[QUOTE=Scooter6;5326554]FYI. That is a link to your inbox and not a link to her profile.[/QUOTE]Thank You! I corrected it on a new post. Sorry for the screw up.
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[QUOTE=Scooter6;5326554]FYI. That is a link to your inbox and not a link to her profile.[/QUOTE]Thank You! I corrected it on a new post. Sorry for the screw up.
I tried to reply to you SB-related message, but your inbox is full.
[QUOTE=ZoomLens2013;5326967]I tried to reply to you SB-related message, but your inbox is full.[/QUOTE]Ditto Don.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5ebafaf1-7c9b-4f3b-9b8d-900a64e07d22[/URL]
Profile says she's a 4 foot 7 retired adult actress. Anyone know who she is or might have been? I just want to look her up and see her in action.
[QUOTE=RedChaser1;5328974][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5ebafaf1-7c9b-4f3b-9b8d-900a64e07d22[/URL]
Profile says she's a 4 foot 7 retired adult actress. Anyone know who she is or might have been? I just want to look her up and see her in action.[/QUOTE]Skylar Valentine.
Zoom and Scooter. My bad guys. Inbox is all clear now.
[QUOTE=Scooter6;5327399]Ditto Don.[/QUOTE]
Anybody get far with her, was supposed to meet her but she said she has a bf and looking for nonsexual relationship.
[QUOTE=RedChaser1;5328987]Skylar Valentine.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PipiLong;5329416]Anybody get far with her, was supposed to meet her but she said she has a bf and looking for nonsexual relationship.[/QUOTE]Naw, a lot of attitude months ago for suggesting anything and last time I checked her Instagram her BF had died but it seems she removed those pics.
Looks like she has a face tattoo now, not really my thing.
[URL]https://twitter.com/skyvalentinexxx[/URL]
Didn't report this one yet but will in a few days so others could be aware. She reached out said wanted 500 to meet started asking intimate details about want I wanted said she sent verification pic but never received than got pissed because she said she sent a ton of nudes to me never got anything than started asking for my email address and that ended it for me. I had a couple try to extort me before and this one is the exact same way so be carful but my senses may be wrong. Anyone else have any info on her?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d40ba5ba-54ea-47d4-bceb-6c82ae80d95a[/URL]
[QUOTE=BudGreen;5329625]Didn't report this one yet but will in a few days so others could be aware. She reached out said wanted 500 to meet started asking intimate details about want I wanted said she sent verification pic but never received than got pissed because she said she sent a ton of nudes to me never got anything than started asking for my email address and that ended it for me. I had a couple try to extort me before and this one is the exact same way so be carful but my senses may be wrong. Anyone else have any info on her?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d40ba5ba-54ea-47d4-bceb-6c82ae80d95a[/URL][/QUOTE]Several posts about her if you look back a couple months.
I never had any issues like you described though. But for a while she had on her profile if you were offering anything less than 5 bills then you had no chance etc.
She flaked on me before and she sent me some hot pics before etc that I almost pulled the trigger but her attitude sucks so I moved on.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3bd738b7-e741-4b27-8e83-1e9a5019e568[/URL] Don't waste your time. Just looking for a free meal and money with no intention of doing anything.
[QUOTE=RedChaser1;5328987]Skylar Valentine.[/QUOTE]A girl should be 2 things: classy and fabulous.
Not an escort and not interested in random hook ups by any means.
Funny stuff right there.
[QUOTE=BudGreen;5329625]Didn't report this one yet but will in a few days so others could be aware. She reached out said wanted 500 to meet started asking intimate details about want I wanted said she sent verification pic but never received than got pissed because she said she sent a ton of nudes to me never got anything than started asking for my email address and that ended it for me. I had a couple try to extort me before and this one is the exact same way so be carful but my senses may be wrong. Anyone else have any info on her?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d40ba5ba-54ea-47d4-bceb-6c82ae80d95a[/URL][/QUOTE]I was chatting with her around the holidays. She started at 500 and I was able to talk her down to 350 but then she added she needs me to Uber her both ways as well. At that point I decided it wasn't worth the hassle and moved on to other options.
[QUOTE=DiscreetFun306;5331016]I was chatting with her around the holidays. She started at 500 and I was able to talk her down to 350 but then she added she needs me to Uber her both ways as well. At that point I decided it wasn't worth the hassle and moved on to other options.[/QUOTE]When I initially had comms with her. May have been a year + ago, she was fine with 150 if I recall, but she did need to be Uber'd (which was no big deal to me since she lives about 4-5 miles from me).
She had to cancel for some reason (to her credit she did give me plenty of notice so that was a plus) - then she kind of vanished for a while. Then I saw her pop back up on SA.
When I re-engaged she acted as if we never had such an agreement but she did recall our interactions via text etc. I think she then asked for 350-ish. When I told her that was a little 'beyond market rate' - she said something along lines of 'oh so you're cheap and broke, probably why we didn't meet before' LOL.
She did share her IG with me at the time and pics look legit and she does have a smokin little hot body like I like. But her attitude leaves much to be desired.
I don't believe I recall anyone reviewing her on here though. Maybe they have and I don't remember. But there are better options out there that don't involve such an attitude and over-valuation of themselves.
[QUOTE=BudGreen;5329625]Didn't report this one yet but will in a few days so others could be aware. She reached out said wanted 500 to meet started asking intimate details about want I wanted said she sent verification pic but never received than got pissed because she said she sent a ton of nudes to me never got anything than started asking for my email address and that ended it for me. I had a couple try to extort me before and this one is the exact same way so be carful but my senses may be wrong. Anyone else have any info on her?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d40ba5ba-54ea-47d4-bceb-6c82ae80d95a[/URL][/QUOTE]Anyone got a username or profile pic? "Profile not Available" on my end. Wjhich I've probably blocked her.
[QUOTE=HoosierDaddy69;5332439]Anyone got a username or profile pic? "Profile not Available" on my end. Wjhich I've probably blocked her.[/QUOTE]RosexRuthxoxo.
[QUOTE=MyDarkSide;5332567]RosexRuthxoxo.[/QUOTE]I saw her quite a few months ago. She does look exactly like her pics and she has a nice tight body. I don't recall the donation but she was up for DFK, BBBJ and CFS. She has some serious head game and that's how I finished CIM. She was pleasant in our discussions and took care of her own Uber each way.
[QUOTE=MyDarkSide;5332567]RosexRuthxoxo.[/QUOTE]Nothing in text history so we never moved offline before blocking.
[QUOTE=HoosierDaddy69;5333073]Nothing in text history so we never moved offline before blocking.[/QUOTE]Hoosier. Pretty certain we discussed her via PM's a while back.
This is who we're referring to.
She does change her pics fairly often and always looks the same, so that may be a plus haha.
[QUOTE=Scooter6;5333147]Hoosier. Pretty certain we discussed her via PM's a while back.
This is who we're referring to.
She does change her pics fairly often and always looks the same, so that may be a plus haha.[/QUOTE]At Wacks -- as I recall don't think she had a rep as being much fun in VIP but perhaps she gave good french lessons?
We had a lunch meet setup and then she pulled the are you paying for my babysitter card. I made my usual offer of I would be happy to give you money for your babysitter when we meet. Amazingly I have never had anyone take me up on my offer.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4e70a1da-d0d0-43de-b148-2201ebf04703[/URL]
[QUOTE=Scooter6;5333147]Hoosier. Pretty certain we discussed her via PM's a while back.
This is who we're referring to.
She does change her pics fairly often and always looks the same, so that may be a plus haha.[/QUOTE]And that's why I blocked her LOL.
[QUOTE=DiscreetFun306;5335083]We had a lunch meet setup and then she pulled the are you paying for my babysitter card. I made my usual offer of I would be happy to give you money for your babysitter when we meet. Amazingly I have never had anyone take me up on my offer.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4e70a1da-d0d0-43de-b148-2201ebf04703[/URL][/QUOTE]Lists her age at 42 but using pics of a 20 something?
Any info on this one frustrating reads messages but doesn't respond much [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1d9b5ffe-a175-4399-b20b-539bb078cc14[/URL].
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/528f3e99-d9f4-4ee3-bc72-d8765463ec7c[/URL]
In from out of town and spent the evening with her. Drinks, dinner, fun time. Pics are older as is she but super easy to talk to, had a lot of fun, and would recommend. Doesn't drive and can't host but that was fine for me.
[QUOTE=BudGreen;5336990]Any info on this one frustrating reads messages but doesn't respond much [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1d9b5ffe-a175-4399-b20b-539bb078cc14[/URL].[/QUOTE]Offer her $500 to have coffee in public and just chat. Then when she responds, just iggy her back.
These fakers should try to learn more of the area before trying to run their scam. This one, that already looks TGTBT, answered my message pretty quickly, first red flag. Then I asked where 'she' lived and worked. "Brentwood". Geez.
Sorry, here's the link:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2aa5efa4-1a9a-49d1-a95c-fe848be1b797[/URL]
[QUOTE=Fishguy717;5342185]Sorry, here's the link:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2aa5efa4-1a9a-49d1-a95c-fe848be1b797[/URL][/QUOTE]Her Byline: "What's True and Right" sounds like we can suggest an edit to "What's False and Wrong".
This one wants travel and beauty costs upfront 150 she will drive 6 hours for 200 ppm but money upfront told her I would give her a grand plus 150 when she is hear said no thanks LOL.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fb9a828d-19e9-4d66-8c01-5f8e85c21ef9[/URL]
Sorry if this is a lot to ask but I am just now getting my feet wet in this area.
1. Do you guys normally do ppm or a weekly / monthly allowance? Which is best?
2. What is the going ppm amount and is this normally determined by the amount of time spent?
3. If gifts, dinner or public events are involved, is that considered part of the allowance or just a perk of the arrangement?
My current prospect is about 22 and About to start school. I met her organically and not on a site. She currently has a boyfriend but I picked a vibe and decided to take a shot. She wanted some thing all her Amazon wish list and offered to work something out. Drinks and alone time is what we agreed on. The gift ran me $120 and I am thinking another $100 for hotel plus the drinks. Told her we can discuss ongoing arrangements based on this meeting. Am I on the right track or did I make some mistakes?
That all sounds good but are physical things actually going to go down or do you just have a platonic buddy?
[QUOTE=SixWheels;5343150]Sorry if this is a lot to ask but I am just now getting my feet wet in this area.
1. Do you guys normally do ppm or a weekly / monthly allowance? Which is best?
2. What is the going ppm amount and is this normally determined by the amount of time spent?
3. If gifts, dinner or public events are involved, is that considered part of the allowance or just a perk of the arrangement?
My current prospect is about 22 and About to start school. I met her organically and not on a site. She currently has a boyfriend but I picked a vibe and decided to take a shot. She wanted some thing all her Amazon wish list and offered to work something out. Drinks and alone time is what we agreed on. The gift ran me $120 and I am thinking another $100 for hotel plus the drinks. Told her we can discuss ongoing arrangements based on this meeting. Am I on the right track or did I make some mistakes?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fishguy717;5342185]Sorry, here's the link:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2aa5efa4-1a9a-49d1-a95c-fe848be1b797[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying my suspicions. Professional quality pictures are usually a big red flag. Along with the phrase "I live kids" in the profile.
[QUOTE=SixWheels;5343150]Sorry if this is a lot to ask but I am just now getting my feet wet in this area.
1. Do you guys normally do ppm or a weekly / monthly allowance? Which is best?
2. What is the going ppm amount and is this normally determined by the amount of time spent?
3. If gifts, dinner or public events are involved, is that considered part of the allowance or just a perk of the arrangement?
My current prospect is about 22 and About to start school. I met her organically and not on a site. She currently has a boyfriend but I picked a vibe and decided to take a shot. She wanted some thing all her Amazon wish list and offered to work something out. Drinks and alone time is what we agreed on. The gift ran me $120 and I am thinking another $100 for hotel plus the drinks. Told her we can discuss ongoing arrangements based on this meeting. Am I on the right track or did I make some mistakes?[/QUOTE]And depends on what you as SD are willing to provide and what she as SB is willing to accept. I'm out of the SB game right now but when I was active:
1. I preferred ppm not allowance. I liked variety and that way there was no obligation on either side to meet regularly. Admittedly that takes many SB off the table because they may only want to see one SD and want a big allowance to justify being in this type of relationship.
2. PPM rates have been climbing. 2 years ago $200-300 was very appropriate for a evening of play. Now I read the current SB market expects $400-500.
3. Perk of the arrangement.
Did you see her already? Was she a good and eager lay or not? Is she willing and able to carry on a conversation that interests you or more focused on taking selfies and on her appearance? These factors will help determine if she's worth your time, effort, and investment.
I have an SB where we did PPM and the sex expectation per meet was obvious. Then I made the mistake of going to allowance just to see if I could cash in on extra-sex-meets since the allowance was not connected to a specific meeting.
Well I messed up. All of a sudden there was no expectation of sex each meet and she would get drunk and pass out or just not be in-the-mood. I was like REALLY?..... I can have that experience at home for free!
Anyway, I've since told her I don't mind enjoying each others company BUT I went back to PPM and made it clear No sex = No cash. She didn't like that. She still wants to meet but her text responses are cold and not as instantly.
- DonJon.
[QUOTE=SixWheels;5343150]Sorry if this is a lot to ask but I am just now getting my feet wet in this area.
1. Do you guys normally do ppm or a weekly / monthly allowance? Which is best?
2. What is the going ppm amount and is this normally determined by the amount of time spent?
3. If gifts, dinner or public events are involved, is that considered part of the allowance or just a perk of the arrangement?
My current prospect is about 22 and About to start school. I met her organically and not on a site. She currently has a boyfriend but I picked a vibe and decided to take a shot. She wanted some thing all her Amazon wish list and offered to work something out. Drinks and alone time is what we agreed on. The gift ran me $120 and I am thinking another $100 for hotel plus the drinks. Told her we can discuss ongoing arrangements based on this meeting. Am I on the right track or did I make some mistakes?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DonJon;5343426]I have an SB where we did PPM and the sex expectation per meet was obvious. Then I made the mistake of going to allowance just to see if I could cash in on extra-sex-meets since the allowance was not connected to a specific meeting.
Well I messed up. All of a sudden there was no expectation of sex each meet and she would get drunk and pass out or just not be in-the-mood. I was like REALLY?..... I can have that experience at home for free!
Anyway, I've since told her I don't mind enjoying each others company BUT I went back to PPM and made it clear No sex = No cash. She didn't like that. She still wants to meet but her text responses are cold and not as instantly.
- DonJon.[/QUOTE]So basically I need to make sure the offer and expectation are crystal clear. This is definitely something I need to get comfortable with. I don't want to come off offensive but I can see how I could it be setting myself up for failure by leaving things vague.
I guess the first meeting will be " I would to continue seeing you on a weekly basis which would include I am in the bedroom camera drinks and occasional outing and gifts. " How does that sound? Should I be more direct? Is far is the PPM, I am thinking it’s probably better to See where her head is it before I throwing out numbers. Unless she comes up with something ridiculous or out of my range.
So, I'm trying to be understanding here but I cannot help having feelings about knowing my "Main Long-Term" SB had multiple SD's. I'm not sure what to think about this. I mean a girl gotta do what she gotta do but.... from my perspective, I feel a little strange about knowing she has multiple of me.
For you Veteran SA users, do most of your SB's have mulitple SDs?
- DonJon.
[QUOTE=DonJon;5343863]So, I'm trying to be understanding here but I cannot help having feelings about knowing my "Main Long-Term" SB had multiple SD's. I'm not sure what to think about this. I mean a girl gotta do what she gotta do but.... from my perspective, I feel a little strange about knowing she has multiple of me.
For you Veteran SA users, do most of your SB's have mulitple SDs?
- DonJon.[/QUOTE]Over the past 4 or 5 years, I have had maybe 12 or so recurring SBs. I am not counting, the single meet girls, even though I found them on SA because they just aren't relevant to your question.
Of those 12, there was one that I believe was exclusive and that had more do with her lack of opportunity and need for discretion than anything else, meaning it was not out of any attachment to me, we just had a very compatible, nicely interlocking coincidence of needs / wants. She wanted a little mad money once in a while and that was enough for her. For the rest, some were candid that I wasn't the only one. Which is fine and I appreciate being fully informed. Others have prevaricated about the truth to varying degrees but ultimately all of them had at least some overlap between me and at least one other SD. To me, this is ideal. I can't afford the more traditional "kept" woman format and I don't know that I'd find it to be worth it even if I could. It also takes some of the pressure off if you have to miss a meet or something if you're not her only life support system, and this in turn makes it less likely that feelings will be hurt or some act of desperation will occur when it has to end, as it inevitably will. Obviously, I have continued to insist on a certain degree of discretion, level-headed behavior. I've never stuck with an SB who was obviously seeing multiple guys a day and conversely, I've wrangled out of the relatively few situations where "she" was getting "feels" as the kids call it. Is that's what's happening for you? If you're married and getting feels, I'd say get out. But outside of that, I'd say why do you care? Her seeing other SDs almost surely keeps your spend down and allows you to engage on your terms if she has any expectation you will return the favor.
[QUOTE=DonJon;5343863]So, I'm trying to be understanding here but I cannot help having feelings about knowing my "Main Long-Term" SB had multiple SD's. I'm not sure what to think about this. I mean a girl gotta do what she gotta do but.... from my perspective, I feel a little strange about knowing she has multiple of me.
For you Veteran SA users, do most of your SB's have mulitple SDs?
- DonJon.[/QUOTE]I've had my fair share of arrangements with some being a one and done or a absolute last resort kinda meet and a couple I still meet with regularly today. All were ppm except one. With the site being what it is I don't see how anyone would assume that they are exclusive even if its absolutely expressed by her and she deletes her profile I still wouldn't assume she's exclusive to me. That's just not the nature of the hobby. Not saying that an exclusive arrangement isn't possible or doesn't happen but the majority of arrangements the sd and sb have multiple arrangements at once. I can scroll thru two pages of sbs actively online every single day and some a few times a week at the very least. Coupled with all the info we share here I'm sure all of them have a waiting line out the door with unlimited money to make. The only time I assume we are exclusive is when she is hanging out with me but the moment she walks out the door she is not LOL. I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it.
[QUOTE=Sparkish;5343975]Over the past 4 or 5 years, I have had maybe 12 or so recurring SBs. I am not counting, the single meet girls, even though I found them on SA because they just aren't relevant to your question.
Of those 12, there was one that I believe was exclusive and that had more do with her lack of opportunity and need for discretion than anything else, meaning it was not out of any attachment to me, we just had a very compatible, nicely interlocking coincidence of needs / wants. She wanted a little mad money once in a while and that was enough for her. For the rest, some were candid that I wasn't the only one. Which is fine and I appreciate being fully informed. Others have prevaricated about the truth to varying degrees but ultimately all of them had at least some overlap between me and at least one other SD. To me, this is ideal. I can't afford the more traditional "kept" woman format and I don't know that I'd find it to be worth it even if I could. It also takes some of the pressure off if you have to miss a meet or something if you're not her only life support system, and this in turn makes it less likely that feelings will be hurt or some act of desperation will occur when it has to end, as it inevitably will. Obviously, I have continued to insist on a certain degree of discretion, level-headed behavior. I've never stuck with an SB who was obviously seeing multiple guys a day and conversely, I've wrangled out of the relatively few situations where "she" was getting "feels" as the kids call it. Is that's what's happening for you? If you're married and getting feels, I'd say get out. But outside of that, I'd say why do you care? Her seeing other SDs almost surely keeps your spend down and allows you to engage on your terms if she has any expectation you will return the favor.[/QUOTE]I agree about not having the funds to provide enough to my long term to demand exclusivity and even if I did I would probably rather spread the wealth. The rule with my long terms is that when we are apart we have our own lives, I think this works best for both of us. It is fine with me if she has other SDs. As long as when we are together she makes me feel like I am her only.