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Zero,

My experience with city vibe, erosguide, and lovings.com are that the prices start at $250/hour and go up to $600/hr for SF providers. Average is probably $300-350. MBOT (Mitchel Brothers O'Farrel Theatre) will cost about the average above but you'll get stuck in a cramped booth.

Your best bet for non-asian, in my opinion, is to grab the yellow pages, call some MPs and ask if there are any latina or black providers working that night. A few years ago I used to see my favorite latin girl at Sophias on Geary. Her name was Romi and unfortunately, she's long gone.

I'll second Maltrufio's comments below, except my personal experience at MBOT was on the high end (200~300 for CBJ and 500~700 for FS). But it's all negotiable between you and the gal. Have fun!

Guys Guys!, your figures are almost out of reach for most of the readers here, do you have that deep of pockets? I suggest if you want to have an above average time, go over to the holiday Inn in china town. You'll find a line of limos that cater to the chinese, but the drivers are well diverse in helping you find what you need. Use them for an hour tour, and ask them for the "2nd floor" places. These places are AMP, open only to the asians and can only be entered by your drivers recommendation. He'll bring you to a couple places, converse in chinese and walk you in and pick you up. There are much more places not listed here, that they go personally, and you'll be surprised at how many girls work in these little places downtown. Don't spend 6 bills, you can enjoy yourself with a couple bills, pocket the rest for two more nights of fun.

Be safe

zzkenoman,

First off, I don't have a pocket as deep as it may seem. Like I said 6 posts ago, MBOT is considered "luxury" on my book. I only visit it a few times a year. Places I frequent most are store-front AMPs and AAMPs and I've never paid more than two bills in those places. So don't count me out bro. I was just giving my two cents to a visitor to our wonderful town.

Now your post got me intrigued. Are you saying limo plus AMP all inclusive at $$? That sounds a real good deal. How are those "little places" set up? Different from store-front AMPs say Kings or GF? Are the girls mostly Chinese, Korean or others? This is a never-heard-of to me (and probably to many other bros' too since it's not been mentioned on this board). So please shed more light.

Happy AMPing,
JZ

I am familar with the exclusive AMP hidden to the public and for the chinese only. You pay the girl from $300 to $500 dollars. Yes some limo drivers know but you must tip them $100 not including what you must pay the limo by the hour. You can get the same type girl in Goldflower for $200 total.

Guys,

With all due respect...

Just visiting from the Los Angeles boards, but these prices seem way out of line.

Are these model types with absolute full GFE? Otherwise, for this kind of money you have other options, including "real" girls.

I'm not saying mess with the street girls. There has to be a middle ground, even in San Francisco.

Well, here's my survey ---

For 500~700 (again it's negotiable), you get FS from a top-notch model-type blond hottie at MBOT (no guarante of GFE);

For 200~500, FS from an independant escort. The higher you pay, better look of the girl and better chance of GFE. At 350~500, GFE almost guranteed.

For 150~200, FS at AMP/AAMP. Looks of providers vary from 8~9 (Golden Flowers) to 6~8 (King's and Lee's). No guarante of GFE; but it's more likely to happen at King's and Lee's than GF.

For 50~150, HJ, BJ, FS from SW's. YMMV.

Does this sound fair?

I have not been to GF but I agree that at King's you are pretty much guaranteed a pretty damn good session. Ever since it was Goldfinga I only had one mediocre experience with all the rest being quite good.

tocsin,

In terms of service, King's is probably the best among SF AMPs. GF has a larger facility and can thus host more girls. On an average night, there are 20~30 working gals. Most of them are true eye candies in their early 20's. But the service is often rushed. Midway between GF and King's is Lee's: fair service, good mix of younger and older providers, and okay facilities (at least each room has its own shower fountain).

JZ

ChiMan,

I understand that a tourist may pay $100 for a tip, but it is not mandatory to give to the driver. And as far as your quotes from 3-5bills is also incorrect, I think you may have the wrong limo company. Remember there are many independent drivers out there, and they may have in thier book only 1 or 2 possible places or names to call upon and may have already a "agreement" to milk the tourist. If you are local, or not, you must let them know and tell them you dont have money to burn. I'm sure they will still find a good to acceptable place or girl.

JoeZ:
If you find the right location (mentioned in my past post) these drivers know these establishments because it is a regular entertainment for them. They'll drive you to places called the "2nd floor", where they park the car, walk you to the door, someone behind a gate asks who they are, the driver talks chinese or korean, the door gets buzzed and you walk up the stairs. After which you are led to a room with long bench seating with approx 5-10 girls. You sign in, pick the girl, she walks you to the door and usually starts with the standard massage for about 15-30min. After which you can negotiate your pleasure. When your done, your driver picks you up and brings you back to your destination. I have never paid more than $50 for the fee up front, and $120 for FS. As far as the driver, $75 to $100 is acceptable, although if you get in the wrong car, they will charge you company rates. i.e. $65.00 per hour, 3 hour min. The key is the independent limo driver looking for cash, and have there own car.

Another unknown place not listed here is in korea town. I'll have to pull up the city streets to get my bearings, but I know there are aprox 3 places, the girls drink with you at this karoke bar, and have private rooms. There is also a place on El Camino in milbrea with the same type of karoke place with private rooms which I have enjoyed company and service, but be aware that you'll have to put out $$ for drinks, and the girls all drink alot!

Be save

20-30 girls! Wow. I gotta check it out the next time I am in SF.

Mr. Tall

The pricing in SF is quite high compared to LA. It is in line with the typical costs in Honolulu too.

The talent in SF is good, and can be great. If you wish to play in SF, then you gotta suck it up and pay the gonig rates, if not, not.

I have looked forward to being able to get up to the city to partake once or twice. The experience is different than my usual LA or Oxnard experience.

Happy Hunting

Gentlemen,

I think the issue is if you have the money to burn then go for it!
Pay all you want! But from my experience and IMHO it seems paying a driver along with a tip to take you to a place thats going to get you pretty much the same as a good AMP for much less does not make alot of sense to me.

I believe the majority of people to read this forum is your average joe, middle income! and reading this forum give you pretty much an idea where to go and how to go! Why pay the driver!
The extra money you save you could get the GFE with XXXX
at a AMP.

But if you can hire a driver and take you around I guess it does not matter! But if you made your money as a business man,
then it does not make business sense.

LBM

Guys,

I just moved up to SF from the Southbay in Los Angeles. There are 3 Accupuncture / Accupressure establishments that I used to frequent regularly. They were all Chinese run and provided a very good massage with HJ finish. At two of them, I was actually able to get FS after several visits. HJ was an extra .4 and FS was $100. I now work downtown SF. Are there any establishments like this nearby? I have visited GF and got a very rushed session with a hottie named Peggy. Now I would like to see if I can get a decent massage.

Thanks!

Zzkenoman,

Are you talking about the Korean hostess bars, where they squeeze you for drinks? I once spent a few hours trying to get something out of a girl at one of those places, but it never went anywhere. She kept telling me she could sit with me in a private room for $70, but I wouldn't take the bait. This was at a place called "Episode" at Geary and Larkin, which has since moved.

Later on a friend of a friend got a job in one of those places, and from knowing her type it wasn't an FS type place. However, I found out the trick they use to get you to keep buying them drinks: they take a sip from the drink, and then spit the drink out through a straw into the "coke" which they always have on the side. The coke gets fuller as the night goes on.

Hi everyone,

Had a good and bad experience tonight at the MSC

I went to MSC for the first time tonight, entering with some trepidation having read through all the warnings on this site about being ripped off, so I sat myself down to watch the show, telling all the girls who came to sit down beside me that I was watching the Japanese porn video (true too!).

I knew how lapdances worked, and had some idea of prices in the back, but didn't really understand the system.

Finally a large black woman from the Caribbean came up to me, and started grabbing me through my pants, at which point my 'little brain' took over, and I agreed to $60 for FS or $40 for BBBJ, even though my big brain knew it was too good to be true. We went to the back, and I paid my $10 entrance fee. I had told her I had been there many times, but I guess when I tried to take a right instead of going straight up the left after getting my ticket (and after not taking the ticket from the guy on the right and handing it to the guy on the left), she knew I was a newbie. We got to the booth in the back, and asked me for $20 for the booth. I was nervous the whole time about getting ripped off, so I seemed nervous and rushed, as if I was hurrying her to get to the action. I gave her the money, but after she put it in the machine, the light didn't go on. She went out to call for an assistant, who came and together they spent about 1 minute fixing the light bulb. By then about $12 remained in the booth meter (I found out later the booth meter doesn't really matter at all, some girls don't even put money in I was told by a nice blonde stripper who explained the system to me after). I started accusing her of going slow. Then she whips out tissue paper and disinfectant and starts cleaning the booth where I'm supposed to sit, saying that there could be germs there. Is this normal?? By the time I was sitting there with my pants down, about $5 was on the meter. I was sure I'd have to put more in. Then she asked for the $40, which I gave her. She put on a condom, and started sucking for about 15 seconds. Then she asked for another $20. I decided I wasn't gonna get ripped off, and said no. She finally agreed to $10, but I said I'd give her afterwards. Meanwhile, she was putting lotion on my penis, tempting me some more. The meter had run out, but it didn't seem to matter. Finally we both said forget it at about the same time. She started mumbling about how I was dirty and probably had AIDS, how did I expect a BBBJ for $40, etc. Looking back, I don't know how or if she was intending to rip me off, or if she got put off by my distrustful attitude.

I went back to the large theatre, and found the blond girl I mentioned who explained it was $10 to go in the back, and usually $20 for the booth, though some girls didn't ask for that, including her. She told me that money didn't exactly go to the girls, but went towards some kind of quota system. I twasn't mandatory to put money in the meter.

Finally I located a black girl I liked. She just finished fighting with a customer, and I asked her what it was about. She said she offered the guy a free sample in the back, and he wanted to take it in the lap dance area. Afterwards, he refused to pay, but she said that it was just a straight lap dance, the free sample only took place in the back. I told her I never heard about a free sample, she said it means she strips down to show her goods, then the customer can decide what he wants. I protested that it costs $10 each time to go to the back (the ticket guy at the back told me that!), she said that with my stamp I can go in and out after paying once. She took me back there, and sure enough I got through without paying since they recognized me and checked my stamp. Really strange, since I got that stamp when I paid $20 to enter MSC, not when I paid $10 to access the back area.

Anyways, before going in a booth, I said I didn't have much money, and she said $60 for a BJ was OK. I offered $50, and she agreed. We go in the back, and I give her the money, plus $2 for a condom. She had an excellent attitude, and put a lot of effort into the CBJ, although I had drank alcohol (my excuse for letting my little head take over this evening, for those of you wondering how I could get take so easily!) and wasn't easy to arouse. She would have finished me off with her mouth, but she gave me the feeling that she actually liked me and wanted more. After about 5 minutes she asekd if I wanted sex, I said I didn't have much money. She asked me how much I had, I said only $30. She said OK, so I gave her the $30. She then continued the CBJ, and I was about to cum, so I said 'stop stop stop'. She anticipated my lack of control, and quickly turned around and said hurry get in. I tried, but came before I could enter her. I entered her anyways, and tried what I could. Afterwards she told me her name was Destiny, and that she really enjoyed the penetration, and that I could come back anytime for the same money ($80) and we could do oral, FS, Greek, anything I wanted. I'm pretty sure I could go back with less than $80 and she'd be fine. Definite good vibes there, and I could definitely go back to her next time when I'm sober and physically more prepared. With the entrance fees, the total would be $110 maximum for FS and maybe more.

OK, hope I don't sound like total idiot from the first part, I can't believe I got taken in after going in the theatre prepared. Thinking about getting ripped off took away from my enjoyment of the evening, and possibly even led to my getting ripped off. I learned something about human nature tonight, at least my own! Need to stay cool.

Cheers,

Sky Muffin

Skymuffin,

I used to get around to MSC about twice a month when I lived in SF. Things have changed, and so have the girls, but the first girl sounds freakily like one I met back when. Did she have a high-pitched Jamaican accent?

The girl I'm talking about, bizarro of bizarros, pulled out a surgical glove to use as a rubber and cracked open a really strong medicinal kind of lotion as a lube. I took one look and whiff (mentholated fumes filled the booth, holy shit) and slammed it in reverse, veering over for the less-nasty of the two Nasty Mimis (one C for FS at the time, small Filipina of above-average looks).

It sounds like Whitney Ferris and all the other hot ones skip MSC nowadays. My own favorite trick was FS with the headline act just after her dance--if it wasn't for crazy money.

BTW, is Really Nasty Mimi still there? You would've seen her: always-naken asian often found standing and eating a pizza slice by the entrance to Sin City. Looks Vietnamese but is actuall Filipina. Dragon-lady, painted-on eyebrows and eyeliner. Gawd help us all.

Are there really sw on Filmore street? Because I saw that movie the American Pimp and I wanna know if its true.

HEy guys do you have any info on CEO on Bush street!

Triple X,

Ceo on Bush street is definately full service. I went there once and they wanted $200 for FS. I just laughed at her. Gave her $40 for a HJ. The girls there are nothing special but I haven't been there for a year.

CEO is a TAMP. You should get a pretty good massage in this place. HJ is the most you can get in the happy ending part. Fee will be .4 or .5 per hour (not sure) and tip of .4 for happy ending otherwise just .1 or .2 tip if the legit part is enjoyable.

Sky Muffin,

From your description, sounds like you ran into the infamous Cappucino. BBW, carrying a bag full of TP, disinfectant, etc., extremely aggressive. If you had checked this board and others, probably would have been warned off.

Way back before she became famous, I ran into Cappucino at the "old" New Century. She offered to give me a tour of the back booths. When we were back there and I didn't take her up on any of her offers, she literally kicked me in the ass!

Hey Velcro:

I was in SF in the summer at MSC and ran across the chick you're describing (looked Vietnamese to me)- the drawn on eyebrows were a dead giveaway. Kind of aging woman, but looks good for her age- really freakin crass too, mouth like a sailor. She caught me so off guard, I couldn't help but start laughing and this made her go off even more. I almost went for that, but saw some young talent around that I went for instead.

I didn't have a bad experience there and it was my first time there. The whole "free lapdance" stuff is a total scam- went downstairs, paid the $10 and then the girl went crazy and invited a friend. I said no way and bailed. My friend wasn't so lucky and got caught paying $80 for nothing (dont ask me). I sat in the dark like a pervert and picked the one I wanted- small, hot asian with a dynamite body and then later some filipino girl who had even a better body. The whole experience blew me away.

Im sure its a place where people get ripped all the time. Use your head, be smart and you'll be ok.

Be safe

GOON

Hi guys,
Thank for the info through this wonderful WSG.Iam enjoying my visit in SF.
I went to MBOT the first time I got chance (traveling with friends who doesnt know my side hobby)
It was in the afternoon around 1 O'Clock. For me, the place was quite nice and medium size.
The girls as this forum had tell me, was great. They are all in the 7-9, one stunner 10 I believe her name is Tracy.
Too bad I didn't got a chance to meet her up close and personal, she is always go backstage after her perfomance.
Went to one of the room that you stand in the booth while the girls is dancing.
Got an offer from two stunning blondes, Channel and I forgot the other, Anyway they are beautiful and grinding me intensely.
They offer me $200 for CBJ ( Idon't know if this is a good price or not, having visit this establisment once)
So we all got naked in the private booth, and one start to play with herself while Channel give me a decent BJ.
It was a great view to see this 2 pretty blondes after me, and they should won an oscar for pretending to like me too.
All an all, the experience was great total damage $220 ( $20 for the room.
I stayed another couple hour enjoying the view and the dance there, where finally I want my finall act there.
There was one girl who is very friendly to me, talk to me all the time, Unfortunatelly I forgot her name, tracy, stacy, I dont know.
She is not a stunner but judging from her attitude, she is going to be great.
Unfortunatelly my expectation was too high. She ask me the private booth standard $100 we all get naked but refuse to give me more than a view.
After calm negotiation she agree that I watch her play herself while I can play with myself.
Wasn't the greatest offer I had but WTH, she is nice.
She also should won and oscar too for the " play with herself and enjoying it every strokoe" Her pandora box was just 2" away from mine. what a view.
Overall, my visit there was quite enjoyable, I gave it an 8.
It was heavy on the money side ( spend almost $400 for many dances and CBJ and myself)
However, I am please with the ambiance of the club and the attitude of the girls.
Next stop AMP, to be continue...

2nd round,
As I notice in this thread, AMP is the way to go.
So I did takes your advice guys, and it was well worthed, Thank you.
I was confuse which one to choose at first, GF? Lee's? or King's?
But it it was Kings that is stand out because the good review and I saw their ad in a newspaper.
Also the location is quite secluded but easy to find.
Upon my arrival, mamasan buzzed me, and proceed to sign in, paid the $50 entrance fee
( could you guys explain to me what this procedur for? never quite figure it out)
I was quite disapointed at first as there were only 3 girls to choose from.
To my surprise mamasan decided to choose for me. Being horny and a bit disoriented, I agree.
Out of the 3 girls, Seven ( i swear it was her name, later she gave me her name card) She was not the stunner.
She was quite tall 5.8" with heel, nice petite body, A full B cup on the brink of C.
Whatever she lack in appearance, she surely make it up in the service.
Usuall bid at first, showering ( sharing with other monger hehehe you guys seem very happy :) )
The massage was great she know how to loose man's sore muscle.
And the turn around, she ask "just massage" I said no, and how much" she said $100, I said Ok, very simple.
Mutual touching and kissing, DFK, and some mediocre CBJ. The technique of inserting the rubber was great though.
She want to hop in right away but I refuse, DATY first i said, she said Ok.
To my surprise she was really wet after That, light fingering also made hear moan, so I must do something right then.
Follow by a very GFE intercourse in various position.
I really enjoy the session with her, she is very genuine and GFE. I recomend her to any of you.
All in all, I gave the "massage" 8.5 - 9 total damage $150.
If I had time and chance I would definetly visit them again later this day. will let you know the outcome later.

Cheers!
PS, I saw a lot of strip joint in Sf such as Century, right next to MBOT, centerfold and de javu in broadway, how come no report I could find here,
Are they that bad? also I cruise O'farrel, california, hyde, at 10pm but no visible street action, any lead?

Hi to all,

I read couple of SF review and saw MBOT. Would you guy please let me what is MBOt stands for?

Thank you,

Chicago

Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theater (on O'Farrell @ Polk Street). Most upscale club in town offering "extras". A Legendary stripjoint which was one of the first fully nude clubs in US. Google the name to find their website. You have NEVER seen ANYTHING like it in Chicagoland (with Boston the WORST place in USA which is REALLY saying something as this country is the pits for p4p!), TRUST ME.

Seems only outoftowners posting here. Crazy Mimi (Of MSC fame) is Taiwanese, not Filipina. There is a SAn Francisco only board with WAY more detailed info, but I am not sure if Jackson allows posting of links to other websites so this might get deleted but it is called sfredbook.

Sorry for the delay of this post as this happened on January 7.

This is my annual trip to San Francisco for MacWorld.

I checked out the board before I came to town and got some good info, thanks. But after looking at all of the options I decided to stay with where I had been before and had always had a great time. I was going to stick with Kings.

After I checked into the hotel I called Sherry, I saw her last year at Kings and she gave me her cell, but there was no answer so I left a message for her with the my hotel number.

I was tired from the trip so I decided I would walk up to Market Street and get a bite to eat and call it a night. While at the Burger King I saw this young blond come in and she walked around talking to everyone like she knew them. She made her way around to me and asked if I had any money. I told her sure I do what have you got in mind. She stopped dead in her tracks, smiled at me and sat down. She said how about 20? I asked for what? She thought for a moment and said how about a BJ. I asked how much for sex? She said how about 50. I told her I was staying at a hotel close by and we could go there and she could take a shower and clean up so how about 40. She said that the shower sounded great and 40 was ok. I finished my burger while she ate my fries and drank my coke then we left for the hotel.

She said her name was Kathy and was from Kansas City. She was 22 years old, about 5ft 6in and I guess about 140lbs, not bad looking and although she wasnÕt strung out she was a crack head.

We got to the hotel and she was really nice and thanked me for the chance to clean up. I handed her a robe and she went into the bathroom and closed the door. When she came out smiling and wearing that robe she looked like a new person as she walked over to me and sat down on the bed. She pulled back the covers and started rubbing until I was hard. She got up, removed the robe, climbed up on the bed, I gave her a condom and she put it on and gave me a very good BJ. When I had enough I stopped her and had her lay on her back and got on top of her. It was nothing great but it was it worked for me at the time. When I finished I rolled off and we laid for a little while. I got up and said something about how late it was and she said she had to go and got up and got dressed. When she was ready to go she gave me a hug and I gave her the 40 and she left.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy...


Excellent work! Instead of paying retail or risking a LE encounter with a sw, you got what you wanted in a safe evironment where you were in control and could get a good look at the girl. And as a bonus, you kept your cool and negotiated her price down in exchange for a shower. Bravo!

You were observant and found a pay for play situation as part of a normal non-cruising routine.

This shows that those of us who cruise the tracks and hit the MPs are only scratching the surface of this hobby. There are girls out there who need the cash and will fuck for it. With a little work a monger can notice them and see what happens.

And this was at a great rate too, which shows that the same service occurs at many different price levels.


BTW, I'm from LA. I was on the Metro subway at 7:30 AM and this girl gets on who basically looked like a crack girl who had been up all night. Tattoos, braless with nips poking out and listening to headphones so loud I could hear them. She was zoned out with that gurgling sniffle I'm beginning to recognize is a side effect of the crack use.

She got on in Hollywood, heading downtown. Probably going back to a cheap hotel crash pad after a night of drugs and sex with the drug providers.

There you go. This would be the kind of girl to approach.

If you have the balls, the deal is to approach them on the street and suggest that they come back to your location.

Bottom feeding, yes. But fun.

Sorry for the delay of this post as this happened on January 8.

This is my annual trip to San Francisco for MacWorld.

So I went any ways. Got there about 8PM, signed in and asked for Sherry but was told she wasnÕt there and was asked to pick someone else. There were maybe 8 to 10 very lovely young ladies to choose from and to tell you the truth I couldn't decide. So I told the lady at the desk that I had a great time last time with Sherry and would she pick one that would give the same great service. She said something Korean and one of the girls got up, walked over to me, took my hand and led me to a room.

Her name was Chanel, from Korea, she was 23, maybe 5ft 4in and about 110 lbs, very cute face, a great body and had been in the states for only three months. She said that she came here to work at Kings and worked every day from noon tell midnight.

She asked if I wanted a shower, I said yes and she undressed me, folded my clothes up, wrapped a towel around me and led me to the shower. She started the water and got it the right temp for me, took the towel off, helped me in the shower, gave me some mouthwash, showed me where the soap was and said she would be back when I was done. When I finished she came in and dried me off, paying special attention to the cheeks of my ass and the little guy, wrapped a towel around me, led me back to the room, took the towel off and helped me to the bed. She said she would be right back, as she had to change her cloths. She was wearing a bikini and I didnÕt understand why she had to change until she came back wearing this little, skin tight dress. My god she looked so hot.

She started right away with the massage by climbing on the bed and sitting on top on me. I reached back and started feeling her calf and then her thigh. Her little dress was now up around her waist, I grabbed her ass and found she was not wearing any underwear so I felt her ass and worked my fingers in to her dark hole. She never stopped me and kind of wiggled around while I managed to get in to the second knuckle. After she had finished massaging my back she turned around and sat on my ass and massaged my legs a little then got off and asked me to turn over. With her standing at the head of the bed she massaged my face and hair then moved to the side and massaged my chest while I felt her legs and ass up to her back. Then she climbed on top of me again with her ass right on top on my very excited member and she wiggled around so it went between her cheeks. She massages my chest while I feel her tits, through the dress, and manage to get my finger all the way inside her nice wet little kitty. She acted like she came a couple of times but you never know and I didnÕt really care because while she was coming she kept moving her ass around on me.
Then she asked me what else I wanted and I told her I wanted full service. She then took off the dress, moved down and put a lid on me, with her mouth, and gave a great BJ. She climbed on top, put it in, lowered herself until it all the way in and then started grinding her pelvis into mine. She was going crazy, and so was I, she acted like she came again and it felt so good to be that deep inside of her. We switched to doggy and she liked that position too. Then, while pounding her and looking at that fine ass of hers, I was thinking how much she seemed to like the ass play before so I pulled out and started to put it in her back door. There was no protest from her so I kept going. Well after I got a couple of inches in she asked me to stop because it hurt her so much. I just stayed there awhile, weighing my options, and decided I would try some more. Well I did manage to get another inch in but she was not enjoying it so I stopped and took it out.

As it turns out that was a really good choice for me because she got up, put her arms around my neck, kissed me hard on the lips and thanked me for stopping saying I was so nice. She lay on her back and opened her legs while pulling my head down for some DATY. She was so sweet and she came again. While I was doing her she kept lifting her ass off the bed giving me access so I thought I would try and see how it went. Little by little I licked my down, she didnÕt stop me, until I had my tongue in her ass. That went so well and she was enjoying it so I rolled her over and up on her knees. I grabbed a cheek with each hand, spread then apart and put my face into that fine ass of hers. I had my tongue in her as far I could get it and she is driving back at me trying to get more. After a few minutes of this she came and this time I could tell it was for real. As she fell forward on the bed I laid on top of her while she was trying to catch her breath.
After she recovered she rolled over on her back and pulled me on top of her as she guided me home. I finished in that position and then we just laid there awhile with her hugging and kissing me while her hands were roaming all over.

She got up and put on her dress and said that she would be right back. When she returned she had a warm damp cloth and used it to clean me up. Then she made me stand there while she got me dressed. When I was dressed I gave her a C note and told her how much I enjoyed our time together, which was about an hour and a half by now, and she was quite happy. Then after some more light kissing and hugging she held my hand and she walked me out.

Hey MrTallOne,

Thanks for the kind words.

Your right, they are out there.

We just need to be aware.

Mike

ReallyNiceGuy,

Awesome post on Kings. IMHO, I found Kings to be the best of the lot (not as many or as cute of providers as in the GF, but much more service oriented), and found my providers to be into ass-play too. To bad I'm back in Philly now!

Dear all,

Please read this:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/7781250.htm

Seems like they are busting down the joint.

Drove around SF streets on Saturday night. Once after 9pm and once after midnight. 9pm was too busy for SWs to be out on the street. After midnight, there were some fine ladies out there. Going rate for FS in room was .6 to .8.

Picked out a Guatemalan girl who was standing in plain sight so I was cautious if she was a cop or not. She got into my wagon and we talked and we gave each other the LE test (genitals groping) and sure she checked out fine. She was quite pretty but seemed to be on drugs and seemed a bit weird. She was insistent on .8 and in the end I was only happy to have dropped her back. to Post and Larkin.

Then picked out a cute, clean Asian girl. She was classy, but asked for .8. Though she was ideal, I was used to Asian GFE at AMPs, so I passed her up and dropped her back.

Did the rounds and driving north on Larkin I came across two very curvy gals. One seemed Hispanic and the other seemed kinda asian-hispanic mix. She really got my attention. I parked and walked by to check them out. Both had a pretty face and a body to die for. They did not seem like cops (not that clean, out-of-place look). Besides they were talking to customers on the street and other ladies out there too. So I walked down and scanned them out. Suddenly, I heard a man joking loudly. I was dismayed when I realized that the voice came from the Hispanic one (who I thought was a chick). Man, they were TV/TS. I was disappointed, shocked and lost all feelings in the sexual department for a while.

Battered by my experience, I headed for an apple juice in a nearby convenience store. Just right then I saw a real cute half-white, half-black chick with a J-Lo behind walk into the store really fast. I was not sure she was a working girl. She seemed to be in a hurry, which further convinced me that she was not looking for johns. I followed her into a convenience store and checked her out. She was a beauty though only about 5' 2". She paid and walked out before I could though our eyes met and I confirmed that she was a SW or a stripper. I paid the cashier and rushed out behind her and pop her the usual question "Wanna take a ride with me?" But by then she was more than half a block away. I did not chase her, but made a mental note of driving up that road and checking her out.

Right then, across the street, two chicks caught my eye. One was mixed black/caucasian chick with another beauty who looked a lot like Paris Hilton. She was dressed quite unusually too: a red top, fur coat, black full-length skirt and believe it or not: a very British hat. She was classy and would never have thought that she could be a SW. She was fully covered and did not care to meet eyes with me. Because she was standing with her friend who was the regular SW, I approached them and started talking. This babe was a model and her legs (ankles) seemed quite thin. She was really shy and did not want to talk, it would seem. Her friend convinced her to go with me (did not force the issue). She joined me and gave her name as Nikki. To cut a long story short, I gave her .6 for the act and .2 as a tip. Funny thing is that she was wearing 3 bras to give her the fuller-chest look. With her clothes on she was looked like a model. She had gray/blue eyes with a lovely face. She was very clean and not your regular ho. She claimed to be a student and worked occasionaly. With her clothes off she was gorgeous.
In the room, she just sat there and did not know her stuff - e.g. asking for advance cash, keeping the rubber ready, etc. She was basically confused and was expecting me to take care of the rituals. I chatted with her, got her into my arms and began kissing her to which she responded positively and then opened up. That was GFE experience there. Not planned or made up, but natural. I told her I would be gentle too and she seemed to relax.

When the action started, she gave lame head. Her pussy very clean and pink, but was not tight (she was drunk, she told me later). She just laid there.

The sex was not good, but the GFE was good. I knew I did not have a pro in my arms. She could easily become a porn star or a stripper, I told her too.

Anyway, we had a good time and I dropped her off. She kissed me, smiled shyly (genuine stuff) and we parted ways.

Regular MSC and AMP patrons, do try to SWs too. Quite some good stuff after midnight. Almost no LE activity too.

MSClive: GREAT post, we need more like this! Glad you heard the male voice on the TV BEFORE getting her/him in your car. ALWAYS consider that possibility in this town, ESPECIALLY near Polk or Larkin.

That was a great report MSClive. Nothing like a fresh girl who is new to the business. Those are the ones I search for.

As for the TVs... look for male features like "adam's apples", male wrists and hands, and the slight difference in the shape of the pelvis.

One tip off is the sw that doesn't want to talk, and goes right to touching your dick.

We have a ton of TVs and transsexuals on Santa Monica blvd down here in Los Angeles.

What is odd is that LE leaves them alone for the most part. I don't want to dwell on that because the reason would probably make me mad.

Greetings from a drained, but very happy guy.

While I appreciate those who seek the best for less, I have to talk about the other end of the scale. On a recent trip, I had the best independent escort ever. A total GFE/PSE.

She met me for dinner at my request since I like to see the goods first. I'm always prepared with a small donation in a card in case they are not to my liking. When I gave her that first, it seemed to set the stage well. Through email she had agreed to dinner at a discount rate, but never actually talked $$ or services - except to note that while she is a vegetarian, that doesn't preclude her eating meat - what an underrstatement.

An exceptionally cute, nicely dressed woman showed up - late 20's early 30's. No where close to "BBW" with the exception of a very large natural rack but not some skinny artificial model. I'm guessing 38DD but I could be wrong and would not want to guess weight, I'm a guy who likes curves but not sumos. Her web pictures are fairly accurate, but she is even better in person.

We had nice dinner, interesting conversation with a few double entendres finishing with "we'll be having desert later".

She gave me a choice of my hotel or her place, she had told me about her dogs, but insisted they would not participate or even be in the room. She seemed to be leaning to my hotel, which was fine with me.

Once in the room, she was all over me, DFK transitioning almost immediately to DT and I do mean deep. I'm not a huge guy but have never had someone totally take me in. Right down to the root and still licking. It escapes me how she could do this. The view of her gorgeous face looking up with her mouth buried in my pubes almost brought me off. We managed to get undressed with the exception of her garter and hose and into bed. I reached down (she was still working real hard on the bbbj) and found she was absolutely soaking and when I eased a finger in, she exploded. If she didn't cum, she should have gotten a golden globe. Combining that with the pulsing and tightness I had to go for the FS, despite the PHENOMENAL bj that she seemed intent on finishing.

It was like she read my mind. "We can go back to that whenever you're ready" she said with a room-brightening smile. The only real sign of a pro came out when she skillfully covered me with the condom in her mouth. We did several positions, again either the best actress or the most orgasmic woman I've known. I couldn't stand it, and pulled away, when true to her word, she peeled off the condom and went all the way down again (and again and again). She sensed when I was exploding and eased up just enough to have me fill her mouth. She continued and continued, milking and sucking until I was totally drained. At that point, I didn't mind that she slipped away without swallowing. I should have asked her why not, but I'm guessing she reserves somethings for her real boyfriends.

With the advancing years, the msog days are history, but not this time!!! She eagerly helped me repeat this scene again, and then one more DT 69 so I wouldn't forget. No swallow 2nd or 3rd time, but, like I said, who cares at that point?

Not a clock watcher either, spending a very nice evening with me. When I slipped the final donation into her purse she was very pleased - I told her to make sure it was right, but she said no matter what, she was sure it was. We were together until she got into the cab, so she was sincere about not counting her fee. If you meet this lady, please don't take advantage. I used the fare structure on her website, assuming what I thought fair for the discounted dinner time. I had budgeted two hours, but we were together well over three. Since she seemed to enjoy it, I thought it was a fair deal.

You can find her as Stephanie or Miss French Kiss on some of the SF area review sites. If you can't, pm me for her website.

Happy trails,

Iron Jack

On Sunday, about 1pm, I was around Folsom and looking for company. I saw 3 WSWs in the area, and the best of them was maybe a 2. The others were 0s (one had a serious scar from her lip to her cheek). I saw the 2 get a ride, and one of the 0s (not scarface) disappeared for a little while then was back. Slim pickings. Where should I spend my time on a weekend afternoon?

Went to Mitchell Brothers. Horrible. There is a considerable talent level there, but way too pricey. Found a beautiful asian with fake tits who wanted $400 for a bj, $200 for a hj. Expensive as hell. What are these chicks thinking? Who's paying for that shit? Save your $$$. MSC is much cheaper or an AMP. Fuck Mitchell Bros.