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[QUOTE=The Dough Boy; 1865296]Actually I was more comfortable and considering booking her BEFORE the fake pics were added. They did not attract me. (She looks like someone I've had a thing for but is off limits to me. LOL)

When I found the fake images it actually slowed my roll. If they are using fake pics can they truly be trusted? Got to remember to think w the big head and as you said stick with reviewed girls till I'm more comfortable (hoping someone will post on Trinity soon).[/QUOTE]Under no circumstances can this (or any other) provider 'truly be trusted'. Think about what you are asking yourself there. I know it's probably just a figure of speech, but if you are wondering how you can judge trustworthiness of someone you've never met, using only their ad on BackPage, you are asking the wrong questions.

The successful senior mongers here, the guys with all the great stories and the phonebook full of providers, are the guys who accept this simple fact: these women will suck dick for a dollar (or 10, 50, 100, whatever). If they are ok with this arrangement, chances are good they are ok with a whole lotta shit you never want to know about.

Cover your ass as much as possible, anticipate and decide ahead of time what you will do when you encounter shady behavior (because you will) , and listen to that tingly feeling in the back of your neck. Far better to miss a score than score an appointment with the judge (or a dirt nap, for that matter).

[QUOTE=The Dough Boy; 1865296]Actually I was more comfortable and considering booking her BEFORE the fake pics were added. They did not attract me. (She looks like someone I've had a thing for but is off limits to me. LOL)

When I found the fake images it actually slowed my roll. If they are using fake pics can they truly be trusted? Got to remember to think w the big head and as you said stick with reviewed girls till I'm more comfortable (hoping someone will post on Trinity soon).[/QUOTE]As someone who has used CL when it was popular, then moved onto BP, maybe I can give you a few tips. I do not think alot of people do this, but it is something that has kept me out of trouble. If I see a girl, for example Trinity, no reviews, fake pics, well in most cases that is a red flag that is going to make me pass her by. But she looks like someone I know, been there done that, so she is someone I would like to meet. Personally, I would give her a call, talk to her, tell her you know I need to know you are for real, and I want you to know I am for real. How about we meet for breakfast, or lunch I will buy for. 50. I am very rarely turned down, but I would go as high as a 1/2 hour rate. It is a chance to meet someone, see what they really look like, see what their personality is like. You get to discuss details, if she rushes me now, then probably she is going to rush me through our meeting. How open and up front is she, they all have bfs or handlers, so how up front is she about that, are we going to be alone in the room is a question to ask, and I have had many be very open which makes me feel good, like yeah I have a guy that lives with me but he will take a walk or he will be at work. Many have bad habits, is she sick and unable to eat at breakfast, is she wearing long sleeves and it is 90 degrees outside well she just answered a question and you did not even have to ask. Maybe it is just me, but I have had them telling me their life story and showing me pictures of their kids on their phone before our meeting is over. Walk out of the restaurant with them, did she drive herself or is Charley Manson sitting in the car waiting for her. I had one bring a provider friend with her, that was also someone I wanted to meet, which felt comfortable enough to share other providers she knew on BP and that 1 breakfast gave me references to not only the 2 girls that I met, but to other providers that were on BP. I now feel comfortable with you, and in my opinion it has made our first date better.

This a dicey game we play, NOTHING is 100 per cent safe, these girls lives change like the wind, but once a girl trusts you and you have become a steady source of income for them then they want to keep you safe for their own benefit. Make it clear the first thing we do when I walk in that room is do an LE check. On a first meet, I carry my monger wallet which contains expired credit cards. Never flash cash and just have what we have agreed upon, maybe enough for a tip if you are so inclined. Watches, rings, jewelry, cell phone, leave them in the car or at home. In my opinion, a short stay can be had for cheap, and if she trusts you enough is a better investment than using her incall. I usually tip, and sometimes I have left it in my pants pocket and went into the bathroom for a short, just so I know what type of girl I am dealing with. It is not a bad idea to have extra clothes in the car, I used to work at a restaurant that was next door to a known hooker motel hangout, and it was not uncommon for someone to come there in their underwear, looking to use the phone (this was before cell phone days). When I look at a BP ad, I look for certain things. Red flags to me are, are there a number of different girls ads linked to this one, how long has she posted, did she take those pictures in a mirror or do they look TGTBT or too posed, are they sexy or are they all street clothes, the sexier the better in my opinion. Is it an out of state or out of area phone number, is she posting in alot of different areas, how can she be in 2 places at once. Who answers the phone when I call, is it her or another girl, or some dude. Most have bfs or handlers like I said, but there are good ones and bad ones, and for the most part they are there for the girls protection, and they are interested in their girl making money because these girls seem to find someone that is worthless, and lives off them for whatever reason.

Best of luck to you, hope some of this helps. I have been doing this for a number of years, and trust me I have made mistakes, but you learn from those mistakes. In the time that I have been here, I have learned alot from others, especially the old time seniors, and their words are like gold. Like I said, it is a dangerous game we play, and no one can be 100 per cent safe, but in my opinion the benefits are worth it, as in doing girls that look the ones on the front of a magazine, or girls that do what they do because they love it, and it shows in their work.

Be Safe DF

[QUOTE=Moriarty1875; 1865714]Under no circumstances can this (or any other) provider 'truly be trusted'. Think about what you are asking yourself there. I know it's probably just a figure of speech, but if you are wondering how you can judge trustworthiness of someone you've never met, using only their ad on BackPage, you are asking the wrong questions.

The successful senior mongers here, the guys with all the great stories and the phonebook full of providers, are the guys who accept this simple fact: these women will suck dick for a dollar (or 10, 50, 100, whatever). If they are ok with this arrangement, chances are good they are ok with a whole lotta shit you never want to know about.

Cover your ass as much as possible, anticipate and decide ahead of time what you will do when you encounter shady behavior (because you will) , and listen to that tingly feeling in the back of your neck. Far better to miss a score than score an appointment with the judge (or a dirt nap, for that matter).[/QUOTE]Very true. I've been set up by girls who I've treated extremely well, who could have counted on lot's of future benefit. They can turn on you for minimal quick benefits even though that seems against their own interests. Hey, a lot of these girls do three things that hurt their own interests before breakfast everyday. It's like the fable of the frog and the scorpion, it's just their nature (not so much as people but as addicts).

[QUOTE=Mister Slate;1866022]Very true. I've been set up by girls who I've treated extremely well, who could have counted on lot's of future benefit. They can turn on you for minimal quick benefits even though that seems against their own interests. Hey, a lot of these girls do three things that hurt their own interests before breakfast everyday. It's like the fable of the frog and the scorpion, it's just their nature (not so much as people but as addicts).[/QUOTE]Good point MS, and also keep in mind that you are not only dealing with that provider, but the people she lives with and her SO. We both became friends with a case in point. On her own, in my opinion she was honest and she always tried to protect me from the people she lived with. But get her around them and she turned into someone else. Alot have bfs, think about it, the girls can make $ selling themselves, but how do their bfs make money, stealing and scamming people for money. The girls themselves reach a desperation point that makes them do things not in their best interest. I had a girl tell me one time that when she is sick, she would be willing to line up 20 guys behind her and charge each one a buck a piece just to not feel that way. Actually sounds like a pretty good deal, but I would want to be first in line. Now I have got to check on line and read the fable of the frog and the scorpion. LOL DF

[QUOTE=DogFood; 1866019]It is a chance to meet someone, see what they really look like, see what their personality is like.

I have had many be very open which makes me feel good, like yeah I have a guy that lives with me but he will take a walk or he will be at work.

Maybe it is just me, but I have had them telling me their life story and showing me pictures of their kids on their phone before our meeting is over.[/QUOTE]No offense DF, I appreciate the reply BUT:

I kind of subscribe to the "you pay them to go away" philosophy.

I have no intention of getting to know them better or know their children or bf's.

I don't want another relationship. And I DO want variety. I just want to be selfish and enjoy myself and have my ego stroked for a bit till I have to go back to reality.

[QUOTE=DogFood;1866019]Make it clear the first thing we do when I walk in that room is do an LE check.[/QUOTE]What exactly does your LE check consist of?

[QUOTE=DogFood;1866019]On a first meet, I carry my monger wallet which contains expired credit cards.[/QUOTE]What is the reason for fake CC?

[QUOTE=DogFood;1866068]Good point MS, and also keep in mind that you are not only dealing with that provider, but the people she lives with and her SO. We both became friends with a case in point. On her own, in my opinion she was honest and she always tried to protect me from the people she lived with. But get her around them and she turned into someone else. Alot have bfs, think about it, the girls can make $ selling themselves, but how do their bfs make money, stealing and scamming people for money. The girls themselves reach a desperation point that makes them do things not in their best interest. I had a girl tell me one time that when she is sick, she would be willing to line up 20 guys behind her and charge each one a buck a piece just to not feel that way. Actually sounds like a pretty good deal, but I would want to be first in line. Now I have got to check on line and read the fable of the frog and the scorpion. LOL DF[/QUOTE]I see little reviews, mostly discussion, I have only left a couple. WTF, it is called a review section. No q&a. No bitching about newbies. No questions, just leave a review!

[QUOTE=The Dough Boy; 1865307]In my recent reading I did find some posts regarding donations but I was looking for a little more insight.

The debate I was reading about (I think its in the Homework thread) was whether to pay in advance or after service were rendered. I always thought that it was cash up front and this is how I conducted business in my very limited experience. So is paying after a new trend. Is this something SP's are OK with?

My other question is how to handle the initial discussion with a new SP. When you first come into the room who makes the first move or brings up business first. Is it customary for me to just pull out the cash and set it down or do I wait for a cue from the SP?

How / when do we discuss services / menu / rules? I have also seen posts saying get the details before and after money is laid out. This kind of ties in with the question above. Who blinks first? If I don't lay out the money I would think SP is going to be reluctant to discuss services and if she is not willing to talk menu first then do I want to lay out money?

I acknowledge that if its a sting LE will likely "take me down" regardless but I still want to be cautious and develop my routine and stick with it until I become comfortable with the donation process. Or is it just always an anxious moment no matter what when you're with a new acquaintance?

Any input appreciated.[/QUOTE]The title says it all! These gals. Won't even say hi without it! Period. And don't listen to these Billie bad ass want to best that said,"I wasn't happy, so I took half back "! Never happened! If you get f over, you leave peaceful, because a 100 bucks ain't worth your life. As far as LE stings, the minute you show up, after responding to an add for sex, they got you on "intent " regardless. Just like on Chris handsons to catch a predictor, INTENTION is ENOUGH for an arrest

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She has a couple other posts with more pics (search Sara on BP). She is also on NR.

I was looking for a late night last minute hook up close to home. Sara was offering SS for 50. Basic two call set up. I spoke with Sara herself. Met at her hotel in Warren.

Quick hug upon entering with a minute of idle chit chat. She asked me to get the business out of the way so I set donation on desk (I left. 60). She told me to get comfy while she stashed donation in bathroom (I never checked the bathroom. Didn't know I was supposed to, so I don't know whether there was someone else in there. I was very nervous since I'm inexperienced. Was half waiting for LE to bust in or come out of the bathroom. LOL. Anyway, Sarah came out and got down to business. She offered up a taste of her J cusps while she handled my business then she moved down to decent BBBJ w / CIM. She did stop a few minutes in and ask if there was anything else I wanted. I decided to stick with what I had going on. I don't believe this was an attempt at an upsale. Just her making sure I got what I wanted (but what do I know. And I didn't ask). After CIM Sara made her way to bathroom (spit?) and returned with some baby wipes for me to clean up. Thanked her and was on my way.

I did notice on the way out there was a guy looking me up and down. I think it was the same guy I seen on the way in. He was just sitting on the sidewalk (not smoking or doing anything other than checking me out. Possibly a handler).

The pics are accurate. This girl is stacked. Yes she is a BBW but she has a shape (other than round). She is missing a tooth but the rest of her grill didn't look too bad. FWIW: I think she does have some skeletons. She offered up that she had some problems in the past but she got her shit together and is doing better now. All in all I would say well worth her donation. I may see her again for a longer visit when she comes back around to my area.

Hope this is Ok for my first review. I appreciate all the help others have offered me by replying to my questions. It's very helpful to me and I'm sure other novices out there.

[QUOTE=Muskie1;1866142]I see little reviews, mostly discussion, I have only left a couple. WTF, it is called a review section. No q&a. No bitching about newbies. No questions, just leave a review![/QUOTE]I understand your point but I must say there is definitely a need for a discussion board. Not sure if we should add one and separate it from this forum or what, I guess that is up to the mods. If there was a discussion board would it get the support of the senior mongers that visit this forum?

I will say in the short time I have been here I have gotten some priceless tips. I didn't know about Googling phone #'s or image searches (or what to make of this info). I was unsure what to look for in ads and have picked up some tips on how to handle encounters such as checking the room, and dealing with donations, etc.

FWIW: I hope to be able to submit reviews as I see more women but for now I also need some coaching to get me to that point.

Mods: please let me know if I am to stop submitting questions. I want to be in compliance w board rules. If that is the case please consider opening a discussion board.

TDB

I told you guys about a dream that I had on my lunch break the other day. It was a good dream and there was nothing negative to say. Good for me. Today I started doing homework and stumble across the dream that I had told you guys about on the other site. For the record, I did not post or let anyone else post it. It kind of pisses me off that it was taken from here and from me. Have any of you had it happen before? In the dream her name is Jazz. Very easy to find.

[QUOTE=The Dough Boy; 1866444]I understand your point but I must say there is definitely a need for a discussion board. Not sure if we should add one and separate it from this forum or what, I guess that is up to the mods. If there was a discussion board would it get the support of the senior mongers that visit this forum?

I will say in the short time I have been here I have gotten some priceless tips. I didn't know about Googling phone #'s or image searches (or what to make of this info). I was unsure what to look for in ads and have picked up some tips on how to handle encounters such as checking the room, and dealing with donations, etc.

FWIW: I hope to be able to submit reviews as I see more women but for now I also need some coaching to get me to that point.

Mods: please let me know if I am to stop submitting questions. I want to be in compliance w board rules. If that is the case please consider opening a discussion board.

TDB[/QUOTE]Don't let the haters get your goat. The mods won't weigh in on this unless the thread really gets derailed by some kind of drama. This is exactly where you should be posting your questions when they relate to BP advertisers. SW questions belong in the SW thread, and so on. If this forum maintained the kind of strict content purity that some seem to want, and it consisted of nothing more than a daily report of who stuck what into whom for how much $$, I would never have stayed around long enough to become a senior member.

Members in other forum locales have done a lot more with the flexibility of the site model than we have here in Michigan. If you really want to start a separate thread for non-review material, you can do that. It seems like the mongers around here are just more casual about blending the reporting and the discussion.

[QUOTE=The Dough Boy; 1866423][url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-saras-juicy-jcupsbbwcurvy-candyland-tender-and-4-ur-delught-eastside-313-828-3239-31/13306841[/url]

She has a couple other posts with more pics (search Sara on BP). She is also on NR.

I was looking for a late night last minute hook up close to home. Sara was offering SS for 50. Basic two call set up. I spoke with Sara herself. Met at her hotel in Warren.

Quick hug upon entering with a minute of idle chit chat. She asked me to get the business out of the way so I set donation on desk (I left. 60). She told me to get comfy while she stashed donation in bathroom (I never checked the bathroom. Didn't know I was supposed to, so I don't know whether there was someone else in there. I was very nervous since I'm inexperienced. Was half waiting for LE to bust in or come out of the bathroom. LOL. Anyway, Sarah came out and got down to business. She offered up a taste of her J cusps while she handled my business then she moved down to decent BBBJ w / CIM. She did stop a few minutes in and ask if there was anything else I wanted. I decided to stick with what I had going on. I don't believe this was an attempt at an upsale. Just her making sure I got what I wanted (but what do I know. And I didn't ask). After CIM Sara made her way to bathroom (spit?) and returned with some baby wipes for me to clean up. Thanked her and was on my way.

I did notice on the way out there was a guy looking me up and down. I think it was the same guy I seen on the way in. He was just sitting on the sidewalk (not smoking or doing anything other than checking me out. Possibly a handler).

The pics are accurate. This girl is stacked. Yes she is a BBW but she has a shape (other than round). She is missing a tooth but the rest of her grill didn't look too bad. FWIW: I think she does have some skeletons. She offered up that she had some problems in the past but she got her shit together and is doing better now. All in all I would say well worth her donation. I may see her again for a longer visit when she comes back around to my area.

Hope this is Ok for my first review. I appreciate all the help others have offered me by replying to my questions. It's very helpful to me and I'm sure other novices out there.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good solid (LOL) choice for first review. Sara is back in Livonia this week, in case anyone else is looking for some cushy delights. I've reviewed her before, known her for a few years, and yes there are some dark episodes in the past. She seems much happier and more stable these days. The guy checking you out was her roommate / BF I'm sure. No threat there. She's definitely the one in charge of that arrangement.

Among other unique experiences Sara has given me, she is the ONLY woman who has ever smacked me with her tits. I don't mean rubbed them on my cheek, I mean clocked me upside the fucking head (left then right)! She was playing around, but those girls are DANGEROUS. It was a bit weird at the time, but I'm getting a little stiffy just remembering that shit.

Now I just wish I had some $$ on hand to make her day. Good luck y'all

I understand that money in exchange for sex is illegal in Michigan. My question is regarding Massages. If you show up for massage / body rub how is that illegal? Paying for massages is not actually illegal so how is it considered illegal (at least for the person receiving)? I guess they could prove a pattern with the SP and bust her / him but I don't see how its illegal for someone to show up for a massage.

[QUOTE=HereIam2;1866317]As far as LE stings, the minute you show up, after responding to an add for sex, they got you on "intent " regardless. Just like on Chris handsons to catch a predictor, INTENTION is ENOUGH for an arrest[/QUOTE]I thought the illegal thing here was the age of the person they were there to meet. LE has PM conversation where the (under) age is documented.

So if one were to get busted in some type of sting what is the legal classification?

Is this a simple misdemeanor with a ticket and fine?

Or is this a felony including being cuffed and stuffed into a cop car and locked up requiring someone to bail you out?

Can this land a person on the sex offender list? I mean there are stories of guys getting on the list for pissing in public!

[QUOTE=Moriarty1875; 1866663]Sounds like a good solid (LOL) choice for first review. Sara is back in Livonia this week, in case anyone else is looking for some cushy delights. I've reviewed her before, known her for a few years, and yes there are some dark episodes in the past. She seems much happier and more stable these days. The guy checking you out was her roommate / BF I'm sure. No threat there. She's definitely the one in charge of that arrangement.

Among other unique experiences Sara has given me, she is the ONLY woman who has ever smacked me with her tits. I don't mean rubbed them on my cheek, I mean clocked me upside the fucking head (left then right)! She was playing around, but those girls are DANGEROUS. It was a bit weird at the time, but I'm getting a little stiffy just remembering that shit.

Now I just wish I had some $$ on hand to make her day. Good luck why'all[/QUOTE]Based on the reflection in the mirror and the big cans, I assume this is the same Sara who used to be on the other boards as a higher end escort, got hooked on the H, and was walking in the Triangle last year, or the year before. If so, she can fuck like crazy, and used to love it in her ass. She's a good lay.

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I haven't seen anyone post about this one for a while and thought I would chime in my experience for what it's worth. She answered her phone when l called and was timely and professional. She is NOT GFE, but her skills, attitude, and hot little body delivered everything I needed to be satisfied very well. I recommend for a quick vi$it.

I've seen one of my posts copied verbatim. I think that people build their post count to get free access.

[QUOTE=FL4807;1866562]I told you guys about a dream that I had on my lunch break the other day. It was a good dream and there was nothing negative to say. Good for me. Today I started doing homework and stumble across the dream that I had told you guys about on the other site. For the record, I did not post or let anyone else post it. It kind of pisses me off that it was taken from here and from me. Have any of you had it happen before? In the dream her name is Jazz. Very easy to find.[/QUOTE]

Everybody likes a mature freak, sounds like she is one, I'm going to try and get to her this weekend maybe post some pics with my report. Any other Ginger reports ease PM me.

Be safe.

[QUOTE=PntyDrpr;1853437]I saw her for .6 and told her up front I wanted greek. She started BBBJ which was adequate. She lubed her ass with 1 finger then 2, then told me to fuck it like a pussy. I did, was tight and felt great. She is a freak as she states as she took the cover off after I finished and drained it into her mouth.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=John Wise; 1867117]With all do respect TDB, it's very important to use common sense.

Incase a big ass pimp beats his ass and takes his wallet.

TDB, something tells me you may not be cut out for this. I would hate to see something happen to you, you should stay away from BP girls for now. Stick with well reviewed service providers.

Good luck and safe hunting,

JW[/QUOTE]The fake cc's are because you don't want to lose your real ones, and you don't want your car window busted by someone looking for your real ones. JW is right. You should be cautious and keep studying. Watch your six.

[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;1867222]The fake cc's are because you don't want to lose your real ones, and you don't want your car window busted by someone looking for your real ones. JW is right. You should be cautious and keep studying. Watch your six.[/QUOTE]Read JWs old posts very well. You remind me of me a year and a half ago. I was lucky. No bad encounters. If you don't mind shelling a little money, seeking arrangement website may provide you with the kind of girls you want. I moved from BP to that. Strip clubs may also be safer for you, negotiate before you go in. Be careful.

[QUOTE=PntyDrpr;1853437]I saw her for .6 and told her up front I wanted greek. She started BBBJ which was adequate. She lubed her ass with 1 finger then 2, then told me to fuck it like a pussy. I did, was tight and felt great. She is a freak as she states as she took the cover off after I finished and drained it into her mouth.[/QUOTE]An actual review. Awesome! That's becoming a novelty.

Bored over the holiday weekend I had a dream that I fell asleep and got in the car and drove over to the east side. The hotel that I stopped at was middle of the road when it comes to value not quality. Think it may have been a old days inn or something like that. I had called before I left and was greeted with a pleasant voice that seemed nice to talk to. After chatting for a bit I was told to call when I was fifteen minutes out. I did just that and was given the hotel (696 and dequindre area) and the room number. At first knock she didn't answer. Second knock she opened the door. A quick check of the room and I locked the door. Had some small talj and the rate was. 8 for the half. It was down to business after that. Small talk during a half hearted massage. While she wasnt rushing you could tell that she was ready to be done with the massage. On the flip side I asked how she got into the business and like they all say "through a friend. I'm just trying to finish school." She admitted to being fairly new which I liked. The strokes reminded me of my first girlfriend all those years ago. FIV was for a extra. 2. BBJ was a extra. 5. There was not a push from her for the upsell. Only brought $ with me so I parted with the extra. 2 that I had. The ending was good and had a small sample of what the BBJ would be. The girl is who you see in the photos. I was greeted by her in the pink outfit. Chest is saggy but looked good when I got her on her back for a minute. There was some light kissing on the neck and ears from both of us. Overall experience was pretty good. I would repeat if I feel like driving to the east side again.

Sorry guys. Proof read my dream. Sounded good. Corrected a couple things and clicked publish. Then. I remember the link. Hoping they get posted next to each other so there isn't any unnecessary scrolling.

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Nothing came up with searches on the site, ER does have one new review, not paying that site the read the entire thing. Wonder if someone has procured her services.

Wow, John, Invaluable! Thanks for this. Close to what I typically do, but learned a lot and the step by step was awesome. Did I say thanks yet? LOL.

[QUOTE=John Wise; 1866236][b]In my recent reading I did find some posts regarding donations but I was looking for a little more insight.

The debate I was reading about (I think its in the Homework thread) was whether to pay in advance or after service were rendered. I always thought that it was cash up front and this is how I conducted business in my very limited experience. So is paying after a new trend. Is this something SP's are OK with? [/b]

The first thing you have to realize is 90% of BP girls are not SP's, they are SW's with internet access. Years ago (before CL and BP) $100 girls worked the track (the street) but then CL and BP came along and changed all that. All those $100 girls (and their pimps) got off the streets and starting posting on CL and BP. Now you have the junky $20 SW posting on BP asking for $100. So, seeing a BP girl is just as dangerous as picking up a SW off the street.

99% of any sex worker (except strippers) are not going to let you pay after, at least until you build a good relationship.

[b]My other question is how to handle the initial discussion with a new SP. When you first come into the room who makes the first move or brings up business first. Is it customary for me to just pull out the cash and set it down or do I wait for a cue from the SP?

How / when do we discuss services / menu / rules? I have also seen posts saying get the details before and after money is laid out. This kind of ties in with the question above. Who blinks first? If I don't lay out the money I would think SP is going to be reluctant to discuss services and if she is not willing to talk menu first then do I want to lay out money? [/b]

This is what I do step by step after I have done my "Research & Homework" on an BP girl I would like to see.

1) Call and say "hi my name is John and I would like to meet you, can I come see you now?" I don't ask about rates, menu, etc, just can I meet you. Also I call when I'm ready to see her. Remember, these girls are SW's with internet access, not SP's. You can't make a 2pm appointment with a SW and expect her to be ready at 2pm.

2) When I get to the notel I spend very little time doing parking lot recon, if LE is doing a sting you are not going to spot them. All the girls have pimps, so spotting him won't matter either. He's there, trust me. Usually in a second room very close by.

3) Once in the room, I nicely do things my way not hers. I introduce myself and may or may not give her a huge, then I ask to look around (bathroom, etc) if she says no I can't look around I pull the plug and leave (don't BS around, LEAVE!)

4) Once I feel comfortable that it's just me and her in the room, I ask her to show me she's not a cop. This is call a "proper LEO check." A proper LEO check is when she shows you her pussy, stomach, and tits all at the same time. It's not just a LEO check, but it's a fucked up body check, an attitude check, and a TS / TV check. If she doesn't want to do this, walkout! She is either a LEO or a B-word, and you don't want to deal with either one. Once she shows me all hers, I will show her mine.

5) Once I'm satisfied that she's not a cop, B-word, or a dude, I ask her what her do's and don'ts are (her menu) before I give her a fucking dime. Again, DO NOT pay her until you find out her menu. Don't be shy, ask. Ask how much time you get, ask if she does BBBJ or CBJ, ask if she does CG, ask if she does DFK, ask if she does DATY, ask, ask, ask, before you pay her. You don't pay for a home until you finding out it's square footage, you don't pay for a car until you find out what gas mileage it gets, so why would you pay for pussy until you find out her menu?

6) If after all that, we are still on the same page, I put a envelope with the words "phone bill" on it, on the dresser and step away.

[b]I acknowledge that if its a sting LE will likely "take me down" regardless but I still want to be cautious and develop my routine and stick with it until I become comfortable with the donation process. Or is it just always an anxious moment no matter what when you're with a new acquaintance? [/b]

Being anxious or nervous is a good thing, when you get to comfortable, that's when you F-up. But yes, it does get easier with time.[/QUOTE]

Just as heads-up, as a member who's had a history of trouble with the search function. Did lots of troubleshooting, including emailing with other members and finding that when we both took the same steps, I got weird, funky and flawed results. This was true in both the Forums I usually frequent: Backpage and Massage Parlors in Detroit. Not advanced search, but the 'search thread' box on the upper right while you're reading the forum.

However, tried it again on a whim, and now it's working flawlessly. I've heard others say it's linked to account status, so it may not be possible for newbies to RTFF still, but if you had problems in the past, like me, those may be fixed. Just thought I'd put that out there for others in the same position. Might be worth trying again. You should be logged in, and it might not be available to new members. Very cool! Might lose a few hours now searching for things I couldn't find before except by skimming, but happily so. :)

Don't ya just hate it when the provider says she's independant and they say ask for (insert name here)? If they are independant they should answer themselves. That is all

Decided to try tori, called setup was easy, had to wait a bit but when she arrived, she gave me a discount 1/2 hr for 40. Met her nice hug and french kiss. Pictures are old, nice knockers, She likes her veggies, BBJCIM and she swallowed her veggies, She was enthusiastic to say the least. Cleaned me up. Since I was nice to wait she offered me a return visit at 40, Sweet lady, I think she could suck start a harley. Worth a SS.

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Thinking of getting a body part removed? I have the answer for you. Enjoy the chuckle guys!

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[QUOTE=Eagler13; 1868412]Decided to try tori, called setup was easy, had to wait a bit but when she arrived, she gave me a discount 1/2 hr for 40. Met her nice hug and french kiss. Pictures are old, nice knockers, She likes her veggies, BBJCIM and she swallowed her veggies, She was enthusiastic to say the least. Cleaned me up. Since I was nice to wait she offered me a return visit at 40, Sweet lady, I think she could suck start a harley. Worth a SS.

[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/tori-the-specialest-avalible-like-my-veggies-whole-50-specials-30/11592077[/url][/QUOTE]Glad to see a review on her. I actually was going to meet with her due to her price and proximity to me. I called her multiple times last week at the # posted in her ad 586-XXX-8546. Every time called this # it goes to a guy named Dave's voicemail.

Called her yesterday when I notice the post with new # 586-209-6816 and she answered. She told me she was in a car accident and that is why she has not been around. She told me she lost the phone in the accident and someone else must have found it and was using it (hence some dude being on her voicemail) so she got a new phone.

The thing is if you do a search of both these #'s there are ads on both going back several months. So her explanation was not completely logical.

Maybe one # is hers and one is her bf's and they parted ways? I don't know. Just thought I'd post so you could make your own judgement.

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Scheduled a Outcall with her. She said she was in route. Waited for her called her no answer. Finally called me with some bullshit excuse. Ruined my morning waiting on her.

Damm. As she has been on my bucket list. Oh well, time to move on I suspect.

[QUOTE=Michmaddog;1863107]I posted a very favorable review of her several months ago, but more recently I have been disappointed about her failure to keep appointments. I'm not sure what the problem is-she didn't seem to have candy issues, but has been posting her availability more often (as if she has greater income needs or has learned how much she can make at the hobby).but then, after making an appointment, inexplicably fails to answer. It's too bad, and if she gets her act together she will again be a good date[/QUOTE]

New to the board. Not to the art. LOL Go back to old scorps days/

TOFTT. Glad I did She posts on BP. But takes ad down when not working. So here's a link to her info I found while reasearching.

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Noticed a New Ship that caught my eye on BP. Did my research, and decided to try out Sweet Peaches / Honey. She was very accommodating to booking my cruise in a non traditional matter after explaining my communication issues. I had a very small window of time before work, and she agreed to take me for a cruise with very short notice.

As this was our first time meeting, I was a little worried as I came to her Marina at a nicer Corporate MARINA. I think we all have that silver bracelet fear when meeting a new SP. She met me in the Hall, and damn. I liked what she was working with. Her pictures are accurate, but what you can't see are these eyes of hers. WOW

We got to the slip of the Marina. And she sat me down and made me comfortable. We went over menu, and agreed on a half hour cruise. Which was like minutes before I had to be AT work down the street. The travel fee was delivered, then she delivered her cruise preview, she took off her jeans, and her top was now a little black dress, just barely covering her awesome assets, she bent over couch, to lay her jeans out neatly, and gave me a peek of her shaved treasure.

She grabbed my hand, and led me to the boat, and BOOM goes the dynamite. The dress comes off, and she slithers up my legs and started saying hello to her new little first mate. As she introduced herself. I asked if I could play with galley, and she maneuvered herself slowly around, and let me say hi to her hidden treasure. As I was loosing my self in the warmth and wetness, I was being very shy about how hard I said hi, when she pushed backed up against me, and drove my boarding planks in deeper.

I liked this very much, and for some strange reason, she seemed to approve also. As we both laid their humming along. I felt this strange urge to just finish saying hello, and say welcome aboard. She slipped a cover on, and buried the treasure very deep and in very, very, very close quarters. She rode the bow, as I got to see her perfect heart shape stern ride the very choppy waters. The waves became to much, and I got sea sick on the port side. She let me catch my breath, and removed the main sail. It was FULL, and had to be replaced before the next storm came in. Their was more adventures, but I couldn't get Johnny Depp to help me write the screen play version.

I was very happy with my pirate adventure. And I got to work with one minute to spare, and happy ALL over.

Happy sailing guys, this one is a keeper that I hate to share, but am hoping I can book another cruise. But a little longer, and a few more masts in the ship! I understand that a shore excursion is available to the greek isles, but must be booked separate from the cruise.

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Ok so called her about a dream and told she was changing locations to call back. Cool. So I went to the store did some shopping And called back. Told her I wanted to dream and she told me how to get there. She warned me she had a girlfriend there and she would stay out of sight. I get there and it's a low end notel, but I figured it from the price. She opened the door and it is the girl in the pictures just not all dolled up. I get that a lot since I dream before noon most days. I did the check of the room said hi to her friend in the bathroom. She was cute also. I was worried about this dream because of the girl in the bathroom. We then got down to business. .40 was th ss special she undressed and had some very nice the's to large c's. Little sag but real fun bags. Good shape to her, pretty skinny. Started with CBJ that was pretty good. Then had her on top which wasn't very good then moved to a little k-9 for the finish. Should have done the k-9 out the gate she knew how to work from the bottom. She had the tilt going on. Rubbed the little hole back there and she seemed to not mind so asked about Greek and she said no. So decided to quicken the pace and she seemed to start to like it (probably just wanted it done) the va j started squeezing and made the big finish. Dumped the evidence she gave some wipes a little small talk and off I went. Think I was there a little more then 20 min. She was worth it and I will repeat if she in the area and I am looking to take a nap.

DD

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