Sugar Babies

Very nice Doc! Sage advice for the sugar hunters. And I agree, it is filling up with "non-starters". I have been scanning profiles for key words and phrases that resemble the "something for nothing" attitude. When I see them, I hide their profile to separate the potentials from the freeloaders. I have been reporting the online only's and the I want to sell my pics, or snapchap premium girls. That has been somewhat successful I think.

Good luck brother!.

Peace.

Pappa54.

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4545809]Guys,

It is getting harder and harder to find a genuine sugar babies from SA site. Almost all new profiles say something about platonic, no sex, only conversations and mentoring, online only and some crap along those lines. The frustrating thing is that now even single mothers and fat girls are demanding platonic. Just out of control. But still there is hope and some gems out there, just harder to weed out the crap and get to them. I wanted to share some things that worked for me, but at the end every girl is different and something unique pops out all the time.

1. Be respectful to the girl (don't be a creep and an asshole), but be assertive and let the girl know you are in charge not her.

2. Take them out of SA chat into texting as early as possible and pose the question straight forward. "Are you into meeting in person and are you comfortable with physical intimacy". This will weed out most of the crap. But still there are scammers not giving up.

3. Get them to agree for a meet within a week. If they don't agree and start talking about being busy etc, just tell them to contact you when they are ready to meet.

4. Let them know they will get financial benefit, but don't talk details. You have an upper hand if you do that talk in person.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Almostgone;4540071]She certainly looks like fun and has sent some very interesting pics. We have chatted a few times and she is DTF. Sadly she sufferers from GPS. If that changes, she could be a winner.[/QUOTE]Met with her this week, I am was in town for a meeting and had been trying to track down a nice SB to hang with while in Charleston. Erica was def fun and eager to please, initially said 5 but was happy to take 250 and get railed for an hour. Sloppy BBBJ and could have prob went in uncovered as she was going to let me.

Gentlemen, visitor from Asheville here, wondering about your take on etiquette. How do you feel about the "compensate for gas" with the initial meet-and-greet? If I ask a SB to meet me half way, a part of me understands her wanting some gas money and another part of me says "hey we're both rolling the dice on this, you should be just as willing to take a chance".

Thoughts?

[QUOTE=RobbinHoodz;4575012]Gentlemen, visitor from Asheville here, wondering about your take on etiquette. How do you feel about the "compensate for gas" with the initial meet-and-greet? If I ask a SB to meet me half way, a part of me understands her wanting some gas money and another part of me says "hey we're both rolling the dice on this, you should be just as willing to take a chance".

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I laugh when they ask that. What did they do, drive 12 hours and burn three tanks at $50 each? Otherwise, I'm happy to give them $3.00 for the gallon they might burn on a round trip to the coffee shop!

[QUOTE=Scbomber;4554951]I agree with Kiter, 100-200 is kind of low. Not saying you won't find it, it just may be a lower end product. I'm not talking service wise, but more on the looks side. That price range also reeks of desperation and all that may come with that. But, it's been done and can be done. I would say 400 is my limit, but I can be talked into 5 if the situation is right.

Hell I've even gotten it for free off there before, or have had arrangements that turned into a bootycall where nothing was gifted or expected. Every girl is completely different and it's all about timing when it comes to negotiation.

Side note, just an example of some of the current delusional GPS floating around out there, this one is grand. From a recent exchange I had in the somewhat recent past, where she had indicated an up front gift would be required to meet.

Copied and pasted.

Me: Well real quick I'll tell you right now I don't gift for first time meet ups. That's to establish a connection to see if it's worth pursuing. If that's a deal breaker I get it, everyone has their rules.

Her: If you mean, not giving me the a gift for my time and you wanting to "test" connection and try things first then NO, I'm not okay with that. It takes a lot for a lady to get dolled up and be presentable for a date in the hopes of starting a mutually beneficial arrangement so I was hoping a token of $400 for my effort to look my best to meet you would be great. Let me know if you still want to meet.

Me: LOL. Good luck sweetie.

Her (hours later): So far I'm doing great while you were taking your sweet time I met to new Daddy's hope you have a great day!

LOL. Suuuure you did.[/QUOTE]None of them want to be the cheapest. The reality is, it depends on how late the rent is and how badly they need to buy groceries. They also feel like they can avoid the worst guys who want to negotiate to the lowest price. I only do that after I have met and know what they are really worth as far as talent, appearance and most important. Attitude. If you want to find a regular thing, make them want to see you with a reasonable amount. What is reasonable is highly different depending on the girl. I had one a few years ago who would see me once a week for $100 which kept her in groceries and occasionally I would give her an extra 100, but not every time. She would spend a few hours with me sometimes and others only 30 minutes for a quick one if I didn't have a lot of time. If you're going to be the cheapest date, she probably won't be so willing to see you again in the future.

[QUOTE=RobbinHoodz;4575012]Gentlemen, visitor from Asheville here, wondering about your take on etiquette. How do you feel about the "compensate for gas" with the initial meet-and-greet? If I ask a SB to meet me half way, a part of me understands her wanting some gas money and another part of me says "hey we're both rolling the dice on this, you should be just as willing to take a chance".

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I don't think its about the gas, I think its about the time. A drive and meet halfway to asheville is going to be the better part of a day. In most cases she would be better off having a nice date localy or maybe two.

Also, since you are not local, this is going to be an ongoing issue and will take extra effort on her part for her to go maybe all the way up to ashevill in the future. You better be a high value client to make that worth it going forward but offering her nothing for half a day of her time, should / would be a non starter IMHO.

In addition, there are some discrepancy on what these woman actually make for their time. From this forum, I would assume a general rate of 200-300 for a date. While this is true and what I generally like to pay, the reality is that the woman I want / like routinely get 500+. 300 might get you in the door but if you consume 4 hours of her time you might have a hard time rescheduling.

I have not paid yet. But I have favorited every piece of decent looking ass in the area. Doing this now for 3 weeks. I have 68 unread messages and I've been favorited by 10 locals. I'll pay Jan 1st.

Obviously a lot of weeding out which I could start putting "FwB" first followed by the ones mentioned on here as potentials. Ideally looking for younger cleaner types for bucket list 69. Maybe I should change my name to "Bucketlist69" LOL.

I'll post as I get a few hits. I will likely go to dinner / lunch dates to help with the "comfortable & trust" level going. Likely help weed out ladies quickly too.

PM me of you like come Jan and I'll secretly play spy-tag and see what info I turn up as I contact diff ladies.

LOL.

[QUOTE=LuverrLegs;4581487]I have not paid yet. But I have favorited every piece of decent looking ass in the area. Doing this now for 3 weeks. I have 68 unread messages and I've been favorited by 10 locals. I'll pay Jan 1st.

Obviously a lot of weeding out which I could start putting "FwB" first followed by the ones mentioned on here as potentials. Ideally looking for younger cleaner types for bucket list 69. Maybe I should change my name to "Bucketlist69" LOL.

I'll post as I get a few hits. I will likely go to dinner / lunch dates to help with the "comfortable & trust" level going. Likely help weed out ladies quickly too.

PM me of you like come Jan and I'll secretly play spy-tag and see what info I turn up as I contact diff ladies.

LOL.[/QUOTE]Just be prepared for most of those messages being "Hey" or "What are you looking for. ".

Some girls will never reply when you hit them back, some will and waste your time and some will take a few weeks to respond to one message, then a few weeks to respond to the next one.

If you're truly interested in someone, get a phone number as quick as possible. Or if you don't want to go that route or they don't want to give it out so quick, get a Snapchat.

It allows you to message them and you can also get pics and send pics. I've found it a great way to connect and keep in touch, especially with the girls in their 20’s.

I don't use it for anything else.

I'm more interested in a Little older than the low teens, and I'm staying far away from the teens. I'm 46 and the younger ones all have young person issues to deal with. No job, no transportation, can't host, roommates, not responsive, can't clearly say what they want.

I'm looking for the 26 - 32 year old, they have place, no roommate, a Little established, but horny as fuck.

Just need some extra cash, don't need to be wined and dined to much.

I don't want all the apps on my phone.

[QUOTE=Scbomber;4582723]Just be prepared for most of those messages being "Hey" or "What are you looking for. ".

Some girls will never reply when you hit them back, some will and waste your time and some will take a few weeks to respond to one message, then a few weeks to respond to the next one.

If you're truly interested in someone, get a phone number as quick as possible. Or if you don't want to go that route or they don't want to give it out so quick, get a Snapchat.

It allows you to message them and you can also get pics and send pics. I've found it a great way to connect and keep in touch, especially with the girls in their 20s.

I don't use it for anything else.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tech3791;4583547]I'm more interested in a Little older than the low teens, and I'm staying far away from the teens. I'm 46 and the younger ones all have young person issues to deal with. No job, no transportation, can't host, roommates, not responsive, can't clearly say what they want.

I'm looking for the 26 - 32 year old, they have place, no roommate, a Little established, but horny as fuck.

Just need some extra cash, don't need to be wined and dined to much.

I don't want all the apps on my phone.[/QUOTE]Wait a sec. The low teens?

Huh??

I'm not touching that one.

I will say that what you described, the 26-32 range is mostly spot on.

I've been lucky and have never had any serious drama with any girl I've met off SA regardless of age. And I've met 19 year olds through 38 year olds. All ages can have drama.

[QUOTE=Scbomber;4585600]Wait a sec. The low teens?

Huh??

I'm not touching that one.

I will say that what you described, the 26-32 range is mostly spot on.

I've been lucky and have never had any serious drama with any girl I've met off SA regardless of age. And I've met 19 year olds through 38 year olds. All ages can have drama.[/QUOTE]Agreed SCbomber. Same experience.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/50019603-2bfd-452d-b3dc-ba1332765a58[/URL]

Any intel on this one? Her profile indicates she is in Charleston, but after chatting with her I found she is in Columbia. She is DTF and eager to meet. For some reason I remember these photos somewhere else, but can't figure out where. My spidey senses are tingling!

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4591892][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/50019603-2bfd-452d-b3dc-ba1332765a58[/URL]

Any intel on this one? Her profile indicates she is in Charleston, but after chatting with her I found she is in Columbia. She is DTF and eager to meet. For some reason I remember these photos somewhere else, but can't figure out where. My spidey senses are tingling!

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.[/QUOTE]I chatted with her and she was DTF until.

I actually tried to pin her down to a time. Seems to be playing games or has a hidden agenda. Looks like fun but something is not right.

[QUOTE=TPolo;4554592]I have been in conversation with a lady on SA. I believe she is near Lake City but I don't travel to the eastern part of the state. She is up for about anything and is willing to travel to Charleston, Columbia or Florence.

Senior members can PM for more information.[/QUOTE]I had a night in Florence. Called her and she agreed to visit my hotel. She is on SA southwrengirl21. Pictures are accurate, she is early 30's MILF. She was on time. Open to about everything but anal. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, Covered FS. Damage was $$. 5 and a little gas money. I would call her again. Says she will drive to Charleston when I am down there.

[QUOTE=Scbomber;4585600]Wait a sec. The low teens?

Huh??

I'm not touching that one.

I will say that what you described, the 26-32 range is mostly spot on.

I've been lucky and have never had any serious drama with any girl I've met off SA regardless of age. And I've met 19 year olds through 38 year olds. All ages can have drama.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Mis-typed there.

Meant to say something like "I'm staying away from the lower ages".

But it's true, I'm also staying away from the low teens also.

Don't get it twisted.