The Sugar World

Exactly! I did this very thing my last trip to Vegas. 'I've got $3 to spend today and I was looking for a little bit of company. Let me know if you'd like to join me for drinks and some fun. Let's discuss. Have a good one. ' I landed a date within a few hours and had more takers, but I was already busy.

As someone who had friends who sugared in a past life, they think you're an idiot if you immediately agree to their initial sky high ask. They expect you to negotiate. And when you don't, they think you're scared, a newbie, a weirdo who has ulterior motives, or an idiot.

Also, I don't know who told so many people that people with means don't negotiate. That is absolutely false. And it amazes me the number of profiles that I see it on and women who actually believe it.

[QUOTE=EagleLuver;5806063]Just because they say 1 k means very little. Hit them back with best I can do is 300 and dinner or whatever and many will bite. They just start high but are shocked if you accept.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EagleLuver;5806063]Just because they say 1 k means very little. Hit them back with best I can do is 300 and dinner or whatever and many will bite. They just start high but are shocked if you accept.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;5806506]Exactly! I did this very thing my last trip to Vegas. 'I've got $3 to spend today and I was looking for a little bit of company. Let me know if you'd like to join me for drinks and some fun. Let's discuss. Have a good one. ' I landed a date within a few hours and had more takers, but I was already busy.

As someone who had friends who sugared in a past life, they think you're an idiot if you immediately agree to their initial sky high ask. They expect you to negotiate. And when you don't, they think you're scared, a newbie, a weirdo who has ulterior motives, or an idiot.

Also, I don't know who told so many people that people with means don't negotiate. That is absolutely false. And it amazes me the number of profiles that I see it on and women who actually believe it.[/QUOTE]Negotiating from 1000 down to 300 has never worked for me. Also I never let the lady name her price, I always tell them I usually do 400 for dinner and fun. Some girls are down because that's within their range, but the ones that want 1000 either never respond to me, or they tell me that "400 is too low, good luck. " When I ask how much they're looking for, they usually say a much higher figure, like 800-1000. I tell them I can go up to 500, and usually get ghosted or an "LOL" and then blocked. Never once has a girl named 1000, then settled for 300 or 400. And I'm not taking these girls to shit places, it's always Carbone or STK or something because I like nice restaurants and I tell them that. The fine dining doesn't sway them, if they're hot they have a hundred dudes on Tinder waiting to take them to Gordon Ramsey.

So very true! A fool and his money are soon parted is a common saying for a reason! You know how Rich people stay rich? By negotiating EVERYTHING and paying as little as possible. Just because I CAN afford it doesn't mean I should pay it.

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;5806506]Exactly! I did this very thing my last trip to Vegas. 'I've got $3 to spend today and I was looking for a little bit of company. Let me know if you'd like to join me for drinks and some fun. Let's discuss. Have a good one. ' I landed a date within a few hours and had more takers, but I was already busy.

As someone who had friends who sugared in a past life, they think you're an idiot if you immediately agree to their initial sky high ask. They expect you to negotiate. And when you don't, they think you're scared, a newbie, a weirdo who has ulterior motives, or an idiot.

Also, I don't know who told so many people that people with means don't negotiate. That is absolutely false. And it amazes me the number of profiles that I see it on and women who actually believe it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5806536]Negotiating from 1000 down to 300 has never worked for me. Also I never let the lady name her price, I always tell them I usually do 400 for dinner and fun. Some girls are down because that's within their range, but the ones that want 1000 either never respond to me, or they tell me that "400 is too low, good luck. " When I ask how much they're looking for, they usually say a much higher figure, like 800-1000. I tell them I can go up to 500, and usually get ghosted or an "LOL" and then blocked. Never once has a girl named 1000, then settled for 300 or 400. And I'm not taking these girls to shit places, it's always Carbone or STK or something because I like nice restaurants and I tell them that. The fine dining doesn't sway them, if they're hot they have a hundred dudes on Tinder waiting to take them to Gordon Ramsey.[/QUOTE]I once had a woman who initially quoted me 1 k say that she could do $6, but that was the absolute lowest because she had to get a babysitter. She was indeed super hot, but definitely had a kid to worry about. So maybe she's an outlier. She also continued to be friendly after I passed. Told me to hit her up next time I was in Vegas.

I should also provide a bit of context, I don't typically angle for those sort of women because everyone and their mom can tell that you've paid for a date. I once scheduled a M&G, and because I knew she couldn't help but be conspicuous and by her own admission, 'Always wears pumps and designer dresses', and would stick out like a sore thumb at a Starbucks. Upon hearing this, I told her to 'dress as if she was going on a Target run on Saturday afternoon' and she reacted like I tried to shoot her dog.

The arm candy, 'I always attract all the attention when I walk in the room' stuff isn't for me. I've been to far too many business functions and people can spot it out immediately. There's nothing wrong with that, I just don't like the attention. Some of the best dates I've ever had was when I and a SB went out, got drunk, people watched, and then headed back to my room. Again, I'm not knocking anyone's preferences, but a woman near or around 30, who has a real job, actually appreciates the gift, and doesn't immediately forget that stack you've just handed her like she has the memory of a goldfish, has always been my bread and butter.

I also scoff at profiles that say they're 'accustomed to luxury'. Sure, honey, your handbag was made in a sweatshop right alongside the bootlegs. Calm down.

As far as the women who are quoting 1 k and won't budge, try them again, just for giggles, a few months after tax refunds have rolled out or a few days before their rent is due. I bet they'd agree to 7, if not 6. Just a hunch.

Asked for 1200 ppm for up to 3 hours of together time. Come to you. Prefers to meet later in evening after 9 pm. Dinner, show, private time. Passed on meeting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/78b710be-d997-41a5-84de-d55e0dadd923[/URL]

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5814310]Asked for 1200 ppm for up to 3 hours of together time. Come to you. Prefers to meet later in evening after 9 pm. Dinner, show, private time. Passed on meeting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/78b710be-d997-41a5-84de-d55e0dadd923[/URL][/QUOTE]Did you try telling her you have 300 to spend and for her to let you know if she's looking for dinner and a fun time LOL.

Looking to trade UTR info from SA for another of similar value (BBFS + CIP).

Last trip I got lucky with SA and ended up with knockout blonde from SA that works at Sapphires. She is mid / late 20's, blonde hair now (was black when I saw her), absolutely huge bombs (and extra large areolas! Met for drinks in casino and went to hotel for 3+ hours of BBFSCIP. Was very simple process via SA. She has never been mentioned on here on any other forums. She is very chill, and was fun to hang out with as well.

I am only looking to trade info for BBFSCIP and ideally over 25 years old.

1200 for a hood rat? I'll bet she's booked every night!

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5814310]Asked for 1200 ppm for up to 3 hours of together time. Come to you. Prefers to meet later in evening after 9 pm. Dinner, show, private time. Passed on meeting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/78b710be-d997-41a5-84de-d55e0dadd923[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5814677]Did you try telling her you have 300 to spend and for her to let you know if she's looking for dinner and a fun time LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm actually curious about your approach and how you converse with women. Do you chat them up a bit before getting into logistics? Are you open to M&G's where they can walk if you two aren't into one another? Because I don't think your experiences aren't real, but I just haven't experienced that. I've never gotten a 'LOL, good luck' and I can't remember the last time I got blocked immediately when our figures didn't match up.

I'm not knocking your game, just interested in your approach.

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;5806604]I once had a woman who initially quoted me 1 k say that she could do $6, but that was the absolute lowest because she had to get a babysitter. She was indeed super hot, but definitely had a kid to worry about. So maybe she's an outlier. She also continued to be friendly after I passed. Told me to hit her up next time I was in Vegas.

I should also provide a bit of context, I don't typically angle for those sort of women because everyone and their mom can tell that you've paid for a date. I once scheduled a M&G, and because I knew she couldn't help but be conspicuous and by her own admission, 'Always wears pumps and designer dresses', and would stick out like a sore thumb at a Starbucks. Upon hearing this, I told her to 'dress as if she was going on a Target run on Saturday afternoon' and she reacted like I tried to shoot her dog.

The arm candy, 'I always attract all the attention when I walk in the room' stuff isn't for me. I've been to far too many business functions and people can spot it out immediately. There's nothing wrong with that, I just don't like the attention. Some of the best dates I've ever had was when I and a SB went out, got drunk, people watched, and then headed back to my room. Again, I'm not knocking anyone's preferences, but a woman near or around 30, who has a real job, actually appreciates the gift, and doesn't immediately forget that stack you've just handed her like she has the memory of a goldfish, has always been my bread and butter.

I also scoff at profiles that say they're 'accustomed to luxury'. Sure, honey, your handbag was made in a sweatshop right alongside the bootlegs. Calm down.

As far as the women who are quoting 1 k and won't budge, try them again, just for giggles, a few months after tax refunds have rolled out or a few days before their rent is due. I bet they'd agree to 7, if not 6. Just a hunch.[/QUOTE]I try to pick out a SB with a down to earth profile. Late 20-or 30's. Single with kids. Appreciate a date and should know how to please a man. Any SB with -the (I want to be treated like a princess) or (I'm accustomed to luxury) in the profile is a pass. The young (really pretty ones) have poor comms and entitled attitudes and think that letting you be seen with them out in town and a quick bang (while they lay there) is all the reward for your donation deserves.

Anyone have any knowledge of this SB?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1f0743ea-152e-4817-9179-f9fd3f349257[/URL]

She has a new profile but when I tried to see her on her old profile, she and her pimp boyfriend grabbed my money and took off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb36d803-3717-4061-8876-48ffa78c069b[/URL]

[QUOTE=KSpacey;5817914]She has a new profile but when I tried to see her on her old profile, she and her pimp boyfriend grabbed my money and took off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb36d803-3717-4061-8876-48ffa78c069b[/URL][/QUOTE]I met her last summer, my experience was amazing. Sorry yours wasn't.

[QUOTE=KSpacey;5817914]She has a new profile but when I tried to see her on her old profile, she and her pimp boyfriend grabbed my money and took off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb36d803-3717-4061-8876-48ffa78c069b[/URL][/QUOTE]I've never met her, but her is another one of her profiles. I'm guessing she creates new ones as her old ones get blocked / reported: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7ce7f8a5-db46-4fe9-92ee-1d1f612110a2[/URL].

[QUOTE=Coliny;5817814]Anyone have any knowledge of this SB?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1f0743ea-152e-4817-9179-f9fd3f349257[/URL][/QUOTE]I had a meet and greet with her 3 years ago, but never had an intimate date. IMO, she's a "pro" SB in that she's been in this game a long time, regularly comes back with new profiles on SA or WYP. She's been using "27" as her age for a while now, I'm guessing she's early 30's. She does have at least one kid.

She was very annoying during brunch and ordered extra food to take home to her kid and was adamant we get dessert too. Gave off food rinser vibes, LOL. I didn't like her and didn't pursue another meet. I think she was asking for 400 PPM, but again this was 3 years ago and since she gave off pro vibes I'm guessing she asks for more now.