Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=Dj Hunter]Thank you man. I wish you good luck and a very long, if not permanent, hiatus from this. A lot of you guys have reached out to me via PM and otherwise, and I am very appreciative. Some of the conversations I've had has started me on a path of introspection. I don't yet know what is going to lead me away from this hobby for good, and I'm not very good at cold turkey way of quitting, but I know it's been time to quit for a long time. I've posted about it before. Whoever said we're better with this hobby than without it is lying to themselves. Many of us have damn near destroyed our lives and others for the sake of this. It was never really worth it, but I justified reasons why I needed to be doing this, and I'll continue to do so, I just need a way to call myself back to reality when I start giving myself irrational justifications.

Thanks everyone, even you guys I disagree with. Thanks for the PMs and please, by all means, let's continue that dialogue via the PMs. For the rest of you, be safe out there. See you around :)[/QUOTE]

If you had announced a cold turkey retirement, I'd expect to see you back within a week or two. We've seen that. But by giving yourself permission to return, or to leave slowly, it seems more likely you'll get things under control.

I wouldn't expect a "normal" relationship to be the answer, though. As was pointed out a few days ago, you may find the same thing happening there as here.

I prefer non-lovers to lovers: more choice, control, objectivity, less guilt, fewer complications, clearer expectations. But sex is addictive, expensive and dangerous - lover or non-lover - and you always pay. Hope you are able to get things under control, whatever you decide to do.
Rapid

Does anyone know what ever happened to Kristen? She was the girl on A&E's intervention.

And how about Bridget?

Does anyone know and could tell me about Melody? Melody is about 5'1'' 99lbs with black hair and a paw tattoo on her leg/thigh.

Picked up Jewelz Saturday around 10 AM at Payson St. 29 YO spinner, pretty face, very small boobs but nice nipples. I like smaller boobs, anyway. Went to the notell for a little R & R and pictures. She told me she was starting to get a little ill, and needed her meds, but she still didn't rush anything. Lots of tongue action and attention to the boys. She said she would usually swallow, just not at this moment. Everything is on the menu she said, except anal, but she didn't really seem to be dead set against that, either. Overall good service and takes direction well. I would repeat, just hopefully she will not be getting ill next time.

Anything weak people can't control they call a disease.
It's a croc...a cop out.

It's a weakness. It's also a choice we made.
You're free to choose; you're not free to choose the consequences of your choice.

Mongering isn't a disease; it's a psychological problem.
It can be [b]"fixed"[/b], but it requires a willingness to want to fix it.
Mongering goes deep; a person must first [b]"fix"[/b] these root causes before they will ever have the willpower to "just say no".

DJ, we all have some unresolved issues that are contributes to our mongering....but until you find the courage to manage your problems, you'll continue to go down.

You stepped into the dark side, and literally become lost and confused;
realized that you were going down the wrong path and hit rock bottom.

If you wanna kick, then kick. It's as simple as that. [size=-2][b](on your time scale.)[/size][/b]
But if you keep it up, you're gonna lose yourself and everything else.

No one, and I mean no one can get you to stop unless you wanna to stop!!!
Us fellow mongers can give advice till we're blue in the face,
but again unless you want to stop its not going to happen.

[b]Most of us have incorporated this in our lives; we manage and live with it.[/b][QUOTE=Rapid]I prefer non-lovers to lovers: more choice, control, objectivity, less guilt, fewer complications, clearer expectations. But sex is addictive, expensive and dangerous - lover or non-lover - and you always pay. Hope you are able to get things under control, whatever you decide to do.
Rapid[/QUOTE][b] I beg to differ; I think he has a chance.
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For you DJ.....it just seems different. You seem like a young, smart, rational and intelligent person;
It all depends on how you play the game; find a good civillian hoe(s). :)

Mix it up a little bit, but lean heavy on the civillian side.
Slowly.....ween yourself from the darkside.
Turn that into a habit.

If you want to ignore that, then .......

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.[/blue]

Picked up Bam Bam around 8:30am yesterday. It was her and another sw out that early. Took her to a spot in the county. She had the audacity to ask for 60.00 for a blow job. Countered her down.

She started off with lots of mouth and then tried to sneak in jerking me off with her hands. Corrected her and she was better after that. Sometimes you have to let them know. She showed me her tits (not bad) and the rest of her body. May upgrade if I see her again. A word of warning-I have been informed that she can be a runner,so take her to the room or spot before showing her the money. Be safe out there.

Propilot-Always check your six.

[QUOTE=Cls9637]Picked up Jewelz Saturday around 10 AM at Payson St. 29 YO spinner, pretty face, very small boobs but nice nipples. I like smaller boobs, anyway. Went to the notell for a little R & R and pictures. She told me she was starting to get a little ill, and needed her meds, but she still didn't rush anything. Lots of tongue action and attention to the boys. She said she would usually swallow, just not at this moment. Everything is on the menu she said, except anal, but she didn't really seem to be dead set against that, either. Overall good service and takes direction well. I would repeat, just hopefully she will not be getting ill next time.[/QUOTE]That is scabies Jewelz. Picked her up few months ago. Arms were festering. Not sure if scabies or worst. Cute face, rotten coochie. Tries to please. Looks cute from a distance. cheap rates. Would not repeat.

[QUOTE=Lombardo]That is scabies Jewelz. Picked her up few months ago. Arms were festering. Not sure if scabies or worst. Cute face, rotten coochie. Tries to please. Looks cute from a distance. Cheap rates. Would not repeat.[/QUOTE]I went out with her about six months ago and she was fine. Saw her two weeks ago, noticed her arms were a mess. Asked her what it was, she said something about the street drugs were causing it, a lot of girls are like this. I gave her an Abe for her time and told her maybe some other time. It's a shame because she is a pleasant person and a decent provider.

I spent some quality time with my regular lady this weekend in a nice suburban motel. Between acts she watched mesmerized a CSI type show where worms were taken out of a street girl, a mental case who had basically fed them into holes she had created in her body (not those holes!).
Made me think of our sweethearts on Baltimore streets. They wouldn't be that fucked up, would they?

[QUOTE=Kulli]I spent some quality time with my regular lady this weekend in a nice suburban motel. Between acts she watched mesmerized a CSI type show where worms were taken out of a street girl, a mental case who had basically fed them into holes she had created in her body (not those holes!).

Made me think of our sweethearts on Baltimore streets. They wouldn't be that fucked up, would they?[/QUOTE]I once saw a SW remove a one-eyed wonder worm from her body, but I doubt if they would show that on CSI.

While I was around the WW loop Saturday I saw Cash-n-Carrie out around the circle and up as far as Monroe, and over around Cole St. Tried to wave me down, got laughter instead.

[QUOTE=Lombardo]That is scabies Jewelz. Picked her up few months ago. Arms were festering. Not sure if scabies or worst. Cute face, rotten coochie. Tries to please. Looks cute from a distance. cheap rates. Would not repeat.[/QUOTE]Dude chill out its Bmore,if you have a problem man up and post your own pictures so we can find out whats wrong with your wife..

[QUOTE=Super John]Dude chill out its Bmore,if you have a problem man up and post your own pictures so we can find out whats wrong with your wife..[/QUOTE]In all your 5 posts, there is not one single encounter with a SW. For someone on the sidelines, just shut up. The $20 tuition fee would only get you SW with skin conditions and stink bombs, as init he case of Heather and Jewelz. It is just good information to post to warn selective mongers who could be turned off by somethign like this. Yes it is B'more, and that is what $20 gets.

Nice find and pics.

I haven't been mongering in a while.

Makes me want to make a trip to B'more soon

[QUOTE=Cls9637]Picked up Jewelz Saturday around 10 AM at Payson St. 29 YO spinner, pretty face, very small boobs but nice nipples. I like smaller boobs, anyway. Went to the notell for a little R & R and pictures. She told me she was starting to get a little ill, and needed her meds, but she still didn't rush anything. Lots of tongue action and attention to the boys. She said she would usually swallow, just not at this moment. Everything is on the menu she said, except anal, but she didn't really seem to be dead set against that, either. Overall good service and takes direction well. I would repeat, just hopefully she will not be getting ill next time.[/QUOTE]

Is it safer to pick up a SW round Baltimore st or ww. It looks like the le around Baltimore st just be riding around not looking for anything while around ww I kept seeing le lurking everywhere. I been around both areas two day's straight to try to scope the scene out and look for some prospects. And how should I approach the SW to let them know I'm serious. I have a young face and a couple SW didn't think that I was serious.

Picked up Holly in Cb sunday evening hoping to sample her FS skills but she has a couple big boils on her butt and hip. Looks like staph to me, you guys may want to avoid for a while. She told me about them before we negotiated, so i went with a CBJ for standard rate plus tip. great personality decent Bj but i was in a hurry to finish so i could disinfect myself and my seats.

I have been on and off this forum for a few years and on and off trolling for about the same time, I have posted some, but I always feel as though I'm burning the favorite spots and women. When you all post the women's pictures I for one appreciate it, but are we burning the women by doing that?

I'm referring to the LE and anti prostitution a-holes who use this site to counteract our hobby.

[QUOTE=Srlrtr04]Is it safer to pick up a SW round Baltimore st or ww. It looks like the le around Baltimore st just be riding around not looking for anything while around ww I kept seeing le lurking everywhere. I been around both areas two day's straight to try to scope the scene out and look for some prospects. And how should I approach the SW to let them know I'm serious. I have a young face and a couple SW didn't think that I was serious.[/QUOTE]First thing you do, is RTFF. First thing you learn, no where is safe.

Oriole

Does anyone know what happened in Hampden (corner of 36th and Hickory) last night around 10: 30 pm?

I saw about 6-7 girls participating in what seemed to be a group/gang cat fight-hair-pulling, slapping, girls on the ground rolling with shirts pulled up. One girl was pretty good making solid contacts as she punched away at another girl several times on the face while all the boys (4-5 of them) were just watching (maybe even encouraging the fight).

The cool thing is that most of the girls (all white) seem pretty young (in late teens) and hot. It was wild, lasted pretty long, at least for about 5-10 min. Definitely a great Kodak, scratch that I am not that old, Youtube moment. Wish I was able record it but it was too dark. Not sure if any of them was SW, probably not.

I am not sure why, but I think I am falling in love with Hampden!

Eggroll

OMG! I do not know where to start.

Seen Lauren on Patapsco, her face didn't appeal to me she looked like she hadn't gotten sleep in days, but she has great oral skills, never disapoints, deep throat expert and always swallows. Standard fee given for her advice and time but this event felt a bit mechanical for her service. She is better than 99 percent of the SW who give oral treats even if it was a bit mechanical .

Met a little lady on Saturday, on Patapsco, in front of the Salvation Army thrift store, she was a tall,lean brunette with short hair kind of a punk rock look. Went to the action spot, contributed the standard fee to her favorite charity. She blessed me with FS and I was impressed with her RIDING skills.

[QUOTE=Lombardo]In all your 5 posts, there is not one single encounter with a SW. For someone on the sidelines, just shut up. The $20 tuition fee would only get you SW with skin conditions and stink bombs, as init he case of Heather and Jewelz. It is just good information to post to warn selective mongers who could be turned off by somethign like this. Yes it is B'more, and that is what $20 gets.[/QUOTE]

All I see from you are a lot of derogatory comments about other posts and forum members. You never have anything constructive to add to the forum. Where are your pictures and reviews? You should probably attempt to actually contribute something before making negative comments about everyone else. Then maybe someone will take you seriously. Until then, no one does. By the way, how are things going with the case against you for raping Bridgette?

What's good gentlemen been sightseeing again and here's what I saw. It was early I just taken the kids to school on my way to workout and as usual had to take a tour of the loop. Saw Tammy at the circle she came to my ride told me she was ill and needed a few dollars,could'nt help her out funds were low. Ran into Darlene we chatted it up for a good while. Things with her are cool she told me she has kicked the h habit had to come fill some papers out and is getting right back out of Bmore. I said that's cool I wish you luck tried to get a freebie no happenings today, I was cool with it though. Next I see "ruff face Renee" damn she looks worse than the last time I saw her talked with her she gave me the scoop on why the lights have been out on Wilkins by Monroe. The neighbors have been complaining about the SW's and dealers so five-o turns the lights out sit and watch and then grab people, she said they just recently did a sweep and that's why things have been a little dry. Asked me if I could take her up the street to meet someone I told her as long as you are not buying stuff it's ok. She said she was meeting her "friend" a guy who checks out the area for her so she can handle her business. Okay sounds like a pimp to me. After that saw care-bear she talked with me tried to hit me up for a few bills which I did'nt have. asked me could I ride her up the street told her the same thing no buying stuff she said just picking up some money. After dropping care-bear off near Wilkins spotted this Blonde young looking girl had a few tat's on her 2 on her neck. As I was at the stop sign did the what's your name? she told me Tiffany she was about to open the door when I locked it I'm not quite sure but I think someone reported that a Tiffany was ripping people off, passed. Now at the end of the tour today I see a dude that I grew up with he saw me getting ready to cross Wilkins he pulled over we talked then he just came out and said "Damn it's a few lookers out here today I think I'm going to get my dick sucked. I was like okay do you then I came out and said I dip around a little. So gentlemen here's my question Have you ever came across a close friend of yours mongering and if you saw him what would you do or say?

[QUOTE=SirDrDunk]What's good gentlemen been sightseeing again and here's what I saw. It was early I just taken the kids to school on my way to workout and as usual had to take a tour of the loop. Saw Tammy at the circle she came to my ride told me she was ill and needed a few dollars,could'nt help her out funds were low. Ran into Darlene we chatted it up for a good while. Things with her are cool she told me she has kicked the h habit had to come fill some papers out and is getting right back out of Bmore. I said that's cool I wish you luck tried to get a freebie no happenings today, I was cool with it though. Next I see "ruff face Renee" damn she looks worse than the last time I saw her talked with her she gave me the scoop on why the lights have been out on Wilkins by Monroe. The neighbors have been complaining about the SW's and dealers so five-o turns the lights out sit and watch and then grab people, she said they just recently did a sweep and that's why things have been a little dry. Asked me if I could take her up the street to meet someone I told her as long as you are not buying stuff it's ok. She said she was meeting her "friend" a guy who checks out the area for her so she can handle her business. Okay sounds like a pimp to me. After that saw care-bear she talked with me tried to hit me up for a few bills which I did'nt have. asked me could I ride her up the street told her the same thing no buying stuff she said just picking up some money. After dropping care-bear off near Wilkins spotted this Blonde young looking girl had a few tat's on her 2 on her neck. As I was at the stop sign did the what's your name? she told me Tiffany she was about to open the door when I locked it I'm not quite sure but I think someone reported that a Tiffany was ripping people off, passed. Now at the end of the tour today I see a dude that I grew up with he saw me getting ready to cross Wilkins he pulled over we talked then he just came out and said "Damn it's a few lookers out here today I think I'm going to get my dick sucked. I was like okay do you then I came out and said I dip around a little. So gentlemen here's my question Have you ever came across a close friend of yours mongering and if you saw him what would you do or say?[/QUOTE]Yes. He called me on my cell we chatted a bit. Hung up. Then about two minutes later he called back and said meet me at the park and ride at 195 and 95 so I drove down there. He had a nice looking brunnette, with a great personality, in his van. For a nominal fee, we took turns inside the van with her. It was awkward, unusual at first as I, k at that time, kept my mongering private, but what the hell we were both doing the AMP thing (we had run into each other at an AMP before (he saw my car)). That SW, it turned out, was really sweet. Married to a cop in Harford County (on the rocks though he would try to get her back from time to time), and a former elementary shcool teacher. SHe gave great head and was around for years. Then simply droppped off the radar.

My buddy and I subse.

[QUOTE=SirDrDunk]What's good gentlemen been sightseeing again and here's what I saw. It was early I just taken the kids to school on my way to workout and as usual had to take a tour of the loop. Saw Tammy at the circle she came to my ride told me she was ill and needed a few dollars,could'nt help her out funds were low. Ran into Darlene we chatted it up for a good while. Things with her are cool she told me she has kicked the h habit had to come fill some papers out and is getting right back out of Bmore. I said that's cool I wish you luck tried to get a freebie no happenings today, I was cool with it though. Next I see "ruff face Renee" damn she looks worse than the last time I saw her talked with her she gave me the scoop on why the lights have been out on Wilkins by Monroe. The neighbors have been complaining about the SW's and dealers so five-o turns the lights out sit and watch and then grab people, she said they just recently did a sweep and that's why things have been a little dry. Asked me if I could take her up the street to meet someone I told her as long as you are not buying stuff it's ok. She said she was meeting her "friend" a guy who checks out the area for her so she can handle her business. Okay sounds like a pimp to me. After that saw care-bear she talked with me tried to hit me up for a few bills which I did'nt have. asked me could I ride her up the street told her the same thing no buying stuff she said just picking up some money. After dropping care-bear off near Wilkins spotted this Blonde young looking girl had a few tat's on her 2 on her neck. As I was at the stop sign did the what's your name? she told me Tiffany she was about to open the door when I locked it I'm not quite sure but I think someone reported that a Tiffany was ripping people off, passed. Now at the end of the tour today I see a dude that I grew up with he saw me getting ready to cross Wilkins he pulled over we talked then he just came out and said "Damn it's a few lookers out here today I think I'm going to get my dick sucked. I was like okay do you then I came out and said I dip around a little. So gentlemen here's my question Have you ever came across a close friend of yours mongering and if you saw him what would you do or say?[/QUOTE]Yes. He called me on my cell we chatted a bit. Hung up. Then about two minutes later he called back and said meet me at the park and ride at 195 and 95 so I drove down there. He had a nice looking brunnette, with a great personality, in his van. For a nominal fee, we took turns inside the van with her. It was awkward, unusual at first as I, k at that time, kept my mongering private, but what the hell we were both doing the AMP thing (we had run into each other at an AMP before (he saw my car)). That SW, it turned out, was really sweet. Married to a cop in Harford County (on the rocks though he would try to get her back from time to time), and a former elementary shcool teacher. SHe gave great head and was around for years. Then simply droppped off the radar.

NOt a big deal frankly having a buddy to watch your back on the loop. Which we did for each other when we were out cruising at the same time (in different vehicles of course).

[QUOTE=SirDrDunk] So gentlemen here's my question Have you ever came across a close friend of yours mongering and if you saw him what would you do or say?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I ran into my brother-in-law who was walking the infamous block outside the strip clubs. I was driving my Chevy Blazer truck at the time. He looked right at me , and no doubt recognized me but I kept looking and driving straight ahead while wearing my sun glasses and never acknowledged his look. I saw him a few weeks later at a family function and nothing was said so I let it drop. Nothing was ever mentioned since then, but I know he saw me. I could have cared less since the guy is a complete dick head, regardless the fact I was married to his sister at the time. My best advice is to keep quiet and not bring it up unless the other person does. He is probably just as embarrassed as you and would prefer to remain silent. BBB

Your bro-in-law was probably just doing business at the municipal office building across from The Block.

I was crusing down Crain Hwy in GB around 9pm the other night going home from work when I spoted a wsw!!! Looking good and a 10+ on the sw scale. She said her name was Jody and she just got released from the comishinor. I asked where are you going and she said the light rail but needed a dollar for a beer and asked if I could take her first to the liquor store.

After that we started talking more about what she got locked up for...I asked if she was a sw and she said yes. I asked where do you work and she said in Laurel around Whisky Bottom. Instead of taking her to the light rail we agreed that I would give her a ride back to Laurel. Her skills were a 5 and very rushed and kept asking for more money. (before, during and after)

She is about 48 (looks younger) with a tight body. Blonde hair. About 115# and very clean. She loves beer, weed and pcp.

Would not repete!

[QUOTE=Clix]Yes. He called me on my cell we chatted a bit. Hung up. Then about two minutes later he called back and said meet me at the park and ride at 195 and 95 so I drove down there. He had a nice looking brunnette, with a great personality, in his van. For a nominal fee, we took turns inside the van with her. It was awkward, unusual at first as I, k at that time, kept my mongering private, but what the hell we were both doing the AMP thing (we had run into each other at an AMP before (he saw my car)). That SW, it turned out, was really sweet. Married to a cop in Harford County (on the rocks though he would try to get her back from time to time), and a former elementary shcool teacher. SHe gave great head and was around for years. Then simply droppped off the radar.

My buddy and I subse.[/QUOTE]

Fuck man, how'd you get your old screen name back?

[QUOTE=Baltimonger]Fuck man, how'd you get your old screen name back?[/QUOTE]I did not even notice that I got it back....that is weird....I guess out of habit I entered my old screen name and entered the right pw(by luck, truly since I could not remember it consciously!) Damn thing is if forced to log back on again, I may end up as Clixxx again since I truly cant remember all these damn passwords for some many sites.

Thanks for pointing that out!

Monger on,

clix

[QUOTE=Dirk Manly]I have been on and off this forum for a few years and on and off trolling for about the same time, I have posted some, but I always feel as though I'm burning the favorite spots and women. When you all post the women's pictures I for one appreciate it, but are we burning the women by doing that?

I'm referring to the LE and anti prostitution a-holes who use this site to counteract our hobby.[/QUOTE]LE isn't stupid. No One needs a pic to identify a woman as a SW. We need pics so we can identify the good provider from the bad. A general description of what stroll or neighboorhood is helpfull. That is PP, CB, WW. Specific corners are not.

This is for the a hole who dated Tiffaney tonight. Its hard enough getting these girls to have some trust when dating, than to do what you did. She went with you to your spot at the park & gave you what you wanted for a date. You think is is cool to leave her there and not even pay her. I hope to see you around the WW loop because I know what you look like & what you drive. I promise you I will call LE and tell them you are carrying drugs just to watch them have you on the street & rip your shit apart. If you happen to have anything ilegal all the better. That girl didnt deserve what you did. This girl isnt any different than the rest out there just trying to get by. Bargin for what you want, but treat them decent & pay them. Its just makes it harder for everybody.

I swa a girl by the bus stop on Harford Road by the Advanced Auto Parts. She was white had long hair and had a pink shirt. I saw her a few days ago I was wondering if anyone has any info on her.

[QUOTE=Luke Warm69]OMG! I do not know where to start.[/QUOTE]Where/how did you find her? Is she back for a while or? We need details

Had a wonderful time. I will repeat.

Before I use my sideline season tickets for the game, I decided to get my play time in. Met up with Erin, slim, very nice personality. Rook posted about her -
[url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1056336&postcount=5073[/url]
Drove to my spot, regular tuition. Nice slim body, nice c cups. Received a bbbjtcws, which was one of the best ever. No rush, no attitude, very pleasant. Asked for ###'s, but her phone is broken. Arranged to meet another day, as I will definately repeat. Guys, treat her extra nice, as she is a gem with a wonderful, positive personality.

Ricky

Isn't technology great (I can report from the game)?

[QUOTE=Daddy69]my girl friend . . . .
i'm glad you had a nice treat . . . .
i just spoke to her about that . . . .
i found her at the loop around 5pm[/QUOTE]Oops!!!!!
Well, c’est la vie.

Ricky

Vanessa - Russian chick. More interested in overcharging and giving a lousy HJ than actual service. Thinks a lot of herself. Yes she has HUGE boobs, but they are actually hairy (no joke) and her implants are hard as rocks. AVOID. She walks on Baltimore from Linwood all the way to Patterson Park Avenue. Often stoop sits. Claims she parks her car on Broadway. I have seen her waliknf from that direction, so it may be true.

Stephanie - Probably decent a few (weeks, months years?) ago. Body is just destroyed. Not only more tracks than the B&O, but scars, blisters, boils. Just a total turn off. I was afraid to touch any part of her. RUN away.

Nothing else to report. Just crap in PP/C right now.

Dr. Monger

[QUOTE=Dr.Monger]Vanessa - Russian chick. More interested in overcharging and giving a lousy HJ than actual service. Thinks a lot of herself. Yes she has HUGE boobs, but they are actually hairy (no joke) and her implants are hard as rocks. AVOID. She walks on Baltimore from Linwood all the way to Patterson Park Avenue. Often stoop sits. Claims she parks her car on Broadway. I have seen her waliknf from that direction, so it may be true.

Stephanie - Probably decent a few (weeks, months years?) ago. Body is just destroyed. Not only more tracks than the B&O, but scars, blisters, boils. Just a total turn off. I was afraid to touch any part of her. RUN away.

Nothing else to report. Just crap in PP/C right now.

Dr. Monger[/QUOTE]

I was cruising Friday night and saw something I never saw before in East Baltimore - two bright, young, shiny police officers in full uniform standing on the SE corner of Conkling and Baltimore Sts. On Fairhaven in CB, this wouldn't have surprised me.

Rapid