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[QUOTE=SimonJonesUK;7035367]I got to know--what is "GPS?[/QUOTE]Golden Pussy Syndrome. When a girl gets one too many compliments and thinks her pussy is made of gold. She raises her rates and expects people to pay. Unfortunately, the only known cure is for the market to say no.
400 is quite a jump and a worrying trend. There have always been experiments with premier girl pricing but the goto system is to keep most girls at a similar level and just let the better girls get more bookings. Otherwise past a certain point you price out a lot of customers who are just not interested above a certain rate. Kgirl prices are already a premium to begin with, a step up from AMP and corg pricing.
So the question becomes are there enough customers willing to pay more to justify it. Many times it has not been sustainable, dropping in a few weeks once the hype dies down. Only time will tell, we vote with our wallets.
At corgs some girls are charging 200 for bb, or charging an extra 100 just for cip. So count us lucky. It could be worse.
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C Orgs
[QUOTE=FreeWally;7035875]Golden Pussy Syndrome. When a girl gets one too many compliments and thinks her pussy is made of gold. She raises her rates and expects people to pay. Unfortunately, the only known cure is for the market to say no.
400 is quite a jump and a worrying trend. There have always been experiments with premier girl pricing but the goto system is to keep most girls at a similar level and just let the better girls get more bookings. Otherwise past a certain point you price out a lot of customers who are just not interested above a certain rate. Kgirl prices are already a premium to begin with, a step up from AMP and corg pricing.
So the question becomes are there enough customers willing to pay more to justify it. Many times it has not been sustainable, dropping in a few weeks once the hype dies down. Only time will tell, we vote with our wallets..[/QUOTE]There are the run of the mill C-Orgs that network AMPs, houses, and hotels. And then there are the exclusive clubs. The exclusive clubs bring in college students, up and coming models, actresses, and J Girls. They even recruit multi ethnic backgrounds, too to spice things up. SBC is trying to break into that premium pricing echelon. Whether they have the quality to match is up to debate.
Personally for myself and the KGirls, I try to maintain the standard that a $350 + BB provider should be:
1) Hot.
2) Young (21-30).
3) Skilled.
4) Decent to conversational English.
We shouldn't be getting any newbie North Koreans at this price point.
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Annita / leeca
Anyone know if she is in the so cal area? Or if she's coming back to OC. I didn't get a chance to ask her.
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[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7034799]Well, this is disappointing.
Mocha's rate has now changed to 400/ hr with no MSOG at all. She use to be 350/ hr with a 50 upcharge for the second shot that I took advantage of.
I'm not sure if it's because of the change in location or because she's getting popular.
Still, for a GFE only provider at 350/ hr with her looks and ok service, I thought it quite reasonable and placed her in my recommend list. However, personally for me, the increase in rate and the absence of a MSOG option is a deal breaker. Therefore, I will rescind my recommendation. See others like Sery or Bella (Thai) if you want GFE only in OC. Haven't seen Amil so no clue what she's like.
Don't get me wrong, a provider can charge whatever they like and offer whatever services that they are comfortable with. But, as customers, we have the right to evaluate and / or recommend if a provider is worth seeing based on our own individual criteria. I'll miss her pretty face and phat ass but when I get a whiff of GPS, I know it's time to head for the door and look elsewhere. Luckily for us, LA / OC has lots of options.[/QUOTE]The demand will determine whether her rate is sustainable. Bell's LA ad no longer has the "no second" restriction, implying MSOG is now available.
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[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7034799]Well, this is disappointing.
Mocha's rate has now changed to 400/ hr with no MSOG at all. She use to be 350/ hr with a 50 upcharge for the second shot that I took advantage of.
I'm not sure if it's because of the change in location or because she's getting popular.
Still, for a GFE only provider at 350/ hr with her looks and ok service, I thought it quite reasonable and placed her in my recommend list. However, personally for me, the increase in rate and the absence of a MSOG option is a deal breaker. Therefore, I will rescind my recommendation. See others like Sery or Bella (Thai) if you want GFE only in OC. Haven't seen Amil so no clue what she's like.
Don't get me wrong, a provider can charge whatever they like and offer whatever services that they are comfortable with. But, as customers, we have the right to evaluate and / or recommend if a provider is worth seeing based on our own individual criteria. I'll miss her pretty face and phat ass but when I get a whiff of GPS, I know it's time to head for the door and look elsewhere. Luckily for us, LA / OC has lots of options.[/QUOTE]Bummer she looks fun. I'm totally good with finding hot girls in my acceptable price range. Some of these girls GFE for 4 bills and up, MSOG and even the BBFS upcharges are a no go for me unless I have the urge with an ATF otherwise for me its too much money flying out with the number of girls I've been seeing.
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Gps
[QUOTE=SimonJonesUK;7035367]I got to know--what is "GPS?[/QUOTE]Head over to the PD site and you will get a healthy dose of GPS. And they will sprinkle in rudely worded rules in their bio / menu. Hard pass.
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Yeah
[QUOTE=Randy62;7036164]Head over to the PD site and you will get a healthy dose of GPS. And they will sprinkle in rudely worded rules in their bio / menu. Hard pass.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Like rude shit such as "no bare" or "deposit required". The best is "FMTY". I'm shuddering as I'm typing this bullshit out! Lmao.
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[QUOTE=HornyToad75;7036142]The demand will determine whether her rate is sustainable. Bell's LA ad no longer has the "no second" restriction, implying MSOG is now available.[/QUOTE]I doubt it's available, the standard has always been to list msog explicitly, doesn't matter if it's an upcharge or included.
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[QUOTE=BigZhangMang;7036049]There are the run of the mill C-Orgs that network AMPs, houses, and hotels. And then there are the exclusive clubs. The exclusive clubs bring in college students, up and coming models, actresses, and J Girls. They even recruit multi ethnic backgrounds, too to spice things up. SBC is trying to break into that premium pricing echelon. Whether they have the quality to match is up to debate.
Personally for myself and the KGirls, I try to maintain the standard that a $350 + BB provider should be:
1) Hot.
2) Young (21-30).
3) Skilled.
4) Decent to conversational English.
We shouldn't be getting any newbie North Koreans at this price point.[/QUOTE]That's a pretty high bar even for the exclusive clubs to meet much less kgirls in general. I'd already be pretty stoked if they can pin down 1 and 3 well. I can make do if they are a bit older and can't communicate well.
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[QUOTE=BigZhangMang;7036194]Yeah. Like rude shit such as "no bare" or "deposit required". The best is "FMTY". I'm shuddering as I'm typing this bullshit out! Lmao.[/QUOTE]FMTY now that made me spit my coffee.
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[QUOTE=Randy62;7037034]FMTY now that made me spit my coffee.[/QUOTE]OK please elaborate. No clue what that means.
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[QUOTE=Kenshin88;7037726]OK please elaborate. No clue what that means.[/QUOTE]Fly Me To You.
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[QUOTE=Kenshin88;7037726]OK please elaborate. No clue what that means.[/QUOTE]FMTY = fly me to you. You you take a golden pussy good enough for a pedestal, and you pay her plane ticket and a few k to bring her to you. Where she can suck up your money exclusively and she's all yours. Maybe even take her out shopping so you can make the experience even dumber. Don't know why you'd do that when there are way better kgirls, but it's your money. Would never recommend.
There must be an element of sugaring to that that some guys like. I don't see the point. I date girls and have never paid for it. Separate the sex from the dating. Pay for the sex. Pay them to go away. If you vibe, you can even sometimes date but only after you've done everything you wanted to them in bed. Otherwise you're setting yourself up for regret and paying more than you need to for very little. Don't mix sex and dating with working girls. Speaking from experience.
If a girl is good enough, go to her. Pay her regular rate. Don't give her any hint you could be paying more, you will not get your money's worth by showing off.
I'm all-in with that rule. I will be taking a trip to Japan next Spring, making my "tour" of girls I know. I'll be writing new guides as Traveler X assuming I discover new shops and options. It is way easier to go somewhere yourself for weeks of fun, never regretted it in 20 years. Don't spend that money flying a girl to you for just a day. Recipe for disappointment.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7021901&viewfull=1#post7021901[/URL] Everything guide to Japan
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=6992852#post6992852[/URL] $26 bjs by A-tier girls in Japan
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5030-Strip-Club-Reports&p=7022430&viewfull=1#post7022430[/URL] My strip club date (date #2)
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2942753&viewfull=1#post2942753[/URL] Dating 3 girls at a time, or why I have 0 reviews this month. DTB
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I didn't set that bar
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7036776]That's a pretty high bar even for the exclusive clubs to meet much less kgirls in general. I'd already be pretty stoked if they can pin down 1 and 3 well. I can make do if they are a bit older and can't communicate well.[/QUOTE]I didn't set that bar. Chicks like Baby Peach, Celine, and Loew did!
Then there's the 340 an hr girls like Baby Kendall and Baby Blue / Winter. Where you get Hot, young, service, with broken English LOL. Then there's the 320 + upcharge girls where you sacrifice one or two stats like youth and or comm skills.
Nadia is an outlier as her comm skills and service aren't up to snuff. But her donation is up there. That's why I haven't repeated. She's hot tho.
But yeah, I'm mostly happy with whoever's behind the door. That's thanks to the feedback shared on these forums.
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[QUOTE=FreeWally;7037785]FMTY = fly me to you. You you take a golden pussy good enough for a pedestal, and you pay her plane ticket and a few k to bring her to you. Where she can suck up your money exclusively and she's all yours. Maybe even take her out shopping so you can make the experience even dumber. Don't know why you'd do that when there are way better kgirls, but it's your money. Would never recommend.
There must be an element of sugaring to that that some guys like. I don't see the point. I date girls and have never paid for it. Separate the sex from the dating. Pay for the sex. Pay them to go away. If you vibe, you can even sometimes date but only after you've done everything you wanted to them in bed. Otherwise you're setting yourself up for regret and paying more than you need to for very little. Don't mix sex and dating with working girls. Speaking from experience.
If a girl is good enough, go to her. Pay her regular rate. Don't give her any hint you could be paying more, you will not get your money's worth by showing off.
I'm all-in with that rule. I will be taking a trip to Japan next Spring, making my "tour" of girls I know. I'll be writing new guides as Traveler X assuming I discover new shops and options. It is way easier to go somewhere yourself for weeks of fun, never regretted it in 20 years. Don't spend that money flying a girl to you for just a day. Recipe for disappointment.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7021901&viewfull=1#post7021901[/URL] Everything guide to Japan
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=6992852#post6992852[/URL] $26 bjs by A-tier girls in Japan
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5030-Strip-Club-Reports&p=7022430&viewfull=1#post7022430[/URL] My strip club date (date #2)
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2942753&viewfull=1#post2942753[/URL] Dating 3 girls at a time, or why I have 0 reviews this month. DTB[/QUOTE]Enjoy your trip! Thanks for the wisdom!