"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=BigTigger;1944141]Unfortunately I am going to have to cash out and take an early retirement. Nothing has happened at home, but for a number of reasons, now is the time for me to transition back to family man and hubby.

I will still monitor the board and may even give advice. But I am burning my bowling shoes brethern.

BigTigg. Out![/QUOTE]BT. I'm speaking for this entire forum when I say that we wish you the best and hope that you stay in touch. I learned a lot from your posts, and although I simply can't juggle a fraction of the number of SBs that you seem to handle with ease, I still related closely with some of your experiences and learned from them.

I haven't had anywhere near your success in the bowl, but I know from personal experience that I couldn't give it up cold turkey. So my hat is off to you if you have the will power to make the transition without severe withdrawal symptoms. I AM curious to know why you decided to retire at this time. I'm sure others are interested also if you choose to share.

Either way...best of luck in your future endeavors.

Alias.

[QUOTE=BigTigger;1944141]Unfortunately I am going to have to cash out and take an early retirement. Nothing has happened at home, but for a number of reasons, now is the time for me to transition back to family man and hubby.

I will still monitor the board and may even give advice. But I am burning my bowling shoes brethern.

BigTigg. Out![/QUOTE]BT,

I can understand your motivations, but want to reiterate that you will be missed. You are truly an inspiration to us all, and your posts will go down in legend.

Good luck, and see you soon again, I hope.

Scott.

Hi guys,

I lurk on this board regularly although I am not in Richmond, and thanks to all for tips and recounting the adventures. I have a regular SB for several months that is getting stale so am looking for a possible addition or replacement. Joined SA and pretty quick found 3-4 POT nearby. One M&G set up for next week...this gal is older and was looking for a rather high allowance. (3 K) I told her that she was out of my league and I liked what I saw but sorry. Now she is willing to accept a gift for each meeting. Its a bit of a drive to see her but if that works out it would be more my style. It is too easy to get into a "regular allowance" thing and then the enthusiasm starts to slip. Been there done that. So I am applying the knowledge of our honored members here (Tigg!) Another POT was looking for a LTR and I told her no way, so now she is willing to meet NSA. Money talks, so many broke babes out there.

Cheers,

Krusty.

[QUOTE=BigTigger;1944141]Unfortunately I am going to have to cash out and take an early retirement. Nothing has happened at home, but for a number of reasons, now is the time for me to transition back to family man and hubby.

I will still monitor the board and may even give advice. But I am burning my bowling shoes brethern.

BigTigg. Out![/QUOTE]BT, Say it isn't so! Life without your reports will be strange indeed. I'll miss them. Good luck and I'm sure you'll be back. You will go down in history as one of the most prolific Daddies of all time.

I figure there are 4 reasons why we quit the bowl:

1) money 2) marital arrest. 3) health issues , and 4) true desire to be monogamous again with the SO

If you are retiring / laid off I can see where you might have to eliminate the Sugar budget. My finances are increasingly monitored by the SO and business is not very good in this current environment, so I have less to play with.

And I am under marital arrest so it is difficult to get out and play without my phone going off at awkward times and having to report my whereabouts. If I didn't want to stay married I would say F**k it But divorce would create a huge financial strain and maybe make it impossible to Sugar anyway. So I am better off laying low and getting some Sugaring in when I can. I will take a second and third job to be able to stay in the game. How many 60 yr olds get to bang 20 somethings?

[QUOTE=FredMoore;1944752] How many 60 yr olds get to bang 20 somethings?[/QUOTE]That are true np's... Not many. (not to mention the 18 and 19 year olds that need our guidance and training)

I am from Cincinnati and have had good success on SA and currently in a relationship with a very hot sweet young woman. Enjoy reading your helpful posts. What does FC mean? Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Showtime2020;1944289]... I walked her to her car bc I had to pay for her parking and it reeked of weed. I thought I was going to smell like it too. She agreed to another meet but I'm renegotiating next visit...[/QUOTE]If silence wasn't bad enough, that would change everything for me. I want to know the real lady, not the doped up one.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;1943936]Look at the risk / rewards:

Risk: socializing in public increases exposure, spend more $$ , possibly never getting to the FC.

Reward: A true connection not predicated only on sex / money, less allowance if she likes you.

I have read the SA "rules" and been on their blog about this very topic. The girls are advised to "date" for x times before giving up the Quan so she might be holding onto some preconceived number. Tell her you are very attracted to her and that while you respect her desire to go slow you need some kind of indication from her what the plan is. If she is evasive and too open ended then give her a deadline. Normal adults don't "date" for months before burying the one eyed snake. Just saying.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your thoughts. Here is an update:

Sunday afternoon I get a text from her asking if she was ready to move forward with an arrangement how much would I be willing to help her out. I reply 150 for a couple of hours. She is agreeable and we make a date for yesterday afternoon. I get the room at my favorite no tell and she shows up right on time. As she is getting undressed she tells me she has never done this before (don't they all say that? So we hop in the sack and when she goes to give daddy some luvin, she asks if I have ny condoms. Having been in this for a very long time I have learned to always show up with my own supply. Too many times I read about girls who pull the "I don't have any condoms" trick. But here is where it starts to go bad. I am informed that it will be a CBJ. Well, I'm already here, dick is hard, so I figure I have to go for it. I let her do her thing and end up exploding in the cover. Fine, I figure round two will be better. So, we start off with another CBJ. I get to the point where I ask her to mount up for CG, and she says "let's just do oral this time". Ok, now she has pissed me off. 150 for 2 CBJ's, 42 for the room. Not much of a value here.

As I am driving away, I say to myself "NEXT". Sometimes they are so hot looking and sweet. You get them in bed and you start to wonder what the hell happened.

And then today, I get just an awful phone call. My company has been downsizing and this time I didn't make the cut. So, my hobby efforts go on hold until I can get my financial situation fixed. This will make it impossible to hide hobby money from the SO. At least now I don't have to tell her she is awful in bed and I am no longer interested.

Hopefully I will be partaking in the pleasures again in a very short time.

Everyone be safe out there.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1944216]Last thing I remember I was running for the door – I had to find the passage back to the place I was before. "Relax," said the night man, "We are programmed to receive." "You can checkout any time you like, but you can never leave." Hotel California.[/QUOTE]As a long time follower of this board. Actually from the first post. It has been my pleasure to live thru you guys adventures. I do not have the time to do it myself. Believe me I would love to. Anyway to the point BT I wish you all the luck going forward, but like the song said "You can never leave". LMFAO..

[QUOTE=Funda;1945166]I am from Cincinnati and have had good success on SA and currently in a relationship with a very hot sweet young woman. Enjoy reading your helpful posts. What does FC mean? Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]FC = Fucking Chamber. Wherever the fucking is done.

Thanks for the kind words fellow bowlers. I'll not go into much detail. I'll just say that sometimes in life you have those eye opening moments that cause you to pause and reflect on your actions. I had one of those moments and decided that the SD / SB world was no longer for me. Fortunately I was in a position to walk away on my own terms and without any drama, babies, diseases and money left over...what more could I ask for, LOL.

I'll be around, may even give advice. I'll just not be participating.

One thing I've learned, is be "all in" when you are in. You never want to look back and say. I wish I would have.

BigTigg.

I realized today that I need to pace myself I'm hunting down too many prospects instead of cultivating the seeds I've already sewn. Yesterday I got a reply from a true 10 in my book, a 24 yr old nursing student with an amazing body, at least in pictures. We negotiated by text $ per week and I would come to her place twice a week. The beauty of the situation is that she lives 5 blocks away from my job so it's super convenient. I was trying tkToday I begin texting.

I realized today that I need to pace myself I'm hunting down too many prospects instead of cultivating the seeds I've already sewn. Yesterday I got a reply from a true 10 in my book, a 24 yr old nursing student with an amazing body, at least in pictures. We negotiated by text $ per week and I would come to her place twice a week. The beauty of the situation is that she lives 5 blocks away from my job so it's super convenient. I was trying to confirm the M&G and she stopped texting oh well, just lost her I thought. Fast forward to today and I'm texting with this 18 yr old prospect we negotiate terms and Set up the M&G for the following day, she then asks me to pick her up from a local HIGH SCHOOL. At that point I'm having flashbacks of To Catch a Predator and I'm like no way. Then I get another text from the 10 and she wants to meet, I accedently send the message meant for the 18 yr old to the 24 yr old. The message wasn't bad it just said that she is too young and that I can't do it. I also sent one to the 10 saying the message wasn't supposed to go to her but I haven't heard from her since.

If we still have the meet and great then she understands the program. If not oh well, I have far too many babes in the bowl right now. Just goes to show that taking my time would of saved me from some potential embarrassment.

[QUOTE=Showtime2020;1946341]I realized today that I need to pace myself I'm hunting down too many prospects instead of cultivating the seeds I've already sewn. Yesterday I got a reply from a true 10 in my book, a 24 yr old nursing student with an amazing body, at least in pictures. We negotiated by text $ per week and I would come to her place twice a week. The beauty of the situation is that she lives 5 blocks away from my job so it's super convenient. I was trying to confirm the M&G and she stopped texting oh well, just lost her I thought. Fast forward to today and I'm texting with this 18 yr old prospect we negotiate terms and Set up the M&G for the following day, she then asks me to pick her up from a local HIGH SCHOOL. At that point I'm having flashbacks of To Catch a Predator and I'm like no way. Then I get another text from the 10 and she wants to meet, I accedently send the message meant for the 18 yr old to the 24 yr old. The message wasn't bad it just said that she is too young and that I can't do it. I also sent one to the 10 saying the message wasn't supposed to go to her but I haven't heard from her since.

If we still have the meet and great then she understands the program. If not oh well, I have far too many babes in the bowl right now. Just goes to show that taking my time would of saved me from some potential embarrassment.[/QUOTE]I had also learned the hard way to double check who I am texting what to BEFORE I press send. Your cutting loose the 18 y / o is understandable. I hope you hear back from the 24 y / o. Sounds like a great find. If not, be patient. There are more where she came from. Like you said, cutlivate the seeds that are planted instead of planting more. Sometimes we get so much going on that we don't pay proper attention to the true prospects.

Good luck.

Haven't checked in lately because there hasn't been much news. I was out of town for a week over the holiday, tried my hand at finding a travel SB with no luck.

On the home front I continue to see my little wasp princess once or twice a week, usually for 4-6 hours each visit. She is a sweetheart who is communicative, cuddly, and seems genuinely concerned about me being happy. She has a regular boyfriend that I think she is conflicted about; I think I provide her a much needed escape. The sex is good, not great, but I enjoy the hours we spend together whether in the FC, out at dinner, or watching a movie. I'll be keeping her around as long as she likes, at 500 month, she's a bargain.

Cuban spice was radio silent for a while and then texted to set up a get together. She mentioned she would need some sugar this visit (there was none on our first visit to the FC) and I said of course. She said that she would like $$ per visit and I told her I was sorry, but $ was my budget. She said she understood, and then I didn't hear from her for a few days. I assumed she was lost, and then she began texting me again, just to say Hello,. I responded quickly to all her texts, asking about things going on in her life but not mentioning getting together or sugar again. Ultimately she let me know she would like to see me, so we set it up. Upon arrival she was very sweet, and we had a great afternoon session, then a late lunch. I gave her $, she seemed fine, and we agreed to get together again this weekend. I think she is probably more booty call girl than regular, but I plan to hit it a few times more in the next week or so and see where it goes.

My regular booty call girl (she's really UTR) had been mad at me a while back but we patched up right before she went out of town. She's a sweet girl but maybe not the sharpest in the world. While I say she is UTR, she always spends several hours with me or stays over, we have a few glasses of wine, and she let's me do pretty much anything I can think of. We had been texting for a while after our little spat and finally I had her over right before I went out of town. A former president is reputed to have said he wasn't done with a woman until he had had her three ways; that night I checked the last box for my booty call. She's been texting me again this week, I will need to service her again soon to maintain diplomatic relations.

I have 3-4 of pot's that I've been texting, but haven't been on a M&G lately. I hope to set up a couple this week. I'm particularly hopeful about a 25 yo divorced latina who I would rate 9/9/8/ She really sounds like a true first timer, although she has the dreaded "friend who does this and encouraged me to give it a try". Stay tuned.

For the holidays I'm thinking spa gift certificates for the wasp for sure, maybe for the cubana as well. What do some of you guys do for Christmas?

While things were a little slower this month, life is still very good.

I've been mongering for many years, and following the thread here I decided to get an account at SA. I just use it like a wishbook. Haven't sprung for a paid membership and just like to see what's available.

Imagine my surprise earlier this week when a former student showed up on the sugarbaby list! She's 18 and pretty cute. She said in her ad that she heard about the site from a friend. Scrolling down the list a bit more. Another former student! This one is 19 and thin. From what I know about the 19 yo, she is really likely to put out. Even if I didn't know them, they'd be tempting. But the fact that they were students, and now are legal age and not my responsibility anymore adds some spice to the equation.

So the question before the jury is this: Should I risk it? I use a fake-but-close picture, and not my real name (I'm horny, not stupid!) in my ad, so I could remain anonymous up until time for a meet. The risk is that word could get back to current students, which would be super bad. But then, they would have to explain their side of it, too. Even if I had never met them before, they would be tempting, but the extra thrill really makes me want to at least see where it could go.

Thoughts?

Gentlemen,

A treasured baby of mine has been the victim, apparently, of a malicious internet post, and I would like to help her resolve it if I could. In truth, I don't know if the allegations are true or not, but the poster(s) were extremely mean and vitriolic. She has hired a lawyer, but I would appreciate any advice or wisdom anyone could provide. PM me if you would like, but at the moment I am contemplating Hot Revenge. She does not deserve this, even if it is true.

Chaneling Charles Bronson,

Scott

[QUOTE=FScott;1947076]Gentlemen,

A treasured baby of mine has been the victim, apparently, of a malicious internet post, and I would like to help her resolve it if I could. In truth, I don't know if the allegations are true or not, but the poster(s) were extremely mean and vitriolic. She has hired a lawyer, but I would appreciate any advice or wisdom anyone could provide. PM me if you would like, but at the moment I am contemplating Hot Revenge. She does not deserve this, even if it is true.

Chaneling Charles Bronson,

Scott[/QUOTE]My kingdom for a hacker!! Truthfully, I have no confidence a lawyer could do anything. But hire a hacker. I feel sorry for the poor devil... Only wish they advertised.

[QUOTE=FScott;1947076]Gentlemen,

A treasured baby of mine has been the victim, apparently, of a malicious internet post, and I would like to help her resolve it if I could. In truth, I don't know if the allegations are true or not, but the poster(s) were extremely mean and vitriolic. She has hired a lawyer, but I would appreciate any advice or wisdom anyone could provide. PM me if you would like, but at the moment I am contemplating Hot Revenge. She does not deserve this, even if it is true.

Chaneling Charles Bronson,

Scott[/QUOTE]PM me the post. I work on the internet.

First off let me say my farewell to BigTigg...there are many seniors on here who have helped me shape myself into the SD that I am now. I enjoyed reading his exploits and was always very entertained.

Since my last post my Sorority SB has turned into my ATF, she and I text on a daily basis and is very accommodating to pretty much anything I ask. She sends pictures when I'm bored at work and keeps me very well entertained when I'm with and without her. I have seen here about three times since my last post and everytime I am always very pleasantly surprised. The only thing she will not agree to is greekbut everything else is on the menu from BBBJ, CIM, and every single position that I can think of. If I was going to put a definition on what an "ATF" means she would be it.

My second college SB is now known as my "Softball SB"-After spending a couple more dates with her and finding out more about her she confessed that she used to play softball for her high school and played for her college until she messed her knee up. That pretty much explains her height and her athletic build, since she has stopped working out I can tell she has gained a little bit of weight but is still a head turner. I was finally able to get her to meet me for a FC and had a ton of fun considering I was comparing her to my ATF LOL. Her menu isn't as open as my ATF but is still very open to experimentation, a BBBJ she is not a swallower but does take the "D" like a champ. Since school is letting out for Christmas break she informed me that she will me transferring schools due to her loss of the athletic scholarship.

Now on to my POTS...I have had several contact me wanting to meet but they have all fallen through or either flaked out within a couple days of talking. I did manage to keep one on the hook for about two week until me agreed on a M&G. She lives about 3 hrs from me and we decided to meet on a "neutral court" haha. I arranged a hotel room and she arrived on time. She wasn't as cute or as willing to my commands as the ATF or my softball SB but I had driving out so far I decided to give her a try. I asked her to wear what my current girls always wear on the first date which is high heels and a skirt. She showed up in jeans and a tank top, she said it was way to cold to wear a skirt and tried to play it off. I kept asking her to change into it but she seemed to get annoyed at my request so finally I said fuck it and lets go. Once in the car I kept asking questions hoping she would play along but continued to hit a brick wall. We went out to eat and visited a couple of clubs..she kept bragging about her alcohol tolerance and I was very reluctant to buy what she requested since she looked like she weighed about 115 lbs. After about 3 hrs of eating and clubbing I decided to cut her off and try her out in the FC which she agreed to, on the way back she was wasted and could barely keep her eyes open hahaha once we arrived at the hotel I made the mistake of NOT buying condoms and had to walk across the street to do so. Once I got back to the hotel room I found her passed the fuck out. I tried to wake her with no success...I packed my shit up and left her gas money and left. The next day she texted apologizing profusely. I have not responded since then.

PASSED OUT SB:

LOOKS: 7.

ATTITUDE: 3.

SKILLS: 0.

STAY TUNED TO MY NEXT ADVENTURES AND I HOPE THAT I CAN KEEP EVERYONE ENTERTAINED LIKE OUR GOOD FRIEND BIG TIGG!

[QUOTE=MrUnderbridge;1947063]I've been mongering for many years, and following the thread here I decided to get an account at SA. I just use it like a wishbook. Haven't sprung for a paid membership and just like to see what's available.

Imagine my surprise earlier this week when a former student showed up on the sugarbaby list! She's 18 and pretty cute. She said in her ad that she heard about the site from a friend. Scrolling down the list a bit more. Another former student! This one is 19 and thin. From what I know about the 19 yo, she is really likely to put out. Even if I didn't know them, they'd be tempting. But the fact that they were students, and now are legal age and not my responsibility anymore adds some spice to the equation.

So the question before the jury is this: Should I risk it? I use a fake-but-close picture, and not my real name (I'm horny, not stupid!) in my ad, so I could remain anonymous up until time for a meet. The risk is that word could get back to current students, which would be super bad. But then, they would have to explain their side of it, too. Even if I had never met them before, they would be tempting, but the extra thrill really makes me want to at least see where it could go.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]If you are not married, I say go for it!

Also, thanks for the humbling words Bachatas! I'm sure you will do great.

BT.

[QUOTE=MrUnderbridge;1947063]
So the question before the jury is this: Should I risk it? I use a fake-but-close picture, and not my real name (I'm horny, not stupid!) in my ad, so I could remain anonymous up until time for a meet. The risk is that word could get back to current students, which would be super bad. But then, they would have to explain their side of it, too. Even if I had never met them before, they would be tempting, but the extra thrill really makes me want to at least see where it could go.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Keep your indiscretions 100 miles from the flagpole.

Think about it, if it gets back to your current students and you end up losing your job because of it, as a teacher you will never teach again. It's not the same as a guy who is a salesman, he can always find another job. A teacher is a completely different story.

Read through this forum, there are quite a few stories of getting exposed.

[QUOTE=Spitfire;1947519]Keep your indiscretions 100 miles from the flagpole.

Think about it, if it gets back to your current students and you end up losing your job because of it, as a teacher you will never teach again. It's not the same as a guy who is a salesman, he can always find another job. A teacher is a completely different story.

Read through this forum, there are quite a few stories of getting exposed.[/QUOTE]It will certainly get back to your current students, and then to parents and the school. Nothing buy misery lies at the end of this path, in my opinion, and the internet has a long and cruel memory.

Leave it where it is now, safely private in your imagination.

Scott.

[QUOTE=MrUnderbridge;1947063]I've been mongering for many years, and following the thread here I decided to get an account at SA. I just use it like a wishbook. Haven't sprung for a paid membership and just like to see what's available.

Imagine my surprise earlier this week when a former student showed up on the sugarbaby list! She's 18 and pretty cute. She said in her ad that she heard about the site from a friend. Scrolling down the list a bit more. Another former student! This one is 19 and thin. From what I know about the 19 yo, she is really likely to put out. Even if I didn't know them, they'd be tempting. But the fact that they were students, and now are legal age and not my responsibility anymore adds some spice to the equation.

So the question before the jury is this: Should I risk it? I use a fake-but-close picture, and not my real name (I'm horny, not stupid!) in my ad, so I could remain anonymous up until time for a meet. The risk is that word could get back to current students, which would be super bad. But then, they would have to explain their side of it, too. Even if I had never met them before, they would be tempting, but the extra thrill really makes me want to at least see where it could go.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]A good rule of thumb in my experience is if you have to ask it's probably not a good idea. Especially as a teacher you are vulnerable to the gossip in your community. Even if it is legal it is probably borderline unethical. Teachers date former students, fall in love, and marry them. But if it ends badly watch out! There are too many HCBs out there to take a risk on this one .

[QUOTE=MrUnderbridge;1947063]I've been mongering for many years, and following the thread here I decided to get an account at SA. I just use it like a wishbook. Haven't sprung for a paid membership and just like to see what's available.

Imagine my surprise earlier this week when a former student showed up on the sugarbaby list! She's 18 and pretty cute. She said in her ad that she heard about the site from a friend. Scrolling down the list a bit more. Another former student! This one is 19 and thin. From what I know about the 19 yo, she is really likely to put out. Even if I didn't know them, they'd be tempting. But the fact that they were students, and now are legal age and not my responsibility anymore adds some spice to the equation.

So the question before the jury is this: Should I risk it? I use a fake-but-close picture, and not my real name (I'm horny, not stupid!) in my ad, so I could remain anonymous up until time for a meet. The risk is that word could get back to current students, which would be super bad. But then, they would have to explain their side of it, too. Even if I had never met them before, they would be tempting, but the extra thrill really makes me want to at least see where it could go.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]3 Say No.

1 Yes.

...whatcha going to do bowler, step on the bowling lane or head back to the snack bar for another chilli dog?

Ok maybe I'm a glutton for punishment? At the same time, I feel I need to open my self up to criticism and change if I want to improve. So here goes... For me ideally I'll have a 2 SB line up that I have long term weekly meetings with.

I still have my constant SB1. I've been with her for 8 months. She is solid and reliable. A solid 8/8/8/8. I meet with her once per week at 125. Then I give her a gift usually 1 x per month. Out of Pocket is normally avg $700/.

So I'm on the hunt for a new SB2. I just lost my last one right before Thanksgiving. I joined SA about 7 months ago as a free member and didn't activate as I was a SD4 ME member. But I had about 35 winks and emails pile up since then. I paid for SA membership yesterday and sent a reply to all that were in the looks and age range I like. That was 23 of the 35. This is the letter I sent. What do you guys think? Too wimpy? Not straight forward enough? What would you do differently? Feel free to comment or PM...

Hi blank.

I hope you had a great Thanksgiving Holiday!! I wanted to thank you for reaching out to me. I will be putting back up some kind of profile pic. I took mine down because as I was browsing through, I noticed that a local girl that works in a store nearby had just activated a profile. It kind of freaked me out a little bit...haha.

You are a very pretty girl (just my type). I'm sure you've been inundated with all kinds of attention. As you have weeded your way through these you probably got a little creeped out.

I want to assure you I think you'll find I'm different from most. I have the experience and wisdom from not being in my 20's anymore. I've been relatively successful in my career. However, I'm much younger looking and acting than my age. I'm fun and have a good sense of humor. I'm attentive and passionate. I'm also easy going and a good listener. Most of all, I think you'll find I'm a good friend.

I can be quite picky about who I choose to hang out with. I do have some experience at being a SD. I would like to meet you at some point and see if we like each other. Maybe we could meet for drinks or lunch (we'll figure that out)?? I do have a few pics I could send you. I would like to contact you by either call or text. Let me know which you prefer and please send me your cell number. I look forward to hearing from you. Take care my first name.

It is worth noting that I've added a profile pic back in. The story about me taking down my profile pic is true. A girl that works at both a local pharmacy) check out counter) and a local taco joint just joined SA. She knows me well and sees me all the time. While she is very hot and I would love to bang her, that has disaster written all over it. I am married. Also, I've had 4 replies so far. 2 of them are amazingly hot 9.5 to 10 type stuff. I have a M&G scheduled for Monday with one. So far there have been 7 of the 23 that have read the letter.

Hi guys!

Just wondering how you guys like to do your allowance negotiations.

Do you find the prices pretty firm? What kind of things do you say to bring things down to your number?

Do you prefer to give out monthly allowances or weekly?

My friends,

Are any of you lawyers who might feel inclined to give me some insight into this situation with my baby who has had truly nasty shit posted about her, with her real name and photos, on an internet site apparently devoted to spreading this sort of crap. It is the most evil, mean-spirited and pointless site I have ever run across. Its only reason for existing seems to be to delight in gossip, rumors and real hurt to people. It is a harbinger of the End of Days, I am certain.

PM me please, and I will give you more info. This is a baby who does not deserve this, whether the allegations are true or not.

Thanks,

Scott.

I finally had my very first ever M&G. I was getting discouraged after having had three previous women flake out on me.

SB#1: She is a 22 year old SB who has a 3 year old son (I don't know but there is something that is a turn off about a woman with kids, but considering what this lifestyle is all about I guess I need to expect that). We met on SA and we emailed a few times and we finally had our M&G. She was a little thicker than what I normally like but hey beggars can't be choosers. I was actually hopeful that something good would happen as I have been reading posts about some of you out there getting some good action. Long story short, it would be my luck that I meet the one "good girl" SB. She was telling me how she was getting a lot of rude and suggestive emails off of SA and how that isn't her. Don't get me wrong I wasn't expecting to take to her a hotel at our first M&G but it does sound like I am going to have to put a lot of work and effort to get her into my FC. Yep just my luck. HOwever, I did make it clear that we would go on a few dates and if we decided to get "closer" then and only then would we talk about our arrangement. Basically telling her I am not going to give her any type of allowance just to hang out with me. THanks to all of the members on here for the advice. I kept my expectations realistic and after a good first meeting I hope I won't to have to wine and dine her for too long before I can get her into my FC. Happy Hunting everyone and stay safe.

[QUOTE=FScott;1948054]My friends,

Are any of you lawyers who might feel inclined to give me some insight into this situation with my baby who has had truly nasty shit posted about her, with her real name and photos, on an internet site apparently devoted to spreading this sort of crap. It is the most evil, mean-spirited and pointless site I have ever run across. Its only reason for existing seems to be to delight in gossip, rumors and real hurt to people. It is a harbinger of the End of Days, I am certain.

PM me please, and I will give you more info. This is a baby who does not deserve this, whether the allegations are true or not.

Thanks,

Scott.[/QUOTE]Scott, I'm not an attorney but there's few if any attorney's that will take these types of cases.

These sites exist because of freedom of speech. If she knowingly allowed her pics to be taken, they can be posted anywhere as everywhere. There's no invasion or expected privacy with photos, whether nude or not.

Unless she is being extorted, it's not a crime. I believe California is one state where this type of scenario is illegal by statute. However, these sites operate in the virtual world and can be located anywhere.

How is US law going to apply when the site is located on a server in South Africa?

Our legal system can't keep up with advances in technology. I feel bad for your SB, but there's thousands of victims like her without any type of resolution.

Never let anyone take compromising photos of you is the lesson. Not even your SO, as there is no right to privacy if you allowed it willingly.

Yeah, kinda figured that. Right after I hit "upload report".

I had sent a "Hey you're cute, you should be spoiled!" type message, and the 19 yo sent a reply saying that she and "her girl" would loved to be taken shopping this weekend.

D'oh! I don't know if she really knows what's expected (but likely she does), but now visions of a three-way are dancing in my head. They kicked the sugarplums out completely.

I have definitely decided not to have a meet with either. It occurred to me the other day that if she recognized me online it could mean the ends of employment and several other things like house, wife, etc. This one'll have to remain in the vault.

[QUOTE=ThirdCoaster;1948039]Hi guys!

Just wondering how you guys like to do your allowance negotiations.

Do you find the prices pretty firm? What kind of things do you say to bring things down to your number?

Do you prefer to give out monthly allowances or weekly?[/QUOTE]Hey ThirdCoaster. I'm just offering my amateur opinions here.

There's much posted on the allowance amounts. Reading through the different posts, the others are fairly open about what they give / how they give.

There was a post a while back that mentioned negotiating when there's a huge difference in the number will just lead to disappointment because you'll pay more than you wanted and she'll get less than what she wanted.

I'm pretty firm on starting at $/ date and leading with that from the beginning based on Hollywood guy's suggestion. That way if she's suffering from gps then she'll filter herself out. But if she's a looker I've gone to $.5.

So don't really see it as negotiating. Tell her what you'll do and if she's living in fantasy land, then move on to the next.

[QUOTE=Ltnric;1948078]I finally had my very first ever M&G. I was getting discouraged after having had three previous women flake out on me.

SB#1: She is a 22 year old SB who has a 3 year old son (I don't know but there is something that is a turn off about a woman with kids, but considering what this lifestyle is all about I guess I need to expect that). We met on SA and we emailed a few times and we finally had our M&G. She was a little thicker than what I normally like but hey beggars can't be choosers. I was actually hopeful that something good would happen as I have been reading posts about some of you out there getting some good action. Long story short, it would be my luck that I meet the one "good girl" SB. She was telling me how she was getting a lot of rude and suggestive emails off of SA and how that isn't her. Don't get me wrong I wasn't expecting to take to her a hotel at our first M&G but it does sound like I am going to have to put a lot of work and effort to get her into my FC. Yep just my luck. HOwever, I did make it clear that we would go on a few dates and if we decided to get "closer" then and only then would we talk about our arrangement. Basically telling her I am not going to give her any type of allowance just to hang out with me. THanks to all of the members on here for the advice. I kept my expectations realistic and after a good first meeting I hope I won't to have to wine and dine her for too long before I can get her into my FC. Happy Hunting everyone and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Congrats on your first M&G. I hope you didn't make my rookie mistake and spend too much on it. One of the things I learned from this site is to keep it simple for the first meeting.

I understand how she's your SB#1 and wanting to get her into your FC, but I don't know about having to wine and dine her especially when she's a little thicker than what you normally like.

Maybe others will chime in, but I'm thinking maybe just texting / talking to her until she's ready for the FC instead of having to pay for dates after dates?

The bowl will not be the same without you.

You are one of a kind. Not only willing to go out there and do it. Which is different than most of those cold and timid souls.

But you were always there to help. And I appreciate it.

The bowl is better with you in it.

Good luck.

Revvo.

[QUOTE=ThirdCoaster;1948039]Hi guys!

Just wondering how you guys like to do your allowance negotiations.

Do you find the prices pretty firm? What kind of things do you say to bring things down to your number?

Do you prefer to give out monthly allowances or weekly?[/QUOTE]I negotiate every price, the babes will throw out a number just to see what you do. Most will start out with something like $500 per week. Before I accept any number I ask these questions:

1. Can you host or will I need to get a hotel?

2. Do you have a car?

3. Will you travel to me?

4. What are your rules, what can I do and what can't I do? Most then ask "sexually" and I respond "both".

My goal is to pay by the visit so I'm not tied to giving them cash frequently. The number I have in mind is 200 per visit and include the hotel and any travel. So when they say $500 I say "that's way out of my budget." They then come down to $250 every time. I then say I have to get a hotel and factor that in and usually they understand and say, well what can I do? Starting at $100 I slowly move up to $130, because a hotel is $60-70 and parking is $10. I had 2 girls accept the $130,1 took $120 and 1 took $100 just this week. I took one to the FC this week and could of seen another but I wasn't expecting that type of success.

Before I started actively negotiating I accepted a $300 allowance for my main babe, she has her own place and I hang out there all day one day a week. For now it works but I'm going to renegotiate her arrangement soon.

[QUOTE=ThirdCoaster;1948039]Hi guys!

Just wondering how you guys like to do your allowance negotiations.

Do you find the prices pretty firm? What kind of things do you say to bring things down to your number?

Do you prefer to give out monthly allowances or weekly?[/QUOTE]I prefer a per meeting figure, typically around $. It can go higher if she can host or if she lives close but not more than $.5. Negotiations must occur before the first FC, usually at the M&G. The big head must do the negotiations. Just stand firm, be polite and friendly. My budget is $. Many will want more, especially the pros and experienced SBs. I've also had better long term arrangements with those who initially agreed and appreciated my initial $ meeting amount. Unlike others on the board, I've yet to find someone I felt comfortable paying a monthly allowance. If I did, it would be a multiple per meeting amount rounded to my favor.

If anyone has hung out with Felicity, can you please PM me? I'm about to take the plunge and I want to feel comfortable more quickly. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Ltnric;1937346]Ok, as you can tell I am a senior member but I've been more of an escort and massage person. Today I took my first step into the world of SD / SB and I joined SA. I am looking for some guidance.

Before anyone asks yes I did my home work. I looked on google and read blogs and other websites. Let me know if you know of any other good sites to read. I also found a SB on SA and I did look up her pic on Tineye just to make sure it was not a fake ad. Tineye came up empty. I also tried to look for her name on this forum but honestly I don't know to look up shit on this website.

So here is my current situation.

I am getting a lot emails from [URL]SA.com[/URL] and am thinking of meeting a girl named Felicity. She is white, 22 and lives in Midlothian. She has a husband which is kind of weird.

1. Should I get involved with a SB that is married? Or is he her pimp? Honestly, this arrangement is more like an escort arrangement but I am good with that.

2. Has anyone ever heard of Felicity. I have her SA I'd if anyone is interested.

Sorry for sounding like a noob but I am one when it comes to SD / SB. Thanks everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Showtime2020;1948374]I negotiate every price, the babes will throw out a number just to see what you do. Most will start out with something like $500 per week. Before I accept any number I ask these questions:

1. Can you host or will I need to get a hotel?

2. Do you have a car?

3. Will you travel to me?

4. What are your rules, what can I do and what can't I do? Most then ask "sexually" and I respond "both".

My goal is to pay by the visit so I'm not tied to giving them cash frequently. The number I have in mind is 200 per visit and include the hotel and any travel. So when they say $500 I say "that's way out of my budget." They then come down to $250 every time. I then say I have to get a hotel and factor that in and usually they understand and say, well what can I do? Starting at $100 I slowly move up to $130, because a hotel is $60-70 and parking is $10. I had 2 girls accept the $130,1 took $120 and 1 took $100 just this week. I took one to the FC this week and could of seen another but I wasn't expecting that type of success.

Before I started actively negotiating I accepted a $300 allowance for my main babe, she has her own place and I hang out there all day one day a week. For now it works but I'm going to renegotiate her arrangement soon.[/QUOTE]I hate doing it. Getting rooms. But if the total damage is $$ including everything. You have to consider that fair.

[QUOTE=StickyRice;1948112]Scott, I'm not an attorney but there's few if any attorney's that will take these types of cases.

These sites exist because of freedom of speech. If she knowingly allowed her pics to be taken, they can be posted anywhere as everywhere. There's no invasion or expected privacy with photos, whether nude or not.

Unless she is being extorted, it's not a crime. I believe California is one state where this type of scenario is illegal by statute. However, these sites operate in the virtual world and can be located anywhere.

How is US law going to apply when the site is located on a server in South Africa?

Our legal system can't keep up with advances in technology. I feel bad for your SB, but there's thousands of victims like her without any type of resolution.

Never let anyone take compromising photos of you is the lesson. Not even your SO, as there is no right to privacy if you allowed it willingly.[/QUOTE]On the other hand let us not overestimate the true impact of the posts on your sugar baby.

Three years ago, my Doctor found a 25 year old girl dead in her home (status of his relationship with the girl was not revealed). He lawyered up the next day. 5-0 searched his home and office. Ultimately plead guilty to obstruction of justice. This was all over the news and you can google his name and find numerous articles about the case. This was a case that involved the death of another human being and a guilty plea to a criminal charge. He is still practicing.

My advice. Tell your SB not to expend needless energy worrying about it. Everyone has a bad day. Nothing is forever except death and taxes.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1948907]Nothing is forever except death and taxes.[/QUOTE]And available smoking hot pussy. LOL.