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[QUOTE=Jackbb;1343418]Where's this place located?[/QUOTE]Hot Spot is "conservative" because of its history. It used to be Leggs. And when there was a fire there, the fire department discovered that the downstairs "super VIP" area was basically a brothel of mattresses and condoms. They also discovered a safe with several hundred thousand dollars in (undeclared) cash.
I assume it's called the Hot Spot because of that fire.
It's a miracle the place is open at all, given its history.
Made a recent visit to PH overlapping day and night shifts and was disappointed in the pricing. I guess maybe I'm spoiled since I rediscovered BT's this year where the value for the $ seems better. Anyways, what is the average range that most dancers at PH settle on for a BJ and also for FS? It definitely seems like the girls have gotten together to fix pricing as most wanted $$ BJ and $$$ FS, and some said they normally ask for $$$$ to $$$$$$ for FS and a lot of guys pay it (don't know if I beleive it or not, but to some guys $$$$$$ is nothing given the occasional Bentley I've seen in the valet area. One did come down to $ for BJ though, and another to $.5. Some hotties there for sure, but I could get 3 good looking girls at BT's for the price of one at PH. There was one that really caught my eye though. We exchanged digits. Hopefully we can arrange something less than the $$$ she wanted.
[QUOTE=Mich Cl;1343640]Ace of Spades isn't AllStars. Ace of Spades is the former Body Rock / Cheetah's. Allstars was the old Patio Lounge.[/QUOTE]Which one was city heat.
[QUOTE=Big Puff Daddy;1343861]Made a recent visit to PH overlapping day and night shifts and was disappointed in the pricing. I guess maybe I'm spoiled since I rediscovered BT's this year where the value for the $ seems better. Anyways, what is the average range that most dancers at PH settle on for a BJ and also for FS? It definitely seems like the girls have gotten together to fix pricing as most wanted $$ BJ and $$$ FS, and some said they normally ask for $$$$ to $$$$$$ for FS and a lot of guys pay it (don't know if I beleive it or not, but to some guys $$$$$$ is nothing given the occasional Bentley I've seen in the valet area. One did come down to $ for BJ though, and another to $.5. Some hotties there for sure, but I could get 3 good looking girls at BT's for the price of one at PH. There was one that really caught my eye though. We exchanged digits. Hopefully we can arrange something less than the $$$ she wanted.[/QUOTE]I think someone else commented same thing about PHC last week and attributed it to their need to get some holiday shopping done. I went to FC (I think owned by same as PHC) last Sat and got those crazy quotes. There was one strawberry blonde butter face, who was cheaper, but she approached us as soon as we sat down. Never saw her again. Latina said 3 bills for French lesson. Only way that's happening is if it's Eva Mendes.
Went across the street. Was funner be / see was laid-back. Had an amazing dance with MOrgan, a little chunky but cure. Saw Paradise who was hotter than anything at FC. Couldn't flag her down, but saw that she came out of the right end of the VIP. Went thru posts and saw that she's prudish but that was a long time ago. Anyone know if she's changed her tune?
[QUOTE=Oneknot;1343497]Its located on Michigan ave (us-12) on the edge of Ypsilanti and Wayne. If you are coming from the east it is just past the split in the road going towards downtown Ypsilanti.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I've been to Leggs in years, past. Might give a go, this holiday season. Thinkin' the Vert, right now!
Outstanding visit to H8 this week. Day shift, Angelique. I haven't seen her talked about much (not for a while, anyway) but she's easily in the top three EVER. I was kind of exhausted and polite to her, and she was just great. Didn't "bargain" but just told her what I had, and she said,"don't worry" and that was that. Sigh.
[QUOTE=Oregon2020;1344748]Outstanding visit to H8 this week. Day shift, Angelique. I haven't seen her talked about much (not for a while, anyway) but she's easily in the top three EVER. I was kind of exhausted and polite to her, and she was just great. Didn't "bargain" but just told her what I had, and she said,"don't worry" and that was that. Sigh.[/QUOTE]What was on the menu?
[QUOTE=Big Puff Daddy;1343861]Made a recent visit to PH overlapping day and night shifts and was disappointed in the pricing. I guess maybe I'm spoiled since I rediscovered BT's this year where the value for the $ seems better. Anyways, what is the average range that most dancers at PH settle on for a BJ and also for FS? It definitely seems like the girls have gotten together to fix pricing as most wanted $$ BJ and $$$ FS, and some said they normally ask for $$$$ to $$$$$$ for FS and a lot of guys pay it (don't know if I beleive it or not, but to some guys $$$$$$ is nothing given the occasional Bentley I've seen in the valet area. One did come down to $ for BJ though, and another to $.5. Some hotties there for sure, but I could get 3 good looking girls at BT's for the price of one at PH. There was one that really caught my eye though. We exchanged digits. Hopefully we can arrange something less than the $$$ she wanted.[/QUOTE]I had similar experiences with the price structure at recent PHC visits. After rejecting a couple of dancers for unrealistically high quotes, I successfully bargained for a lower price and had the dancer tell me,"please don't tell the other dancers what you paid." I suspect that the dancers have agreed to a certain price structure and have some strategy to deal with the dancers who undercut the fixed prices. Interestingly, the traffic to the VIP was pretty sparse during my most recent afternoon visit to PHC. It doesn't take an economics degree to realize that 2 visits x $150 = $300 which is much more than 0 visits x $300=0.
Fortunately there are a number of other Detroit clubs where market pressures seem to have kept prices at a more reasonable level, BT's being a good example.
[QUOTE=Mich CL; 1343642]Hot Spot is "conservative" because of its history. It used to be Leggs. And when there was a fire there, the fire department discovered that the downstairs "super VIP" area was basically a brothel of mattresses and condoms. They also discovered a safe with several hundred thousand dollars in (undeclared) cash.
I assume it's called the Hot Spot because of that fire.
It's a miracle the place is open at all, given its history.[/QUOTE]Actually, the big crackdown came just after the customer died while getting a lap dance on a Sunday many years ago. Rumors (untrue, as I was there that day) were that the manager didn't call EMS for several minutes while the staff cleaned the place up. Video cameras were in operation in the VIP. Several of Van Buren's finest were on tape, as were all VIP customers. During the investigation into the guy's death, the safe and money were found. The fire was years later. The dancer who was giving the guy the dance later used to say,"I give killer dances!". Kind of poor taste, but it was Legg's after all!
[QUOTE=Costanza;1345179]Actually, the big crackdown came just after the customer died while getting a lap dance on a Sunday many years ago. Rumors (untrue, as I was there that day) were that the manager didn't call EMS for several minutes while the staff cleaned the place up. Video cameras were in operation in the VIP. Several of Van Buren's finest were on tape, as were all VIP customers. During the investigation into the guy's death, the safe and money were found. The fire was years later. The dancer who was giving the guy the dance later used to say,"I give killer dances!". Kind of poor taste, but it was Legg's after all![/QUOTE]So all the fun stopped and they now have to wear pasties?
[QUOTE=Guy1000;1345221]So all the fun stopped and they now have to wear pasties?[/QUOTE]Actually the pasties were in effect before the fire. Long history with Leggs / Hot Spot, in short local ordinance forced pasties, old man dies as stated, safe found in managers house with a lot of money, fire supposedly caused by janitor smoking after closing, then a year plus they reopen.
Years ago there was supposedly a VIP area downstairs that was accessed via a door by the dj area where the real fun took place; anyone ever go down there?
Guys,
I'm thinking about a trip up your way from the buckeye.
Anyone have a list of favs to see up there?
[QUOTE=John3030; 1345314]Actually the pasties were in effect before the fire. Long history with Leggs / Hot Spot, in short local ordinance forced pasties, old man dies as stated, safe found in managers house with a lot of money, fire supposedly caused by janitor smoking after closing, then a year plus they reopen.
Years ago there was supposedly a VIP area downstairs that was accessed via a door by the dj area where the real fun took place; anyone ever go down there?[/QUOTE]Yea you needed VIP to get down there.
[QUOTE=John3030; 1345314]Actually the pasties were in effect before the fire. Long history with Leggs / Hot Spot, in short local ordinance forced pasties, old man dies as stated, safe found in managers house with a lot of money, fire supposedly caused by janitor smoking after closing, then a year plus they reopen.
Years ago there was supposedly a VIP area downstairs that was accessed via a door by the dj area where the real fun took place; anyone ever go down there?[/QUOTE]Guy1000: I cannot say if all the fun is still gone, but being forced by the Township to wear pasties and panties that 'cover the crack of the butt' removes most of the fun for me. Legg's was under scrutiny for a very long time and still may be. The talent there, from what I hear and occasionally see, is poor, and not worth the time or risk anymore. Hamilton, to his credit (or maybe his foolishness) paid big money to re-open the club after the fire. He could have walked away, but he fought it out for the club many times after the guy's death and the fire (which occurred quite a bit later).
John3030: The downstairs was absolutely awesome in Legg's heyday-probably the best of any club until this day, IMO. Talent was great and there was a lot of it. I still have my VIP card with my photo on it! There was also a real basement near the door to the locker room that was even wilder than the basement near the DJ booth. Few were able to venture in there!
Wow the place sounded great.
[QUOTE=Costanza; 1345595]Guy1000: I cannot say if all the fun is still gone, but being forced by the Township to wear pasties and panties that 'cover the crack of the butt' removes most of the fun for me. Legg's was under scrutiny for a very long time and still may be. The talent there, from what I hear and occasionally see, is poor, and not worth the time or risk anymore. Hamilton, to his credit (or maybe his foolishness) paid big money to re-open the club after the fire. He could have walked away, but he fought it out for the club many times after the guy's death and the fire (which occurred quite a bit later).
John3030: The downstairs was absolutely awesome in Legg's heyday-probably the best of any club until this day, IMO. Talent was great and there was a lot of it. I still have my VIP card with my photo on it! There was also a real basement near the door to the locker room that was even wilder than the basement near the DJ booth. Few were able to venture in there![/QUOTE]