Seeking Arrangements (SA)

This one is looking for helpers!

I haven't met, don't have time, plus going out of town!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8780379e-0007-4079-b3b5-d0529440a8d3[/URL]

[QUOTE=FreeThinker2;4418735]This one is looking for helpers!

I haven't met, don't have time, plus going out of town!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8780379e-0007-4079-b3b5-d0529440a8d3[/URL][/QUOTE]She must be inactive or maybe blocked me?

Had short visit.

Safe and on time.

No demons.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/29be10d5-1753-4f14-a949-aaa6507c4afb[/URL]

Several aspects of SA are comical you roll with it, but when the comical becomes annoying. ,. , you have to take action. I have started blocking several profiles as I noticed that the number of messages that I receive has increased substantially. I discovered that. Based on the profiles that favorited my profile, some of those profiles were trying to use my profile for marketing purposes. It's well within SA's rights to do, I suppose, since the profile is on their site based on the user agreement (deactivating the account is an option but I'm still shopping on there).

An example of the annoying stuff is attached. I laughed at first but then it became exceedingly unfully. That's all I have to say about that.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[QUOTE=MetalMan12;4415690]Where was her location? Looks like a girl in Kingsport who was offering her virginity for a grand. Got her down to a 5th of that just messing with her. LOL.[/QUOTE]They do look similar. I met her at a hotel off Cedar Bluff.

[QUOTE=BruceHatch;4409875]Her profile seemed legit. I had read it before but she's not my type so I didn't contact her. Was she bringing the girlfriend she talks about?

If it makes you feel any better I'm wasting her time now for you. I contacted asking how she was and what she up for. We've had a few messages back and forth. I have no intention to ever try and meet her I just want to screw with her now LOL.

Had one a few months ago that I had probably 50 messages with. Her first message was asking for money so I just played along. I acted like I didn't know how to use the cash app or I had sent it and it should be there. Finally at the end I was like you know I'm fucking with you right? He / she replied and said I had to try and then blocked me LMAO![/QUOTE]She didn't mention a girlfriend. Looking back, there were some red flags but I didn't see them until I had 20/20 hindsight. It makes me laugh thinking of you stringing her along. LOL.

[QUOTE=BottleNeck;4374142]I fell for it and sent her money for rent. She claimed she spent her last few buck on food. I actually did it twice I know what a dumb ass. Was suppose to meet the next day and she disappeared.[/QUOTE]Email customer service about what she did, they may ask for screenshots but they will delete her profile. The Reporting tool on the site does not work, they seem to ignore it, but someone else got scammed and had luck emailing customer service and they deleted her profile. She keeps trying to create new ones, he keeps emailing customer service and they keep deleting them. Email them at [EMAIL]seekingarrangement@datesupporter.com[/EMAIL].

Hopefully it wasn't an expensive lesson, but these scams are all over SA. Gas money, rent money, need to feed my dogs. Most of these people aren't even real, who they say they are or located in your town. Never, ever send money online, it's always a scam, I don't care how convincing it is. If you're new to this, check out this thread, it's the bible on SA. You'll have a much better experience and never get scammed again. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2619514&viewfull=1[/URL].

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4424094]Email customer service about what she did, they may ask for screenshots but they will delete her profile. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BottleNeck;4374142]I fell for it and sent her money for rent. She claimed she spent her last few buck on food. I actually did it twice I know what a dumb ass. Was suppose to meet the next day and she disappeared.[/QUOTE][red]Let it go, chalk it up to the game, and take it as a lesson that you've already learned[/red]. Focus more on finding new & exciting women to spend your money on and time with; don't get SA involved in trying to help make a situation inherently wrong,. ,. , somewhat right by you. It's also illegal to purchase street pharmaceuticals from a dealer using fake bills, but would you really want to get any authorities involved in making you whole with that (along with the supporting evidence they'd demand)? You never know wnere those types of rabbit holes may lead. Move on, let it go brother, and let karma handle the bish.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

Has any one met or have news on her?

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;4424438][red]Let it go, chalk it up to the game, and take it as a lesson that you've already learned[/red]. Focus more on finding new & exciting women to spend your money on and time with; don't get SA involved in trying to help make a situation inherently wrong,. ,. , somewhat right by you. It's also illegal to purchase street pharmaceuticals from a dealer using fake bills, but would you really want to get any authorities involved in making you whole with that (along with the supporting evidence they'd demand)? You never know wnere those types of rabbit holes may lead. Move on, let it go brother, and let karma handle the bish.

Stay safe,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]Sage advice as always MM, I agree 100%.

Kilo.

So I took the plunge on this one! Based on the couple of vague reviews, and her hot pics it was game on. Quick response and easy to schedule, although I had to repeat information already communicated frequently to get her to my door. I was worried that she wasn't legit, but she is. Just very much an awkward newbie at this game. Needs one of you more experienced mongers to break her in. I certainly didn't. To sum it up, zero chit chat once she arrived, showed up dressed up as a hockey player with thick clothes, and in no way dolled up. Way over spent for the experience. Definitely 19, but not anywhere near the experiences I had with 19 years old when I use get to f. K 19 years old as a young buck. Will not repeat. Hope this helps someone about to pull the trigger.

[QUOTE=AsiansBoy;4410698]That's crazy man. I just met her the other day for just 200.[/QUOTE]She just showed up again this week. I've contacted her, but a little hesitate because she's having incall only at a north apartment around ridgewood.

Did you met her at her apartment? Any info is really appreciated. May I'm too cautious. Thanks.

Someone help me out with what you Type in the required fields to get approval! Thanks LB.

Doesn't matter. Just fill it in and remember the info for the verify when you put in the CC info.

[QUOTE=Laynbody;4428334]

Someone help me out with what you Type in the required fields to get approval! Thanks LB.[/QUOTE]

She is nice looking young good body and fun. We do again.

Considering venturing into the SA waters. Probably my greatest concern is potential drama from younger and inexperienced women. For those who use SA, do you find drama with ladies on SA a regular thing to be dealt with? You sharing your thoughts and experiences would be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=JoeKnox555;4432302]Considering venturing into the SA waters. Probably my greatest concern is potential drama from younger and inexperienced women. For those who use SA, do you find drama with ladies on SA a regular thing to be dealt with? You sharing your thoughts and experiences would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Well they are women so of course there is drama. I look for the ages of 25-35 so it cuts out some of the drama. I am married and had a couple dates with a 21 Year old from SA and that evening she got drunk and called and texted me 21 times. Luckily it is an app and it didn't alert me but I learned my lesson. Certainly should use an app until you get to know them. I am looking for more of Long Term emotional connection type SD SB arrangements so I don't know about the girls who are pay for play. The worst thing ever happen to me from there is I got emotionally involved with a late 20's girl I saw for awhile and when we agreed to end it I got hurt.

[QUOTE=JoeKnox555;4432302]Considering venturing into the SA waters. Probably my greatest concern is potential drama from younger and inexperienced women. For those who use SA, do you find drama with ladies on SA a regular thing to be dealt with? You sharing your thoughts and experiences would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]I've had the best luck with girls 25-30 that made a mistake and have a kid. They can usually host and don't have roommates. Plus by then they really need the help and know there way around a dick!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ab2c91f1-a4cc-4c70-8e44-a375dceeb8ae[/URL] Any info on this on thanks.

[QUOTE=JimTom31;4433079][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ab2c91f1-a4cc-4c70-8e44-a375dceeb8ae[/URL] Any info on this on thanks.[/QUOTE]I talked to her. She seems to want a platonic SD. Basically wanting something for nothing.

Fellow Mongers,

I will, in the near future, be dipping my "wick" in the SA pool. I have read back at least 60 pages on the SA thread and have gleaned a few pointers. Use a prepaid Vanilla Visa, watch how you word your messages, move the convo off SA as soon as possible are a few. I would appreciate any other pointers you have concerning this subject. A question I do have for the ones who are now on SA is if you provided a pic of yourself? I will say thank you in advance for any assistance.

Contacted me on SB. Typical B. S. Can you help me out and send me some cash to my cash app, broke down and stuck in N.C. , I will make it up later. These girls need to come up with a better line,told her can't leave home and travel if you can't get back or have the cash to get back.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d3240a09-b255-4cee-abfd-92c0abd843af[/URL]

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/app/profile/4f58e27fad5ffb05[/URL]

[QUOTE=UrTexasBiker;4433458]Contacted me on SB. Typical B. S. Can you help me out and send me some cash to my cash app, broke down and stuck in N.C. , I will make it up later. These girls need to come up with a better line,told her can't leave home and travel if you can't get back or have the cash to get back.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d3240a09-b255-4cee-abfd-92c0abd843af[/URL]

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/app/profile/4f58e27fad5ffb05[/URL][/QUOTE]I've seen her before and can vouch that she can perform, and perform well at that.

But yeah, sounds like typical B. S. I wouldn't ever prepay for services, even if I've seen them before.

YRWISH12 she has been on the site for some time showing Knoxville. Does anyone have news on her?

[QUOTE=KnoxOldGuy;4432570]I've had the best luck with girls 25-30 that made a mistake and have a kid. They can usually host and don't have roommates. Plus by then they really need the help and know there way around a dick![/QUOTE]Old guy has it right. Collect some #s and realize you are not going after a pro.

[QUOTE=Jd195;4436005]YRWISH12 she has been on the site for some time showing Knoxville. Does anyone have news on her?[/QUOTE]She puts Knox in her bio, but is actually in Greenville, TN. We agreed to meet in Straw Plains and she ghosted me. She sis ask for "gas" money which I told her I'd give her when we met so she may just be a scammer.

[QUOTE=Macintn;4433271]Fellow Mongers,

I will, in the near future, be dipping my "wick" in the SA pool. I have read back at least 60 pages on the SA thread and have gleaned a few pointers. Use a prepaid Vanilla Visa, watch how you word your messages, move the convo off SA as soon as possible are a few. I would appreciate any other pointers you have concerning this subject. A question I do have for the ones who are now on SA is if you provided a pic of yourself? I will say thank you in advance for any assistance.[/QUOTE]Decide what you want. It is easy to ask the lady if she is looking for a "long term arrangement" or "short term encounters" and by that you can tell what they want typically. My public pic is a picture that looks kinda like me and is blurred. My private pictures are me and I have one of those. Typically I save sending pictures until we text and I use Google voice for texting. I use a fake name and the app to keep myself private until I am comfortable revealing all that info. I am looking for long term, so typically we start texting sending pics etc. Then we have a lunch in a public place and I give between $60 and $100 just for meeting. I then decide if I want to see them again and make a second date or tell them that we just don't have the connection I am looking for. I have met many of the ladies between 25 and 35 on the site and have a few I have seen more than once but still deciding and searching of who I want to settle in with long term.

[QUOTE=LayenLow;4437185]Decide what you want. It is easy to ask the lady if she is looking for a "long term arrangement" or "short term encounters" and by that you can tell what they want typically. My public pic is a picture that looks kinda like me and is blurred. My private pictures are me and I have one of those. Typically I save sending pictures until we text and I use Google voice for texting. I use a fake name and the app to keep myself private until I am comfortable revealing all that info. I am looking for long term, so typically we start texting sending pics etc. Then we have a lunch in a public place and I give between $60 and $100 just for meeting. I then decide if I want to see them again and make a second date or tell them that we just don't have the connection I am looking for. I have met many of the ladies between 25 and 35 on the site and have a few I have seen more than once but still deciding and searching of who I want to settle in with long term.[/QUOTE]Try to keep yourself hidden as much as possible. I have had a few try and blackmail me through social media and say they got my tag number. I have even had one cause a seen at a restaurant because she said I didn't give her enough money for the date. Those are far and between. But it is still well worth it. In my opinion.

My job has me on the road a lot. I rarely play when I'm home but when I'm out it's easy. Is SA something that would work in most areas? Never used it as the price has always been more than I'm interested in.

[QUOTE=LayenLow;4437185]Decide what you want. It is easy to ask the lady if she is looking for a "long term arrangement" or "short term encounters" and by that you can tell what they want typically. My public pic is a picture that looks kinda like me and is blurred. My private pictures are me and I have one of those. Typically I save sending pictures until we text and I use Google voice for texting. I use a fake name and the app to keep myself private until I am comfortable revealing all that info. I am looking for long term, so typically we start texting sending pics etc. Then we have a lunch in a public place and I give between $60 and $100 just for meeting. I then decide if I want to see them again and make a second date or tell them that we just don't have the connection I am looking for. I have met many of the ladies between 25 and 35 on the site and have a few I have seen more than once but still deciding and searching of who I want to settle in with long term.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the tips LL and VW.

Lola is real. And a fantastic fck. She is batcrap crazy, so don't tell her your name. But she needs some cash pretty badly.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/44d857bf-1e1c-47f7-aae2-b786196dde7e[/URL]

Says her friend is getting $$ each week, told her. Her friend is lucky!

Anyone see:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2dfeacc8-476d-4354-9be2-d74c5f9632d9[/URL]

PM thnaks.

FT2.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker2;4439333]Says her friend is getting $$ each week, told her. Her friend is lucky!

Anyone see:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2dfeacc8-476d-4354-9be2-d74c5f9632d9[/URL]

PM thnaks.

FT2.[/QUOTE]Is this expensive in your mind? $800 per month is a deal for a SB arrangement. I did $1,200.00 per month in my last arrangement and would still do that amount for the right lady.

What are other SD paying on the site?

[QUOTE=LayenLow;4440496]Is this expensive in your mind? $800 per month is a deal for a SB arrangement. I did $1,200.00 per month in my last arrangement and would still do that amount for the right lady.

What are other SD paying on the site?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreeThinker2;4439333]Says her friend is getting $$ each week, told her. Her friend is lucky!

PM thnaks.

FT2.[/QUOTE]It's difficult to say whether or not it is "expensive" without a context of the amount of time received for that service, regardless of how hot the gal is perceived to be. You have guys paying $$ per hour for essentially. ,. ,. , streetwalkers with room for the night, bonafide grannies _ real grandmas, women in their 40's with so much plastic surgery they don't look feminine any more, gals supporting serious substance habits, gal with extensive arrest records, BBWs _ regardless of age _ charging by the pound, and even worse than all of that. The pro providers charge what they do because somebody will pay it, not necessarily dudes on this board, but somebody is paying what they request. Expensive is a relative term anyway, but I always strive to get as much as possible of a quality product for as little as spent as possible.

I pontificated on this rate issue in the UTR Thread but I'll flesh it out a bit more here. SA takes more work than many of you are willing to or have the time to put into it. If you don't have the time, just go to a pro ho and pay by the hour. Gals on SA don't consider themselves sex workers in the traditional sense. ,. , but we know that they are because they are ultimately selling pussy. SA and professional providers are different enough such that the rates between the two groups cannot be reliably compared. I've been using SA heavily for over seven years and focus on the ladies ages 22-35, spinner to athletic build. All height and weight proportionate, and those claiming to be students, single moms, and / or those in lower paying jobs just want to make ends meet. My search criteria excludes women outside those basic demographics. I usually spend multiple hours with SBs per week. I have a lot of success with the cheerleader, stripper and TwynPeeks / Huuters types for those in their 20's,. ,. , and the hot MILF, single mom type for those in the 30-35 range.

I don't make any initial offers, and simply ask what they expect to get for their time (time spent in the sheets, not time spent watching Netflix or having a meal out together). I expect them to have done some type of research. With so many options available, I resort to "No thanks" often and quickly; they generally come back around shortly after. [RED]For the Knoxville, TN area on SA .,., my average per hour has been 62.50 and I've never given a gal on SA more than 100 per hour regardless of how hot she is (recall, I ask what she expects to get for her time)[/RED].

After meeting successfully several times, I often transition them to a monthly allowance for an amount which they offer. I maintain more than one SB at a time. For example, if one of them asks for 500 per month, I'm getting at least 8 hours of visits out of her during that month; usually many more hours than that. I consider the monthly the way to go and I have clear expectations of what I expect (a couple of gals at 500/month has worked wonders). Anything approaching the provider hourly average for this area (roughly 185 per hour), I'd just go to a pro ho on an as-needed basis and would never pay that to a gal on SA.

We don't all pay the same to the same professional providers, so that's no different for SA either. I do, however, believe in tipping generously for excellent service and treatment (which isn't included in the average per hour quoted above). The illusion of scarcity blinds guys from using innovative approaches to finding quality, perceived low-volume women, who are merely trying to make ends meet and are not looking at being a provider as a profession. You won't find the bulk of those advertised anywhere. I appreciate the pro hos wholeheartedly, but with enough pre-work and due diligence, you really won't need to deal with pro hos and those types of rates on a regular basis. I fully expect your experience to be different than mine, so it's within the true spirit of YMMV.

Know before you go. ,.

Milfman.

About 3 years ago, I had the deal of the century with a hot af college senior. Complete newbie. Pres of her sorority, clean, honor student. $500/ month, all you can eat. Included overnights, too. Her last semester she didn't have but two classes, which created tons of opportunities plus she lived alone in a nice Sequoyah Hills apartment.

My current situation is $1,000/ month fixed, plus "employee benefits," LOL.

[QUOTE=LayenLow;4440496]Is this expensive in your mind? $800 per month is a deal for a SB arrangement. I did $1,200.00 per month in my last arrangement and would still do that amount for the right lady.

What are other SD paying on the site?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LayenLow;4440496]Is this expensive in your mind? $800 per month is a deal for a SB arrangement. I did $1,200.00 per month in my last arrangement and would still do that amount for the right lady.

What are other SD paying on the site?[/QUOTE]Put wrong amount it was 400 $ A visit.

[QUOTE=LayenLow;4440496]Is this expensive in your mind? $800 per month is a deal for a SB arrangement. I did $1,200.00 per month in my last arrangement and would still do that amount for the right lady.

What are other SD paying on the site?[/QUOTE]I've had two SB's that have extended beyond the first few visits. Both were able to provide a location to meet and both seemed to be UTR. I've averaged 220 a visit. I have averaged seeing each twice a month. Seriously taking notes on MILFmans recommendations, as I have been unable to convert my UTR's to a frequency that gets me laid on a more often basis at a proper.

Exchange rate for services received verses sticking with the pros.

Does anyone have any advice on her expected rates? Interested in her look and info before I invest any more time. PM's would be much appreciated!

Thanks, guys.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ff02b240-0b6d-4851-a1df-03919632ffb6[/URL]

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;4441206]Thanks, guys.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ff02b240-0b6d-4851-a1df-03919632ffb6[/URL][/QUOTE]Deactivated.