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[QUOTE=Gaghoes]nobody in their right mind would make the argument that going BB on a prostitute is less risky than using a condom on several of them.[/quote]Again, you miss the point. If you're mongering excessively, then condom or no, your risk is higher than mine, despite the fact that I occasionally go BB.
If you want hard figures, efficacy studies typically place condoms between 70-98% effective, depending on the particular disease studied and other factors. If you also engage in activities a condom doesn't protect (DATY, DFK) the rate is even lower.
Overall, and assuming no such other activities, a condom is roughly 9-10 times safer than going unprotected. For uncircumcised men (who face a higher risk due to the thinner skin on the glans) the rate is higher...but for men who are circumcised, the rate is actually a bit lower.
The rough corollary of that statement is that a person who engages ten times in protected vaginal intercourse is bearing about the same risk as someone who engages a single time unprotected. (Again, higher if you're uncircumcised, else lower).
The figures are far different for anal intercourse...the risk factor is far higher there, and a condom provides correspondingly higher degrees of protection.
In summary, the flawed argument is yours, not mine. Your condom isn't a magic shield, bestowed by your fairy godmother. It's a tool that reduces risk per encounter...but a large number of such encounters can and does far outweigh the fact that you're protected within them.
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[QUOTE=Ttown Tom]Again, you miss the point. If you're mongering excessively, then condom or no, your risk is higher than mine, despite the fact that I occasionally go BB.
If you want hard figures, efficacy studies typically place condoms between 70-98% effective, depending on the particular disease studied and other factors. If you also engage in activities a condom doesn't protect (DATY, DFK) the rate is even lower.
Overall, and assuming no such other activities, a condom is roughly 9-10 times safer than going unprotected. For uncircumcised men (who face a higher risk due to the thinner skin on the glans) the rate is higher...but for men who are circumcised, the rate is actually a bit lower.
The rough corollary of that statement is that a person who engages ten times in protected vaginal intercourse is bearing about the same risk as someone who engages a single time unprotected. (Again, higher if you're uncircumcised, else lower).
The figures are far different for anal intercourse...the risk factor is far higher there, and a condom provides correspondingly higher degrees of protection.
In summary, the flawed argument is yours, not mine. Your condom isn't a magic shield, bestowed by your fairy godmother. It's a tool that reduces risk per encounter...but a large number of such encounters can and does far outweigh the fact that you're protected within them.[/QUOTE]
I didn't miss the point you were TRYING to make.Your throughly presented, yet still flawed argument, didn't provide any hard numbers in regard to the OTHER JOHNS, which is the most important factor! Unless you can somehow control the frequency at which this prostitute is fucking other guys BB, your risk of catching something is still much higher than someone who protects himself when mongering frequently. Occasionally fucking a prostitute who consistently fucks several guys BB doesn't make you any safer. It only makes you naive. As I told somebody who PMed me on this issue, there isn't any possible way to spin this so that your activity is less risky than someone who uses condoms.
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[QUOTE=Secretshopper]When you say "it's how often" are you referring to the mongerer or the escort, SW, Provider?[/QUOTE]Well lets see. Govt stats say that only 17 % of us are using condoms all the time so by those stats at least 60% of the population should by dying from something by now. Right.
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Oh no I wasn't talking about the BB conversation. I was just talking in general. I can't do the BB thing. Actually I have not run into providers that don't reach for the protection first or ask if you brought one.
[QUOTE=Astor Bryan]Ask Ttown Tomhe, he might know ladies that offer bare back anal. I shudder to even think about this.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Blkmoney]Does anyone do anal with providers? OR where can we find willing participants?[/QUOTE]
There are providers who do greek ... although most will charge some outrageous extra cost to do so. There are a few black providers on CL who advertise greek for reasonable rates. Now have any of us here seen them to vouch for their services is another question.
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I recently saw this girl. Let me tell you, outstanding. We had complete chemistry. I recommend her. Simply amazing. PM me for details.
[url]http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ers/693047289.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Bbandit X]There are providers who do greek ... although most will charge some outrageous extra cost to do so. There are a few black providers on CL who advertise greek for reasonable rates. Now have any of us here seen them to vouch for their services is another question.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know. Just looking for some referals I guess. Hay when are we going to start posting some monger out in the field action photos on here? Some reconnaissance shots are good too.
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And lets drop the STD talk and get back to the reviews.
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[QUOTE=Blkmoney]Oh no I wasn't talking about the BB conversation. I was just talking in general. I can't do the BB thing. Actually I have not run into providers that don't reach for the protection first or ask if you brought one.[/QUOTE]I can't do it either, though it's been offered to me by some higher dollar providers that weren't from CL.
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[QUOTE=Svtcobra]And lets drop the STD talk and get back to the reviews.[/QUOTE]Xs 2!
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[QUOTE=Svtcobra]And lets drop the STD talk and get back to the reviews.[/QUOTE]
You mean useless reviews where we post links to CL ads and then say "PM me for details?"
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[QUOTE=Gaghoes]You mean useless reviews where we post links to CL ads and then say "PM me for details?"[/QUOTE]Not entirely useless if further details are available. The really useless ones don't link to an ad, or otherwise give contact info, or offer other details via PM.
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Look on Eros for Kenya
[QUOTE=Blkmoney]Does anyone do anal with providers? OR where can we find willing participants?[/QUOTE]She is one of the best Greek providers in Atlanta, and does it because she loves it, not for extra donations.
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Taylor Simone?
Has anyone seen TAYLOR SIMONE, 770-895-8661? She posts regularly.
[url]http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ers/690596550.html[/url]
BTW, don't waste you time/$ on Alyssa, 404-343-9442. Pics are old. Rushes you and looks are 6 at best.
[url]http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ers/694573327.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth]Not entirely useless if further details are available. The really useless ones don't link to an ad, or otherwise give contact info, or offer other details via PM.[/QUOTE]
Imagine a message board full of posts where we all say "PM me for further details." The forum would become entirely useless and unsearchable. The exchange of info would come to a grinding halt. Also, one of things that keeps this board somewhat honest is the scrutiny of all the mongers registered here. Remember that idiot who posted a fake pic a few weeks ago and claimed it was some hot ass undiscovered SW? Nobody believes a damn thing that loser says now (and rightfully so) because another observant member poked all kinds of holes in his weak shit.
Protecting the phone number of a UTR provider or not giving an exact location where service can be obtained are a couple good reasons to instruct trusted viewers to PM for more info. But a post where some jerk says "o yes, she's good, we connected, now PM me for more details" is utterly useless. We don't know what services were offered, we don't know if the pics accurately reflect her, we don't know anything, and we shouldn't have to have a security clearance to get that type of info.
I stick by my declaration that it was a COMPLETELY useless post.
