Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

Yo CJ before you get heated over my comments on rates maybe you should realize you see clients including me for under your advertised rate. I don't haggle it's not my problem you and Erin will fuck me for less than you charge someone else! Grand Rapids has a bunch of wannabe hookers who can't make rent stay sober or respond to messages that benefits you personally and hurts clients. I think your rate of $250 for under a half hour is too high and have never paid that to see you. Don't confuse complaining with advice. If clients keep their wallets shut the prices will be more in line with the service provided. You provide an unmatched experience no question there LOL but I won't recommend someone to pay $250 when I pay less.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7404242]Yo CJ before you get heated over my comments on rates maybe you should realize you see clients including me for under your advertised rate. I don't haggle it's not my problem you and Erin will fuck me for less than you charge someone else! Grand Rapids has a bunch of wannabe hookers who can't make rent stay sober or respond to messages that benefits you personally and hurts clients. I think your rate of $250 for under a half hour is too high and have never paid that to see you. Don't confuse complaining with advice. If clients keep their wallets shut the prices will be more in line with the service provided. You provide an unmatched experience no question there LOL but I won't recommend someone to pay $250 when I pay less.[/QUOTE]Might be in the minority here but I agree with the message but the delivery is a bit off. Would love to see CJ if I could get the bean rate tho LOL.

[QUOTE=JayJay2;7405039]Might be in the minority here but I agree with the message but the delivery is a bit off. Would love to see CJ if I could get the bean rate tho LOL.[/QUOTE]Based on past PMs I have received you aren't alone. Unfortunately people don't like to speak as openly on the forums as they do through private message. Within a day of my post here comes another glowing review of CJ of someone who doesn't post in GR much and only posts about her and a select few others without stating a rate. People are very sensitive and fragile about being linked to alternate accounts so if you check their post history you can probably guess who it is if you've been on the boards the last few years. CJ is the equivalent of a porn star. A 15 minute appt shouldn't cost $250. Both can be true but people really don't like it when you talk about it LOL. I'm sure there will be posts now saying they enjoyed their full time with her and not share what they paid. Same people who brag about not lasting 10 minutes because she's intense. I don't pay $250 to fuck her nor should you.

How does a Monger have 130+ posts and still be a regular Member? Have the Senior Member rules / qualifications been changed? I got no memo, no TPS report!

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;7405475]How does a Monger have 130+ posts and still be a regular Member? Have the Senior Member rules / qualifications been changed? I got no memo, no TPS report![/QUOTE]How long has he been in the board? I was well over the required post number before I had my 6 months in.

[QUOTE=BTrucker1964;7406465]How long has he been in the board? I was well over the required post number before I had my 6 months in.[/QUOTE]I guess I have senior status now thanks Mr Jelly! I never pay attention to status but someone made it happen.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7408817]I guess I have senior status now thanks Mr Jelly! I never pay attention to status but someone made it happen.[/QUOTE]Hells Yeah!

I know we are all degenerates but use your heads people. You don't need to post 18 messages saying CJ is amazing. Everybody myself included knows that. You're missing the point. Her service is top notch, pornstar experience level. My only minor gripe about her service is she doesn't swallow like a pornstar. Can't handle the juice LOL. My complaint is the price. I don't pay $250 to see her and neither should you. Funny how no one talks cost except a first poster saying you should get your finances in order if you think she's expensive. Never seen that before. No one is in their right mind to say she isn't good at what she does and she's one of the most entrepreneurial escorts I have met in the hobby with excellent communication. None of you have the balls to say $250 is too much for a visit that lasts at most 20 minutes. I will still fuck her, she has no clue who I am on these boards. Anonymity is your friend and I've never paid more than $200 and many times less to bang the same person. You're mistaking my posts as someone who is dogging someone but you overlook the many posts of people complaining about prices on others and don't see how they are related. If you don't pay what they ask, prices go down, including CJ. She could have retired years ago but what her ad doesn't say is she loves money more than sex. The only thing you're doing by posting the same shit about her over and over without including an actual experience or price paid is hurting the hobby in Grand Rapids. Escorts compare to others what the rates are and they gladly will charge more if people pay. If you can't see the difference in my posts and what I'm after that's your own problem.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7411801]I know we are all degenerates but use your heads people. You don't need to post 18 messages saying CJ is amazing. Everybody myself included knows that. You're missing the point. Her service is top notch, pornstar experience level. My only minor gripe about her service is she doesn't swallow like a pornstar. Can't handle the juice LOL. My complaint is the price. I don't pay $250 to see her and neither should you. Funny how no one talks cost except a first poster saying you should get your finances in order if you think she's expensive. Never seen that before. No one is in their right mind to say she isn't good at what she does and she's one of the most entrepreneurial escorts I have met in the hobby with excellent communication. None of you have the balls to say $250 is too much for a visit that lasts at most 20 minutes. I will still fuck her, she has no clue who I am on these boards. Anonymity is your friend and I've never paid more than $200 and many times less to bang the same person. You're mistaking my posts as someone who is dogging someone but you overlook the many posts of people complaining about prices on others and don't see how they are related. If you don't pay what they ask, prices go down, including CJ. She could have retired years ago but what her ad doesn't say is she loves money more than sex..[/QUOTE]If they aren't swallowing, I won't pay ten bucks. The whole point of this hobby for me is finding a woman who will do what my wife won't do. Swallow my load or I will find a woman who will.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7411801]I know we are all degenerates but use your heads people. You don't need to post 18 messages saying CJ is amazing. Everybody myself included knows that. You're missing the point. Her service is top notch, pornstar experience level. My only minor gripe about her service is she doesn't swallow like a pornstar. Can't handle the juice LOL. My complaint is the price. I don't pay $250 to see her and neither should you. Funny how no one talks cost except a first poster saying you should get your finances in order if you think she's expensive. Never seen that before. No one is in their right mind to say she isn't good at what she does and she's one of the most entrepreneurial escorts I have met in the hobby with excellent communication. None of you have the balls to say $250 is too much for a visit that lasts at most 20 minutes. I will still fuck her, she has no clue who I am on these boards. Anonymity is your friend and I've never paid more than $200 and many times less to bang the same person. You're mistaking my posts as someone who is dogging someone but you overlook the many posts of people complaining about prices on others and don't see how they are related. If you don't pay what they ask, prices go down, including CJ. She could have retired years ago but what her ad doesn't say is she loves money more than sex. The only thing you're doing by posting the same shit about her over and over without including an actual experience or price paid is hurting the hobby in Grand Rapids. Escorts compare to others what the rates are and they gladly will charge more if people pay. If you can't see the difference in my posts and what I'm after that's your own problem.[/QUOTE]Bro. It's you who's missing the point. If you're so much financially smarter than us, just enjoy your superiority. But you keep denigrating us for enjoying an incredible time with a reliable, clean, sober, healthy provider who provides a fully interactive session. If I'm willing to pay more to enjoy a well prepared ribeye steak, than what you pay for a quarter pounder with cheese, just let me. I have spent enough money on providers in filthy rooms, or who didn't shower from the last client, or who are high, or just plain fat and disgusting, or who ghost me on the appointment time, to know that I'm willing to pay more for a known commodity that is willing to give me a session I want. Just let me do that. And go ahead and feel smugly superior because you're grandfathered in at a lower rate. Your obsession with feeling you are the voice of reason here is counter to what this forum is all about. This isn't about you reviewing our reviews. So please just stop. And you aren’t going to “unionize” us so we boycott providers who charge more than your communist manifesto feels we should pay. So move on, stop bitching about how stupid we are to pay more than your historical fee chart says we should. Recognize we are a free market society here. I feel I get value and bang for the buck when I see CJ, and others. I can choose where my money goes. Right comrade?

Go see Honey and enjoy her. I won't because she's not my cup of tea, but I don't feel a need to contradict your reviews just because I found odors I don't relish when I visited her. I'm thrilled you enjoy the experience with her. I'm not a QV guy, so the half hour is my minimum and I always get my full time with CJ. I've learned to pace myself to get the full workout and the payoff is so good. She just never fails to exceed my expectations. Can you just let me enjoy that? Thanks in advance for stopping the reviews of our reviews.

Well said, Fig. Thanks for posting.

[QUOTE=Figment;7411908]Bro. It's you who's missing the point. If you're so much financially smarter than us, just enjoy your superiority. But you keep denigrating us for enjoying an incredible time with a reliable, clean, sober, healthy provider who provides a fully interactive session. If I'm willing to pay more to enjoy a well prepared ribeye steak, than what you pay for a quarter pounder with cheese, just let me. I have spent enough money on providers in filthy rooms, or who didn't shower from the last client, or who are high, or just plain fat and disgusting, or who ghost me on the appointment time, to know that I'm willing to pay more for a known commodity that is willing to give me a session I want. Just let me do that. And go ahead and feel smugly superior because you're grandfathered in at a lower rate. Your obsession with feeling you are the voice of reason here is counter to what this forum is all about. This isn't about you reviewing our reviews. So please just stop. And you arent going to unionize us so we boycott providers who charge more than your communist manifesto feels we should pay. So move on, stop bitching about how stupid we are to pay more than your historical fee chart says we should. Recognize we are a free market society here. I feel I get value and bang for the buck when I see CJ, and others. I can choose where my money goes. Right comrade?

Go see Honey and enjoy her. I won't because she's not my cup of tea, but I don't feel a need to contradict your reviews just because I found odors I don't relish when I visited her. I'm thrilled you enjoy the experience with her. I'm not a QV guy, so the half hour is my minimum and I always get my full time with CJ. I've learned to pace myself to get the full workout and the payoff is so good. She just never fails to exceed my expectations. Can you just let me enjoy that? Thanks in advance for stopping the reviews of our reviews.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7411801]I know we are all degenerates but use your heads people. You don't need to post 18 messages saying CJ is amazing. Everybody myself included knows that. You're missing the point. Her service is top notch, pornstar experience level. My only minor gripe about her service is she doesn't swallow like a pornstar. Can't handle the juice LOL. My complaint is the price. I don't pay $250 to see her and neither should you. Funny how no one talks cost except a first poster saying you should get your finances in order if you think she's expensive. Never seen that before. No one is in their right mind to say she isn't good at what she does and she's one of the most entrepreneurial escorts I have met in the hobby with excellent communication. None of you have the balls to say $250 is too much for a visit that lasts at most 20 minutes. I will still fuck her, she has no clue who I am on these boards. Anonymity is your friend and I've never paid more than $200 and many times less to bang the same person. You're mistaking my posts as someone who is dogging someone but you overlook the many posts of people complaining about prices on others and don't see how they are related. If you don't pay what they ask, prices go down, including CJ. She could have retired years ago but what her ad doesn't say is she loves money more than sex. The only thing you're doing by posting the same shit about her over and over without including an actual experience or price paid is hurting the hobby in Grand Rapids. Escorts compare to others what the rates are and they gladly will charge more if people pay. If you can't see the difference in my posts and what I'm after that's your own problem.[/QUOTE]It's always funny to me when you admit I'm one of the best, but then complain about my rates, as if being good at what you do should somehow make you cheaper. That's not how it works in any field. A top-notch chef doesn't discount a meal because it's perfectly cooked, This isn't fast food, qit's a five-star experience, and that comes with five-star rates. Funny how no one complains when a steakhouse charges more than a drive-thru. and a mechanic doesn't charge less because they fix your car right the first time. Efficiency and quality increase value, they don't lower it.

You think being anonymous here gives you the upper hand, but let's be real, I'm still the one winning. You can hide behind a screen name all you want, but at the end of the day, you're still booking me. .

My rates are my choice, based on my time, effort, and experience, and judging by how often you think about me, I'd say they're worth every penny. Everyone values themselves differently. I just happen to want to make it worth my time. * And honestly, I'd love to know, how much would YOU charge to do my job? Because despite the fantasy, it's not always great sex with a hot partner on my end. Some days, it's actual work, and I still show up, keep it professional, and deliver the experience people expect. That's what they're paying for. If $250 feels too high, because you personally don't last a half hour, that 's okay; quality has never been for everyone.

The irony is, every time you bring me up, more people come looking to see what all the fuss is about. So please go ahead and keep the posts coming because every time you mention me, my phone lights up a little more. Free promo is still promo, darling.

And to Figment. Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you for recognizing the difference between price and value, they're not the same thing, and never have been.

I'm grateful for clients like you who understand that what I offer goes far beyond the surface. It's about reliability, consistency, and mutual respect.

At the end of the day, everyone's free to choose where they spend their time and money. I'll keep focusing on quality and the people who actually appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Benz1;7411890]If they aren't swallowing, I won't pay ten bucks. The whole point of this hobby for me is finding a woman who will do what my wife won't do. Swallow my load or I will find a woman who will.[/QUOTE]There are no emojis on this website- at least I haven't seen them. Regardless, this post made me laugh uncontrollably (in agreement) LOL.

[QUOTE=Cassidy69;7412079]It's always funny to me when you admit I'm one of the best, but then complain about my rates, as if being good at what you do should somehow make you cheaper. That's not how it works in any field. A top-notch chef doesn't discount a meal because it's perfectly cooked, This isn't fast food, qit's a five-star experience, and that comes with five-star rates. Funny how no one complains when a steakhouse charges more than a drive-thru. and a mechanic doesn't charge less because they fix your car right the first time. Efficiency and quality increase value, they don't lower it.

You think being anonymous here gives you the upper hand, but let's be real, I'm still the one winning. You can hide behind a screen name all you want, but at the end of the day, you're still booking me. .

My rates are my choice, based on my time, effort, and experience, and judging by how often you think about me, I'd say they're worth every penny. Everyone values themselves differently. I just happen to want to make it worth my time. * And honestly, I'd love to know, how much would YOU charge to do my job? Because despite the fantasy, it's not always great sex with a hot partner on my end. Some days, it's actual work, and I still show up, keep it professional, and deliver the experience people expect. That's what they're paying for. If $250 feels too high, because you personally don't last a half hour, that 's okay; quality has never been for everyone.

The irony is, every time you bring me up, more people come looking to see what all the fuss is about. So please go ahead and keep the posts coming because every time you mention me, my phone lights up a little more. Free promo is still promo, darling.

And to Figment. Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you for recognizing the difference between price and value, they're not the same thing, and never have been.

I'm grateful for clients like you who understand that what I offer goes far beyond the surface. It's about reliability, consistency, and mutual respect.

At the end of the day, everyone's free to choose where they spend their time and money. I'll keep focusing on quality and the people who actually appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Let's be honest dear we aren't talking 5 star restaurants this is Grand Rapids. I will continue to remind clients that it is we who set the price. Not you. If clients don't pay rates will go down, including yours. But you are the unicorn in this board because we probably should be taking financial advice by you. Clearing 6 figures easily a year tax free right? Charge what you want. Others message me wanting to pay less can I get a credit if I refer to you? Or at least a cut if I'm getting you more business? Bean special? LOL. Figment always has kind words and it's lovely he goes out of his from across the state or wherever he lives to worship the women he sees without any mention of donation. That is true gentleman sacrifice there the likes of which I haven't seen since the infamous Gene2.

Since you asked, are we talking women or dudes? Probably lawyer rates, either way I'm getting fucked LOL.

[QUOTE=ExpressoJim;7411952]Well said, Fig. Thanks for posting.

.[/QUOTE]As much as I hate the analogy I simply see it the same as chosing a vehicle. I prefer American made luxury and I am willing to me pay for that.

If you prefer the cost of a Corolla then that would be your choice. I'll stick with my Cadillac thank you. Jk.