Massage Parlor Reports

I have no problem with being quoted and she is free to interpret it however she wants so long as the full context was understood. That sentence quoted by itself could be taken to mean that I don't tolerate women who are professionally driven, unconventional, gay, or even just liberal. That is not the case at all. I just don't want one of those women as my most trusted and intimate partner in life; what would we have in common?

I don't know anything about the writer, but let's assume that her writing is in defense of orientation or some kind of 'unconventional' lifestlye. She rightly doesn't want to be treated differently or marginalized. Why would my personal desire for a more conventional be any more wrong?

The other part of my post which may not have been clear is that in my experience, which is far from empirical, a lot of women in the DC area are just not very nice. I don't enjoy being berated or taken for granted.

The bottom line is that it seems that this writer is taking select quotes in order to create impressions that might be prejudicial which is not helped by the fact that they are solely sourced from this site. But she has limited space to post her articles, and after all she is free to have her forum as we do ours.

I just say live and let live. Responding with vitriol in our posts and comments to her will not be constructive. Disagree all you want, but show a little courtesy if you want your point to be considered.

Edit: So I went and found the article that was posted by Ms. Hess. First, she didn't name me by handle or attempt to 'out' me, so for that she has some credibility and sense of ethics as well as my thanks. However she asserts that I am looking for a foreign woman who is alienated from American culture. While that could be possible be inferred in reality it just isn't true, and the images that can conjure about are definitely inflammatory and prejudicial. I don't hate American women, and I don't need a submissive village girl. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. If you've ever been to Colombia it would be apparent; they can be the most cosmopolitan as well as loving and loyal women in a relationship but are also quite assertive and they certainly don't take any shit or abide any unfaithfulness in their men. They offer equal respect in kind. That is what I would like, not some kind of unliberated or uneducated girl from some remote village as she suggests.

From what little I have read though I think the writer seems to at least be reporting as honestly and ethically in so much as her own beliefs will allow.

I have never been to Sky Spa, or any other DC AMP for that matter. If I had and suspected that any woman was in any way forced to work or do something against her will I would be one of the first calling in a complaint to the police. So how I got linked into this story as an 'upset john' over Sky's closing is beyond me.

Hey Guys, a repost from the strip club forum (doesn't seem to be many readers there at the moment!)

Nikki at Archibalds.

G'Day all,

I've been off this site for a while, spending time on ISG as I have moved back to Oz. I've been keeping tabs on the AMP and Club scene, looks like some things have changed, not all for the best. Most of the reports from the old sites don't sound like they are as much fun any more, and Leo seems to be as active as ever.

However, I have a favour to ask of my mongering friends in DC.

Has anyone met Nikki at Archibalds? Is she the same asian girl that worked at Camelot a few years back? We got along well, but have lost touch, so I would be grateful if anyone can give me an update.

Stay safe, happy mongering, if you're in Oz sometime look me up on ISG,

Cheers,

Ozmong

[QUOTE=Too Jaded;1156787]I have never been to Sky Spa, or any other DC AMP for that matter. If I had and suspected that any woman was in any way forced to work or do something against her will I would be one of the first calling in a complaint to the police. So how I got linked into this story as an 'upset john' over Sky's closing is beyond me.[/QUOTE]She also quoted me in the article and it doesn't mean anything. Whatever she is trying to do is probably well intentioned if off the mark. She is (it seems) wanting to help enforce the current laws and turn public opinion to fit her campaign to do so.

No big deal and I will not think more of her.

What we forget at times is that what we post here is carved in stone and can not be removed from the internet even if our friend Jackson deletes an entry from the forum. Also. With the right tools and skills every one of our posts can be traced back to the actual machine we use to make them. Our comments here are not made in a locked room in the middle of the night. Rather it is more like standing on the street corner at noon shouting them across the crowds.

If Ms Hess is being mean spirited in her efforts I surely hope she fails but if her intentions are truly good then she is welcome to continue. I just hope she gets an education into the way things really are first.

It is called "Freedom of the press" and can be a real pain in the ass at times.

JJ

[i]Married men on the board, I exempt you due to your circumstances. [/i]

But, if you are single and stay quiet about your hobbying you are doing no one a favor.
Many of you act as if you think you are doing something wrong when buying commercial sex.
I assure you otherwise. Don't believe me listen to Mr. Alan Dershowitz.
[url]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88104105[/url]

I guess the puritan ethic takes long to get out of the system.
If we had any backbone we would have places like this in DC
[url]http://stiletto-brothel.com.au/sydney/[/url]

[u]True story:[/u]

I have a friend, in his 50s, good looking, makes good money, divorced, a little overweight. Known for dating skanks. His last girlfriend (he finds them on dating sites) almost made my stomach turn, they broke up in time. Now what is the difference between looking on dating sites to get laid or going to a spa? At the spa you are guaranteed quality and product.

I went to his house recently, the conversation went to women that we knew. What do you think of her, and what about that one. He has always been confused at how unimpressed I am with the women around us.

I explain to him:

If I wanted to date a man I would go ahead and become a homosexual. There is no need for me to date a woman who acts and looks like a man, but is less loyal and interesting.

Remember, the women you enjoy at the spa, no matter how much you complain about them, are a hundred times more pleasurable to be with than what most men settle for.

At this point I explain to him how I get down, in detail. His jaw drops, I look him dead in his eyes and explain to him "those women most men cupcake for, I get 10 times better on the regular." He tells me he wants me to take him next time I go. That weekend I take him to my favorite spot (but not to my favorite girl).

I show up at the door (mama knows me well) , she is shocked that I show up with another male (I guess this is very uncommon). Regardless, I choose his partner for him by name and pay his fees. The experience turns this older man into a little boy, like a rook he was done long before time up. Had to wait on me as I was in no rush. His whole perspective has been shaken, I can already see the difference in him and it is a big improvement.

[u]Moral of the story:[/u]

Your silence is hurting others, and possibly yourself. It is always moral to pay grown women generously for commercial sex (while treating them with respect) , actually it is the most natural thing in the world. Stop feeling guilty. If you have a woman in your life that is more trouble than necessary, well nix the *****.

Remember, there is only one reason why we are persecuted. It is because they are simply jealous that some of us continue to have fun!

I had a brief interaction with Amanda Hess. She tows the politically-correct line in thinking that "massage parlors" = "human trafficking". The underlying (incorrect) assumption is that no woman would sell sexual services without being forced. It's a peculiarly American viewpoint.

I challenged her to find anything useful / relevant on google about "human trafficking", and she responded stupidly. But she didn't actually read any of the links, that was painfully obvious.

Here's what you should keep in mind: the media controls the media. If the author of a story has a viewpoint, you can be assured that the author will pick and choose citations in support of that viewpoint. You are helpless against that. Your contributions will be edited and you WILL be quoted out of context. Guaranteed.

For example, here's a typical massage parlor bust story, as it appears in the media:

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Police in so-and-so jurisdiction busted XYZ massage parlor and arrested X people. Jane Doe #1 (age 45) , Jane Doe #2 (age 37) , and Jane Doe #3 (age 35) were arrested for solicitation.

Jimmy Bob from the Prostitution Is Bad International Human Rights Organization said "Thank God another massage parlor has been shut down. So many teenagers are forced into this work, it makes my heart bleed". He went on to state that many massage parlors are "fronts" for forced prostitution.

[insert heart-breaking irrelevant story about teenager here]

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Me again. So you see, in the public's mind,"massage parlor" = "human trafficking". No one reads these things with a critical eye, they just say "cluck-cluck, glad those bastards got busted" and turn the page, or click the next link, or whatever.

Remember, the media is a business and they need to get readers and make a profit. They are far more interested in selling their stuff than revealing the "truth".

Disclaimer: I know human trafficking occurs. I've seen it. But massage parlors (usually) aren't it.

[QUOTE=Max Beelyun; 1158018]Remember, the media is a business and they need to get readers and make a profit. They are far more interested in selling their stuff than revealing the "truth".

Disclaimer: I know human trafficking occurs. I've seen it. But massage parlors (usually) aren't it. [/QUOTE]They have jumped on this trafficking thing big time. Their videos show white men buying Asian teenagers from taxis for $6. This white man keeps her locked in a hotel room and sets up a website to sell her. This is so far from the truth.

The problem is, the time for silence is over. We can no longer afford to put all the brunt on the women we enjoy. At some point we are going to have to stand up for them.

Once they see who we are and who our women are all of their lies will come crashing down!

FROM NOW ON I WILL LEAVE YOU ALL WITH EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE COULD HAVE IF WE HAD ANY BALLS!

[url]http://www.sherisranch.com/[/url]

I am visiting DC and I visited a nice, clean place today near McPherson Square. The overall experience was nice and I will repeat before I leave. I will not mention or give out the name of the place or the lovely lady for all those who do know about because it appears to be the last one around. I walked my ass off going to M street, Conn, and many more and this was the only one I saw open. Gents, who like this type recreational activity, enjoy.

You neglected to mention what myself and plenty of other people know about this joint. . . No FS, just the NoVA finish.

I confirmed this today after a BP girl stood me up and I knew my other options in the area (except maybe heading over to Shell Green, but there are only reports they're open) were nixed. I still had a good time, but it's not what I wanted, and was hoping it had changed.

That said, thanks for the reminder, because my other options on short notice were a train ride to another neighborhood on a gamble, or finally checking out Lisa and her teeth (ok, I'd have enjoyed that too, but this was softer).

[QUOTE=Toadman2;1158980]I am visiting DC and I visited a nice, clean place today near McPherson Square. The overall experience was nice and I will repeat before I leave. I will not mention or give out the name of the place or the lovely lady for all those who do know about because it appears to be the last one around. I walked my ass off going to M street, Conn, and many more and this was the only one I saw open. Gents, who like this type recreational activity, enjoy.[/QUOTE]

Hi all.

I'll be spending a week in DC in mid-April, and am looking for some HE-only-but-not-FS type of place. Any suggestions? Send me a PM, please!

Thanks

[QUOTE=Danielp; 1166285]Hi all.

I'll be spending a week in DC in mid-April, and am looking for some HE-only-but-not-FS type of place. Any suggestions? Send me a PM, please!

Thanks[/QUOTE]Look in the NoVa forums for standard NoVa finish. DC was mostly FS and is mostly shut down.

Hey, I was at dc and posted some of my experiences before and my mistakes as a first timer! LOL. But I have since remedied everything.

With that said, I am headed back and was wondering if any spots are still open like mist and sky, etc?

I have read many posts here that things are shut down in DC. If anyone can school me on what is going on in dc that Is still running cause there HAS to be some game still left in town, please pm and let me know.

Or is mist still jumpin? Damn, I really liked mist. LOL

I am familiar with the old system and have not figured out how to search a particular thread such massage parlor reports. Can someone who is computer literate than me give me some guidance. Thanks for your help.

Ok, we know that the morality police have taken Sky, Mist and Jasmine from us right.

No big deal, we just need to innovate.

I know great spas in DC that are working under capacity right now, which means they need you! Stressful day, these places will make it all better.

I have been PMing members, and most people seem to not know these places are open for business.

[u]INSTRUCTIONS:[/u]

If you are a Senior Member with valuable and informative posts please PM me for details.

If you are member who has added no value to this site your PM will be ignored.

When I surrender information to you, I advise you not to post on the locations surrendered; If you do these locations will be targeted.



Also as a side, I read today that a new SUPER brothel is opening in New Zealand. Any hobbyist heading down under should definitely check this place out!
[url]http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/super-brothel-gets-neighbours-hot-under-collar-4099931[/url]

Good article by Amanda on March 11, 2011. Presented a well balanced article this time around, so props to her for listening.

Unfortunately, will probably be the last of the articles as the places are all pretty much closed or will be soon.

The venues are pretty much closed or not worth it. Just like everything in the US, its being outsourced overseas. Amsterdam is just six hours away, take the midnight flight from Dulles. 15 minute train ride to the Red Light District. Leave Friday night, come back Sunday. Probably cheaper, too.

A lesson in politics, once you succeed-then what do you do next? You've just worked yourself out of a job.

TTYL Fellow Mongers

I am a longtime lurker. Some of you may know me from other boards. I have been on a long "tour" of all the places in NOVA and will report on each starting with Eva.

Middle of the week visit in office park in Manassas. A lot of businesses around the office park look shuttered, so its pretty discreet location.

Drew Diane, Tall 40-ish 40dd, not the most pleasant face. TS with plenty of roaming. Massage pretty thorough. Roaming invited throughout. On the flip, lifted top and showed two behemoths that were damn near perfect for her age! Roaming top, bottom, inside & out. Nova finish.

8 door. 8 tip.

7 appearance / 8 service

Need some joy in my life so I decided to *Smile *

Sue came to the door. 30's, skinny,"see's" and really pretty face. I got there early and she was mms and working (9:50am). .6 entry.

TS was thorough and rough with a scrubbing everywhere. Massage was the best ever! She backwalked me and cracked every vertebrae in my back. It was actually pretty painful. At moments I wanted her to stop. There is a mirror on the far wall that allows you to see her tiny cute body jumping up and down on your seemingly fragile frame as she tortures you.

On the flip, she allowed roaming and suckling. I asked for FS and she said they fired girls for providing too many extras. But she did go all out to make my visit fun by fully disrobing and allowing roaming inside & out. 1.0 tip for the champion level effort. She is my ATF, YMMV.

Got bored with the NOVA scene because it seemed really bleak in the past month to two months. I decided to drive out west to Front Royal.

First. This place is hard as hell to find. It is an old colonial house on one of the main streets in town. Parking is in the rear. I got out there and there were a few cars in the parking area so I thought they must have a few providers. I was wrong. Came to the door and said "come back 30-mins." So I went to Wal-Mart and walked around for while because I was not going to waste that tw0-hour drive.

When I returned invited in by a short 40-50ish korean woman. She took me to a room with a bed and told me to relax. I started to undress. Wrong! It was just for me to hang out until I went into the massage room. This place is literally an old house and the woman who led me in was not my provider.

I was escorted to another room with a massage table and a fireplace. Late 30's provider, short korean with a pudge. Nice massage and a lot of talking. No TS. Thought it was going to be a waste of time. On the flip Nova Finish and roaming invited. Not the best service but not rushed and it felt like a familiar visit with a friendly provider. Not worth the drive except for the fact that it was comforting and inviting atmosphere.

80. 60-tip 6appearance / 6service

Another site has given this location some pretty decent reviews the last few months so finally, when I had the day off, decided to drive into town and see for myself.

Facility was fairly easy to find, right off of Wisconsin. Went inside, said Hello, to the birds, and was greeted by a very tall, thin and pretty (Ethiopian I think?) gal. I didn't get her name, but found her to be supremely lovely and charming.

As others have noted, facility is a bit run-down but satisfactory. No TS. Just a normal shower setup which I took advantage of.

Back to the room, face down and was treated to a very nice and relaxing massage. Lots of lotion but didn't feel oily at all as she rubbed it into my legs and back. During the session, lots of pleasant chit-chat from start of massage to finish. As we like to say in NOVA, standard finish but very nicely done. There was a mirror mounted on the wall. As strange as this may seem, it seemed I found myself watching her do the job moreso on the mirror. Funny.

While not the best massage in the world, I enjoyed it very much and enjoyed going somewhere new as well as having an attendant that was not Asian (first time in almost 10 years). In fact, on the way out, she introduced me to some of the other ladies that work there (both Caucasian and rather tough looking in my opinion). If I go back (and I believe I will) , I'll stick with the same provider.

OK. Got 2 reports for the same place. This place will not be named in case of whoever is lurking so you won't know where this place is at but hey, that's just the way it's going to go.

First visit.

The woman I pull is old as hell. (when I say old, I mean between 40-50). I like them in thier 20s and early 30s. Anyways, she still looked decent so I went ahead. Face was pretty, body was thin but not skinny and B cups. TS was pretty good. There was really no real massage, just a really really soft massage. Then flip and got FS. Experience was great and I left very happy. Her attitude was good.

Second visit.

This is where things go wonky. I planned on going to JHH in maryland to try that out but instead decided to go back to this place since my first experience was good, and figured, the odds are better if the first experience went well. Now I am wishing I went with my gut originally to try a different spot.

So I get back to this place and the SAME chick greets me and I ask if I can try someone different cause I like variety. She is cool with it. She gets someone else. This time the chick looks like late 20s and early 30s. I think perfect. Face is cute, and body is good with B cups. This is where things slowly god down hill. Hit her with the fee for the massage and I get ready for TS. TS is like any other TS but the whole time I get this wierd vibe from this girl like she has a shitty attitude that she is trying to cover up but you can still sense / read it. Then she goes to dry me up. Kinda half asses it. We get back to the room and I end up having to dry myself up a little more while she left. When she comes back she starts the massage. Massage is painful and not that good. She asks if it feels ok and I obviously say yea cause I'm a man but I swear it felt like she was trying to hurt me. She was putting her whole body into some of those thumb presses. During this process I ask about the FS. She said how much. I offer the standard obviously. She asks for more. I told her I don't have more. We settle on that price. After the massage she asks for the money before everything else. I give it to her. She then asks for more again even tho we settled on a price and I'm thinking what? And then she gives me this look as if I'm cheap. Number 1. We didn't even finish yet, but she wants me to tip extra on service I haven't even been given? Her whole attitude was just shitty the whole time basically (from ts to finish). It really turned me off from the whole experience. I literally struggle to get a nut off because of her attitude. I eventually lose my "Will" (if you know what I mean) for a bit and she is like "maybe not today" and I'm thinking,"no maybe you need to not be a ***** and stop making me feel weird about all of this." I ask her to give me 5 minutes so I can gather my thoughts and she is hesitant but then she agrees. She leaves and then comes back in literally like 1 minute and keeps saying maybe not today come back again etc. And I'm like no, let me try. So I get it back by focusing on someone else and I get the nut off. Mind you its been like 45 minutes total, not the whole hour so its not like I was going past the time limit. As I'm getting dressed its like she wants me to hurry up. She is standing by the door with her hand on the knob with the door cracked open peaking out of it and then looking back at me then peaking back out. So I'm trying to put my clothes on faster to oblige this chick. Then she just ups and walks out and I'm thinking damn I can't put this stuff on any faster. She comes right back and is staring at me with the door like half open waiting and then I finally get my shoes on and She walks me out. I feel like I wasted my money. I didn't leave the way I left all my other experiences at an AMP. I wasn't happy, but I wasn't upset. I just felt like "man, whatever" after I left. I don't like it. I felt GREAT after leaving the first time. This time I felt like it would have been better to have that money in my pocket still. And it slowly ate at me more and more over time to where I'm laying in bed trying to sleep and I can't stop thinking about how annoyed I am now about the whole situation to where instead of me posting my reports tomorrow, I had to get it off my chest now. Honestly, The experience kinda turned me off from AMPs in general and I feel like just not even bothering. With that said.

That experience really made me appreciate Mist and Sky more for the attitudes the girls had at those places. I mean, attitude is huge difference, in fact, it's a game changer. Even the chick I messed up with my first time at mist had a attitude 100 times better than this chick (after I made it right with her of course). Damn I wish Mist and Sky were still going.

Anyways. Those are my honest reports and how I felt about them, hopefully I didn't piss anyone off here.

Located in Warrenton VA. Anybody been? I have driven by a few times late at night and it seems to be opne. Good sign?

This place that you speak of, you never gave a location, sir.

[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv;1173311]This place that you speak of, you never gave a location, sir.[/QUOTE]And I stated why.

Perhaps you could PM him for the location.

We are trying to leave fewer details until DC fully recovers.

[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv;1173311]This place that you speak of, you never gave a location, sir.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blowtorch;1173299]Located in Warrenton VA. Anybody been? I have driven by a few times late at night and it seems to be opne. Good sign?[/QUOTE]I went out there when it first opened, then about a month later. Its standard NOVA fare, but ok. There is a mattress on the floor (or there was both times I went). Thought to myelf that I was in for a great time. Not so much! It was not part of either session.

BTW, if you have any pet peaves.

Its on the 2nd floor behind a restaurant. There is an elevator that takes you up to their front door. Its kind of an awkward setup. Then there is a lot of space between the door and the floor you can see feet walking by. No carpeting from what I remember. Its pretty clinical setting ecept the mattress

With all the closings in DC, is Vermont still open?

So my brother and I lived in dc for a while and left, but now were coming back and we want to try this thing out so where are to good spots at in dc or northern VA. And what do all these acronyms mean. Please hook me up.

My first time at H&H. I like the offbeat vibe of the place, birdcage in front, frumpy furnishings, old woman in charge who said,"We have an unannounced guest." I was introduced to Linda, a Latina, and a Caucasian woman (the Ethiopian attendant had left for the day). I chose Linda, who I found quite attractive. Dark hair and eyes, pretty face, in her 30s, nice bee cups. Since it was our first meeting she was a bit reticent, which led to a lukewarm session. She started the shower and then left to change into a dress. I had to wait a bit before she returned to start the massage. She used unscented oils, a light touch, slow pace. The best part was when she massaged my feet. She applied more pressure there. Overall the massage was uninspired. Standard NOVA on the flip, then a heated towel, and another trip to the shower.

I'll visit earlier next time and will try the attendant Whahooboy94 describes in his post.

[QUOTE=MrWhatever; 1173165]So I get back to this place and the SAME chick greets me and I ask if I can try someone different cause I like variety. She is cool with it. She gets someone else. This time the chick looks like late 20s and early 30s. I think perfect. Face is cute, and body is good with B cups. This is where things slowly god down hill. Hit her with the fee for the massage and I get ready for TS. TS is like any other TS but the whole time I get this wierd vibe from this girl like she has a shitty attitude that she is trying to cover up but you can still sense / read it. Then she goes to dry me up. Kinda half asses it. We get back to the room and I end up having to dry myself up a little more while she left. When she comes back she starts the massage. Massage is painful and not that good. She asks if it feels ok and I obviously say yea cause I'm a man but I swear it felt like she was trying to hurt me. She was putting her whole body into some of those thumb presses. During this process I ask about the FS. She said how much. I offer the standard obviously. She asks for more. I told her I don't have more. We settle on that price. After the massage she asks for the money before everything else. I give it to her. She then asks for more again even tho we settled on a price and I'm thinking what? And then she gives me this look as if I'm cheap. Number 1. We didn't even finish yet, but she wants me to tip extra on service I haven't even been given? Her whole attitude was just shitty the whole time basically (from ts to finish). It really turned me off from the whole experience. I literally struggle to get a nut off because of her attitude. I eventually lose my "Will" (if you know what I mean) for a bit and she is like "maybe not today" and I'm thinking,"no maybe you need to not be a * and stop making me feel weird about all of this." I ask her to give me 5 minutes so I can gather my thoughts and she is hesitant but then she agrees. She leaves and then comes back in literally like 1 minute and keeps saying maybe not today come back again etc. And I'm like no, let me try. So I get it back by focusing on someone else and I get the nut off. Mind you its been like 45 minutes total, not the whole hour so its not like I was going past the time limit. As I'm getting dressed its like she wants me to hurry up. She is standing by the door with her hand on the knob with the door cracked open peaking out of it and then looking back at me then peaking back out. So I'm trying to put my clothes on faster to oblige this chick. Then she just ups and walks out and I'm thinking damn I can't put this stuff on any faster. She comes right back and is staring at me with the door like half open waiting and then I finally get my shoes on and She walks me out. I feel like I wasted my money. I didn't leave the way I left all my other experiences at an AMP. I wasn't happy, but I wasn't upset. I just felt like "man, whatever" after I left. I don't like it. I felt GREAT after leaving the first time. This time I felt like it would have been better to have that money in my pocket still. And it slowly ate at me more and more over time to where I'm laying in bed trying to sleep and I can't stop thinking about how annoyed I am now about the whole situation to where instead of me posting my reports tomorrow, I had to get it off my chest now. Honestly, The experience kinda turned me off from AMPs in general and I feel like just not even bothering. With that said.

That experience really made me appreciate Mist and Sky more for the attitudes the girls had at those places. I mean, attitude is huge difference, in fact, it's a game changer. Even the chick I messed up with my first time at mist had a attitude 100 times better than this chick (after I made it right with her of course). Damn I wish Mist and Sky were still going.

Anyways. Those are my honest reports and how I felt about them, hopefully I didn't piss anyone off here.[/QUOTE]This is a common mistake among us as men. We are taught from small to be nice to women, no matter what, and this provider knows it, and used it to her advantage thus still being paid in full for sloppy service. The only reason she kept up with shitty attitude was because you didn't put her in her place from when you first sensed it. I'm sure she probably gets away with this all the time; again, most guys will try to accommodate her mood, as opposed to being up front. What we as mongers need to understand is that this is not your typical day to day male-female interaction, where we have to put up with a woman's attitude. They are providing a service. And just like any retail based business, it's all about the customer. You should have politely told her that you didn't come here and pay her your hard earned money to acquire more stress, but rather to alleviate it, and if that's a problem, you want to see another provider, or talk to who's in charge.

Again, your not on a date where we have to go along with the womans attitude, in hopes of getting what we want out of the situation. It's her job to accommodate 'you'.

I know that people don't posts the names or the address of these places but I need to know. Prices would also be good I just need to know.

[QUOTE=Oppen; 1178219]My first time at H&H. I like the offbeat vibe of the place, birdcage in front, frumpy furnishings, old woman in charge who said,"We have an unannounced guest." I was introduced to Linda, a Latina, and a Caucasian woman (the Ethiopian attendant had left for the day). I chose Linda, who I found quite attractive. Dark hair and eyes, pretty face, in her 30s, nice bee cups. Since it was our first meeting she was a bit reticent, which led to a lukewarm session. She started the shower and then left to change into a dress. I had to wait a bit before she returned to start the massage. She used unscented oils, a light touch, slow pace. The best part was when she massaged my feet. She applied more pressure there. Overall the massage was uninspired. Standard NOVA on the flip, then a heated towel, and another trip to the shower.

I'll visit earlier next time and will try the attendant Whahooboy94 describes in his post.[/QUOTE]I think you missed the hints. The "old woman in charge" is the owner, and she prefers appointments to unannounced guests. So I would suggest calling ahead next time instead of just dropping in.

[QUOTE=Eerock;1178891]I think you missed the hints. The "old woman in charge" is the owner, and she prefers appointments to unannounced guests. So I would suggest calling ahead next time instead of just dropping in.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're right. I'll do that next time.

[QUOTE=Kenji Roma;1178550]I know that people don't posts the names or the address of these places but I need to know. Prices would also be good I just need to know.[/QUOTE]That's funny, there's a high school kid with your name on Facebook.

[QUOTE=Dr Bombay;1179192]That's funny, there's a high school kid with your name on Facebook.[/QUOTE]I'm the original though!

[QUOTE=Kenji Roma;1176811]So my brother and I lived in dc for a while and left, but now were coming back and we want to try this thing out so where are to good spots at in dc or northern VA. And what do all these acronyms mean. Please hook me up.[/QUOTE]Some of the good spots in DC include (a) the top of the Washington Monument, (be) the Lincoln Memorial and Reflecting Pool, (see) the Smithsonian Museums, (the) the National Archives, and (the) Arlington National Cemetery (in VA). Try them out; you'll find them fascinating and educational.

Seriously, though, the currency of this hobby is information. Such information is gained through experience, the expenditure of one's time, and the exchange of your hard-earned cash for those experiences. Not much of this board's members' infomation came to them gratis. They went out and obtained it.

Imagine if you were to go up to a total stranger on the street and ask him to give you, say, $20 or so. That person would likely tell you to take a hike or give you a much ruder response. You should view asking for info in the same light, at least until you've built up your credibility and shown that you've contributed something to the forum. Right now, you've only got 3 posts to your credit, and none of them contain actionable intel.

Now, in spite of all this, many folks who read this forum have been so generous as to post, free of charge, reports of their personal experiences. It's all there, for anyone to read. You just have to expend some of your own time and energy in reading them; then, you'll know where some of the "good spots" in DC and Virginia are located. But NO ONE is going to deliver it to you on a silver platter. If you and your brother want to "try this thing," you need to get off your@$$ and do some minimal work. Once you do so, and then start sharing some of your experiences, you'll start receiving some quality info from other members.

Got it? It's really quite simple. Now, go forth and report back.

RR

After a very long hiatus, I happened to be downtown today at Dupont Circle. Having time and cash, I checked:

Asian Mist aka Dupont Therapy (formerly Supra) : Closed, with note on the door and red evidence tape sealing the door.

The Green Door (the other 1333) : I didn't linger due to some shady characters nearby, but I didn't see a bell to ring, so I'm guessing this one is closed.

14K. I knew this was probably still closed, but I was nearby. And they even covered it with a decontamination tent.

I'm sure this isn't news to those who frequent DC more often than I. I went back a few pages on this forum and didn't see anything either. I miss 2004.

Can anyone PM me with any places in DC that are still open? I was also curious about Lisa at the finger care place.

Guess I'll head to the condo tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Max Beelyun; 1180963]After a very long hiatus, I happened to be downtown today at Dupont Circle. Having time and cash, I checked:

Asian Mist aka Dupont Therapy (formerly Supra) : Closed, with note on the door and red evidence tape sealing the door.

The Green Door (the other 1333) : I didn't linger due to some shady characters nearby, but I didn't see a bell to ring, so I'm guessing this one is closed.

14K. I knew this was probably still closed, but I was nearby. And they even covered it with a decontamination tent.

I'm sure this isn't news to those who frequent DC more often than I. I went back a few pages on this forum and didn't see anything either. I miss 2004.

Can anyone PM me with any places in DC that are still open? I was also curious about Lisa at the finger care place.

Guess I'll head to the condo tomorrow. [/QUOTE]It is all over but the shouting. One or two spots may be open still, you will have to research to find them, if they are. The glory days are over, and yes, they sure were glory days.

Ginza, Downtown, Supra, Royal, Happiness, Star, and more. All gone, along with my money. Good times were had, though.

I've finally recovered from my terrible prior experience and thinking it's time to get back out there. I'll be heading through the woodbridge / fringe NOVA area and was going to give the title a try, but I can't tell if they'll provide the services I'm hoping for. Does anyone have any experience?

Hi,

Does anyone know the one on Columbia Road?

Is DC stile or Nova standard?

And also are all the VA ones NOVA standard?

Thanks

Here is how it goes. If you have one, two, or three posts only in your history, you will not be given much. Too much history here, much of it dangerous. Read The Fucking Forum. Take a few hours. Figure things out.

Go somewhere and then post about your experiences in a way that helps others.

Geez, you would think the police academy would offer better training.