[QUOTE=SgtPerv]I found these also, she is alright.[/QUOTE]I would say she is the hottest on the CT scale.
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[QUOTE=SgtPerv]I found these also, she is alright.[/QUOTE]I would say she is the hottest on the CT scale.
Although we did stop by for fun, she has no plans to work or play there. She will be back in the area wensday for those that are looking
CT Michelle
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]I would say she is the hottest on the CT scale.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]I would say she is the hottest on the CT scale. [/QUOTE]Her ads stated $$. Over priced for sure. Not trying to raise price by partaking. Too many other option in area.
If we start to pay those prices it will become the norm. Other providers will also want more money.
Tori is alright looking.compared to CT girls she is hot but to other options she is alright.
For that kind of money you have PS and local dancers.
As far as her skill level, I have no idea cause regardless I would nut and a nut is a nut. Let us not agree to the raise in prices. $-$. 2 for a non local at most. She has no real overhead as far as job monthly rent, taxes.
If they do not like it, they can stay away and raise the price in another area. This reminds me of the 2 girls for twice price "bargain".
I love mongering but I also love and need my money.
I was looking through CL today and could not believe what these girls are wanting. Are you guys actually paying the price? I saw girls I would not want to do for free (or with a stolen dick) and they were wanting $$. 5. I saw some for $. 2 which is alright.
Guys we dictate the prices, stop over paying. I do not use CL and after this recent look I will not.
Those providers act like their stuff is gold plated. Even if it was, it is still used for a pump and dump.
I am not going to work all day and give her the money for 1 hour. I am not married to them I am simply paying them to leave when I am done.
Out in Vegas casino girls are wanting $$- $$$ and at ranches $1500. WTF
Tijuana you can have a choice of 100 girls all better than anyone I saw in CL for $60 an hour $30 hh.
Why do these girls think they need Vegas prices with half the looks?
Fools will pay it is why. If we do not pay it they will reduce the price.
They are making it to where it is cheaper to date a woman. After a couple dates you will still have money left over and more than an hour in the sack.
Yes I know most do not want to invest the time and have to listen to them but lets not over value the pay for play. Paying them to leave is getting outrageous.
Quality, quantity and service are all taking a nose dive because guys are overpaying.
You left a few messages and i would like to address this as much as i can, I do agree that some girls are over priced, i know what is in NW IN and i know that there is not very much in the way of quality, after all thats why i do so well there. If you dont think a girl is worth it then dont go see her, but i can say to many girls running adds on different sites to have lower rates till you want more then a hand shake. I have seen adds for as little as $40. im sure you get alot for that amount. I dont think not paying is the way to go, girls will always get what they are asking for (maybe just not from you) if a girl puts her self up higher she will get less calls but still get work. Often girls that dont want much are only looking to get to the next drug and thats not the girl every guy wants.
Also thats why places like ct's are so popular u can get in and out for a fair price, but thats not always to everyones liking.
Ct Michelle
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]I was looking through CL today and could not believe what these girls are wanting. Are you guys actually paying the price? I saw girls I would not want to do for free (or with a stolen dick) and they were wanting $$. 5. I saw some for $. 2 which is alright.
Guys we dictate the prices, stop over paying. I do not use CL and after this recent look I will not.
Those providers act like their stuff is gold plated. Even if it was, it is still used for a pump and dump.
I am not going to work all day and give her the money for 1 hour. I am not married to them I am simply paying them to leave when I am done.
Out in Vegas casino girls are wanting $$- $$$ and at ranches $1500. WTF
Tijuana you can have a choice of 100 girls all better than anyone I saw in CL for $60 an hour $30 hh.
Why do these girls think they need Vegas prices with half the looks?
Fools will pay it is why. If we do not pay it they will reduce the price.
They are making it to where it is cheaper to date a woman. After a couple dates you will still have money left over and more than an hour in the sack.
Yes I know most do not want to invest the time and have to listen to them but lets not over value the pay for play. Paying them to leave is getting outrageous.
Quality, quantity and service are all taking a nose dive because guys are overpaying.[/QUOTE]
Not paying is absolutely the way to go. It is the only thing that works.
It is obvious by your response that it would hurt the girls or anyone who wants to get a share of the money.
You say the girls will get their amount? They will not if the smart mongers stay together. These girls are all nut and go situations.
This forum is to exchange info among fellow mongers.
Here is a real situations and what happened:
In TJ, most of the chicas thought they would raise their rate by $10 or they would reduce their service. They thought they would have no problem with the increase.
The mongers just refused to pay the prices and went with only the chicas with the normal prices and services.
The chicas after about two weeks, found out they were losing too much money so they went back to the normal prices. By then, the mongers had found new favorites and harbored some resentment with the price raising chicas.
It took the chicas over a month afterwards to get back to normal and they work 6 days a week.
Prices for chicas has not changed in 9 years that I know for sure even though our US dollar has dropped in value. Mongers stayed together.
In Vegas the girls are dropping their prices cause they out priced themselves. It is cheaper now than four years ago. Tourist had it all f*cked up because they wanted some "Vegas pussy"(hint: all pussy is made with the same recipe).
If we let these girls in "our" area "get their price" we are screwing ourselves and each other. They NEED our money more than we NEED their jizz receptacles. Gentleman you have the money and every woman, yes every woman has a pussy. It is a buyers market because I am absolutely sure IF I were to go a month without pussy and a woman went a month without money, I would be in better shape
They are not our future wives or g/f only temp business contacts.
If they need more money then they can work more just like we have to and do a good job at work.
I am not as Jaded as some might want you to think. I use my big head. I do my share of mongering in this area and a lot of other areas also but this is home. I care more about the prices here as should you also.
I will say that a lot of my outrage is due to the fact of my wide spread mongering and knowing the difference in cost/quality.
I am not picking on anyone specifically but instead the whole situation.
I truly welcome any monger to honestly comment on this situation.
Only you can prevent price increases!
Ct Michelle[/QUOTE]
Why would "not paying" not be the way to go?
From the provider or some one who expects to gain money, points of view that would be a horrible thing to do.
From the mongers point of view, that is exactly the thing to do.
What are the providers going to do? One of three things.
1) Leave the area because they can LOL
2) Work a real job because they can LOL
3) Reduce their price and adjust their service because they can
It is absolutely the mongers world. We can live without their poor service longer and healthier than they can without our money. After all they are only extra play toys. I can still get a nut
Sticking together works at local strip clubs as we have recently seen.
If we stick together we will see the specials and limited time offers appear because of the lack of foolish mongers.
Always their is a new girl to take their place. In my twenty some years in the hobby I have seen 1000's of girls come and go. The recipe for pussy has always been and always will be the same. The price depends on the mongers absolutely. Always has been and always will be base on what the monger will spend.
I agree, in Vegas, here in the city, if you hold out for what you want you will get it. If you don't; you got desperate. When I started I never bargained. But this is sex, not grocery shopping and if a provider is offended by what you offer that is her right. But it's also your right to make an offer and make another choice if your offer is not accepted. If you have not been to TJ you must go. Stay in a cheap hotel in San Diego, drive to the border(about 10 minutes,) walk over to TJ and have one night of craziness. You'll be embarrassed about what you pay in Chicago. $60 in TJ goes a long way
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]Why would "not paying" not be the way to go?
From the provider or some one who expects to gain money, points of view that would be a horrible thing to do.
From the mongers point of view, that is exactly the thing to do.
What are the providers going to do? One of three things.
1) Leave the area because they can LOL
2) Work a real job because they can LOL
3) Reduce their price and adjust their service because they can
It is absolutely the mongers world. We can live without their poor service longer and healthier than they can without our money. After all they are only extra play toys. I can still get a nut
Sticking together works at local strip clubs as we have recently seen.
If we stick together we will see the specials and limited time offers appear because of the lack of foolish mongers.
Always their is a new girl to take their place. In my twenty some years in the hobby I have seen 1000's of girls come and go. The recipe for pussy has always been and always will be the same. The price depends on the mongers absolutely. Always has been and always will be base on what the monger will spend.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mj138]I agree, Vegas, TJ, here in the city, if you hold out for what you want you will get it.If you don't you got desperate. When I started I never bargained. But this sex, not grocery shopping and if a provider is offended by what you offer that is her right. But it's also your right to offer and make another choice if your offer is not accepted. And if you have not been to TJ you must go. You'll be embarrassed about what you paid in Chicago. $60 in TJ goes a long way[/QUOTE]I have left a couple thousand dollars behind in TJ in the last 9 years. A few hundred in Europe and thousands through out the USA.
What I stated was from experience not guessing or reading about it. I monger with the big head. Most of the time LOL
It is all about value for your money. Frankly the USA is the worst for value, service and attitude that I have found.
$60 in TJ will get you 2-3 alley girls for 20 minutes each or 1 "trophy" chica for 45 min or 1 streetwalker for the night with change left over.
$32 in Italy will get you a girl who just missed the real model cut in Milan.
In this area CL they think if they have a wet pink hole it is worth $$ plus no matter what.
If a girl makes $. 2 and she is top tier with good attitude and service. Then that is fair. Failing or lacking in any of these, the price goes down which is fair.
[QUOTE=Mj138]I agree, in Vegas, here in the city, if you hold out for what you want you will get it. If you don't; you got desperate. When I started I never bargained. But this is sex, not grocery shopping and if a provider is offended by what you offer that is her right. But it's also your right to make an offer and make another choice if your offer is not accepted. If you have not been to TJ you must go. Stay in a cheap hotel in San Diego, drive to the border (about 10 minutes, ) walk over to TJ and have one night of craziness. You'll be embarrassed about what you pay in Chicago. $60 in TJ goes a long way[/QUOTE]Fly to San Diego, trolley to border (save car rental money for chicas Trolley is about 1. 5 miles from airport). Walk or Taxi ($5) to the zona get a cheap room ($30-$45). Enjoy monger's mecca.
For $$. 5 you can fill your belly with great food, completely drain your nuts many times, destroy your liver and have money left over for foolish entertainment at the lesbian nude strip shows and then go to your room. If you are into maxed out nights of 8.18 hours of low moral activities. Buy your smokes for $15 a carton max usually $11.
I know also the price of airline. Well skip CL prices twice and you have the money. Same amount of money spent with a lot more activity
Over pricing is causing pussy to be outsourced.
When I go to Vegas I skip cg prices once, I rent a car and go to TJ for a night. I am money and pussy ahead. Beautiful drive.
Big head saving money little head getting value many times.
If this is completely real, I would say this is fair price on the surface. Now compare this to others.
[url]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ers/863267479.html[/url]
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]I have left a couple thousand dollars behind in TJ in the last 9 years. A few hundred in Europe and thousands through out the USA.
What I stated was from experience not guessing or reading about it. I monger with the big head. Most of the time LOL
It is all about value for your money. Frankly the USA is the worst for value, service and attitude that I have found.
$60 in TJ will get you 2-3 alley girls for 20 minutes each or 1 "trophy" chica for 45 min or 1 streetwalker for the night with change left over.
$32 in Italy will get you a girl who just missed the real model cut in Milan.
In this area CL they think if they have a wet pink hole it is worth $$ plus no matter what.
If a girl makes $. 2 and she is top tier with good attitude and service. Then that is fair. Failing or lacking in any of these, the price goes down which is fair.[/QUOTE]
I'm in agreement with most of the posts re: CL-USA outrageously over-priced.
How do we reach the mongers who aren't educated enough on this subject?
All I can think of is to post these sentiments on CL. It will probably get
flagged eventually but it's worth the effort.
Also going against mongers who want change are the mongers who have
more dough & don't care that they overpay. How are you going to educate them? It will be interesting to see how the economy affects prices on CL
& elsewhere.
T-Man
This should be the standard, use to compare
[quote]Hey Gentlemen,
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I offer sensual and discreet unrushed sessions fully loaded of fun and relief from whatever it is your going through.
Your time with me is always guaranteed to be fun and pleasing.
All you have to do is email me for my number.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Incall
HH/75 Roses FH/125 Roses
Outcall
HH/100 Roses FH/150 Roses[/quote]
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]If this is completely real, I would say this is fair price on the surface. Now compare this to others.
[url]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ers/863267479.html[/url][/QUOTE]I was browsing san diego when I came across the same ad. Even though the
Price is right, there is a good chance that she is not that hot.
We have to keep talking about this in order to get it right.
Everytime we see an ad mention overpriced and why.
We as mongers do not want to rip each other off. By overpaying we are helping the provider to rip us off.
If you have the "extra" money then hit it twice do not block a fellow monger from having some by over paying.
Remember the provider is not yours, it is just your turn! Less money, more turns! We actually do not even pay $$ to the ladies at the AMPs. They get only a portion (maybe$. 2) and the rest go for an established building, management, business utilities, laundry, soaps, oils, taxes, training and similar real expenses. These ladies will be there for a walk in, plus you get frequent flyer discounts.
These ladies actually do more to and for you then the CL bunch for a lower amount of money in their pocket. They can do a real massage not just touch, pull and push. They do a great full body cleaning job too.
Please tell me why I should give a CL provider $$ or more in her pocket.
Please explain the value.