[QUOTE=BadBird;7086766]Is Harmony at Bogarts still working the night shift?[/QUOTE]Yes, but sometimes she is at Henry's.
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[QUOTE=BadBird;7086766]Is Harmony at Bogarts still working the night shift?[/QUOTE]Yes, but sometimes she is at Henry's.
[QUOTE=DeanDuber;7086488]I appreciate all of your guys advice. Before I received a certain PM I went to the most local club to me, chapeau vert lounge. Apparently this was mistake number one. But let me say, I am creeping up on 30, fairly clean shaven and apparently look like a cop? I come in pay the cover, head to the bar and order a drink. A lady comes over and I am not interested. Friendly but I end up telling her thank you but no thank you. Once I get my drink and some singles if need be. I go off the side booth to sit and watch the girl on stage / scope talent. This chicken comes over, bigger girl. And she goes "you the po-lice?" And starts to feel me for a wire lmao. I smirk at her let her touch me all over and go "yeah I'm the po-lice". Then she laughs and settles a bit. Now I'm thinking, bigger girls got a reputation for one thing that I know I'm interested in. So I directly ask for a BJ. She goes we don't do that here anymore. I go okay damn. And she offers a dance starting at a 100 $ to which I kindly decline. She then goes "okay, I'll let everyone know you're the po-lice". I just said K, finished my drink and left considering one of the worst girls there said there was no extras. Annoying experience.[/QUOTE]DD,
I am crying with you.
I usually go to BTs or Sliver Criket. Try one of those and you should have a different experience. I have never been to chapeau vert lounge, and now I now why.
MM.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7086575]This year is my first with this hobby (and likely the most fun, I need to cut back a bit). It's been fun but I've gone too many times so the girls know me and what I'm looking for. I miss the thrill of seeing a new girl and hoping I can catch her attention without spending too much on stage tips. I've heard that Detroit clubs attract dancers from across the country in the winter and they're hopping busy. I know that's somewhat true, my regular girl is from Texas originally and said she moved here because it's shitty there.
It seems counter intuitive to me since the weather is so crappy. What say you, more experienced connoisseurs?[/QUOTE]D99,
This has not been my experience. Right around now the clubs start to empty out. Many Michigan snow birds leave for the winter to warmer climates, and the mongers with the coin to relocate, cause the dancers to follow them.
Certainly not all the girls leave as many have family reasons for staying in Michigan. One of my most favorite girls was talking about how much her income dropped last January and February. She couldn't wait for the warmer weather.
As the snowbirds return in April and May the girls follow them back up here. Also Florida and Texas and Arizona are all miserable places to be weather-wise in the summer. It is the opposite of being in Michigan in the winter.
I have found the best times to Monger are in May and June through September. Each May / June there is a new round of high school and college graduates that look for ways to make money. Even girls who go to college need to work during the summer and they try to earn their tuition. And even girls who are flipping burgers or folding sweaters tend to keep those jobs and change in the springtime. Something about warmer weather makes them try stripping. All these girl added to the dancers moving back to chase the rich snowbirds makes for a robust selection during the summer.
MM.
[QUOTE=DeanDuber;7086488]I appreciate all of your guys advice. Before I received a certain PM I went to the most local club to me, chapeau vert lounge. Apparently this was mistake number one. But let me say, I am creeping up on 30, fairly clean shaven and apparently look like a cop? I come in pay the cover, head to the bar and order a drink. A lady comes over and I am not interested. Friendly but I end up telling her thank you but no thank you. Once I get my drink and some singles if need be. I go off the side booth to sit and watch the girl on stage / scope talent. This chicken comes over, bigger girl. And she goes "you the po-lice?" And starts to feel me for a wire lmao. I smirk at her let her touch me all over and go "yeah I'm the po-lice". Then she laughs and settles a bit. Now I'm thinking, bigger girls got a reputation for one thing that I know I'm interested in. So I directly ask for a BJ. She goes we don't do that here anymore. I go okay damn. And she offers a dance starting at a 100 $ to which I kindly decline. She then goes "okay, I'll let everyone know you're the po-lice". I just said K, finished my drink and left considering one of the worst girls there said there was no extras. Annoying experience.[/QUOTE]Chapeau Vert was a waste of time even before the curtains came down in the Detroit clubs.
[QUOTE=Electronman;7086199]Wise advice from MM, as usual. On rare occasion, you will follow all of the above guidelines and still end up with a dancer who tries to overcharge you or who under performs. Be polite but firm. Offer to pay her for dances that she delivered but not beyond the value of the dances. If she insists on involving the manager (or bouncer), be polite and explain what happened and propose a reasonable solution. You might even ask if any other customers have every complained about this particular dancer. If you cannot arrive at a reasonable resolution, I recommend that you avoid a physical confrontation. However, I do recommend that you write a review that clearly identifies the dancer by her club name so that other customers can avoid that dancer.
Wish we could pin this article to make it easier for others to locate it. I gave it a title that might make it easier to search.[/QUOTE]One additional rule I learned from a wiser monger here is this: do not drink alcohol in the club. It clouds judgment and impairs performance. Plus, I don't worry about LE pulling me over after leaving the club and testing my BAC.
I've been to Chapeau once that I remember. Years ago, 2016 or so after a few drinks at a bar. It was 9 ish at night the bar had quite a few drinking and hanging out. I sat at a side table and one was approached by a very hood rat type dancer. Typical asks for a dance an after me saying I wanted FS and her saying they don't have a VIP. She proceeds to tell me we can fuck in the corner towards the front. Needless to say I end up raw dogging her with the others watching from the sides of their eyes, including the bar tender. It was exciting and nerve wracking at the same time. At the beginning she told me we had to be discreet so slid her thong aside and pulled jr out of my fly. So at first it didn't look like we were doing much, until she got into it and reverse CG thong off and tits in my mouth. What a blast. I wouldn't do that today just the risk of LEO isn't worth it for me.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7086927]DD,
I am crying with you.
I usually go to BTs or Sliver Criket. Try one of those and you should have a different experience. I have never been to chapeau vert lounge, and now I now why.
MM.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7086933]D99,
This has not been my experience. Right around now the clubs start to empty out. Many Michigan snow birds leave for the winter to warmer climates, and the mongers with the coin to relocate, cause the dancers to follow them.
Certainly not all the girls leave as many have family reasons for staying in Michigan. One of my most favorite girls was talking about how much her income dropped last January and February. She couldn't wait for the warmer weather.
As the snowbirds return in April and May the girls follow them back up here. Also Florida and Texas and Arizona are all miserable places to be weather-wise in the summer. It is the opposite of being in Michigan in the winter.
I have found the best times to Monger are in May and June through September. Each May / June there is a new round of high school and college graduates that look for ways to make money. Even girls who go to college need to work during the summer and they try to earn their tuition. And even girls who are flipping burgers or folding sweaters tend to keep those jobs and change in the springtime. Something about warmer weather makes them try stripping. All these girl added to the dancers moving back to chase the rich snowbirds makes for a robust selection during the summer.
MM.[/QUOTE]Yeah I stopped in FC / LS / BTs on Halloween and the weekend before and they were both dead. It's good though, time to take a break for a bit and cold weather will be what keeps me at home. .
Going downtown for the next home game to tailgate, and then watch thr game at a bar.
What's is a better choice, Legends or Bazokee club?
Looking for overall best environment to have fun with a group of guys.
Game day food and drink specials are a bonus.
[QUOTE=DeanDuber;7086488]...This chicken comes over, bigger girl. And she goes "you the po-lice?" And starts to feel me for a wire lmao. I smirk at her let her touch me all over and go "yeah I'm the po-lice". Then she laughs and settles a bit. Now I'm thinking, bigger girls got a reputation for one thing that I know I'm interested in. So I directly ask for a BJ. She goes we don't do that here anymore. I go okay damn. And she offers a dance starting at a 100 $ to which I kindly decline. She then goes "okay, I'll let everyone know you're the po-lice". ...[/QUOTE]I've only been asked if I was a cop a couple of times in my career. The most recent was during an afternoon visit to BTs last summer. I'd been talking to a dancer and we'd been getting more risque in the conversation but hadn't been explicit yet when she says, "This is the only time I'm going to ask this but are you a cop?" I guess it was because I look clean cut and was only drinking water. I answered no and then immediately said something explicit about what I was looking to do that afternoon. She seemed reassured by my answer and we went on to have a very enjoyable session of FS in the back.
[QUOTE=CaseyX;7087571]I've only been asked if I was a cop a couple of times in my career. The most recent was during an afternoon visit to BTs last summer. I'd been talking to a dancer and we'd been getting more risque in the conversation but hadn't been explicit yet when she says, "This is the only time I'm going to ask this but are you a cop?" I guess it was because I look clean cut and was only drinking water. I answered no and then immediately said something explicit about what I was looking to do that afternoon. She seemed reassured by my answer and we went on to have a very enjoyable session of FS in the back.[/QUOTE]Nice man. Yeah I think the way you handled it is right. If you read my original post I feel like I handled it decently. At the end of the day I feel like if you reject one of these women you are subject to whenever they may choose to say about you afterwards. Even if the interaction was just sitting at a table.
[QUOTE=DeanDuber;7086488]I appreciate all of your guys advice. Before I received a certain PM I went to the most local club to me, chapeau vert lounge. Apparently this was mistake number one. But let me say, I am creeping up on 30, fairly clean shaven and apparently look like a cop? I come in pay the cover, head to the bar and order a drink. A lady comes over and I am not interested. Friendly but I end up telling her thank you but no thank you. Once I get my drink and some singles if need be. I go off the side booth to sit and watch the girl on stage / scope talent. This chicken comes over, bigger girl. And she goes "you the po-lice?" And starts to feel me for a wire lmao. I smirk at her let her touch me all over and go "yeah I'm the po-lice". Then she laughs and settles a bit. Now I'm thinking, bigger girls got a reputation for one thing that I know I'm interested in. So I directly ask for a BJ. She goes we don't do that here anymore. I go okay damn. And she offers a dance starting at a 100 $ to which I kindly decline. She then goes "okay, I'll let everyone know you're the po-lice". I just said K, finished my drink and left considering one of the worst girls there said there was no extras. Annoying experience.[/QUOTE]Hold up. L I haven't been in the Perv in a decade. When the hell did they start charging a cover there? Keith still paying to get the bullet removed?
I was in the area so I decided to stop by BT's on a Tuesday afternoon. There was the usual group of four or so Cubans, three or four black girls, and five or six white girls. 10-15 middle aged customers. Hard pass on all of the Cubans quality wise, there was a Tall petite AA that I may have considered but I never got her name.
The first approach was from one the best looking Cubans that was working that day but I quickly sent her away. I don't like talking with an app. The only positive about the Cubans is that they seem to be keeping GPS down. But just a little.
There was a blonde that asked to sit down that I could have mistaken for Elektra from LS. Same hair, similar face, just a little plump. Still attractive, decent conversation and I probably would have settled on her since I was running out of time but before she came back I saw a few new faces.
A soft natural body brunette (I never got a chance to get her name) and Kennedy, a more petite brunette. I would be shocked if either were in their 20's. I'm pretty picky but Kennedy checks most of my boxes. I tipped her as soon as she got on stage. Thankfully I did because two or three others tipped her as well. As soon as she got off stage she came right to the bar and sat next to me.
Not wanting to waste any time, I made it plain what I was there for. Part of me was worried she was too young / new for a worthwhile menu and I would need to find the blonde again. Thankfully I was very wrong. We agreed to an amount that was not quite what I have spent on the girls that I absolutely had to add to my list but not low enough that I will repeat often or become a regular for a period of time. My list is long but my repeats are few.
Off we go to VIP, the last one on the left, my favorite booth. Pretty sure we had the VIP to ourselves. She asked for cash up front. I protested. She didn't budge. She looked too good to say no to so I rolled the dice. Got a warm up dance or two. Holding onto her hips while she grinds into you is a sight to see. But all I could think about the whole time was her being a ROB. Wrong again.
I had a few minor setbacks but she was very accommodating, responsive and vocal. Good thing we were all the way in the back. I am 99% sure it was for show and purely transactional but, in the moment, it was real enough. I have never appreciated the mirrors as much as I did now. I will say her karaoke skill is about what I would expect for her age but her enthusiasm in the drivers seat and natural beauty will make me go back at least one more time if I can find her again. Only works day shift. Inconsistent days.
I hate to share her and would rather keep her a well kept secret but I am grateful for some useful intel that I have gotten from fellow mongers so I wanted to make my first post a noteworthy one.
[QUOTE=Justthetip586;7090239]I was in the area so I decided to stop by BT's on a Tuesday afternoon. There was the usual group of four or so Cubans, three or four black girls, and five or six white girls. 10-15 middle aged customers. Hard pass on all of the Cubans quality wise, there was a Tall petite AA that I may have considered but I never got her name.
The first approach was from one the best looking Cubans that was working that day but I quickly sent her away. I don't like talking with an app. The only positive about the Cubans is that they seem to be keeping GPS down. But just a little.
There was a blonde that asked to sit down that I could have mistaken for Elektra from LS. Same hair, similar face, just a little plump. Still attractive, decent conversation and I probably would have settled on her since I was running out of time but before she came back I saw a few new faces.
A soft natural body brunette (I never got a chance to get her name) and Kennedy, a more petite brunette. I would be shocked if either were in their 20's. I'm pretty picky but Kennedy checks most of my boxes. I tipped her as soon as she got on stage. Thankfully I did because two or three others tipped her as well. As soon as she got off stage she came right to the bar and sat next to me.
Not wanting to waste any time, I made it plain what I was there for. Part of me was worried she was too young / new for a worthwhile menu and I would need to find the blonde again. Thankfully I was very wrong. We agreed to an amount that was not quite what I have spent on the girls that I absolutely had to add to my list but not low enough that I will repeat often or become a regular for a period of time. My list is long but my repeats are few.
Off we go to VIP, the last one on the left, my favorite booth. Pretty sure we had the VIP to ourselves. She asked for cash up front. I protested. She didn't budge. She looked too good to say no to so I rolled the dice. Got a warm up dance or two. Holding onto her hips while she grinds into you is a sight to see. But all I could think about the whole time was her being a ROB. Wrong again.
I had a few minor setbacks but she was very accommodating, responsive and vocal. Good thing we were all the way in the back. I am 99% sure it was for show and purely transactional but, in the moment, it was real enough. I have never appreciated the mirrors as much as I did now. I will say her karaoke skill is about what I would expect for her age but her enthusiasm in the drivers seat and natural beauty will make me go back at least one more time if I can find her again. Only works day shift. Inconsistent days.
I hate to share her and would rather keep her a well kept secret but I am grateful for some useful intel that I have gotten from fellow mongers so I wanted to make my first post a noteworthy one.[/QUOTE]JTT,
Nice report, I have never had the pleasure of Kennedy.
I believe the blond you are talking about is Chantale, and the Brunette is Rain.
MM.
Which services were on her menu? What are the prices? Which did you receive? What did you pay?
What were the setbacks? How did you resolve them? If additional cash was needed, how much?
You paid in the VIP Room but in advance. Was this a breach of your verbal agreement made at the table?
[QUOTE=Justthetip586;7090239]I was in the area so I decided to stop by BT's on a Tuesday afternoon. There was the usual group of four or so Cubans, three or four black girls, and five or six white girls. 10-15 middle aged customers. Hard pass on all of the Cubans quality wise, there was a Tall petite AA that I may have considered but I never got her name.
The first approach was from one the best looking Cubans that was working that day but I quickly sent her away. I don't like talking with an app. The only positive about the Cubans is that they seem to be keeping GPS down. But just a little.[/QUOTE]
So after everyone's advice the other week. I got back on the horse. Went to bogarts and idk if I was too excited or what. But I locked my damn keys in the car! Still went in though lmao. Turned one away, and made eye contact with this nice looking black girl on stage. She came up to me once she was done nice cfs for a 100 $ good deal I thought. Next visit went to silver criket. This sexy thic white girl named Brittany came up and asked if she could dance on me. Then asked if I'd buy her a drink. Not sure what most people do in this situation. But her being hot and this basically my second time I did. We chated for a bit and talked prices. After my last visit I tested out a 100 $ again and asked for a BJ. She tried to get me to raise it and she agreed to 120 $ we get in the room and she asks for my to put the money on the table. Is this fairly normal behavior? I know not to give it to them before, this felt okay. She starts dancing on me before the act. Then while she's smoking the pole like a Marlboro. I tell her "I'll give you all the money in my wallet for FS" she asks how much. I pull out 60 and she asks for more and I say I don't have it and she says okay but not all day. No problem on the all day part the way she moves. All in all $180 to her and like 50 bucks for 2 drinks, cover and VIP.
My question is, do people turn girls down for VIP right away to try and enjoy the scene more of looking at all the ladies. And what if like my experience this first girl is very hot. But there are other hot ones too lmao, how does one choose or turn a girl away and maybe go back to her later.