Massage Parlor Reports

Gents, it seems there is a lot of ads for this place. It has a "thorn" in the street name. I responded to this ad.

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/soft-spoken-luxury-intoxicatin/985060202576[/URL], hoping to meet the sweet little spinner in the photo.

I've been burned at this location before, so maybe I'm dim. Scheduled the meeting and even adjusted the time so she "can be ready for me. " I arrive a few minutes late, and the place is packed. No place to park. She says, "I'm sorry a walk-in came, and all rooms are full. " I reminded her of my short timeline, and to her credit, she offered to get a hotel room. I didn't have time for more running around, so I bailed. She has offered to make it right, so we'll see.

The location has me spooked because there are other businesses nearby. If she schedule an incall somewhere else, I'll give it a go. Otherwise, it's a no go.

[QUOTE=Trobber222;7510522]Seems to be 28th / Byron Center in an industrial area. Is that a known place already?[/QUOTE]

Guys, I hope what I'm hearing isn't true about Panacea and tipping. If the door fee is $50 for a HH that's the starting rate and includes at least taking the top off if not the panties also. That should happen right at the start without tip being mentioned. The girls know why we're here and that the door fee includes getting comfortable and a HE. Of course you should tip for a nice HJ and plenty of roaming. A good tip is a 100% of the door fee which would match the $50 so you would have a $100 invested in your hh. BTW, the girls at Panacea get to keep half of the door fee and 100% of their tip. So for that hh of rubbing and providing a topless or nude release, they are making $75. If they provide more like face sitting, BJ, etc then of course a higher tip would be warranted but do not let them try to charge you an extra 100 or more just to go topless, that's always been included right off the bat.

[QUOTE=Member#6967;7511096]Gents, it seems there is a lot of ads for this place. It has a "thorn" in the street name. I responded to this ad.

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/soft-spoken-luxury-intoxicatin/985060202576[/URL], hoping to meet the sweet little spinner in the photo.

I've been burned at this location before, so maybe I'm dim. Scheduled the meeting and even adjusted the time so she "can be ready for me. " I arrive a few minutes late, and the place is packed. No place to park. She says, "I'm sorry a walk-in came, and all rooms are full. " I reminded her of my short timeline, and to her credit, she offered to get a hotel room. I didn't have time for more running around, so I bailed. She has offered to make it right, so we'll see.

The location has me spooked because there are other businesses nearby. If she schedule an incall somewhere else, I'll give it a go. Otherwise, it's a no go.[/QUOTE]Same exact thing happened to me. Had appt scheduled. Showed 5 min late and she said come back in 45 a walk in just showed up.

Alright Gents,

A little catch up. Finally visited the infamous TNC a while back. I heard good things, and some bad, decided to check it out myself. I don't remember any names, but I remember the lady being attractive, with the exception of a C section scar. The massage left a lot to be desired, very little teasing, and it was rushed. The L3 service was pretty terrible. She didn't know how to CG and just did that grinding thing that only feels good to them. Changed to miss after a bit, released, cleaned up and left. She was nice, but something was just off about the whole experience. I can't put my finger on what it was. I think she seemed nervous or irritated. Who knows. I think it was. 5 for the door fee and $1. 8 maybe $$ for the service. Expensive and wasn't worth it. I don't expect to return until I start seeing better reviews.

Today. I tried to check out MD on stocking, as I'm a big fan of L3 services and there aren't many around. I don't normally text or call ahead, I prefer just walking in and enjoying the surprise who I may get. But there was something about their ad that caused me to text. I think it was the lack of saying anything like "Walk-ins welcome" and having never been there, I didn't want to be disappointed if they were busy. So when I was about 10 minutes away I texted the number. Quick response told me to come on over. I usually drive by a couple of times and check side roads and nearby businesses when I'm partaking in the hobby, and especially if its a new place. So while I was out driving around I saw my Uncle LEO. He was all over the place. Being that he was in plain sight, definitely not trying to hide, I suspect it was a coincidence. I think I counted four different uncles around there, I swear it was a GD family reunion. So I decided to pass. Again, I suspect it was a coincidence, but being that it was my first time texting ahead of time, and its maybe the second time I ever drove off due to being uncomfortable, maybe it wasn't just a coincidence. Who knows.

I decided to cut my losses, I was way out of my usual territory, and headed back toward home, but being frustrated and not wanting to go home empty handed, I decided to swing through Lulu's in Lowell. I had read a post or two that a couple people got lucky with some L2 services. Not L3 that I prefer, but I can work with it. Walked in, got a lady that was maybe a little older than I would hope for, but still fairly attractive. The massage starts and I usually try some over the top roaming right away, to let her know why I'm here and encourage the teasing. She immediately swiped my hands away and laughed. I couldn't believe it, I was thinking I had struck out completely today. I'm laying there for the massage, it was very good. Then eventually she gets to the teasing and starts to allow roaming and things start to go as planned. On the flip, I can barely understand what she's asking, but I know the game, and even though I wasn't expecting it, I asked for the L3 services. I pointed to be clear what I wanted. Usually if its not offered they just shake their head no, and I settle for whatever, but I almost always try. She said $$. 6. I was stunned for a moment, I wasn't expecting a yes at this place, nor was I expecting that kind of price. Maybe it was because I opted for an hour instead of the half that I usually do, but after being disappointed about not visiting MD, I agreed after getting her down to $$. 2 She left, cleaned my up as they do before beginning and off we went. Attractive body, a lot of fun, and she seemed to generally enjoy it. . 65 door and $$. 2 for the tip.

It was an expensive day. Although it ended well, I am disappointed at the wasted time / trip to MD and the cost at Lulu's, I've read previous reports that prices seem to be going up everywhere. It makes sense, I get it, they got to keep up with life too, but its still annoying. I'm pretty open about the hobby among my friends, I don't hide it. They think its hilarious usually, one of the jokes I always make is that the hobby is cheaper than having a relationship. I'm beginning to wonder if that's still true anymore.

On the expensive note. I am curious about the new Relaxation Station on 4 mile. One of the girls who advertise there, her ad talks about speaking Greek, which is intriguing. However, American MPs are generally so much more expensive than the AMPs. Do I even want to know the expected gratuities at that place? I understand YMMV, but I'm curious experiences? Ballpark?

Wasted a couple days texting back and forth. No details, no tip rates, etc. Finally after what seemed a productive conversation around what to expect, and saying no FS needed- her tips after 80 hr door fee "start" at 100-150. No thanks. Way too many know flat rate great providers to mess around with upselling "start at" FS rates for non FS services.

[QUOTE=Noctis4569;7511692]Alright Gents,

A little catch up. Finally visited the infamous TNC a while back. I heard good things, and some bad, decided to check it out myself. I don't remember any names, but I remember the lady being attractive, with the exception of a C section scar. The massage left a lot to be desired, very little teasing, and it was rushed. The L3 service was pretty terrible. She didn't know how to CG and just did that grinding thing that only feels good to them. Changed to miss after a bit, released, cleaned up and left. She was nice, but something was just off about the whole experience. I can't put my finger on what it was. I think she seemed nervous or irritated. Who knows. I think it was. 5 for the door fee and $1. 8 maybe $$ for the service. Expensive and wasn't worth it. I don't expect to return until I start seeing better reviews.

Today. I tried to check out MD on stocking, as I'm a big fan of L3 services and there aren't many around. I don't normally text or call ahead, I prefer just walking in and enjoying the surprise who I may get. But there was something about their ad that caused me to text. I think it was the lack of saying anything like "Walk-ins welcome" and having never been there, I didn't want to be disappointed if they were busy. So when I was about 10 minutes away I texted the number. Quick response told me to come on over. I usually drive by a couple of times and check side roads and nearby businesses when I'm partaking in the hobby, and especially if its a new place. So while I was out driving around I saw my Uncle LEO. He was all over the place. Being that he was in plain sight, definitely not trying to hide, I suspect it was a coincidence. I think I counted four different uncles around there, I swear it was a GD family reunion. So I decided to pass. Again, I suspect it was a coincidence, but being that it was my first time texting ahead of time, and its maybe the second time I ever drove off due to being uncomfortable, maybe it wasn't just a coincidence. Who knows.

I decided to cut my losses, I was way out of my usual territory, and headed back toward home, but being frustrated and not wanting to go home empty handed, I decided to swing through Lulu's in Lowell. I had read a post or two that a couple people got lucky with some L2 services. Not L3 that I prefer, but I can work with it. Walked in, got a lady that was maybe a little older than I would hope for, but still fairly attractive. The massage starts and I usually try some over the top roaming right away, to let her know why I'm here and encourage the teasing. She immediately swiped my hands away and laughed. I couldn't believe it, I was thinking I had struck out completely today. I'm laying there for the massage, it was very good. Then eventually she gets to the teasing and starts to allow roaming and things start to go as planned. On the flip, I can barely understand what she's asking, but I know the game, and even though I wasn't expecting it, I asked for the L3 services. I pointed to be clear what I wanted. Usually if its not offered they just shake their head no, and I settle for whatever, but I almost always try. She said $$. 6. I was stunned for a moment, I wasn't expecting a yes at this place, nor was I expecting that kind of price. Maybe it was because I opted for an hour instead of the half that I usually do, but after being disappointed about not visiting MD, I agreed after getting her down to $$. 2 She left, cleaned my up as they do before beginning and off we went. Attractive body, a lot of fun, and she seemed to generally enjoy it. . 65 door and $$. 2 for the tip.

It was an expensive day. Although it ended well, I am disappointed at the wasted time / trip to MD and the cost at Lulu's, I've read previous reports that prices seem to be going up everywhere. It makes sense, I get it, they got to keep up with life too, but its still annoying. I'm pretty open about the hobby among my friends, I don't hide it. They think its hilarious usually, one of the jokes I always make is that the hobby is cheaper than having a relationship. I'm beginning to wonder if that's still true anymore.

On the expensive note. I am curious about the new Relaxation Station on 4 mile. One of the girls who advertise there, her ad talks about speaking Greek, which is intriguing. However, American MPs are generally so much more expensive than the AMPs. Do I even want to know the expected gratuities at that place? I understand YMMV, but I'm curious experiences? Ballpark?[/QUOTE]MD is pretty safe, I had no problems with LEO when I went a week ago. I'll have to try the Lowell location but it sounds pricey. As for the 4 Mile location. Avoid like the plague. Some of them advertise in STG escort section but have no intention of actually providing any service. I saw a woman there who accused me of awful stuff when we discussed FS that was in her STG ad yelled that she was going to call LEO on me. Stole my $$. AVOID.

I can tell you that the LEO presence on Stocking is more to do with the riff-raff on the street than anything else. There are a lot of vagrants in that particular area (especially near 7th and Alpine). I have not had issues with them from a hobby standpoint around there. They have bigger issues to deal with.

Play safe!

Shaw.

[QUOTE=Noctis4569;7511692]Alright Gents,

A little catch up. Finally visited the infamous TNC a while back. I heard good things, and some bad, decided to check it out myself. I don't remember any names, but I remember the lady being attractive, with the exception of a C section scar. The massage left a lot to be desired, very little teasing, and it was rushed. The L3 service was pretty terrible. She didn't know how to CG and just did that grinding thing that only feels good to them. Changed to miss after a bit, released, cleaned up and left. She was nice, but something was just off about the whole experience. I can't put my finger on what it was. I think she seemed nervous or irritated. Who knows. I think it was. 5 for the door fee and $1. 8 maybe $$ for the service. Expensive and wasn't worth it. I don't expect to return until I start seeing better reviews.

Today. I tried to check out MD on stocking, as I'm a big fan of L3 services and there aren't many around. I don't normally text or call ahead, I prefer just walking in and enjoying the surprise who I may get. But there was something about their ad that caused me to text. I think it was the lack of saying anything like "Walk-ins welcome" and having never been there, I didn't want to be disappointed if they were busy. So when I was about 10 minutes away I texted the number. Quick response told me to come on over. I usually drive by a couple of times and check side roads and nearby businesses when I'm partaking in the hobby, and especially if its a new place. So while I was out driving around I saw my Uncle LEO. He was all over the place. Being that he was in plain sight, definitely not trying to hide, I suspect it was a coincidence. I think I counted four different uncles around there, I swear it was a GD family reunion..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldDutch;7511864] As for the 4 Mile location. Avoid like the plague. Some of them advertise in STG escort section but have no intention of actually providing any service. I saw a woman there who accused me of awful stuff when we discussed FS that was in her STG ad yelled that she was going to call LEO on me. Stole my $$. AVOID.[/QUOTE]I had a bad experience at 4 mile as well, but not as bad as OldDutch.

The woman I think was named Anita and when she asked what I wanted I told her I wanted everything. She said OK, had me pay $$ (more than I wanted), took off her clothes and proceeded to give me the most rushed HJ I've ever had. I told her to slow down so we could do more, but she refused, said only HJ and kept hammering away. I finally managed to pry her hand off me, got dressed and left with a sore member and $$ poorer.

Definitely not going back. I recommend avoiding.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;7511177]Guys, I hope what I'm hearing isn't true about Panacea and tipping. If the door fee is $50 for a HH that's the starting rate and includes at least taking the top off if not the panties also. That should happen right at the start without tip being mentioned. The girls know why we're here and that the door fee includes getting comfortable and a HE. Of course you should tip for a nice HJ and plenty of roaming. A good tip is a 100% of the door fee which would match the $50 so you would have a $100 invested in your hh. BTW, the girls at Panacea get to keep half of the door fee and 100% of their tip. So for that hh of rubbing and providing a topless or nude release, they are making $75. If they provide more like face sitting, BJ, etc then of course a higher tip would be warranted but do not let them try to charge you an extra 100 or more just to go topless, that's always been included right off the bat.[/QUOTE]I won't see a parlor woman more than once if she upsells to take her tits out. Idc about fully nude as much but at least get to the panties and let that ass out! Good to know about Panacea women getting some of the door fee but I stopped seeing any woman there as they want more than door fee just to go topless. It's a damn shame as some of them are pretty but none of them are great at massage from past experience. A real MP knows you take those boobs out and show a guy a good time and he will reciprocate with more money.

Gents,

I saw that Sophia is posting again. I had seen her before at her private incall and decided I needed a safe sure thing because I was on a tight timeframe. Scheduling was easy and her flat rates obviate the in-room tip haggling that you get at parlors, which I find to be boner-killers. Since I saw her last, she has upped her game with a new table and massage area. As before, her massage was great, idk if she is professionally trained but she certainly has strong smooth hands. I was happy at the end with a no drama, complete hour massage. I will return for sure.

Hobby safe,

Tom.

Stopped by here only because it's close by. Tried it a couple years ago and it was a dud.

It was freezing inside. Pretty sure the heat is off. The room had electric heaters in it so it was warm. Massage was nothing great. Felt like I was getting beat up more than massaged. HE in the middle of the visit, then back to beating me up. LOL. 50 for the hh. Tip matched the door. It did last longer than the 30 I asked for, I guess that's the only good thing.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;7510960]Haven't had a chance to get there since they moved locations. Any new reports? Audi gives such a great massage and I've also had Summer a couple times.[/QUOTE]The address in the ad still shows the same place on Plainfield. Rose gave an acceptable MS and HJ for the ending. Audi always gave a very good MS, but would either call in Rose or watch you do a self handy if you wanted to leave happy. Plus the last time I was there Audi left the room at least a half dozen times to answer the phone or a walk in. Those are the reasons I haven't been back in over a year. Don't know if Rose is still there.

Why do they beat it like they're mad at it? I posted about an Allendale provider that uses fake photos who did the sames thing. Beat it like she hates it.

[QUOTE=DudeMustAbide;7512764]I had a bad experience at 4 mile as well, but not as bad as OldDutch.

The woman I think was named Anita and when she asked what I wanted I told her I wanted everything. She said OK, had me pay $$ (more than I wanted), took off her clothes and proceeded to give me the most rushed HJ I've ever had. I told her to slow down so we could do more, but she refused, said only HJ and kept hammering away. I finally managed to pry her hand off me, got dressed and left with a sore member and $$ poorer.

Definitely not going back. I recommend avoiding.[/QUOTE]

I've been laid up and missing a wonderful massage. I only trust Angel, period. Her modalities and techniques WOW. Contact and confirmation is easy, we set a time and we spent time catching up, she is very knowledgeable. I love that the time established is accurate not rushing. The oil applied, the long, firm strokes began, changing pressure and touch as needed. Those hands. Search out trouble areas, they artfully tease and touch finding the muscles in need. A stroke here a light brush there, I was relaxed but the boys were waking. After the back it was the flip, the long sensing hands, fingernail tickles, and then, and then a new take on the prostate, what a feeling and thrill! What a feeling.

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/massage/angelready-to-playbest-prostat/542465966128[/URL]

[QUOTE=Member#6967;7513381]Why do they beat it like they're mad at it? I posted about an Allendale provider that uses fake photos who did the sames thing. Beat it like she hates it.[/QUOTE]Most providers don't take pleasure in their service or think their service is amazing when it isn't. With every few dozen providers I see I might find 1 or 2 who really enjoys what they do and their time with you. HJ enjoyment varies greatly between individuals though and the real keepers not deliver well but also discuss how we want it done differently. Finding someone who is awesome both on your stomach and your back is really tough to find in GR right now.