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A few "contributors" seem to keep trying to bait HPD into doing more raids on the local AMPs. Claims of corruption, pay-offs, bribes, free service, etc are just speculation. I wonder what the purpose of that speculation is. Are these "contributors" trying to push HPD into action? Are they "do-gooders" in disguise. Exactly what is their agenda? Or are they just plain stupid and cannot see the consequences of their continued accusations.

Look, if you go to an AMP and pay a room rental fee, what's wrong with that? You meet your girlfriend there and at no time do you discuss money, what's wrong with that? If at the end of seeing your honey, you want to leave a little pocket change on the table, what's wrong with that? It would be a pretty tough case to prove anything else happened UNLESS you tell HPD what you did and why. So just shut up, smile, and be on your way. Speculating that HPD is corrupt because they don't bust some alleged illegal activity is pretty stupid IMHO. No proof means no conviction so just shut the F up. HPD knows this, and that, I speculate, is why you don't have AMPs being busted on local laws. Now, if a business is running undocumented workers, or dodging taxes on income, well that's a different story and that is where you get the feds involved with provable evidence. Get it?

Ss.

[QUOTE=Shipshape;3088609]A few "contributors" seem to keep trying to bait HPD into doing more raids on the local AMPs. Claims of corruption, pay-offs, bribes, free service, etc are just speculation. I wonder what the purpose of that speculation is. Are these "contributors" trying to push HPD into action? Are they "do-gooders" in disguise. Exactly what is their agenda? Or are they just plain stupid and cannot see the consequences of their continued accusations.

Look, if you go to an AMP and pay a room rental fee, what's wrong with that? You meet your girlfriend there and at no time do you discuss money, what's wrong with that? If at the end of seeing your honey, you want to leave a little pocket change on the table, what's wrong with that? It would be a pretty tough case to prove anything else happened UNLESS you tell HPD what you did and why. So just shut up, smile, and be on your way. Speculating that HPD is corrupt because they don't bust some alleged illegal activity is pretty stupid IMHO. No proof means no conviction so just shut the F up. HPD knows this, and that, I speculate, is why you don't have AMPs being busted on local laws. Now, if a business is running undocumented workers, or dodging taxes on income, well that's a different story and that is where you get the feds involved with provable evidence. Get it?
Ss.[/QUOTE]OMG, SO much rage and boiling anger, brah! More better you go take one the kine Anger Management Class, LOL. But all seriousness aside, and I'm assuming of course that you are directing your venom and hatred at me since I just posted along the lines you are screaming about; as far as I am concerned, this remains a free country, a non-fascist nation, and the THOUGHT POLICE are not in control. So I do reserve the right, in fact the RESPONSIBILITY, proudly as a free American citizen, not only to think my thoughts but to openly voice what seems pertinent, and try and figure stuff out, and to exchange with others who have the COURAGE to stand up for their ideas and concerns as well. This remains a free country, my man, and free speech rules, bottom line, end of story. So, to your scared cowardly PARANOID self who is so afraid of speaking up and exposing the powers-that-be, I say, NEVER TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT FUCKING TALK ABOUT!

CK out.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3088671]OMG, SO much rage and boiling anger, brah! More better you go take one the kine Anger Management Class, LOL. But all seriousness aside, and I'm assuming of course that you are directing your venom and hatred at me since I just posted along the lines you are screaming about; as far as I am concerned, this remains a free country, a non-fascist nation, and the THOUGHT POLICE are not in control. So I do reserve the right, in fact the RESPONSIBILITY, proudly as a free American citizen, not only to think my thoughts but to openly voice what seems pertinent, and try and figure stuff out, and to exchange with others who have the COURAGE to stand up for their ideas and concerns as well. This remains a free country, my man, and free speech rules, bottom line, end of story. So, to your scared cowardly PARANOID self who is so afraid of speaking up and exposing the powers-that-be, I say, NEVER TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT FUCKING TALK ABOUT!

CK out.[/QUOTE]Either it is my poor attempt at writing or it is your inability to read. Both references to "shut the F up" were intended as advice if caught in a raid, not, as you suggest, to tell you what to do or say. Questioning the agenda of certain contributors must have hit a chord with you so if the shoe fits, well there yah go. My basic point is to question certain contributors intentions. Speculation as to the lack of involvement by HPD can only lead to what? Show your proof and I'm on board. Show the logic of what you say and then count me in. Speculate and bait, well it tells a lot and deserves no further discussion.

Ss.

[QUOTE=Shipshape;3088702]Show your proof and I'm on board. Show the logic of what you say and then count me in. [/QUOTE]From a series published in the Star Advertiser last month (names redacted, but are found in the articles):

HPD Soft on Discipline — [URL]http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/08/22/hawaii-news/hpd-soft-on-discipline/[/URL].

From the article: "When the victim, who was not arrested, asked the officer for his badge number, the officer refused to provide it. The officer also failed to submit a police report on the incident.

After the victim complained, the Honolulu Police Department opened a felony assault investigation, confirming the injury and the officer's actions. His punishment was a one-day suspension.

"Even a New York professor who teaches police ethics classes said she was familiar with the leniency of HPD sanctions. ".

Names of police officers disciplined for misconduct not released to public [URL]http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/08/22/hawaii-news/names-of-police-officers-disciplined-for-misconduct-not-released-to-public/[/URL].

From the article: "Short of being fired, police disciplined for misconduct are the only county and state workers in Hawaii whose names under state law cannot be released publicly. ".

"XXXX was accused of extorting money from the operator of an illegal gambling house and trying to cover it up. The former major eventually pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and filing a false tax return. Charges of extortion conspiracy, witness tampering and other alleged crimes were dropped as part of a 2013 plea deal. XXXX, who retired from HPD, initially was investigated by his own agency. But after that went nowhere, the FBI took over and, with new information, obtained a conviction in federal court. XXXX in 2013 was sentenced to eight months in prison. ".

"XXX admitted to using the names and Social Security numbers of two other officers and forging their signatures to get special-duty work. He left the force after police became aware of the offenses. XXXX told the court he knew what he did was wrong but thought it wasn't criminal. ".

"XXX Sentenced in July to three months in jail and three months of home confinement for knowingly buying and selling a stolen vehicle".

"XXX Pleaded guilty to extorting money from bar owner".

"XXX Assisted in illegal gambling operations, concealed and attempted to dispose of illegal gambling documents, failed to enforce criminal laws".

"XXX Prosecuted for failure to report game room assault by fellow officer".

And the list goes on.

Survey of Honolulu Police Department officer misconduct surprises national experts [URL]http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/08/21/hawaii-news/survey-of-honolulu-police-department-officer-misconduct-surprises-national-experts/[/URL].

From the article: "Nearly 1 of every 6 current Honolulu Police Department officers have been taken to court over criminal or civil allegations of wrongdoing, ranging from excessive force to domestic abuse, according to a first-of-its-kind analysis by the Honolulu Star-Advertiser. ".

"To have the percentage you found is really just astonishing to me," said XXXX, professor emeritus at the University of Nebraska's School of Criminology and Criminal Justice in Omaha. ".

From Hawaii News Now:

Man who triggered FBI probe into HPD chief goes before grand jury [URL]http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/33163725/relative-at-center-of-fbi-probe-into-honolulus-police-chief-goes-before-grand-jury[/URL].

HPD officer accused of bribing prostitute won't face criminal charges [URL]http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/32852221/hpd-officer-accused-of-bribing-hooker-will-not-face-criminal-charges[/URL].

Feds: Hawaii brothel owner bribed agents for protection [URL]http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/32015201/feds-hawaii-brothel-owner-bribed-agents-for-protection[/URL].

From the article: "A criminal complaint filed Tuesday in federal court accuses XXXX of bribing Homeland Security Investigations special agents last year. The document says she made the offer after two Chinese women at her massage parlor were arrested for prostitution. She allegedly told the agents she wants the same arrangement her friend has with a Honolulu law enforcement officer. ".

And why is is that the feds seems to be the only ones who can make a successful prosecution? Curious.

[QUOTE=Shipshape;3088702]Either it is my poor attempt at writing or it is your inability to read.[/QUOTE]It's you. It's all you.

Last night, I spent 2 hours talking to Star using a very bad translation program. The bottom line is that during that conversation, we determined that she has a stalker and he is the person who created the above aliases.

Last night, he sent me 2 private messages. The first from BigOldPatrolman asked me why I defended Star against his allegations that she has an STD. I responded to him saying I talked to her and that she said he is lying. I told him if he is indeed telling the truth that he should message me the details and I would verify his claims either way. The second message was from the I'd Starsboyfriend. This guy said that he was Stars boyfriend and he would come after me if I tried to take her out and try to become her boyfriend. He also said that she has a child with him in Korea. Star was in shock at these allegations and denied them all. She wanted to cry and asked why people are treating her like this. Well, it turns out it is just one person.

After she confirmed that this guy was a fraud, we put two and two together. BigOldPatrolman contacted me in June (I checked my private messages and A2 can look there to verify my claims if he likes) asking for Star's telephone number in Korea because he said he was going there. He said she provided it to him, but he lost his phone. Of course, I summarily rejected his request.

What the hell kind of sick people are out there who would make up such lies? What I determined is that this guy is a jilted wannabee lover to Star. By the way, if anyone doubts how good Star is, this proves it. Star does not send mixed messages about how she feels about you. She is just an escort. She will not do what some girls do by whispering sweet nothings at you like saying, "I love you" or "I want to marry you" or "you are my boyfriend" or stuff like that.

Shit the same thing happened with Bin. I hope it wasn't the same person. For what it's worth, Star is just a friend. I have no intentions of trying to be her boyfriend. Same is true with all the other girls with whom I have a good relationship. I just treat them well and they treat me well and they have great sex with me. That's what this hobby is for. It's not to find a girlfriend or wife. If you want that, go to [URL]match.com[/URL] or eharmony.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;3089057]From a series published in the Star Advertiser last month (names redacted, but are found in the articles):

HPD Soft on Discipline [URL]http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/08/22/hawaii-news/hpd-soft-on-discipline/[/URL].


And why is is that the feds seems to be the only ones who can make a successful prosecution? Curious.

It's you. It's all you.[/QUOTE]Your post was only redacted to save space. It is an excellent compilation of showing that HPD does indeed have "issues" within the department. I do appreciate that you took the time to compile to demonstrate it. However, back on point. What is gained by the listing? What is the potential outcome (s). What is the agenda? I for one, am interested in only one thing and that is to find my favorite and safe "watering holes". I value the reports on busts to be sure as those reports can and do effect my meandering decisions. Claims of corruption serve no purpose other than to expose it. Why? What's the point of doing that in THIS forum? Please note I realize and with your extensive cut and paste you have clearly demonstrated it exists. I do not deny that at all. I just am curious why on this particular forum some folks post what appears to be complaints about corruption. What do they want, for it to go away and to have HPD clean up their act? I don't. In fact, I wish there was MORE so we could enjoy this hobby in peace. That's it, pretty simple.

Ss.

[QUOTE=Shipshape;3089571]I just am curious why on this particular forum some folks post what appears to be complaints about corruption. What do they want, for it to go away and to have HPD clean up their act? I don't. In fact, I wish there was MORE so we could enjoy this hobby in peace. That's it, pretty simple.

Ss.[/QUOTE]Whenever there's a bust, people are always looking for a reason as to why it happened. Why this AMP and not that AMP? And my speculation has always, as demonstrated from the evidence at hand, that someone didn't pay Officer Friendly his protection money. I am offering my thoughts, supported by my own experience of being born, raised, and educated here, moving to the mainland and coming back. It's also my right.

Now, I will agree that corrupt cops are keeping the AMPs open. My problem is that you can't trust a corrupt cop. Let's say you get busted in a raid. Sure, the conventional wisdom is that they'll just let you go. But what if they see that nice Mercedes you just rolled up in, notice that Swiss watch strapped to your wrist and that roll of Benjis in your pocket? What's to stop them from shaking YOU down, and to keep on shaking you down if you have a marriage you want to preserve or a job that requires you don't get into any trouble? I've mongered in Tijuana a few times, and you do not want to have anything to do with the cops there.

I also have an extreme distrust of anyone who tells me I should put my blind faith that they will always do the right thing. But then again, the evidence being what it is, it's not like there's nothing to make think otherwise, either. Anytime you have an organization coming into contact with an illegal business that generated a lot of cash, the end result will always be corruption. It is the nature of people to look out for themselves. Even if the HPD were to clean up its act, what it would really mean is that someone's offering double, or triple what they previously offering.

Am I antagonizing them? I sincerely doubt it. I believe the AMP owner that got busted by the feds offered about $5 k, so we can assume that's the going rate and it's being paid out on a regular basis. With that much money rolling in, from the AMPs in town, they could care less about the conspiratorial rantings of one person on a bulletin board. They're way too busy counting their cash and trying to figure out how to hide it (though according to those links, some of them aren't so good at that, either.). Their own chief is under federal investigation and he still has his badge, and if that isn't making them worry, what I'm saying certainly won't.

And I'm just saying what a lot of people, not just on this board, say out loud. If the HPD was that concerned about keeping up appearances, they would have pretended to do something a long time ago. I'm sure you're heard other people saying the same thing, who aren't even interested in the AMP scene here. Corruption, be it overt like like a cop taking a bribe or a BJ, to something more subtle like using a family connection to secure a good job, seems to be baked into the fabric of society here. You can't even make the case that it's an "acceptable" level of corruption. I'm just sick of it.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;3089835]Whenever there's a bust, people are always looking for a reason as to why it happened. Why this AMP and not that AMP? And my speculation has always, as demonstrated from the evidence at hand, that someone didn't pay Officer Friendly his protection money. I am offering my thoughts, supported by my own experience of being born, raised, and educated here, moving to the mainland and coming back. It's also my right.

Now, I will agree that corrupt cops are keeping the AMPs open. My problem is that you can't trust a corrupt cop. Let's say you get busted in a raid. Sure, the conventional wisdom is that they'll just let you go. But what if they see that nice Mercedes you just rolled up in, notice that Swiss watch strapped to your wrist and that roll of Benjis in your pocket? What's to stop them from shaking YOU down, and to keep on shaking you down if you have a marriage you want to preserve or a job that requires you don't get into any trouble? I've mongered in Tijuana a few times, and you do not want to have anything to do with the cops there.

I also have an extreme distrust of anyone who tells me I should put my blind faith that they will always do the right thing. But then again, the evidence being what it is, it's not like there's nothing to make think otherwise, either. Anytime you have an organization coming into contact with an illegal business that generated a lot of cash, the end result will always be corruption. It is the nature of people to look out for themselves. Even if the HPD were to clean up its act, what it would really mean is that someone's offering double, or triple what they previously offering.

Am I antagonizing them? I sincerely doubt it. I believe the AMP owner that got busted by the feds offered about $5 k, so we can assume that's the going rate and it's being paid out on a regular basis. With that much money rolling in, from the AMPs in town, they could care less about the conspiratorial rantings of one person on a bulletin board. They're way too busy counting their cash and trying to figure out how to hide it (though according to those links, some of them aren't so good at that, either.). Their own chief is under federal investigation and he still has his badge, and if that isn't making them worry, what I'm saying certainly won't.

And I'm just saying what a lot of people, not just on this board, say out loud. If the HPD was that concerned about keeping up appearances, they would have pretended to do something a long time ago. I'm sure you're heard other people saying the same thing, who aren't even interested in the AMP scene here. Corruption, be it overt like like a cop taking a bribe or a BJ, to something more subtle like using a family connection to secure a good job, seems to be baked into the fabric of society here. You can't even make the case that it's an "acceptable" level of corruption. I'm just sick of it.[/QUOTE]I didn't grow up here, and have only lived here a couple of years, so I'm asking this question to all the born and bread locals. Has anyone ever played for or known someone who played for the HPD police youth athletic league? Donations to police youth athletic leagues is so common on the mainland that it's been a cliche in movies for decades. Or, for that matter, the police retirement fund. Same kind of scam.

[QUOTE=PanochaMan;3090020]I didn't grow up here, and have only lived here a couple of years, so I'm asking this question to all the born and bread locals. Has anyone ever played for or known someone who played for the HPD police youth athletic league? Donations to police youth athletic leagues is so common on the mainland that it's been a cliche in movies for decades. Or, for that matter, the police retirement fund. Same kind of scam.[/QUOTE]I've played "PAL" sports when I was a kid and coached several sports as an adult. I don't recall ever making a $ donation to them but I've literally donated hundreds of hours of my time coaching.

PAL or the "Police Activities League" is organized by HPD officers. They are broken down by district and each district has one or two cops assigned to create and organize different sports leagues. Most common is baseball but there are also flag football and volleyball leagues around the island. HPD officers are usually the league directors. They arrange for the park venues, get the refs (most of them also ref themselves) and create the schedule and league rules. Various community groups / clubs will provide the teams. Usually not as competitive as say, Cal Ripken or Pony baseball. Emphasis is on keeping the kids off the street rather than fostering competition, although as with anything parent involved, it can get competitive!

Like you, I've seen the donation stickers and made the same assumptions you did. I believe PAL is a worthwhile endeavor and is generally subsidized out of HPD's budget. Not sure how it works with the AMPs and donations though.

BJ.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;3089835]Whenever there's a bust, people are always looking for a reason as to why it happened. Why this AMP and not that AMP? And my speculation has always, as demonstrated from the evidence at hand, that someone didn't pay Officer Friendly his protection money. I am offering my thoughts, supported by my own experience of being born, raised, and educated here, moving to the mainland and coming back. It's also my right.

Now, I will agree that corrupt cops are keeping the AMPs open. My problem is that you can't trust a corrupt cop. Let's say you get busted in a raid. Sure, the conventional wisdom is that they'll just let you go. But what if they see that nice Mercedes you just rolled up in, notice that Swiss watch strapped to your wrist and that roll of Benjis in your pocket? What's to stop them from shaking YOU down, and to keep on shaking you down if you have a marriage you want to preserve or a job that requires you don't get into any trouble? I've mongered in Tijuana a few times, and you do not want to have anything to do with the cops there.

I also have an extreme distrust of anyone who tells me I should put my blind faith that they will always do the right thing. But then again, the evidence being what it is, it's not like there's nothing to make think otherwise, either. Anytime you have an organization coming into contact with an illegal business that generated a lot of cash, the end result will always be corruption. It is the nature of people to look out for themselves. Even if the HPD were to clean up its act, what it would really mean is that someone's offering double, or triple what they previously offering.

Am I antagonizing them? I sincerely doubt it. I believe the AMP owner that got busted by the feds offered about $5 k, so we can assume that's the going rate and it's being paid out on a regular basis. With that much money rolling in, from the AMPs in town, they could care less about the conspiratorial rantings of one person on a bulletin board. They're way too busy counting their cash and trying to figure out how to hide it (though according to those links, some of them aren't so good at that, either.). Their own chief is under federal investigation and he still has his badge, and if that isn't making them worry, what I'm saying certainly won't.

And I'm just saying what a lot of people, not just on this board, say out loud. If the HPD was that concerned about keeping up appearances, they would have pretended to do something a long time ago. I'm sure you're heard other people saying the same thing, who aren't even interested in the AMP scene here. Corruption, be it overt like like a cop taking a bribe or a BJ, to something more subtle like using a family connection to secure a good job, seems to be baked into the fabric of society here. You can't even make the case that it's an "acceptable" level of corruption. I'm just sick of it.[/QUOTE]Well said, DangerBoy! Lot of pertinent and articulate commentary you've offered here. I was definitely speculating in my post in the General thread about possible HPD corruption. I just think it's a really interesting topic, I had no other motive for voicing my ideas on the matter. Shipshape, my brother from another mother, his concerns about "agendas" and "baiting", if in fact meant to be aimed in my direction, or at least meant to include me, unfortunately go right over my head. Frankly, I'm too naive a person to even HAVE an agenda! I'm curious about what goes on around me, that's about it. And I find the AMP dynamic in Honolulu to be quite an intriguing phenomenon! On the one hand, I'm in complete agreement on how much it sucks that there apparently is corruption in local LE because this means you can never really trust in the guys and gals in blue who are supposedly there to protect you and I, and your tax dollars pay those guys' salaries! But, since prostitution is illegal here in Hawaii, and as there seems to be some agreement, on this board anyway, that legalized prostitution would actually create a number of new problems for our hobby and also for the providers, then maybe we as mongers are better off with the AMP sex biz remaining under the table, and I repeat what I speculated in my other post, IF LE's on the take from the AMPs, then it's in LE's best interest NOT to shut down all the AMPs, and therefore, unfortunately, the corrupt cops are actually protecting our ability to have relatively safe and sanitary venues where we can continue to indulge in our hobby, and viewed in this light, police corruption is our ally! Seriously and honestly, I have no agenda, I just find this, as I said, a fascinating and intriguing sociological phenomenon. The juxtaposition of conflicting cultural values, physical needs, and political realities is totally trippy IMHO! What a CRAZY world we live in! Just saying.

CK out.

[QUOTE=BJHawaii;3090065]I've played "PAL" sports when I was a kid and coached several sports as an adult. I don't recall ever making a $ donation to them but I've literally donated hundreds of hours of my time coaching.

PAL or the "Police Activities League" is organized by HPD officers. They are broken down by district and each district has one or two cops assigned to create and organize different sports leagues. Most common is baseball but there are also flag football and volleyball leagues around the island. HPD officers are usually the league directors. They arrange for the park venues, get the refs (most of them also ref themselves) and create the schedule and league rules. Various community groups / clubs will provide the teams. Usually not as competitive as say, Cal Ripken or Pony baseball. Emphasis is on keeping the kids off the street rather than fostering competition, although as with anything parent involved, it can get competitive!

Like you, I've seen the donation stickers and made the same assumptions you did. I believe PAL is a worthwhile endeavor and is generally subsidized out of HPD's budget. Not sure how it works with the AMPs and donations though.

BJ.[/QUOTE]It's been awhile, but aren't contributions to SHOPO (the police union) and the window decal they give you considered to be the "golden ticket" to get out of speeding citations and that sort of thing? I know some people who would put HPD caps in their rear windows too. But now that I think about it, I haven't seen either of those since I've gotten back.

When I worked in retail, maybe 15 years ago, a rep from the sheriff's department came asking for donations to something they were doing. He said they'd throw in a window decal, but even he joked it wasn't like getting a SHOPO sticker.

But I do remember that in California, the CHP's 11-99 Foundation (and the license plate frame they gave out) supposedly got you out of tickets. Not sure what the equivalent for the LAPD would be.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;3090099]It's been awhile, but aren't contributions to SHOPO (the police union) and the window decal they give you considered to be the "golden ticket" to get out of speeding citations and that sort of thing? I know some people who would put HPD caps in their rear windows too. But now that I think about it, I haven't seen either of those since I've gotten back.

When I worked in retail, maybe 15 years ago, a rep from the sheriff's department came asking for donations to something they were doing. He said they'd throw in a window decal, but even he joked it wasn't like getting a SHOPO sticker.

But I do remember that in California, the CHP's 11-99 Foundation (and the license plate frame they gave out) supposedly got you out of tickets. Not sure what the equivalent for the LAPD would be.[/QUOTE]LOL! I've had the Sheriffs solicit me too! SHOPO is different from PAL which actually a part of HPD itself, but yes, I've seen both SHOPO and PAL stickers on various establishments and vehicles. Now that you mention it, I think I still have a PAL t-shirt. I should wear it next time I make a visit!

BJ.

[QUOTE=BJHawaii;3090065]I've played "PAL" sports when I was a kid and coached several sports as an adult. I don't recall ever making a $ donation to them but I've literally donated hundreds of hours of my time coaching.

PAL or the "Police Activities League" is organized by HPD officers. They are broken down by district and each district has one or two cops assigned to create and organize different sports leagues. Most common is baseball but there are also flag football and volleyball leagues around the island. HPD officers are usually the league directors. They arrange for the park venues, get the refs (most of them also ref themselves) and create the schedule and league rules. Various community groups / clubs will provide the teams. Usually not as competitive as say, Cal Ripken or Pony baseball. Emphasis is on keeping the kids off the street rather than fostering competition, although as with anything parent involved, it can get competitive!

Like you, I've seen the donation stickers and made the same assumptions you did. I believe PAL is a worthwhile endeavor and is generally subsidized out of HPD's budget. Not sure how it works with the AMPs and donations though.

BJ.[/QUOTE]Cool, then our favorite establishments are very civic minded. Thanks for helping me out there.

It's bound to happen if they chick is kpop hot and provides the service she's capable of. I would know. In any event she's got a dude who's infatuated with who's giving her the serious Willies. It's funny that the dude tried to say she had a rumored illness but that he had it with her anyway using a condom. Who the F willingly sees an actually rumored sick person? Wanted to comment on it then but I was too lazy to type. Trust me I laughed when I read that poor attempt. Dudes a straight liar but she's also rubbed some in the biz the wrong way and we theorized it might be them hiring negative shills. I saw a strange luggish dude full on obsessing over her calling out her name I just thought he was drunk but more I think about it this dude is probsbly him.

I told her she should get a job at a hostess bar. She'd probably make more for giving out less. I also informed her of the ghonnorrea scare on the islands and told her to take a break for now. She thanked me profusely. Who knows if she takes a break tho. I know I am. She's a sweetheart tho and wish nothing but good for her.

Anyong Star.