Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Peterg1;7233118]Hello all, I've been reading all the reports and am going to go to Landing Strip for the first time. I've never been to a club so I appreciate all you guys that report for us but I just wondered how much is valet over there? I've heard there's mandatory valet and I just want to bring enough money and not too much. Also any tips you guys have a first timer is appreciated.[/QUOTE]For a first timer bring $500, don't spend it all in the first hour. Don't chicken out and leave with out doing a VIP.

Be aware the most aggressive girls are usually not the best VIP performers.

Negotiate for what you are seeking at the table. Be direct she has been asked for much worse than you want on a regular basis, you can not shock her.

Forget all the other advice but do not pay in advance no matter how persuasive she is. Payment is at the end, if that is not ok with her, then she is planning to cheat you. Don't listen to stories about how the last guy cheated her. You see all bouncers do you really think guys are cheating girls. Don't think your VIP is going well after 10 minutes so you pay her in the middle. If she is worried that you don't have the money you can show it to her but then put it back in your pocked until you are satisfied. Do not put the money on the table where she can grab it and walk out. If you forget this piece of advice I can promise you that you will be back on this forum posting about how some pretty little girl cheated you.

Most girls don't try to cheat so have fun. Most girls also know the regulars and the newbies. You will be one of the newbies. The girls who don't try to cheat have many regulars and rarely hustle to get over to the newbie. The girls who like to cheat will know you are not a regular and approach you to gauge how savy you are.

Post about your report.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7232829]LID,

It does not work the way you think it does.

You are correct that all the negative recessionary things happening. Girls have less opportunity to earn money and many will turn to stripping to boost their earnings. So more girls will be dancing is a fact.

Prices will not come down. If you are one of the lucky boys still working or having enough wealth to spend on girls you will have many more choices. You can more easily find 8's and 9's, where you might have taken 6's or 7's before.

With less customers girls have to charge more to keep their earnings up. Less customers means they can't grow their earning by charging less and serving more customers. Most girls will get 1 or 2 customers a night instead of 3 or 4 customers a night. When there are an abundant number of boys some girls will try the strategy of lowing her price but seeing more guys.

The strip club economics don't lead to lower prices, the girls have to cover their tip outs and various fines so most girls every night they walk in the club they start out at negative 150 dollars. The club makes that regardless. If the girl only gets one customer for 150 the club takes all her earnings. She has to at least earn enough to walk out with money in her pocket, so if she thinks she will only get 1 customer then she needs $250 - $300 to walk out of the club with $100 to $150 in her pocket. I held the line at $200 for many years but I understand the economics of it. What you can do is find a girl who came out of the VIP. Then when you negotiate with her, you can say I know you covered your tip out on the last guy and you probably have $100 in your purse. You don't have to pay tip out twice and I will give you $200 which is all profit for you, so you will earn more money from me than you did from the first guy even though he paid you a higher amount because part of his pay was to cover your tip out. While this is a logical argument it requires the girl to have a rudimentary knowledge of mathematics, which many strippers are notoriously bad at mathematics.

In the pre-cell phone and texting era only so many guys showed up at a club on a given night and if there were too many girls none of the girls made money so the club would limit the number of girls who worked on any night so the supply and demand of boys and girls allowed every girl to make money. If they hired too many girls then the girls wouldn't make money and would leave for other clubs. That pieridine changed with mobile phones. Now the club wants as many girls working at once, because each girl when she arrives she message her regulars and tells them she is at the club and to come in and see her. So the club earns more money the more girls who are working and because the girls are not sharing a small pie, the pie has expanded allowing more girls to make money even if there are many girls dancing. In fact on some night girls only get on stage a couple times, and that used to be how the guys selected the girls but with cell phones guys show up knowing who they want to see, and both the club and the girls have higher earnings.

MM.

MM.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the detailed response Mex. Can always count on the seasoned mongers to offer insight. I saw in one of your previous posts that you frequent the clubs in the $200 - $300 range. I'm assuming that's BT, Criket, Henrys and Bogies, right? Any other clubs I'm missing and what would you say is the best value for the cash. I've always had great success in that range at BT's and the girls seem to be about as hot as you can get for that price range (unless I'm overlooking something or somewhere). PM's are always open if you just want to chat here instead of flooding the board. LOL.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7233840]For a first timer bring $500, don't spend it all in the first hour. Don't chicken out and leave with out doing a VIP.

Be aware the most aggressive girls are usually not the best VIP performers.

Negotiate for what you are seeking at the table. Be direct she has been asked for much worse than you want on a regular basis, you can not shock her.

Forget all the other advice but do not pay in advance no matter how persuasive she is. Payment is at the end, if that is not ok with her, then she is planning to cheat you. Don't listen to stories about how the last guy cheated her. You see all bouncers do you really think guys are cheating girls. Don't think your VIP is going well after 10 minutes so you pay her in the middle. If she is worried that you don't have the money you can show it to her but then put it back in your pocked until you are satisfied. Do not put the money on the table where she can grab it and walk out. If you forget this piece of advice I can promise you that you will be back on this forum posting about how some pretty little girl cheated you..[/QUOTE]I was going to say bring $300. But I go on dayshift. It makes a difference. It's not always the A squad, but there's quite often a diamond in the rough. At LS with tips, you pay like $10 for valet, no cover before 7, maybe $12 for a beer, $1 highly targeted tips on stage (this is when you ask her to come over), like $20 for VIP, then your negotiation is basically whatever's left in your wallet.

Always ask her for a price first, sometimes they come in low or say "what are you working with? In my experience, when they start high, they generally don't balk if you counter in the $200-$250 range. Also, I rarely get into specifics when negotiating. I ask how much are dances, then if she does extras. Then I ask what that includes. I let her do the talking in that area. But if she says she does extras, but won't get into it, then I got to ask if XYX is included.

If the talent is lacking, you might need to get hit an ATM for another $40 if you plan to start over at another club.

[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;7233896]Appreciate the detailed response Mex. Can always count on the seasoned mongers to offer insight. I saw in one of your previous posts that you frequent the clubs in the $200 - $300 range. I'm assuming that's BT, Criket, Henrys and Bogies, right? Any other clubs I'm missing and what would you say is the best value for the cash. I've always had great success in that range at BT's and the girls seem to be about as hot as you can get for that price range (unless I'm overlooking something or somewhere). PM's are always open if you just want to chat here instead of flooding the board. LOL.[/QUOTE]I second this. Everything I know about securing a satisfying session in the club, I learned from advice from seniors here, MM being the foremost. Thank you, gentlemen!

Re: which clubs in the $200-$300 range, you can add LS to your list. Idk about HVIII anymore, haven't been there in years. I am most comfortable at BT's and SC — no smoking, and they both are within a short distance of home. These are critical factors for those of us with someone waiting at home.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;7233392]This economic lesson on this forum is hilarious. Even more hilarious as I am brainstorming and thinking of strategies based off of MM and this post.[/QUOTE]Great posts and insights! We should have a get together for a TED talk with Mex as the moderator. Been to SC in several states and countries. The SC economic process is basically the same. My 2 cents on the topic. Use your big head vs little. TGTBT usually is. Negotiate. Pay the troll at the check in desk for VIP. FWIW I flash the provider her future earnings and pay afterwards. Stay safe!

[QUOTE=Rithro;7233824]Hi, I visit the clubs infrequently, but I've been going for almost 10 years. My two cents: 1) tip only the women you want to come talk to you 2) don't be dismayed if they say they will come to you and just go sit with their friends or regulars.

You meet all kinds of women in clubs, which is part of the fun. Some are shady, some know the business and know how to please. Some will be hot as hell but cold fish in the booth. Some don't look the greatest but could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. I've met an aging porn star, a newly divorced MILF, seen boobs the size of zeppelins, waists as big around as a holstein. One of the best rides I've had in the booth was an intelligent, heavily tatted / pierced woman with a tattoo inside her mouth that said "cum ****. " I've been weaseled for drinks and had tongues stuck in my ear.

Landing Strip. This is my two cents, but it can get smoky and they have the music up too loud. Difficult to have a conversation. I've had a run of bad luck in there (see above), but that doesn't mean you will. Negotiate at the table, as many others here have said. When you go downstairs, pay the bouncer for the booth. Hope you have a good time.[/QUOTE]Number 1 rule never ever pay upfront, negotiate before heading to VIP for a all in price.

[QUOTE=Peterg1;7233118]Hello all, I've been reading all the reports and am going to go to Landing Strip for the first time. I've never been to a club so I appreciate all you guys that report for us but I just wondered how much is valet over there? I've heard there's mandatory valet and I just want to bring enough money and not too much. Also any tips you guys have a first timer is appreciated.[/QUOTE]At landing strip they have mandatory valet. That doesn't mean only the valet can park your car in their little, it means you can't go in the club unless you surrender your keys. You can't park down the street and walk to the club. The reason for this policy is so they can hold your keys hostage if you have a dispute with a dancer. Management will ALWAYS take the dancer's side. You can be replaced, she is difficult to replace. So realize going in that anything in your car can be stolen, and if you want to get your keys back, you'll have to pay the dancer whatever she says you owe.

[QUOTE=Bmarr77;7234185]Number 1 rule never ever pay upfront, negotiate before heading to VIP for a all in price.[/QUOTE]This, 100%. Negotiate on the floor and if she tries to change to a pay first deal, once you get in the back, be prepared to walk out.

[QUOTE=Bmarr77;7233796]Great review! When does angel work?[/QUOTE]No idea, first time there in a long long time, and I didn't ask.

I would think Saturday during the day since that when I seen her.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;7234224]At landing strip they have mandatory valet. That doesn't mean only the valet can park your car in their little, it means you can't go in the club unless you surrender your keys. You can't park down the street and walk to the club. The reason for this policy is so they can hold your keys hostage if you have a dispute with a dancer. Management will ALWAYS take the dancer's side. You can be replaced, she is difficult to replace. So realize going in that anything in your car can be stolen, and if you want to get your keys back, you'll have to pay the dancer whatever she says you owe.[/QUOTE]Replacement fobs are inexpensive if you can get an fake one and put a few keys on it from stuff you don't have anymore. Just hand them the fake. If you have a dispute with a dancer walk out and don't bother with the key guy. I had some fobs in a junk drawer one time that were 3 cars ago and it was junked. To bad I threw them out.

[QUOTE=Sparkeyman;7234614]Replacement fobs are inexpensive if you can get an fake one and put a few keys on it from stuff you don't have anymore. Just hand them the fake. If you have a dispute with a dancer walk out and don't bother with the key guy. I had some fobs in a junk drawer one time that were 3 cars ago and it was junked. To bad I threw them out.[/QUOTE]So how exactly are they going to park your car with a fake? You can being an extra key, yeah. But obviously they're going to know if you hand them a "fake" LOL.

[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;7233896]Appreciate the detailed response Mex. Can always count on the seasoned mongers to offer insight. I saw in one of your previous posts that you frequent the clubs in the $200 - $300 range. I'm assuming that's BT, Criket, Henrys and Bogies, right? Any other clubs I'm missing and what would you say is the best value for the cash. I've always had great success in that range at BT's and the girls seem to be about as hot as you can get for that price range (unless I'm overlooking something or somewhere). PM's are always open if you just want to chat here instead of flooding the board. LOL.[/QUOTE]I usually go to BTs or Criket. I tend to follow around the dancers that I like, since I am very picky.

I have been to Henrys once and Bogarts twice, and didn't find anything that interested me.

Value is super subjective. As are hot girls. I generally prefer thin fit (small tits and flat stomach) college age girl with no tattoos, no piercings, no fake body parts, minimal make up, normal sized finger nails. Finding that is about as likely as finding a purple squirrel. But I am willing to pay more for the perfect girl, in some cases much more than $200 - 300 if she exists. The farther away from that ideal she gets the less I am willing to pay. On my personal 1 - 10 rating system, for girls that I rate a 6 or lower I would be with them for free, but I don't deem it worth a good use of my funds to pay them. I can still pretty easily score a 6 on my own. If I am going to pay then I want at least a girl who is a 7.

I sometime reduce a girls rating if her tits are too big. They always seemed shocked when I say I don't like their big breasts (no it is not a negotiating trick, I honestly prefer smaller breasts). I know most guys like big tits, but I like what I like. Sorry can't help it.

I don't really care what anyone else pays her. If I am happy with what we negotiate and some other guy has her for $50 less, good for him. I always negotiate what I think is fair for me. That means sometimes I over pay. And sometimes I under pay. But I pay what she is worth to me, and if her price is too high, then I decline. There are no hard feelings on my end. This also means some nights I leave the club with out doing a session and I am ok with that. I was surprised how much better my standard sessions became once I was willing to walk out with out doing a session. I also like to repeat with the same girls who I have good chemistry with. Sometimes those are girls that other guys had bad experiences with. There is really no substitute for doing your own research, making your own mistakes, and finding your own personal gems.

MM.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;7234224]Management will ALWAYS take the dancer's side. You can be replaced, she is difficult to replace. So realize going in that anything in your car can be stolen, and if you want to get your keys back, you'll have to pay the dancer whatever she says you owe.[/QUOTE]PL,

I don't doubt your experiences.

But mine have been different. I can usually resolve the issue with the girl directly, maybe I pay when I shouldn't.

The few times I have had disputes with the girls, the management took my side. I once had a girl ranting that we were in the VIP for 5 songs. When I asked the VIP guy he said we were back there for 3 songs, so I paid her for 3.

I once had a girl tell the bouncer that I didn't pay for my dances and I explained that I did pay her $25 per dance, and she is insisting the costs of dances are $35 per dance. I said she only stated that after the dances were over. I said I come to this club frequently and I always have paid $25 per dance. There are numerous dancers in here you can confirm that with. He told me he would handle it from here, and she didn't bother me the rest of the night.

In my case the club seemed to know the girl was a problem girl and took action to keep their customer happy.

I do agree they can go through you stuff in the car, and while I have never had anything stolen (including coins left in the car), I don't leave valuables in the car. I usually have a rental car. But I have noticed things I left in the car have been moved around.

MM.

[QUOTE=ChachiGuy;7234007]I was going to say bring $300.[/QUOTE]CG,

I agree it can be done for $300, but he said he is newbie. Probably going have a drink or two to take the nerve off, and may buy a drink for a girl or two, and maybe he wants to have some food.

I remember when I did my first session I just sat and watched the entire rotation before I even talked to the first girl. Then after spending an hour seeing who was in the club, I decided who I wanted to tip and who I didn't. I also took a girl for a dance before negotiating for extras because I wanted to see what the VIP was like and learn how the club worked.

Even today, if I have already completed my VIP, I sometimes will take girls for dances just to build chemistry with them so the next time I come in we already know each other. I find it helps me have better VIP sessions.

MM.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;7234224]At landing strip they have mandatory valet. That doesn't mean only the valet can park your car in their little, it means you can't go in the club unless you surrender your keys. You can't park down the street and walk to the club. The reason for this policy is so they can hold your keys hostage if you have a dispute with a dancer. Management will ALWAYS take the dancer's side. You can be replaced, she is difficult to replace. So realize going in that anything in your car can be stolen, and if you want to get your keys back, you'll have to pay the dancer whatever she says you owe.[/QUOTE]I may test this someday. I often bicycle to the club, and so don't carry my car keys with me. And there is no such thing as a bike rack in their parking lot, so I lock up my bike off premises. Never had a problem, but I haven't biked to LS. What are they going to do? Refuse entrance because I didn't drive my car there? Do I need a set of decoy keys to hand over? And what about the guys who arrive via Uber, limo, taxi, or SMART bus?