YMMV over time with providers
[QUOTE=Niceguy808;2239204]I'm wondering how common this issue might be:
I've noticed a recurring problem over the years that I've been in the Hobby. Often, when I see a provider for the very first time. And I mean a top-rated provider who seems to currently be all the rage on the forums that week or month. My first time with her would be amazing, absolutely amazing. I would be so impressed with her that I'd make it a point to see her again and even become a regular, if time and finances allow.
The second appointment would still be good, but not as good as the first time. The third time would show a marked decline in service quality where she's obviously not putting in the same effort as the first or even the second.
If I see her again on a fourth or fifth time, the service is really getting rather bland. It might still be good, but I might be getting short-timed or rushed to make way for the next guy that day / night.
It's become almost an expected development for me. The first or second time is often way better that sessions afterwards and I started to feel taken for granted, as if she doesn't have to work so hard for me anymore.
I've usually responded by just stopping after the third try and moving on, hoping that a return will result in first time quality again. Sometimes that happens, but not always.
Playing the field doesn't fit my nature, I guess, and I suppose some providers realize this and assume that I'll be back sooner or later.
Any advice?[/QUOTE]For the most part, much of what you say is true in a very general way. I've had a few (very few) girls that seem to tapper off in "quality" of service. But I have always attributed that to a burn out factor of the job itself, not so much "our" relationship. This is especially true for relatively new girls to business or to being here in Hawaii. Perfect example is the blonde "Julie" who started at P10 and would leave to return to Vegas every few weeks. She was a new girl who had stellar "gee whiz" attitude with every session. After awhile, it was a job and I know she was busy and in demand by many (senior mongers here will know who I am speaking about). As George Costanza would say, "it ain't you, it's me!" That is, the provider speaking. Julie turned into the proverbial DEAD FISH. Too bad for us. She was porn star quality. She disappeared and came back to Hawaii a few years later, showed up in a few AMPs and even tried solo biz. She NEVER got her groove back and long since disappeared.
After fucking 4 or 5 times a night (maybe twice that many if you add a few days into mix, too), and do that for a few weeks, it's time for a break. I suggest you reconsider the time frame you are talking about with your selected provider. Do you know if she has taken a vacay at all?? Chat her up and ask.
I've been seeing one girl exclusively these last several months. Mostly out of safety and security issues than anything else. She's a hot fuck! Every. Single. Time. I love it. As best I can tell she does too. I have no reason to think she has tired of me (uh, yet). I probably see her about every other month, due to schedule and funds. But it works for me. If I could afford to, I'd see her about once a week or ten days. But From past experiences, I know eventually I'll burn out on her too. That's what this hobby is all about. Finding new and exciting pussy, its as simple as that. If you wanted to fuck one pussy, no matter how fucking great it was, you'd get married. Eventually, you'd get tired of that too. I promise you. Ask other SR mongers here.
My favorite go to gal split to the mainland once and was gone for a few weeks. Came back and we hooked up. But I did NOT know she was gone. We fucked long and hard and it was the closest I've ever come to thinking I might be having a heart attack. She came more times than I remember and kept asking me to eat her out (her favorite! DATY), which I obliged. After we were done and wayyyy past one hour, she then mentioned in passing that was her first fuck since leaving here and she was horny. Lucky, fucking me, eh!? But otherwise, I figured it was just another session, right?
Great pussy is good to find. Great pussy over a long period of time, is something else. But great pussy over a long period of time that you hit over and over and over again, and it's still good? Well my man, consider yourself lucky and a rarity. THAT pussy you might want to settle down with.
All these new buildings in town
What I like about all these condos coming up is the hot milfs that live in them. Come downstairs with their kids or dogs in tight short dresses and shorts and prance around.
What a week! Hottest Asian realtor in Hawaii!
I spent this past week jizzing in my pants, really I think I ruined 2 or 3 pants. Met a realtor online and she's been showing me places around the island, just the HOTTEST ASIAN (Chinese national, divorcee) you can imagine. Designer everything, custom nails, AMG, legs to forever, and just a great personality and awesome Rack. She knows her assets and knows I was looking. Very confident, self secure, well spoken, and just the most amazing laugh, totally infectious. Shrewd as well, but uses her infinite sexuality and extremely good looks to get the attention she needs to highlight what she's trying to say.
By the third time I went out with her she was wearing a short skirt and KILLER heels, and some silk chemise that splits right in the middle, just above her breast, showing peekaboo style her lace cami.
She and I hit it off from day one, we had similar injuries, although hers were due to a freak accident in her Pilates or Zumba class, or something, and she was showing me her calf and ankles that she strained, she took her heels off and slid her stocking down to show me her inflamed calf, and let me feel the back of her leg. Ouch I hurt myself sitting still, really! She smells just so awesome too. Everything about her just exudes sexuality and delicate feminine grace and allure. And it's the way she very gently runs her fingertips along my shoulder to get my attention? Like an ATF gal does in the parlor. I wonder...?
She's sexy, knows men are looking, and knows how to lure, snare, and close the trap. She's got my business, for sure. She WILL make a sale, I WILL spend money at some point on this gal. She knows she's got me.
I don't know how much more I can stand, I may have to hit an AMP very, very soon. She's just teasing me, and she knows what she's doing to me, her commission is guaranteed at this point. I'm just intrigued by her, and her recent split from a short term relationship with some rich dude. Not much detail on that, seems she's still getting over that or whatever.
Just thought I'd share the week I've had following this AWESOME hottie, way outside my league. Haha! She hinted she has properties on Maui as well, and said we can go look at them over a weekend. I'm feeling just giddy and stupid, still looking for love in all the wrong places.
Supply & Demand. Prostitution
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If you're on the throne this is worth the time. Interesting article in the Economist about prostitution, it's going online, in what drives demand certain areas.
RJ.[/QUOTE]Good article indeed. Lots of substance (interesting facts), result from analyzing 190,000 online profiles of international escorts.
I think Hawaii's market is still not competitive enough. Lack of talent from Japanese and local origin. From all the J-Pron I've seen, Japanese girls love sex. Not sure why they don't come to Hawaii to make money from a hobby they already enjoy.
The Chinese are smarter. Now that they can get visa easily, they will just come for a few months a time and make as much as they can.
I've wondered this as well
Considering the number of existing Redlight districts, soapy parlors, deriherus (escorts) And Japan's tanking economy, I'm somewhat surprised there aren't more J-Girls in the Oahu circuit. I think the primary reason is the fact that the Koreans, Chinese and to a lesser extent the Thai's have an established foothold in the market here. They travel back and forth to their homelands and spread the word of the prosperous Hawaii AMP scene. You don't have that cross pollination among japanese working girls because there are very few to none in the rotation. I remember the Okinawa redlight district would put our provider scene to shame for the most part. Yoshihara was a whole NEIGHBORHOOD of providers. Each had their own little shack that would open up after sunset. They sat behind glass storefronts reminiscent of the Amsterdam scene so you saw exactly who you were getting before the clothes came off. $50 bucks for 15 minutes which I thought was a bit high but was pretty good.
Back on track though, it's unlikely we'll see any tasty J-Girls here anytime soon. They got to have a place to lay their heads without cutting into their funds (I. E. An AMP. The Chinese and Koreans are not about to have some newbs cut into their girls profits). Random indies might be able to swing it for a week or so but most j-girls aren't that adventurous. Too bad for us.
RJ.
[QUOTE=IsleOfMan;2254181]Good article indeed. Lots of substance (interesting facts), result from analyzing 190,000 online profiles of international escorts.
I think Hawaii's market is still not competitive enough. Lack of talent from Japanese and local origin. From all the J-Pron I've seen, Japanese girls love sex. Not sure why they don't come to Hawaii to make money from a hobby they already enjoy.
The Chinese are smarter. Now that they can get visa easily, they will just come for a few months a time and make as much as they can.[/QUOTE]
Epiphany And Revelations Part 1 Of 3
I just had one last night, I went against what I vowed not to do, because I know it could never work out, even despite the fact that I'm never clingy, needy, give rules, orders, and give them freedom to do whatever they please just to please there needs, I could and I know deep down I am capable of being like that in every single relationship I've ever been in, maybe that's why I'm still single I give them to much freedom, to them it seems like I don't care, and that the longest relationship I've have lasted only a mere 3 weeks, that's sad, but relationships aren't for everyone, certainly not for me, I've made it this far, had many relations but no relationships, so I had to do something about it, 5 years ago I ditched my old phone with numbers of temptation, just waiting for a dial, just call, hook up, maybe make them spend the night, and she'll be gone when I wake up, perfect yeah, well until your biological clock starts to tick, LOL.
So I decided to ditch the phone along with my long time FWB as well, it's best that we moved on and let me tell you, the last time we hooked up, was like the absolute worst iv'e ever had, it felt so simulated, I am even embrassed to even have any rare collection of it ever happening, and I could allude it to the fact that I was drunk and feeling lonely, she couldn't be there that night, so we settled for the next morning, meanwhile she just found a BF, and that I respect the fact the she came through for me cause I was horny, she was my longest relationship of 3 weeks, but became FWB for 5 years all because we felt that it would work out best that way, this was in 2009, fast forward two years later, I couldn't take being a goodie goodie, so I decided to monger as they say, being single with no one to mingle sucks, but at the same time taught me discipline and strengthen my self control, that two years really molded me. I always wondered why I have never been swept off my feet, no girl has ever done that to me, and to say that I don't have feelings, I'm a very sensitive person, I know I get hurt easily, I cried to a lot of movies, some of which is embarrassing to mention here, so I know I feel something. I thought of myself of being a bonafide MGTOW, until the 27th, yesterday, before I left, I felt my heart stopped, and If I had a few more minutes to say what I needed to say, I would have broken down to tears of finally coming clean, and confessing how I feel or atleast felt at that very moment, all I know is that I've never had a person sweep me off my feet till now, is this just a dream? An epiphany? A revelation? All I know is that my feelings are real. The only question that I have is am I the only one, I certainly don't want to be strung along for a ride that leads to never never land.