BBBJ. She told me through text cfs and when I got there she went on to inform me that she had a client purposely sabotage a condom so he could bb her. She ended up kicking this person out. The reason I'm mentioning this is because I feel that these providers deserve a little more respect than trying to raw dog them when they say no.
I can't imagine a provider would ever call the police being they are just a wrong as we are but let's face it. I am sure there are allot of guys on here that wouldn't be getting off if it wasn't for these ladies. So please play nice.[/QUOTE]People who do "stealthing" should do jail time. That's malicious in a hundred different ways.
[QUOTE=AlaLuv;6662148]I remember a few years ago we had EV. (Escort Vault).
A nice place for the ladies to talk about the clients plus meet and greets and also parties. Anything out here like that anymore?[/QUOTE]Haha. Half the guys on the board had passwords to log into the ladies rooms on the boards back then.
[QUOTE=AlaLuv;6662148]I remember a few years ago we had EV. (Escort Vault).
A nice place for the ladies to talk about the clients plus meet and greets and also parties. Anything out here like that anymore?[/QUOTE]I truly feel there is a need for this. There is an app in the Netherlands for sex workers that you can use to send out alerts about possibly violent clients. I know the guys worry about being robbed or assaulted, but we do even more.
[QUOTE=BadKittyBaby;6662927]I truly feel there is a need for this. There is an app in the Netherlands for sex workers that you can use to send out alerts about possibly violent clients. I know the guys worry about being robbed or assaulted, but we do even more.[/QUOTE]I've seen them for different cities but not for here. Ladies definitely need a board to post and talk about clients that that are fakes and just out to rob or even something worse.
[QUOTE=BadKittyBaby;6662927]I truly feel there is a need for this. There is an app in the Netherlands for sex workers that you can use to send out alerts about possibly violent clients. I know the guys worry about being robbed or assaulted, but we do even more.[/QUOTE]That makes sense although not likely to be set up here as the purpose of this site is to help men find women. Maybe y'all could use DM to communicate with each other here. CJ Alaluv Milan Rose Hayley and others have posted here. Or you could text the girls from there ads. Y'all just can't rant on here about bad mongers. But you need safety too.
[QUOTE=AntBz;6664610]That makes sense although not likely to be set up here as the purpose of this site is to help men find women. Maybe y'all could use DM to communicate with each other here. CJ Alaluv Milan Rose Hayley and others have posted here. Or you could text the girls from there ads. Y'all just can't rant on here about bad mongers. But you need safety too.[/QUOTE]Oh lordy. I would Love a board that I didn't get censored on for being "largely argumentative", LOL. Most of ya would fair well. However there are a few I'd love to give a fair warning on, LOL. I've always has no problem reaching out to other providers for references as well as giving them when I've been asked to. I think it's awesome that you guys have this board to check real references and real stories and reviews. It's great for a safety aspect. I always tell my clients never to see anybody without reviews. I wish we As providers had the same Sort of resource For safety reasons And for storytelling. Because oh my god the stories I could tell. LOL. Someday I'll get rich from my memoir, haha!
On that note, though, I don't want to have anything to do with getting it going or being in charge of it, LOL.
Expensive brothels raided.
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high-end-brothels-serviced-elected-officials-tech-and-pharma-execs-military-officials-and-more-feds.html[/URL]
Looking for a private place to meet with my girl friend. Anyone have any suggestions or strategies? The problem is, hotels require a credit card, which is no good for me for obvious reasons. Anyone have a creat way around this? Or anyone know any hotels that do not require a credit card?
[QUOTE=Cambear24;6673397]Looking for a private place to meet with my girl friend. Anyone have any suggestions or strategies? The problem is, hotels require a credit card, which is no good for me for obvious reasons. Anyone have a creat way around this? Or anyone know any hotels that do not require a credit card?[/QUOTE]Oasis hot tub $40 for an hour.
It works. But I would like another option.
[QUOTE=Cambear24;6673397]Looking for a private place to meet with my girl friend. Anyone have any suggestions or strategies? The problem is, hotels require a credit card, which is no good for me for obvious reasons. Anyone have a creat way around this? Or anyone know any hotels that do not require a credit card?[/QUOTE]The back seat of your AMC Rambler?
[QUOTE=Cambear24;6673397]Looking for a private place to meet with my girl friend. Anyone have any suggestions or strategies? The problem is, hotels require a credit card, which is no good for me for obvious reasons. Anyone have a creat way around this? Or anyone know any hotels that do not require a credit card?[/QUOTE]Cambear, Google DayUse Hotels and you'll find a couple greater GR hotels that offer time blocks at discounted rates. No card needed to book on line & pay at hotel. My understanding is you can pay with cash but they may want to run your credit / debit card to protect themselves against theft or internal security issues. Looks like Holiday Inn South is an option. Decent joint that I used to "date" Sexy Sunny before things went off the rails. If you use this option, report back to us inquiring minds. Mr Boybear.
For a couple of years I have been using a service called "iMyFone AnyTo. " This is a paid service that you control from a laptop. It enables you to place yourself anywhere on a map and thus spoof the phone's gps. One you jump to your desired (fake) location, you will appear on FindMyFriends in the spoofed location instead of the real location. This has worked really well for a while. However, it glitched last week. My s. O. Called me to ask why I was at a particular hotel. She had looked at my shared location and it showed my REAL rather than my fake location. She looked a moment later and then it placed me in my spoofed location (my office). Yikes! Fortunately the glitch was momentary, and I was able to blame it on the phone and on the fact that I regularly drive near that hotel. Nevertheless, this one failure has undermined my confidence in this strategy.
[QUOTE=PrivateParts;6611340]I have similar thing just with Find My Friends with family iphones. We all share our location which is very convenient, but I will religiously stop sharing my location when I go to play, then reenable it afterwards. I also put my phone on airplane mode during the visit so if someone calls it goes straight to voicemail, or if they text from iMessage it doesn't say "delivered". Thus it looks like my phone is dead / no signal. Since all my visits in the hobby or an affair are scheduled I set an alarm to remind me to turn it off / on for the visit.
Sometimes for the heck of it I'll turn off sharing my location when I'm going to meet my family someplace and I KNOW they will monitor my location for progress. I've done that so they notice that sometimes my location is "flakey" when I'm not cheating so they don't get as suspicious if the see I go dark on a date. I just tell them my phone went into low battery mode which stops using GPS in the background. They aren't techie enough to question it. You could do the same thing occasionally while you are at your job site where you are seen by others so if work is tracking you can say "but I'm right here". Set the precedent that your reported location isn't reliable.
Side note: I do the same thing with the insurance car apps that monitors how you drive for discounts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EDPills;6673731]The back seat of your AMC Rambler?[/QUOTE]My father's first new car. 1962 as I recall.
I'm sure there must be a good reason why someone would want anyone, let alone a S.O., to be able to track their phone location. I just can't think of one. I spend my time restricting as much access as possible to anything online about me.
[QUOTE=Ballyhoo2;6679739]For a couple of years I have been using a service called "iMyFone AnyTo. " This is a paid service that you control from a laptop. It enables you to place yourself anywhere on a map and thus spoof the phone's gps. One you jump to your desired (fake) location, you will appear on FindMyFriends in the spoofed location instead of the real location. This has worked really well for a while. However, it glitched last week. My s. O. Called me to ask why I was at a particular hotel. She had looked at my shared location and it showed my REAL rather than my fake location. She looked a moment later and then it placed me in my spoofed location (my office). Yikes! Fortunately the glitch was momentary, and I was able to blame it on the phone and on the fact that I regularly drive near that hotel. Nevertheless, this one failure has undermined my confidence in this strategy.[/QUOTE]
My goodness, we continue to spend an inordinate amount of time and resources trying to stamp out something that has survived for millennia.
[B]Ex-owners of sex work site Backpage convicted of prostitution scheme[/B]
Three former owners of the website Backpage, a site mainly known as a place where sex workers advertise their services, have been convicted for federal crimes including promoting prostitution and money laundering, the US Department of Justice announced on Friday.
The recently convicted trio, Michael Lacey, 75, Scott Spear, 72, and John "Jed" Brunst, 71, came to own Backpage in 2010. Since then, the government says, they encouraged sex work ads by creating a system for "johns", or customers, to leave reviews about the sex workers they had engaged with. Website workers and an automated system filtered out words that made it obvious that sex was being offered in exchange for money.
Story - [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/17/backpage-sex-work-prostitution-money-laundering[/URL].
Anyone know of a decent hotel that will take cash only.
Looking for something a little more safe and clean then lets say the dive on 44th and 131.
I've talked about my visits to German FKK's here in the past. I'm possibly taking another trip in January and wanted to see if anyone else is interested. Unfortunately it seems the girls are charging more these days (inflation is everywhere) but there's nothing like being in a venue with 80-100 women walking around naked and you can choose who you want to spend time with. There's nothing here in the US like it.
I'm looking at mid January. Flying into Frankfurt and hitting up Sharks FKK in Darmstadt for 3-4 days. To me it's worth the cost and time. Flights are cheaper this time of year. I don't monger stateside anymore so I save my money for trips like this. Hit me up if you have questions.
[QUOTE=BluBalls1;6684393]Anyone know of a decent hotel that will take cash only.
Looking for something a little more safe and clean then lets say the dive on 44th and 131.[/QUOTE]I've had good luck using a quality hotel at 76th / 131.
So after a few years of dipping my toes into this hobby, I want to say that its time for me to retire from it. Meeting these providers has definitely been a wild rollercoaster ride of mix emotions, there were those who were amazing and those who are horrible. I've been very fortunate that nothing bad has happen to me while going out to see any provider, and I got to give credit to the people on here who take the time to drop feedback on providers. Reporting their experiences, problems that may have occurred, and if there even worth the value that they are asking. So that other mongers can avoid the troubles and find someone to have a great time with.
So as of today, I am stepping away from the game and just going to sit back and watch yall. Thanks you everyone, peace out.
[QUOTE=KiteRose93;6691031]So after a few years of dipping my toes into this hobby, I want to say that its time for me to retire from it. Meeting these providers has definitely been a wild rollercoaster ride of mix emotions, there were those who were amazing and those who are horrible. I've been very fortunate that nothing bad has happen to me while going out to see any provider, and I got to give credit to the people on here who take the time to drop feedback on providers. Reporting their experiences, problems that may have occurred, and if there even worth the value that they are asking. So that other mongers can avoid the troubles and find someone to have a great time with.
So as of today, I am stepping away from the game and just going to sit back and watch yall. Thanks you everyone, peace out.[/QUOTE]I've read this same statement from many other mongers hoping to un hook from the hookers. Its easy to quit and easier to start again when reading all the fun we have. Good luck in your quest.
[QUOTE=AngelsMan;6688293]I've had good luck using a quality hotel at 76th / 131.[/QUOTE]Red Roof Inn on 28th by I-96.
[QUOTE=BluBalls1;6684393]Anyone know of a decent hotel that will take cash only.
Looking for something a little more safe and clean then lets say the dive on 44th and 131.[/QUOTE]Fairfield Inn and Suites by Marriott.
Metro Way West in Wyoming Mi.
It's the only Marriott hotel that takes cash for rooms.
[QUOTE=Shawtren;6438182]Yes! Silver Eagle was the one that would put together all these events. He would place them in GR, Lansing and Detroit to spread the love. Some times bars, sometime restaurants and sometimes private places. They were a blast. Blow jobs under the table, quickies in a coat roam, and if the provider didn't have a room, you had a possible overnighter as well.[/QUOTE]I remember one in Lansing at the good old Omars. Scorchy met me for a date before and then off to the party. The dancers were shocked to see so many hot open minded ladies. It was surreal.
After months of prep, I finally saw CJ earlier this month for the first time. Everything was as expected and more! Can't wait to go back! Also, does anyone know who she duos with?
[QUOTE=GuyIncognit0;6698228]After months of prep, I finally saw CJ earlier this month for the first time. Everything was as expected and more! Can't wait to go back! Also, does anyone know who she duos with?[/QUOTE]So glad you had as much fun as I did. Lauren and I would be happy to duo with you! Reach out soon!
[QUOTE=OrallVrForU;6697394]I remember one in Lansing at the good old Omars. Scorchy met me for a date before and then off to the party. The dancers were shocked to see so many hot open minded ladies. It was surreal.[/QUOTE]To this day, that event at Omars was the absolute best memory of the hobby for me. So many women with hands and lips everywhere! I ended up taking Candy Dancer back to my room with me for a while. She NEVER disappointed.
Wow, what this does for an active imagination. While I never made it to any of these, there was an Omars Dancer in the 90's named Paris. Goodness she was a fireball.
[QUOTE=Shawtren;6699292]To this day, that event at Omars was the absolute best memory of the hobby for me. So many women with hands and lips everywhere! I ended up taking Candy Dancer back to my room with me for a while. She NEVER disappointed.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.woodtv.com/news/target-8/man-accused-of-forcing-girlfriend-into-prostitution/[/URL]
Mentions stg site that they monitored.
Mixed thoughts on this one. Wonder if it will reduce demand and eventually price.
[QUOTE=BoatGuy1;6708998][URL]https://www.woodtv.com/news/target-8/man-accused-of-forcing-girlfriend-into-prostitution/[/URL]
Mentions stg site that they monitored.
Mixed thoughts on this one. Wonder if it will reduce demand and eventually price.[/QUOTE]As the war on cybercrime continues it'll force the assets back to walking. They will flood the streets and the piggly wigglies won't be able to keep up!
This is laughable.
Sent a PM respectably asking for guidance from a fellow 'senior member' and get this response.
[QUOTE=xxxxxxxxx][QUOTE=Script]Howdy.
So as a long time monger from Ohio, I'm lost with the references on where to roll for the stroll around Grand Rapids. .
Could you guide an out of towner on where to stroll when one seeks entertainment/companionship?
Much appreciated.
Script[/QUOTE]
Hello,
Why certainly sir. Would just need a nominal donation to either my cash app $xxxxxxxx or my Venmo @xxxxxxxx for services rendered. Ill even toss in a few videos.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Script;6709637]This is laughable.
Sent a PM respectably asking for guidance from a fellow 'senior member' and get this response.[/QUOTE]Even with the blocked username, it's clear this is ILieToFuck. His previous ILieToGirls account was deleted for similar shenanigans.
[QUOTE=ChadAdler;6709842]Even with the blocked username, it's clear this is ILieToFuck. His previous ILieToGirls account was deleted for similar shenanigans.[/QUOTE]Shocking that such a request would come from such a stand up dude.