General Reports

$300 for Angel "the European Dream" was worth every pfenig; but most of the time, the last few years, even $200\hour for many of these gals is just barely (& often not even) worth it when all is done: for exactly the reasons "E'1" (particularly) & "M'M'69" & "Oh'469" all cited!

Sincerely, A K.

[QUOTE=ElusiveOne;2225102]I dunno how it goes for other people, but I'm willing to pay more for people I get along with or have a really great time with. I got snowed twice taking it for the team here when I was new. And while it helped build my rep for sure, it cost me way more than it should have. $400 trying to get something to write about at ABE, which they knew I was coming so they made sure the girl didn't offer me shit. The other time was when everyone was clamoring about getting FS from Allie. I got the 3 way with her and Sammie, and it was nice but nothing stellar, and because we got along I let them talk me into paying $850. It was stupid but I was trying to build my rep around here.

These days? I won't pay over $$ unless it's a BR girl, since half of that is the house fee alone. Escort wise? $. 5- max. There are a few exceptions to the rule, but I have to have seen them previously and really clicked well with them or forget it. The reason I stop around $$? Most of these girls are fly by night, druggies, or completely lethargic. If they're attractive and take care of themselves, then perhaps I'll go higher. If you think you're worth $$. 5+ per hour, take care of your self and for the love of fuck stop smoking disgusting fucking cigarettes. You want to be paid like its a business, act professional. Stop taking hours to reply to texts, stop scheduling people on top of each other so you have to rush sessions, and make sure the environment you're in is clean and safe.[/QUOTE]

My apology to SausageMeet for leaving his most excellent post off my acknowledgements! _ Sincerely, A K.

[QUOTE=SausageMeet;2225223]Every girl would like to think she is worth $500. Most simply aren't. A half-way-decent girl can ask $200+/hr and will get it. Most girls aren't worth one hundred and fifty of my hard-earned shekels. For me, it is a whole bunch of things. In addition to the obvious attractions of youth/attractiveness/beauty there are a few other factors:

The ad: Honest advertising (no fake pix) and the relevant details (name/age/location/rates/vital stats) make for a wonderful advert. When I see one I will let you know. And please lay off the weird characters? They make my eyes bleed.

Text/phone etiquette: if she texts like a skank, she probably is. Good phone presentation is important. A cheerful, sexy voice is rare and adds value. Answering the phone sounding stoned or with a dude/kids/TV noise in the background subtracts.

Location: If you're at a skanky place I will not see you. If the pix are obviously fake or old I will leave. If the place stinks of cigarettes I will not see you again.

First impressions: Greet me like a long-lost lover and you'll see me again. Makeup, nails and hair are make a huge difference. So does appropriate attire. Lingerie is fantastic. Fresh-out-of-the-shower-wearing-just-a-towel is great. Nightwear is good. Underwear is okay. Grungy street clothes is. Well. Not.

Environment: Candlelight, nice music (also known as "turn off the damn TV! Turn off or mute your phone. Remember that you are selling an entertainment experience. And for God's sake buy a box of Kleenex..!

Service: Every "No", loses you a point. Every "Yes" gains you a point. Every "Whatever you want, baby" saves an acre of the Brazilian rainforest from the evil ninja loggers. Any questions?

Goodbye: The two most important moments of any assignation are "Hello" and "Goodbye". He is the center of your universe until he walks away (also known as: "can't you stay off the damn phone for two more fucking minutes?")

The good news: it doesn't take much to win at this game.

The bad news: Most girls can't be bothered.

(Special thanks to whomever came up with the idea of replacing the ellipsids with periods and then capitalizing the next letter. Classy.)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SausageMeet;2225223]Every girl would like to think she is worth $500. Most simply aren't. A half-way-decent girl can ask $200+/hr and will get it. Most girls aren't worth one hundred and fifty of my hard-earned shekels. For me, it is a whole bunch of things. In addition to the obvious attractions of youth/attractiveness/beauty there are a few other factors:

The ad: Honest advertising (no fake pix) and the relevant details (name/age/location/rates/vital stats) make for a wonderful advert. When I see one I will let you know. And please lay off the weird characters? They make my eyes bleed.

Text/phone etiquette: if she texts like a skank, she probably is. Good phone presentation is important. A cheerful, sexy voice is rare and adds value. Answering the phone sounding stoned or with a dude/kids/TV noise in the background subtracts.

Location: If you're at a skanky place I will not see you. If the pix are obviously fake or old I will leave. If the place stinks of cigarettes I will not see you again.

First impressions: Greet me like a long-lost lover and you'll see me again. Makeup, nails and hair are make a huge difference. So does appropriate attire. Lingerie is fantastic. Fresh-out-of-the-shower-wearing-just-a-towel is great. Nightwear is good. Underwear is okay. Grungy street clothes is. Well. Not.

Environment: Candlelight, nice music (also known as "turn off the damn TV! Turn off or mute your phone. Remember that you are selling an entertainment experience. And for God's sake buy a box of Kleenex..!

Service: Every "No", loses you a point. Every "Yes" gains you a point. Every "Whatever you want, baby" saves an acre of the Brazilian rainforest from the evil ninja loggers. Any questions?

Goodbye: The two most important moments of any assignation are "Hello" and "Goodbye". He is the center of your universe until he walks away (also known as: "can't you stay off the damn phone for two more fucking minutes?")

The good news: it doesn't take much to win at this game.

The bad news: Most girls can't be bothered.

(Special thanks to whomever came up with the idea of replacing the ellipsids with periods and then capitalizing the next letter. Classy.)[/QUOTE]You have provided a Ho handbook, only problem is that only the good ones will be sober enough to read it and abide!

[QUOTE=Ohboy469;2225795]You have provided a Ho handbook, only problem is that only the good ones will be sober enough to read it and abide![/QUOTE]True, but when you are wanting to see a "10" aren't you willing to spend to see her? I swear if these chicks could lay off the drugs, answer their phones, and have top noth customer service. They would bank more than most with a "good" degree.

[QUOTE=Jman3848;2226337]True, but when you are wanting to see a "10" aren't you willing to spend to see her?[/QUOTE]That was my very first point. And it is why so many girls use fake pix in the first place. But looks alone aren't everything. In fact, I have found that as a general rule, the better looking a girl is, the worse the service will be.

Naturally there are exceptions -- Kelli is still my ATF -- but in general, show me a "10" and I will show you a crappy BR for FS money followed by "Oh no, I don't do *that*.

My theory is that that FakesBook likes and social media have conspired to push their self-image and expectations into the stratosphere. As a result, eights and nines think they are tens, sixes and sevens think they are nines, and ugly fat chicks think they are sevens.

The hardest thing to convince these delusional creatures is that they are worth what someone is willing to pay, and not a penny more.

[QUOTE=SausageMeet;2227389]That was my very first point. And it is why so many girls use fake pix in the first place. But looks alone aren't everything. In fact, I have found that as a general rule, the better looking a girl is, the worse the service will be.

Naturally there are exceptions -- Kelli is still my ATF -- but in general, show me a "10" and I will show you a crappy BR for FS money followed by "Oh no, I don't do *that*.

My theory is that that FakesBook likes and social media have conspired to push their self-image and expectations into the stratosphere. As a result, eights and nines think they are tens, sixes and sevens think they are nines, and ugly fat chicks think they are sevens.

The hardest thing to convince these delusional creatures is that they are worth what someone is willing to pay, and not a penny more.[/QUOTE]I've found that there is just a complete lack of top notch service regardless whether it be effort or just menu (seriously what's with the CBJ's). That's why I basically see only Kelli. Yes its 300 but worth way more when combine service with her being a 15. In the past I'd spend $150 on maybe a girl that was an 7- 8 but end up wishing I just spent the extra $150.

[QUOTE=Crashdog;2227401]I've found that there is just a complete lack of top notch service regardless whether it be effort or just menu (seriously what's with the CBJ's). That's why I basically see only Kelli. Yes its 300 but worth way more when combine service with her being a 15. In the past I'd spend $150 on maybe a girl that was an 7- 8 but end up wishing I just spent the extra $150.[/QUOTE]Funny that I said "Naturally there are exceptions", and made a specific mention of Kelli.

[QUOTE=SausageMeet;2227516]Funny that I said "Naturally there are exceptions", and made a specific mention of Kelli.[/QUOTE]Needs to hit up Kelli and get laid, high sperm level apparently effecting ability to read. To his point however WTFIU with CBJ, man I hate those.

[QUOTE=SausageMeet;2227516]Funny that I said "Naturally there are exceptions", and made a specific mention of Kelli.[/QUOTE]I was agreeing with you while adding my own twist.

[QUOTE=ElusiveOne;2227697]I don't disagree that Kelli is amazing, because she's goregeous and talented, but knowing I saw her and Lindsey together last May for $350 makes their current asking rates a bit ridiculous. Not saying it isn't worth it, cause it's totally worth it, but it's harder to justify as an impulse purchase now.[/QUOTE]These realized that they were heads above the rest. 500 is the best price price you'd get on that now.

I just spent a few hours with Kelli, doesn't get better than that. She said a few other girls have been calling her wanting to work with her so maybe we'll get lucky and get a new girl-on-girl combo.

[QUOTE=Ohboy469;2178173]This one:

[URL]http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/ipWiIyrAwbQ/hqdefault.jpg[/URL]

I would also like to tap Christie Dutton.[/QUOTE]Nope. It was totally Kristen Walls I was thinking of. I thought I Googled all the names on the list, but I guess I missed her's. God, she's hot.

I've worked in Shelbyville for almost 20 years and except for some scary streetwalkers I haven't been able to find any hobbying here. Does anyone here know of something I may have missed in this town?

[QUOTE=Crashdog;2227885]These realized that they were heads above the rest. 500 is the best price price you'd get on that now.

I just spent a few hours with Kelli, doesn't get better than that. She said a few other girls have been calling her wanting to work with her so maybe we'll get lucky and get a new girl-on-girl combo.[/QUOTE]It wasnt but 3 or 4 years ago that there were multiple damned good looking girls with awesome full service and they (in my opinion) were undercharging for FS and msog. Can't find any like that now.

[QUOTE=BigAsaBat;2228403]It wasnt but 3 or 4 years ago that there were multiple damned good looking girls with awesome full service and they (in my opinion) were undercharging for FS and msog. Can't find any like that now.[/QUOTE]It seems like the good ones are mostly gone. When I first got in the game several years ago, I could find multiple ladies on the same scale as Lindsey ans Kelli. Top notch providers, great looks, clean, non clock watchers, seemed to enjoy what they did (or at least put on a good act) , at a decent rate. Louisville has lost a lot of talent and lower talent is becoming the norm. After visiting someone this past Sunday I have decided I will just save a little bit longer to see a higher end lady.

[QUOTE=Orion2011;2228330]I've worked in Shelbyville for almost 20 years and except for some scary streetwalkers I haven't been able to find any hobbying here. Does anyone here know of something I may have missed in this town?[/QUOTE]There has been one posting for a while for Shelbyville.

Saw the famous Jenni. Lived up to her reputation. Got the job done with much enthusiasm. While her style is not my regular thing, I still give her kudos. She had a friend waiting outside that sometimes joins in on the fun. Wish I would have tried that. Maybe another time.

Does anybody remember Raquel? She would, come here from time to time from Nashville. The first time I saw her was about 7-8 years ago. She may have retired because I think she was working her way through school. Very sweet girl.

[QUOTE=Crashdog;2227885]These realized that they were heads above the rest. 500 is the best price price you'd get on that now.

I just spent a few hours with Kelli, doesn't get better than that. She said a few other girls have been calling her wanting to work with her so maybe we'll get lucky and get a new girl-on-girl combo.[/QUOTE]Even a fairly negative guy like me thinks and knows there is some quality tail out there besides Kelli and Lindsey in this area. I noticed some just take a few repeats before they really warm up to you. I would also say don't be afraid to travel outside of Louisville every once in a while. Also grow some balls and take some risks on a newbie or two if things are getting boring or stale.

[QUOTE=MillitaryMan69;2229048]Even a fairly negative guy like me thinks and knows there is some quality tail out there besides Kelli and Lindsey in this area. I noticed some just take a few repeats before they really warm up to you. I would also say don't be afraid to travel outside of Louisville every once in a while. Also grow some balls and take some risks on a newbie or two if things are getting boring or stale.[/QUOTE]Very smart. Very smart indeed.

Xoxox Jessica Pixie.

[QUOTE=MillitaryMan69;2229048]Even a fairly negative guy like me thinks and knows there is some quality tail out there besides Kelli and Lindsey in this area. I noticed some just take a few repeats before they really warm up to you. I would also say don't be afraid to travel outside of Louisville every once in a while. Also grow some balls and take some risks on a newbie or two if things are getting boring or stale.[/QUOTE]MM69, I don't know how anyone could think you are a negative guy. From your reports you are always optimistic about the next "mountain" you are planning to climb and appear to report accurately on the adventures. IMHO this board could broaden its horizons and include more of the areas opportunities for general consideration. Too often there are the same 2 or 3 being discussed over and over. Thanks for your input on several PM in the past.

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;2228461]Does anybody remember Raquel? She would, come here from time to time from Nashville. The first time I saw her was about 7-8 years ago. She may have retired because I think she was working her way through school. Very sweet girl.[/QUOTE]Never had any alone time with her, but did "bump" into her a few times at meet 'and greets. Very sweet and sensual young lady, but she has long moved on to the white picket fence side of town.

I checked out his other site when he advertised in another forum. From my standpoint, it wasn't worth it. Nothing you can't get here with fewer hoops.

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;2228461]Does anybody remember Raquel? She would, come here from time to time from Nashville. The first time I saw her was about 7-8 years ago. She may have retired because I think she was working her way through school. Very sweet girl.[/QUOTE]Oh yes I do remember her. What a sweetheart.

[QUOTE=MillitaryMan69;2229048]Even a fairly negative guy like me thinks and knows there is some quality tail out there besides Kelli and Lindsey in this area. I noticed some just take a few repeats before they really warm up to you. I would also say don't be afraid to travel outside of Louisville every once in a while. Also grow some balls and take some risks on a newbie or two if things are getting boring or stale.[/QUOTE]Is it getting stale. Got 2 nice weekends out of the next 3 planned.

[QUOTE=Crashdog;2239626]Is it getting stale. Got 2 nice weekends out of the next 3 planned.[/QUOTE]To add to MM's comment sometimes the a provider who reigns for a while in town starts to think too highly of herself and gets the view it is completely acceptable to cut customer's sessions in half. That is why I miss Tori, even when he phone was constantly ringing due to everybody wanting to see her, I never heard a single complaint about her. That and I also miss her cause she was gorgeous.

[QUOTE=MillitaryMan69;2224648]I am looking for other mongers opinions on rates. At what amount do you think a lady's rate is too high? Would you pay 6 or 7 for the right lady? More? If so, then why? What other factors do you use in this calculation?[/QUOTE]I used to hobby a decent amount from 2004-07. There was no BP. No NR. CL was around but used more in larger cities. In this city you could barely find more than one or two ads for our interests. The only recourse was *********, TER and [URL]E.com[/URL]. This site was around and I was registered but only lurked-and-learned. Never posted. Back then the going rates locally for GFE were $3. 0 - maybe some at $2. 5, but the appearance quality at that rate was noticeably lower (at least by my standards). By 2007 some agencies and independents even raised to $3. 5. I tried that once or twice and found the extra amount wasn't worth it. There was even a very well-respected GFE provider here locally who charged something like $800/ hr. She apparently was WAY beyond the rest of the competition because she got what she demanded from her well-heeled clients (don't recall her name). I used to patronize an out-of-town agency called Taylor's Elite Escorts. They were out of Ft. Lauderdale / Miama and their stable had many model-quality women who would visit here about once every month or two for $3. 0. Sadly they are no longer in business. I also used F's who are still in operation.

I stopped hobbying due to financial considerations and am only just now picking it back up again since spring. Personally (after my hiatus) I'm pleased as punch to see rates down to $2. 0-$2. 5 (or better)! It's a welcome market change that I really didn't expect. I'm guessing it's due to competition from an increase in ads on a variety of venues (versus 7-10 years ago). I'd be interested in hearing from others who were active back then as to why the drop in rates.

Would I spring for more than the going rate now? Maybe. It would have to be for someone pretty incredible before pulling the trigger. Compared to back then I love the increase in selection and options!

Monger on.

If I recall there were sometimes more than just couple ads on CraigsList (& BackPages was in existence but not much used in Louisville) but it didn't matter; because there was an entire section of "[U]Adult Services[/U]" ad's in the "[U]Classified Ad's[/U]" section of every issue of the [B]free "[U]Louisville Entertainment Observer[/U]"[/B] weekly newspaper; I know I had lots of good "body rub's" + several good "dates" from the ad's in the "[B][U]L E O[/U][/B] during those years! I'm guessing that the publishers of that newspaper, which is still published if I'm not mistaken, got scared of the threat from the Attorney General to go after any publication that published ad's for suspected prostitution & quit publishing those ads + deleted that entire section of their Classified Ad's! _ sincerely: A K.

[QUOTE=Kyowa;2241401]I'm guessing that the publishers of that newspaper, which is still published if I'm not mistaken, got scared of the threat from the Attorney General to go after any publication that published ad's for suspected prostitution & quit publishing those ads + deleted that entire section of their Classified Ad's! _ sincerely: A K.[/QUOTE]And the founder of the LEO is now our Congressman, LOL.

Hey. It's all about equality and the ads were a form of free speech. Quick picking on John. LOL.

[QUOTE=Joelouky;2241660]And the founder of the LEO is now our Congressman, LOL.[/QUOTE]