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Didn't this discussion begin because someone blabbed about information passed via PM? (you really can't get any more private than a PM). Or did I just completely misunderstand part of the post by LoveTheMerch:
[QUOTE] "...If I tell you on PM, that means it stays on PM..." [/QUOTE] Absolutely, that's THE rule. The problem might not be the board, but with mongers [I]who talk about[/I] the board.
[QUOTE=BackWoods;2354980][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7613d8c/view?search-recently-active[/URL]
Beware of this one guys. She is a triathlon runner. No need for the gory embarrassing details. If you have contacted her watch out. If I know you I would share some details through PM. Other than that Beware is enough![/QUOTE]Not to cast any aspersions, but what was it about those tramp tats all over her that attracted you to her? She looked like a gang banger just from her photos.
[QUOTE=RJHunter;2356124]Not to cast any aspersions, but what was it about those tramp tats all over her that attracted you to her? She looked like a gang banger just from her photos.[/QUOTE]I think she's hot. To bad she did what she did. I like women with tattoos. Like forbidden fruit. Apparently this is bad apple though. Sorry for your trouble BW. Be smart guys and thanks for sharing info.
[QUOTE=EchoEcho;2355166]Didn't this discussion begin because someone blabbed about information passed via PM? (you really can't get any more private than a PM). Or did I just completely misunderstand part of the post by LoveTheMerch:
Absolutely, that's THE rule. The problem might not be the board, but with mongers [I]who talk about[/I] the board.[/QUOTE]EchoEcho,
You got it right. That was my point. I did not see the benefit of a Google group either, when this forum works the same way and is already well established. At least here I have some idea who I talk with and their history and reputation. A new group would eliminate that and would just mean reinventing the wheel. If I am going to continue to post, then it will be here.
LTM.
I've seen much written on the approach to use with non-pros and ladies on SA (and similar sites) across various media sources, in addition to private discussions. What I have come to understand is that your approach needs to be consistent with what you want. If you are looking for a brand new SB to break-in, there are approaches that are better aligned to success in that arena. If you are looking for an experienced SB, there are certain approaches that are in your favor.
I got into this world without knowing it over 3 years ago. I had a fabulous relationship with a lady in another state. My move to TN has torn us apart and thus started my quest for a new SB. I turned to SA because I didn't have the time to put in the legwork to cultivate a SB from the general population.
I don't have a lot of time, even given the SA supermarket of shelves stocked with all manner of potential SBs. So, I have developed a style that works for me. Many SDs like to be congenial in online communications with potential (POT) SBs. They want to schedule a meet soon to assess compatibility and see if intimacy is in the cards. They often slow-play the situation so as to not frighten off POT SBs.
I made the decision that I don't have time to work on creating meets that may only reveal incompatibilities. On addition, my business and personal travels take me through other larger cities, so my range for POT SBs covers local options plus those in other cities I frequent.
I use a process to learn as much about the POT SB as quickly as possible. Most have vague statements on the profile concerning what they are looking for. Unless she is very specific and I can rule her out based upon that, I have no problem contacting them. I cast a wide net on SA ignoring the amount they request. I am honest and accurate on my profile (don't put average if you are overweight). I don't post a public pic, but can share a private one if requested on SA.
If I get any interest back on SA, I engage quickly. Be advised, many of the younger girls get on the site infrequently and will shoot out responses to their 50 messages and then be gone for 3 or 4 days. I have no patience for that and move on.
For those that I start a dialogue with, I'm looking to establish compatibility quickly. I usually describe my current arrangement (time, frequency, general activities, etc) and ask if they are interested in something like that since I need a replacement SB. I then reveal more about my intimacy approach and ask about theirs. I ask them what they need (economics), but do not reveal what I have provided my SB. I let them know that every arrangement is between me and that SB (builds trust that you won't be discussing their business). I let them offer a number, but never treat them negatively for it. If it is crazy, I restate it like, " So you want $2000 to meet for about an hour in public once a month?" Followed by, "If you find that guy, tell him that I'll meet him for $1500. " Her reaction will tell you if she is reaching for as much as she can get, or has GPS.
During our discussions (SA, text, phone, e-mail) either of us may determine it won't work for compatibility issues (personalities, activities, availability, intimacy, economics). The sooner you can establish a problem and move on, the less time you waste.
A few weeks ago, I had meets lined up for 6 of 7 days (5 ladies, 1 repeat). 100% success rate on intimacy for 3+ hours with each. They were from as far away as 3 hours and all meets happened from Knox to Cookeville. Total outlay was less than 1300 including food and hotels, where needed. A good week, but had to rest to let skin on Mr Happy regenerate. Serious condom burn from ones that are to increase HIS pleasure. Nope.
I've had a few ladies flake on a meet, but I check ahead of time and have back up plans. I've had 1 meet that resulted in a planned session a few days later and she flaked before intimacy.
I know what I want, I go after it. I don't tolerate BS, irresponsibility, or lying. My experience is that the young girls may look great, but they are more trouble than they are worth to someone that is busy. Also, most can't hang in there during intimacy. I've found great success with insatiable, stable women.
Figure out what you want and what you are willing to invest. Take the plunge and develop your style. If you have any game, you will be successful.
[QUOTE=SouthernJohn;2356874]I've seen much written on the approach to use with non-pros and ladies on SA (and similar sites) across various media sources, in addition to private discussions. What I have come to understand is that your approach needs to be consistent with what you want. If you are looking for a brand new SB to break-in, there are approaches that are better aligned to success in that arena. If you are looking for an experienced SB, there are certain approaches that are in your favor.
I got into this world without knowing it over 3 years ago. I had a fabulous relationship with a lady in another state. My move to TN has torn us apart and thus started my quest for a new SB. I turned to SA because I didn't have the time to put in the legwork to cultivate a SB from the general population.
I don't have a lot of time, even given the SA supermarket of shelves stocked with all manner of potential SBs. So, I have developed a style that works for me. Many SDs like to be congenial in online communications with potential (POT) SBs. They want to schedule a meet soon to assess compatibility and see if intimacy is in the cards. They often slow-play the situation so as to not frighten off POT SBs.
I made the decision that I don't have time to work on creating meets that may only reveal incompatibilities. On addition, my business and personal travels take me through other larger cities, so my range for POT SBs covers local options plus those in other cities I frequent.
I use a process to learn as much about the POT SB as quickly as possible. Most have vague statements on the profile concerning what they are looking for. Unless she is very specific and I can rule her out based upon that, I have no problem contacting them. I cast a wide net on SA ignoring the amount they request. I am honest and accurate on my profile (don't put average if you are overweight). I don't post a public pic, but can share a private one if requested on SA.
If I get any interest back on SA, I engage quickly. Be advised, many of the younger girls get on the site infrequently and will shoot out responses to their 50 messages and then be gone for 3 or 4 days. I have no patience for that and move on.
For those that I start a dialogue with, I'm looking to establish compatibility quickly. I usually describe my current arrangement (time, frequency, general activities, etc) and ask if they are interested in something like that since I need a replacement SB. I then reveal more about my intimacy approach and ask about theirs. I ask them what they need (economics), but do not reveal what I have provided my SB. I let them know that every arrangement is between me and that SB (builds trust that you won't be discussing their business). I let them offer a number, but never treat them negatively for it. If it is crazy, I restate it like, " So you want $2000 to meet for about an hour in public once a month?" Followed by, "If you find that guy, tell him that I'll meet him for $1500. " Her reaction will tell you if she is reaching for as much as she can get, or has GPS.
During our discussions (SA, text, phone, e-mail) either of us may determine it won't work for compatibility issues (personalities, activities, availability, intimacy, economics). The sooner you can establish a problem and move on, the less time you waste.
A few weeks ago, I had meets lined up for 6 of 7 days (5 ladies, 1 repeat). 100% success rate on intimacy for 3+ hours with each. They were from as far away as 3 hours and all meets happened from Knox to Cookeville. Total outlay was less than 1300 including food and hotels, where needed. A good week, but had to rest to let skin on Mr Happy regenerate. Serious condom burn from ones that are to increase HIS pleasure. Nope.
I've had a few ladies flake on a meet, but I check ahead of time and have back up plans. I've had 1 meet that resulted in a planned session a few days later and she flaked before intimacy.
I know what I want, I go after it. I don't tolerate BS, irresponsibility, or lying. My experience is that the young girls may look great, but they are more trouble than they are worth to someone that is busy. Also, most can't hang in there during intimacy. I've found great success with insatiable, stable women.
Figure out what you want and what you are willing to invest. Take the plunge and develop your style. If you have any game, you will be successful.[/QUOTE]Very well stated.
[QUOTE=Jem411;2356362]I think she's hot. To bad she did what she did. I like women with tattoos. Like forbidden fruit. Apparently this is bad apple though. Sorry for your trouble BW. Be smart guys and thanks for sharing info.[/QUOTE]I don't have any problems with tats, but when they have a cheap looking amateur tat that looks like they got it while in prison right across the top of their chest, I try to stay away.
[QUOTE=SouthernJohn;2356874]Figure out what you want and what you are willing to invest. Take the plunge and develop your style. If you have any game, you will be successful.[/QUOTE]Your SA formula is superbly articulated sir. Spoken from a gentleman with a plethora of SA experience and successful notches on his belt. Quite a few gems of information in your depiction, so it is much appreciated. Off for strip club takeout for me ...
Stay Safe,
Milfman.
[QUOTE=SouthernJohn;2356874]I've seen much written on the approach to use with non-pros and ladies on SA (and similar sites) across various media sources, in addition to private discussions. What I have come to understand is that your approach needs to be consistent with what you want. If you are looking for a brand new SB to break-in, there are approaches that are better aligned to success in that arena. If you are looking for an experienced SB, there are certain approaches that are in your favor.[/QUOTE]You should post this in the richmond virgina sugar daddy thread, we have contributors from all over the country there. Check it out. Liked your post.
[QUOTE=SouthernJohn;2356874]I've seen much written on the approach to use with non-pros and ladies on SA (and similar sites) across various media sources, in addition to private discussions. What I have come to understand is that your approach needs to be consistent with what you want. If you are looking for a brand new SB to break-in, there are approaches that are better aligned to success in that arena. If you are looking for an experienced SB, there are certain approaches that are in your favor.
[/QUOTE]Breaking through the newer ones' initial jitters is probably the biggest barrier. Once you show that you can offer consistency, they are incredibly happy. Probably the one thing I have trouble with is not taking a straight enough approach. One of mine kept asking why I could never see her on a weekend. I make it a point not to talk about any other relationships, and I like building up the fantasy that it could turn into something else, but in the end, come on. Be real.
Just keeping it real.
Earlier I posted that a certain provider from this board tried to play me. She went by Ashley on SA, but we know her as Mandee (doubles with Blount Honey). While Mandee's performance may be stellar (and doubles with BH could be legendary), I don't take kindly to the dishonesty and deceit she displayed in dealing with me. I'm fine if pros want to pose as SBs, but don't try to BS me when I know your game.
So, while I haven't had any contact with either of these ladies on SA, they are both well known on this board.
Jenna1018 from Powell is SexiLexi.
Tonya N from Knoxville is LoveToPlease.
If you want to get in touch with them, feel free to use their contact info on the board or you can contact them on SA. The price structure is quite different though. You've been informed.
SouthernJohn.
[QUOTE=SouthernJohn;2373061]Just keeping it real.
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.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up SouthernJohn.
In the same spirit, I'm pretty sure "Brooke L. " is Blount Honey.
[QUOTE=ThermoNuclear;2373408]Thanks for the heads up SouthernJohn.
In the same spirit, I'm pretty sure "Brooke L. " is Blount Honey.[/QUOTE]T.
Now you two will probably bash me since I don't have your "senior" title but it doesn't matter to me if you do. To be begin be honest what are you truly looking for on that site, most likely a lady that you don't have to book an appointment with that say but one you can set up on a weekly basis same time every week. Don't fool yourself thinking since they are not a "pro-vider" they are not seeing other SD's also that is naive thinking. If when of those girls mentioned would find a guy that fullfils all they need they might just might stop being a provider. (Doubtful though) All I am saying is yes they shouldn't try denying being a provider if you KNOW 100% they are but even so it is how they chose to get be and who are we to begrudge them what they want if "we" are willing to supply them with the means. That is just my opinion take it or leave it, but I personally would post their names on here publicly but in a PM to members that are curious. I know a few more providers on that site and others that are on here and some well respected but I choose not to air their business publicly.
Bezee.
[QUOTE=ThermoNuclear;2373408]Thanks for the heads up SouthernJohn.
In the same spirit, I'm pretty sure "Brooke L. " is Blount Honey.[/QUOTE]The "Brooke L. " account was the same one that was titled "Ashley" and Mandee was working me from. BH may be using the same SeekingArrangement account (they use the same phone number on here so it's not a stretch). Regardless of who is behind the SA account, we know it's one of the doubles partners.
Play safe. Play smart.
SouthernJohn.