Thursday 3 pm 120 quote from little black spinner. Not BB. Pass on cov.
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Thursday 3 pm 120 quote from little black spinner. Not BB. Pass on cov.
This video has some of the hottest blondes I have seen on the streets in years. We need more girls like this in socal.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqHw1wVGqMA[/URL]
[QUOTE=MongerSeeker;5579596]This video has some of the hottest blondes I have seen on the streets in years. We need more girls like this in socal.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqHw1wVGqMA[/URL][/QUOTE]Yup every night about to go look.
[QUOTE=MongerSeeker;5579596]This video has some of the hottest blondes I have seen on the streets in years. We need more girls like this in socal.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqHw1wVGqMA[/URL][/QUOTE]I would cream that hot blonde for the right price!
As long as she consents to it, I'll do it, pay it, and whatever the hell happens, happens!
Saw a dude try to pick a girl up. He's now in cuffs along the stretch between two main strips.
The majority of white girls I see out there, blondes included, are pretty heavy. The vast majority of hot girls out on AA are BSWs or LSWs. Probably why I've mostly been seeing BSWs this past year.
[QUOTE=MongerSeeker;5579596]This video has some of the hottest blondes I have seen on the streets in years. We need more girls like this in socal.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqHw1wVGqMA[/URL][/QUOTE]
So do you know if this was part of a sting or was the guy simply just a dumbass who didn't follow the basic street rules for picking-up SWs?
I know there are a lot more guys reading this forum than are posting. I get PMs from men I've never seen post in here. Here's the deal, you fuckers, DO NOT stop for an SW right on Aurora. DO NOT hold-up or stop traffic because you want a have a go at the girl standing off the sidewalk in the street and bending over in her thong for the world to see. DO NOT stop for a girl in any obvious spot. DO NOT stop for a girl in front of a police cruiser (yes I see guys doing this). SWs aren't really your friends, they aren't looking after your interests. I see quite a few SWs still stand and solicit in front of parked police cruisers. No, SPD will not bust the girls and the girls now understand this. The very fact that they still stand in front of police and wave at you means they do not care about what happens to you at all. I don't care how hot she is, DO NOT stop. Police are very much interested in YOU, so if you stop in an obvious location right out in the open, police will nab you. They'll let her walk, you'll be fucked.
We need to get back to being more discreet. We need to insist upon it. If the hot girl of your dreams won't walk 30 feet to you after you stop around the corner and out of sight, then take your money somewhere else, she doesn't deserve it.
Bit of a rant, but I still see guys doing dumb, idiotic, stupid shit out there. You deserve to get busted if you're stupid.
[QUOTE=AuroraGuy69;5579735]Saw a dude try to pick a girl up. He's now in cuffs along the stretch between two main strips.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5580398]So do you know if this was part of a sting or was the guy simply just a dumbass who didn't follow the basic street rules for picking-up SWs?[/QUOTE]Agree that the Johns are being idiots and the girls know they won't be busted. Almost like the police are just letting them act as bait over and over again. You never throw out your lucky bait when fishing!
But my question is, if it wasn't a sting, how would the cops know what was said between the John and the hooker to make the interaction illegal? Boom mics?
You can't get busted for just talking to someone through your window, so honestly curious how they bust you if you're not caught in the act.
Definitely not a legal expert, but from what I've seen, police jump when a girl gets in the car. They can talk through the window, but they pounce when she gets in. They instantly separate the SW and the john for questioning. I've parked and watched this happen and it can take quite a while. The girl, if she feels pressure, will give you up, then they'll let her walk. Police can arrest or ticket, whether or not you formally get charged is another matter, but now you have to fight that off. It's just one big pain in the ass even if nothing ultimately happens to you.
In the race for City Attorney, one candidate is very much in favor of targeting johns on Aurora. I believe she'll be quite aggressive about it if she is elected. It's just an overall good idea to start practicing to be discreet.
[QUOTE=Efurufe;5580417]But my question is, if it wasn't a sting, how would the cops know what was said between the John and the hooker to make the interaction illegal? Boom mics?
You can't get busted for just talking to someone through your window, so honestly curious how they bust you if you're not caught in the act.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5580398]So do you know if this was part of a sting or was the guy simply just a dumbass who didn't follow the basic street rules for picking-up SWs?
I know there are a lot more guys reading this forum than are posting. I get PMs from men I've never seen post in here. Here's the deal, you fuckers, DO NOT stop for an SW right on Aurora. DO NOT hold-up or stop traffic because you want a have a go at the girl standing off the sidewalk in the street and bending over in her thong for the world to see. DO NOT stop for a girl in any obvious spot. DO NOT stop for a girl in front of a police cruiser (yes I see guys doing this). SWs aren't really your friends, they aren't looking after your interests. I see quite a few SWs still stand and solicit in front of parked police cruisers. No, SPD will not bust the girls and the girls now understand this. The very fact that they still stand in front of police and wave at you means they do not care about what happens to you at all. I don't care how hot she is, DO NOT stop. Police are very much interested in YOU, so if you stop in an obvious location right out in the open, police will nab you. They'll let her walk, you'll be fucked.
We need to get back to being more discreet. We need to insist upon it. If the hot girl of your dreams won't walk 30 feet to you after you stop around the corner and out of sight, then take your money somewhere else, she doesn't deserve it.
Bit of a rant, but I still see guys doing dumb, idiotic, stupid shit out there. You deserve to get busted if you're stupid.[/QUOTE]I am almost thinking its that cultural instant gratification thing everyone is used to. I want it now and don't have to work for it. I see so many just braking on AA for the girls. At least pull into a parking lot to save an accident. And like ST states, go to a side street if she has made eye contact. Eventually they will get the hint and start following the cars and talk off the main drag.
I agree most of new girls are careless. Many guys to willing to go along with this. I wish that the SW's were not so obvious about their work.
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5580398]So do you know if this was part of a sting or was the guy simply just a dumbass who didn't follow the basic street rules for picking-up SWs?
I know there are a lot more guys reading this forum than are posting. I get PMs from men I've never seen post in here. Here's the deal, you fuckers, DO NOT stop for an SW right on Aurora. DO NOT hold-up or stop traffic because you want a have a go at the girl standing off the sidewalk in the street and bending over in her thong for the world to see. DO NOT stop for a girl in any obvious spot. DO NOT stop for a girl in front of a police cruiser (yes I see guys doing this). SWs aren't really your friends, they aren't looking after your interests. I see quite a few SWs still stand and solicit in front of parked police cruisers. No, SPD will not bust the girls and the girls now understand this. The very fact that they still stand in front of police and wave at you means they do not care about what happens to you at all. I don't care how hot she is, DO NOT stop. Police are very much interested in YOU, so if you stop in an obvious location right out in the open, police will nab you. They'll let her walk, you'll be fucked.
We need to get back to being more discreet. We need to insist upon it. If the hot girl of your dreams won't walk 30 feet to you after you stop around the corner and out of sight, then take your money somewhere else, she doesn't deserve it.
Bit of a rant, but I still see guys doing dumb, idiotic, stupid shit out there. You deserve to get busted if you're stupid.[/QUOTE]
Hello gents. Nice day out today plenty of tail walking the Ave. Hotties always seem to be by kid valley. There's a hot blonde out there right now and another spinner white girl across the street. Anyone had any of these dimes?
Unfortunately it is become fairly rare to see any hot WSW's on west coast in recent years. There has been a slight uptick with the past year or so.
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5580388]The majority of white girls I see out there, blondes included, are pretty heavy. The vast majority of hot girls out on AA are BSWs or LSWs. Probably why I've mostly been seeing BSWs this past year.[/QUOTE]
I think there is some of that, true. But I also think that what's happened is that the SWs out there have trained us men to talk at the window as well as to stop right where they are standing. When this first started happening I resisted, then I realized I wasn't going to get anything if I didn't figure it out. While I still don't stop immediately where the girl is standing if she's in a bad spot, I admit I've bent the rules on window chatter. I'll park and watch for a while if I can, if the girls moves around or talks to guys and nobody gets popped, she's not a decoy. But I have stopped numerous times around a corner from where an SW is standing and she'll just peek around the corner at me. Sometimes she'll wave to me to come to HER. I won't if she's standing immediately right on Aurora or some other very public place. Just won't do it. They want ME to go to THEM, even if it's just a 30-foot walk.
And while I can't verify, there seem to be a lot of newer guys out there and they've learned to play the game by doing the chat at the window and by stopping right where the girls want them to in the open. They've been trained to do that by the girls. On the Instagram page for Seattle streetwalkers, some SWs are commenting about guys not rolling down their windows to chat. They don't want to get in. I don't know how we're going to do it, but WE somehow need to change THEIR behavior. I'm telling ya, if the City Attorney spot is filled by that gal who wants to go after buyers, it could really impact us as so many of us are now prone to be fooled by a decoy who talks at the window.
[QUOTE=TomaIn;5580644]I am almost thinking its that cultural instant gratification thing everyone is used to. I want it now and don't have to work for it. I see so many just braking on AA for the girls. At least pull into a parking lot to save an accident. And like ST states, go to a side street if she has made eye contact. Eventually they will get the hint and start following the cars and talk off the main drag.[/QUOTE]
There is Poppo, screaming loud and clear as I drove by him and the car whose driver he is screaming at.
Basically, Poppo was chewing out some guy for pleasuring himself in the car, while parked on the side of the street.
"This is not the time nor place for that," Poppo just yelled at the poor guy.
"That's very illegal, and very stupid," Poppo continued to yell.
There is Poppo, screaming loud and clear as I drove by him and the car whose driver he is screaming at.
Basically, Poppo was chewing out some guy for pleasuring himself in the car, while parked on the side of the street.
"This is not the time nor place for that," Poppo just yelled at the poor guy.
"That's very illegal, and very stupid," Poppo continued to yell.
If the girl insists on chatting through the window I will either park ask her to grab me. But this only for known SW's that I have seen before.
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5581197]I think there is some of that, true. But I also think that what's happened is that the SWs out there have trained us men to talk at the window as well as to stop right where they are standing. When this first started happening I resisted, then I realized I wasn't going to get anything if I didn't figure it out. While I still don't stop immediately where the girl is standing if she's in a bad spot, I admit I've bent the rules on window chatter. I'll park and watch for a while if I can, if the girls moves around or talks to guys and nobody gets popped, she's not a decoy. But I have stopped numerous times around a corner from where an SW is standing and she'll just peek around the corner at me. Sometimes she'll wave to me to come to HER. I won't if she's standing immediately right on Aurora or some other very public place. Just won't do it. They want ME to go to THEM, even if it's just a 30-foot walk.
And while I can't verify, there seem to be a lot of newer guys out there and they've learned to play the game by doing the chat at the window and by stopping right where the girls want them to in the open. They've been trained to do that by the girls. On the Instagram page for Seattle streetwalkers, some SWs are commenting about guys not rolling down their windows to chat. They don't want to get in. I don't know how we're going to do it, but WE somehow need to change THEIR behavior. I'm telling ya, if the City Attorney spot is filled by that gal who wants to go after buyers, it could really impact us as so many of us are now prone to be fooled by a decoy who talks at the window.[/QUOTE]
Drove around last night between 7-10 pm. SW from ihop to 145th. Police cruisers stationed every couple blocks, they even pulled over some people around the ihop blocks. Found this girl off Listcrawler, Kandi, 5'5' BSW spinner. Amazing body, about 25 in age, medium brown skin with tattoos. She's from AZ, here until end of month. She walks AA, she got a room at Nexus. Anyways called her up and she asked form $50 for HHR, then after I didn't respond she offered a "special" for just $. Service was all safety, she had a good attitude and she wasn't stuck up. Mission Accomplished! Her ad and number is in Listcrawler if you want it. These girls are facing mounting pressure from police activity, and with the weather changing I feel a swing in prices. Time to collect!
However you take here's an article that impacts us mongers.
[URL]https://m.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/seattle-police-department-may-fire-numerous-officers-as-hundreds-havent-shown-vaccination-proof_4045109.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-10-13&mktids=79f777989b9af71258d69e24e89c9a5f&est=Eo4hEZ6BPHE4FshuZ5DIJeCoEHgqacBDWCeCaBFbnUhiBeV7yv1aEC8nTwW7[/URL]
Because of the discussion here on SW enforcement.
Now, where are the crackheads for a Jackson or two. I checked out the AA scene from Kidd Valley on down. Quotes are too much for my poor blood.
On 141st right now small b cups maybe. White spinner. 2 cov doesn't do bare. Too rich for cov IMO oof.
I've been seeing some of the old-time AA regulars closer to 85th. I haven't really been cruising too much lately, but the few times I've driven through on my way to somewhere else I've seen some of the old-timers out there. They seem to walk farther south on AA to avoid the pimps and other out-of-towner girls who've claimed the corners farther north. I've seen Melissa Souix Native girl out there, Shandy, Pricilla, Rebecca, April, Jessica and a few others I recognize but have actually never met because they aren't my type. I even saw Tiny walking toward 85th not long ago, haven't seen her out since the Everspring was open. But some of the old AA crew seem to be coming out a bit more lately. Not a lot of them, mind you, and definitely not all out there at once, but I've seen them. So make sure to include the area round 85th and south.
[QUOTE=LookingOn;5587649]Now, where are the crackheads for a Jackson or two. I checked out the AA scene from Kidd Valley on down. Quotes are too much for my poor blood.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LookingOn;5587649]However you take here's an article that impacts us mongers.
[URL]https://m.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/seattle-police-department-may-fire-numerous-officers-as-hundreds-havent-shown-vaccination-proof_4045109.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-10-13&mktids=79f777989b9af71258d69e24e89c9a5f&est=Eo4hEZ6BPHE4FshuZ5DIJeCoEHgqacBDWCeCaBFbnUhiBeV7yv1aEC8nTwW7[/URL]
Because of the discussion here on SW enforcement.
Now, where are the crackheads for a Jackson or two. I checked out the AA scene from Kidd Valley on down. Quotes are too much for my poor blood.[/QUOTE]I got a BJ from one in White Center about a month ago. She wanted $20, I gave her $40. I wouldn't bother with White Center though, ain't much out there.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;5588710]I got a BJ from one in White Center about a month ago. She wanted $20, I gave her $40. I wouldn't bother with White Center though, ain't much out there.[/QUOTE]Where in WC? What time of day.
I saw this video today is this the right forum to ask question about safe / cheap place to do date in a car or motel around the area that was shown in the video?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOCcoTCS6_o[/URL]
I want to visit and check out the street scene any info that will help me i am all ears.
Friday night counting 8 out. Two pulled over on side of the road by the motels where they usually come out. Barely any girls out now. Interesting.
Most of the girls out there these days will have a room to which you can go. These are typically the trashy motels you see on Aurora. Regarding spots for car dates, it isn't really a good idea to post date spots on this forum for a variety of reasons, but it does depend upon time of day and the type of service you're seeking. I never used to have a problem finding a spot after 10 pm but day time sucks.
[QUOTE=HookersHunter;5591785]I saw this video today is this the right forum to ask question about safe / cheap place to do date in a car or motel around the area that was shown in the video?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOCcoTCS6_o[/URL]
I want to visit and check out the street scene any info that will help me i am all ears.[/QUOTE]
I agree listing locations for taking girls is foolish. My rule of thumb is to drive a min of 10 or 1 mile from where I pick up a SW. The basic idea is get away from the area where the girls are active. Another advantage is that the locals are less ikely to be riled up. Google maps and Google street view is a great way to look for good locations to take a girl. I would also agree that it has become more difficult to find a good day time spot. There is more people taking walks so many of the good spots I took girls before have become more risky. There is a lot more trees and bushes so it would seem easier to find a spot that is not to obvious.
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5591881]Most of the girls out there these days will have a room to which you can go. These are typically the trashy motels you see on Aurora. Regarding spots for car dates, it isn't really a good idea to post date spots on this forum for a variety of reasons, but it does depend upon time of day and the type of service you're seeking. I never used to have a problem finding a spot after 10 pm but day time sucks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5591881]It isn't really a good idea to post date spots...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MongerSeeker;5591930]Listing locations for taking girls is foolish... [/QUOTE]Thank you both. I totally agree with not to give out location openly in the forum.
I will be visiting and staying there for a week to sample the Aurora Street scene. I love the Aurora street scene. I want to find a cheap place to stay and do some mongering.
Any info that helpful or important doesn't want to post in the forum, Please my PM is always open.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H7QwhUKpEM[/URL]
Hello,
I am planning to visit Seattle soon. I will be staying in a hotel and don't have a car? I hear some of these girls have rooms Is it safe to go to to their spot? If not, is it safe to bring them to my hotel room? I am happy to get hourly motels too. Please inbox's if you have better locations for the deed.
One caution here. There's cheap and close, and then there's livable. Most of the cheap motels right on Aurora are not places you'll want to stay even for a few days. They're ugly, not always the cleanest and you'll be surrounded by pimpy-types and craziness. If you want close to AA but yet nicer, you could stay in Northgate near the light rail line (NOT the Nexus), in South Lake Union or farther north in Shoreline. I wouldn't stay in any of the motels on AA, FYI.
[QUOTE=HookersHunter;5592378]I want to find a cheap place to stay and do some mongering.[/QUOTE]
Been going out often last couple days. A couple things I notice.
1. Vice was out in the unmarked Chevy farther down around 2 am yesterday around the Burgermaster. Hadn't seen them for awhile (unmarked Chevy with the multiple cop radio antennas outside with red glow laptop set up inside it). Been a bit since I had seen that.
2. So hard to find Bb anything. All cov so far. Went out just now around 10 pm Friday night. Girl said FS was 1 cov. Just doesn't do it for me. Also had another night where a girl said 120 I passed. And she kept saying what can I do then? Must be slow out there.
Figured I'd go out just to see the goods tonight, not really planning or expecting to pick anyone up, and I'm glad that was my plan because SPD is out there. I've been driving around since about 9:30-10 pm and I've seen a lot of cruisers stopping the fun.
I haven't really been out on AA these past few weeks. Tonight I made two quick passes around after 9 pm on Saturday evening, counted five girls from 145th to 85th. Not much traffic out there, either. Zero girls at Lowe's / Firestone, three BSWs standing on the sidewalk in front of Les Schwab. These girls were dressed in very dark clothing, I barely saw them as I passed. Saw two girls south of 97th, one was near 90th and walking south, she seemed very familiar to me but I couldn't see her face very well under her hoodie. On the way back north she stopped as if I were going to pick her up, she definitely recognized me but again I couldn't tell who she was so I kept going. Some of the local girls are walking the blocks south of 95 to 85th, the blocks where the pimped traveling girls don't walk. I had to be somewhere so didn't stop for anyone and honestly nobody looked appealing to me anyway. One interesting thing which I saw was a guy cruising around in a Lamborghini and beeping his horn all of the girls. He'd rev his engine and drive aggressively near them blare the horn. I thought that was rather stupid. There were SPD cruisers parked all along the blocks north of 125th, they were definitely out tonight.
Wonder how the winter will go.
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5592459]One caution here. There's cheap and close...[/QUOTE]Thank you for your suggestion.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG0rgW9sTb4[/URL]
Are you seeing anyone getting busted whenever you see this vehicle? Since two girls have told me that they've been watching stings in the parking lot of IHOP over the past month, a vehicle at Burgmaster fits.
[QUOTE=AuroraGuy69;5593059]1. Vice was out in the unmarked Chevy farther down around 2 am yesterday around the Burgermaster. Hadn't seen them for awhile (unmarked Chevy with the multiple cop radio antennas outside with red glow laptop set up inside it). Been a bit since I had seen that.[/QUOTE]In my experience, some nights you won't find it. Most, in fact. This is opposite to how it was in 2018 and earlier when I found it easily. I respect the girls for holding their ground on services, I really do, I don't twist arms. She does or she doesn't. But it does get annoying some nights, particularly when you're ready and want it. Seems like the crowd has been thinning out there so probably fewer options right now. You literally have to stop for every girl out there and ask. I have been surprised at some of the girls who have offered, some real lookers, but I expect it to continue to be hard to find. The funny thing is that that trashier she looks and the more she turns and shakes her ass at traffic, the less likely she is to be flexible on her service offerings. I don't think I've ever had one of these girls accept any of my offers. It's usually the less-conspicuous girls, still attractive and well-dressed but not showing-off, who are more likely to go bare. Just my experience.
[QUOTE=AuroraGuy69;5593059]2. So hard to find Bb anything. All cov so far. Went out just now around 10 pm Friday night. Girl said FS was 1 cov. Just doesn't do it for me. Also had another night where a girl said 120 I passed. And she kept saying what can I do then? Must be slow out there.[/QUOTE]
It is not wise to pick up a SW without a car. Seattle has a city loitering law. So it very difficult to pick up a SW without implicating yourself in a sting. One problem is that you cannot do a cop check in the street. Your best bet is rent a car.
[QUOTE=DionHunk;5592390]Hello,
I am planning to visit Seattle soon. I will be staying in a hotel and don't have a car? I hear some of these girls have rooms Is it safe to go to to their spot? If not, is it safe to bring them to my hotel room? I am happy to get hourly motels too. Please inbox's if you have better locations for the deed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MongerSeeker;5594257]It is not wise to pick up a SW without a car. Seattle has a city loitering law. So it very difficult to pick up a SW without implicating yourself in a sting. One problem is that you cannot do a cop check in the street. Your best bet is rent a car.[/QUOTE]Hourly motels are illegal in this state.
[QUOTE=MongerSeeker;5594257]It is not wise to pick up a SW without a car. Seattle has a city loitering law. So it very difficult to pick up a SW without implicating yourself in a sting. One problem is that you cannot do a cop check in the street. Your best bet is rent a car.[/QUOTE]Thank you boss. I don't have a license unfortunately. What are my options then?
FYI, my understanding is that the loitering laws were repealed in July. They were mainly meant for homeless and prostitutes and they were repealed by unanimous decision by the city council. I don't think there are any for johns, but I'm not sure about this. That being said, I'm not sure how picking-up an SW works on foot out there, but I'm sure it can be done. I've seen men approach on foot and I've also seen SWs stop men for a chat on the sidewalks. My impression is that the pimped traveling SWs out there will target anyone and consider any man fair-game. Money, money money, that's all their traffickers care about, so if you've got cash and are serious, it can be done.
Regarding a room, you should be okay to go to an SW's room. Just be cautious as you normally would in these situations. Most girls don't want crazy because management will kick them out and having a room right on AA is convenient. They aren't very nice rooms by any stretch of the imagination, but it works. Most won't want to go to your room if they have one nearby.
[QUOTE=MongerSeeker;5594257]It is not wise to pick up a SW without a car. Seattle has a city loitering law. So it very difficult to pick up a SW without implicating yourself in a sting. One problem is that you cannot do a cop check in the street. Your best bet is rent a car.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5594240]Are you seeing anyone getting busted whenever you see this vehicle? Since two girls have told me that they've been watching stings in the parking lot of IHOP over the past month, a vehicle at Burgmaster fits.
In my experience, some nights you won't find it. Most, in fact. This is opposite to how it was in 2018 and earlier when I found it easily. I respect the girls for holding their ground on services, I really do, I don't twist arms. She does or she doesn't. But it does get annoying some nights, particularly when you're ready and want it. Seems like the crowd has been thinning out there so probably fewer options right now. You literally have to stop for every girl out there and ask. I have been surprised at some of the girls who have offered, some real lookers, but I expect it to continue to be hard to find. The funny thing is that that trashier she looks and the more she turns and shakes her ass at traffic, the less likely she is to be flexible on her service offerings. I don't think I've ever had one of these girls accept any of my offers. It's usually the less-conspicuous girls, still attractive and well-dressed but not showing-off, who are more likely to go bare. Just my experience.[/QUOTE]Whenever I see that vehicle I dip. Too hot for me. Used to see him parked by the kid valley on the that auto strip there.