Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=LexLuther]"You don't seem to understand the AMP business model. As RM astutely points out, the AMP workers are not pizzas or toothpaste. In fact they are more like independent contractors. Sometimes they don't even get the whole tip but must share it with the "house."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rejected Monke]"When you pay the $100 tip, the $100 doesn't go to the mamasan.
Hahaa!! Heheehe!!! I'm a business guru!!!!"[/QUOTE]

Some sort of disconnect here on sharing of tip with the mamasan. The only agreement I can see is that you both profess to be business geniuses, but I have to give you both a no confidence vote on your business acumen.

OK Sashimi. Let's hear how you think it works. Then we can all decide how much credence to give to what you say.

LexLuther

[QUOTE=Sashimi]Some sort of disconnect here on sharing of tip with the mamasan. The only agreement I can see is that you both profess to be business geniuses, but I have to give you both a no confidence vote on your business acumen.[/QUOTE]

This is why you're just digging yourself a deeper hole.

No one professed to be a business genius except YOU.

When it's been confirmed that you were talking out of your ass, you continue to make stupid snide remarks and try to pick at semantics instead of defending your dumbass TEWFERONE post. $100 goes to girl. Sometimes girl has to give portion for kitchen mama, food, tip to mamasan, whatever.

Get it?

No, probably not, as demonstrated by your inability to read simple paragraphs in English. Maybe we should get an AMP girl to read over and explain our posts to you. Probably has a better grasp of the language than a stupid monger.

I was going to reserve my 200th post for an action report, but, I have to commend LexLuther (and Rejected Monke in a supporting role) for the clear and concise explanation of the business and how thing work.

As you both say, for whatever reason, these girls have chosen this path...and they do so at great personal risk. They don't get medical, dental, etc...it's all out of pocket. Transportation as well is all out of pocket (and they have to pay full price on things like air fare, etc.). If there are any "troubles" in the AMPs, often times their money and belongings are confiscated and never returned...even if no charges are filed.

Hopefully everyone here understands that these ladies are human beings, but, in my opinion, they are exceptional human beings. How many people do you know that would risk so much to pursue the American Dream?


My hat's off to all of you that treat the ladies with respect...

P.S. - Max, your inquiry that spurred this discussion was a good one, so you deserve some credit too...but next time, go to the ATM! LOL

Personally I think this was a extremely well put 200 action report! You couldn't be more right.
Thanks for your compassion and understanding of the very hard business.

Happy Hunting
AJ


[QUOTE=Jake Jj 1492]I was going to reserve my 200th post for an action report, but, I have to commend LexLuther (and Rejected Monke in a supporting role) for the clear and concise explanation of the business and how thing work.

As you both say, for whatever reason, these girls have chosen this path...and they do so at great personal risk. They don't get medical, dental, etc...it's all out of pocket. Transportation as well is all out of pocket (and they have to pay full price on things like air fare, etc.). If there are any "troubles" in the AMPs, often times their money and belongings are confiscated and never returned...even if no charges are filed.

Hopefully everyone here understands that these ladies are human beings, but, in my opinion, they are exceptional human beings. How many people do you know that would risk so much to pursue the American Dream?


My hat's off to all of you that treat the ladies with respect...

P.S. - Max, your inquiry that spurred this discussion was a good one, so you deserve some credit too...but next time, go to the ATM! LOL[/QUOTE]

Jake JJ 1492, Rejected Monke, LoveLOS, and all other human beings out there in the ether,

It's gratifying to know that there are decent guys like you who appreciate the service and sacrifice of the AMP working girls. I just went back and re-read Sashimi's report in which he "visualizes" what a business-minded mamasan might offer. I can imagine that it's hard to have clear vision when you have your head so far up your own arse. My conclusion is that there is no point in trying to explain how things work to a man like that.

It's unfortunate that there are people in this world who choose to ignore reality and instead invent their own. But then I realize that if you look at the world around you what you see is a small percentage of intelligent people with the proper outlook and attitude. Then you have the great masses of unwashed, unintelligent, analphabet, shit-eating cretins. There must be a reason for that.

I guess the one saving grace for the few of us with our heads screwed on right is that the laws of economics are at work in our hobby as well as everywhere else we look. Guys like Sashimi are eventually going to become victims of their own ignorance and lack of grace. If he keeps at this hobby long enough, eventually he'll piss off the wrong working girl, the wrong mamasan, the wrong SW's pimp.

I'd like to share a story with you all. I was in Hawaii for a few weeks in December. One evening I paid a visit to a typical AMP in Pearl City. Mamasan took the house fee and explained to me that she was sure I understood that I needed to properly take care of my provider. The gal I drew was just beautiful. After a perfunctory massage, she informed me that the charge for FS was $150.00. I had not been to Pearl City in a while, and while I was fairly certain the tariff in Honolulu was about $100.00 I was not sure it was not higher in P.C. I gave the girl all the U.S. cash I had which was about $120.00 including about $20.00 in singles. She returned the $20.00 to me so I would not be completely broke.

During what followed, she told me she was leaving for Korea on Christmas day. I realized that I had about $50.00 in Korean Won left in my wallet from my last trip to Korea in Sept. So after we were done, I gave her the Korean Won. The smile on her face was worth far more than what I had given her in total. She was a sweet, beautiful young woman and she appreciated that someone had been kind to her.

Now $50.00 in Won will not last long in Korea and I'm sure she understood that as much as I did. But I walked out of there feeling good about the world and myself. I wonder how Sashimi feels when he leaves an AMP.

LexLuther

Hi all,

I'm a first time poster as you will all will probably be able to tell. I have frequented 1413 many times and have been looking to expand my horizons recently. Last night I went to 1333 and had a lackluster experience that I wanted to share to see if it was the norm:

Went in, was asked if it was my first time there and I responded "yes." Girl came to greet me in my room (not all that great, 6 in terms of looks, but was older and could have been in better shape), and told me it was 60 for massage, shower, and suana. I agreed, thinking that "more" would come later. After all was said and done, all I got was a JO, even though I was basically asking for more.

Is this the norm for 1333? Does anything else ever happen there? Or was I not asking the right questions?

These ladies for the most part are very different in many ways than any American Lady you will ever meet. When your kind they key in on that, do you really think as little girls this is what they dreamed of growing up to be? Not not at all! This is just where their choices have taken them.

I don't know about anybody here but I've made a lot of choices I wasn't too happy with. Some harder to get out of then others. I have never done anything knowingly to hurt or disrespect any provider.

For me it`s just easier to go in the grocery store say hello how are you and be sociable to the teller, rather than walk up spit on the floor, coughing with my mouth open, snorting through my nose talking about how much is it.

Bottom line is you can give what you don't possess!

Some people just never been taught decent morals, or maybe choose not to utilize them.

The sad thing is he probably doesn't and maybe he and many other dirt bags here, will never understand the joy of giving. Even if it's something as small as bringing a smile to someone else's face

On the other hand people such as yourself will never be lonely and your legacy will live forever.

Something said to me very early on in life.

"The only thing you really have is your dignity".

So if your word is not worth anything then you aren't worth shit!

Another compassionate hobbyist
AJ


[QUOTE=LexLuther]Jake JJ 1492, Rejected Monke, LoveLOS, and all other human beings out there in the ether,

It's gratifying to know that there are decent guys like you who appreciate the service and sacrifice of the AMP working girls. I just went back and re-read Sashimi's report in which he "visualizes" what a business-minded mamasan might offer. I can imagine that it's hard to have clear vision when you have your head so far up your own arse. My conclusion is that there is no point in trying to explain how things work to a man like that.

It's unfortunate that there are people in this world who choose to ignore reality and instead invent their own. But then I realize that if you look at the world around you what you see is a small percentage of intelligent people with the proper outlook and attitude. Then you have the great masses of unwashed, unintelligent, analphabet, shit-eating cretins. There must be a reason for that.

I guess the one saving grace for the few of us with our heads screwed on right is that the laws of economics are at work in our hobby as well as everywhere else we look. Guys like Sashimi are eventually going to become victims of their own ignorance and lack of grace. If he keeps at this hobby long enough, eventually he'll piss off the wrong working girl, the wrong mamasan, the wrong SW's pimp.

I'd like to share a story with you all. I was in Hawaii for a few weeks in December. One evening I paid a visit to a typical AMP in Pearl City. Mamasan took the house fee and explained to me that she was sure I understood that I needed to properly take care of my provider. The gal I drew was just beautiful. After a perfunctory massage, she informed me that the charge for FS was $150.00. I had not been to Pearl City in a while, and while I was fairly certain the tariff in Honolulu was about $100.00 I was not sure it was not higher in P.C. I gave the girl all the U.S. cash I had which was about $120.00 including about $20.00 in singles. She returned the $20.00 to me so I would not be completely broke.

During what followed, she told me she was leaving for Korea on Christmas day. I realized that I had about $50.00 in Korean Won left in my wallet from my last trip to Korea in Sept. So after we were done, I gave her the Korean Won. The smile on her face was worth far more than what I had given her in total. She was a sweet, beautiful young woman and she appreciated that someone had been kind to her.

Now $50.00 in Won will not last long in Korea and I'm sure she understood that as much as I did. But I walked out of there feeling good about the world and myself. I wonder how Sashimi feels when he leaves an AMP.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]

A John,

Thanks and I had you in mind too in my last post as one of the decent guys!

And you are too right about choices. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes and bad choices and become better human beings. What if the only thing we take out of this world when we die is our character? Kind of makes it worth developing a good one. It may be that in pursuing this hobby we are all damned. Or it may be that we are just exercising our God-given sexuality in a way different from others.

But I do think that no matter how depraved any of us are, sex is somehow related to love and kindness and generosity are part of love. It's like any of the other little vices to which human kind is subject. If you can't afford to gamble you should not gamble. If you can't afford to monger properly, don't monger. Otherwise you are just a fool who can't control his impulses and behavior.


LexLuther

Had Candy today, Nice 36DD rack and nice personality too. Very sweet and tasty if I do say myself. hehe She will be here till March.

8888 across the board. Will repeat cause she wants to be Ms PC soon. :)

PC out

[QUOTE=LexLuther]A John,

Thanks and I had you in mind too in my last post as one of the decent guys!

And you are too right about choices. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes and bad choices and become better human beings. What if the only thing we take out of this world when we die is our character? Kind of makes it worth developing a good one. It may be that in pursuing this hobby we are all damned. Or it may be that we are just exercising our God-given sexuality in a way different from others.

But I do think that no matter how depraved any of us are, sex is somehow related to love and kindness and generosity are part of love. It's like any of the other little vices to which human kind is subject. If you can't afford to gamble you should not gamble. If you can't afford to monger properly, don't monger. Otherwise you are just a fool who can't control his impulses and behavior.


LexLuther[/QUOTE]

There are a lot of providers that have had it bad and don't need more shit from drunken asshole mongers. A little kindness goes a long way, but like in any profession you have providers who are incompetent and don't deserve the $$$ they are paid.

Hey fellow Mongers. Been out of touch for a while due to the job. But I get back into town and needed a fix. So I headed out to make the climb to the 4rth floor. Mamasan showed me a line up. As she only had three available for my 330am call. So I chose this slim, tall, big B cup to occupy my time.

Shower was decent and although she spent some time cleaning my asian area, I was not afforded that seemingly lost art of receiving some Asian pleasure. Nevertheless, the time spent with her was great! We did the DATY, while her almost uncovered BJ was very good. We covered all positions except cowgirl. But what turned me on the most is that she provided me with some DFKing. That did it for me! Whew! 8s across the board.

[QUOTE=Dcplay]Hi all,

I'm a first time poster as you will all will probably be able to tell. I have frequented 1413 many times and have been looking to expand my horizons recently. Last night I went to 1333 and had a lackluster experience that I wanted to share to see if it was the norm:

Went in, was asked if it was my first time there and I responded "yes." Girl came to greet me in my room (not all that great, 6 in terms of looks, but was older and could have been in better shape), and told me it was 60 for massage, shower, and suana. I agreed, thinking that "more" would come later. After all was said and done, all I got was a JO, even though I was basically asking for more.

Is this the norm for 1333? Does anything else ever happen there? Or was I not asking the right questions?[/QUOTE]DCPlayboy,
Welcome to the machine. I had to giggle. We have all been there and fucked up. You smelled of newbie, and made some basic rookie mistakes; therefore you got a HJ (I assumed JO=Jerk Off?). I am not going to elaborate more since I would rather teach you to fish than give you a fish.

Here is your homework: Read the forum. The answers to your questions, your errors, and more is there for you. Read, learn, apply, enjoy, post, repeat.

Two questions for you:[list=1][*]What was the name of your provider, her performance is expected given your goofs, but your description of her makes me want to know who NOT to ask for.[*]Any faves at 1413 you wish to post about?[/list]JJJake,
Can you still edit your post? I am sure some readers will enjoy your observations regarding a recent but unofficial RT...

LL

Junky11,

It's true that you will run across providers who have either chosen the wrong profession, or who are having a bad day, or maybe they are still new to the job and have not learned how to properly service a gent.

But it still remains true that unless you too are a novice, you should generally know what the tariff is. Or perhaps you agreed to it early on in the session. Whatever, you pay her what you know you are supposed to pay.

If you go in for a haircut and get a new barber who is not so good, is having a bad day, etc. You still pay what is expected. You may not give anything extra, but you pay.

I think the problem is that we call what we give the provider a "tip" and it's not. It's a fee for her service. But since that's illegal and suggests prostitution we call it a tip. But you still have to pay it. If you don't think she "deserves it" then talk to mamasan on your way out, after you have paid. Take her aside and speak with her. If you go back and have embarassed any of the girls, the rest will remember you as an asshole.

It's a credit to the AMP industry that they have learned to ask for the tip up front. Otherwise you'd have all sorts of cheap bastards (who have no business in an AMP) complaining that the girl did not "deserve it." Your proper response, if you got no satisfaction from the girl and none from the mamasan is to either not return, pick a different girl next time, tell others here about your bad experience, RTFF and find an AMP and girl where you think you'll be better served. But you never, ever cheat a working girl. Getting into that habit can be dangerous to your health.

Just keep in mind that what you are doing in an AMP makes you a criminal in the eyes of the law. Making a big deal out of the cost after you have been served is like starting an argument at an illegal gambling establishment or making a big fuss because you have just been sold some bad smack. You should know the risks before you buy. Negotiating before the deal is one thing. You can try to talk the girl down and good luck to you. But once she has done her part, no matter how poorly, you pay what you agreed. Otherwise you're an asshole.

LexLuther

Trying to educate the world of AMP goers, one jerk at a time.

Lex,

LMFAO
Good luck brother!

AJ