Massage Parlor Reports (Formerly Pine)

Stopped in recently and had a half an hour massage. Damage was 60 and no extras to be had. Ok looking MT but no touching of any kind or teasing. The massage was not good and very rough even after I asked to lighten up. I normally go for a deep massage but this was crazy. Not only was there no extras but got shorted 10 minutes. I was not being pushy with the touching or indicating I was looking for a better ending. If the massage would have been better could have dealt with it and would have even considered returning for a massage. I did tip because she did do a massage. I know this place has been reported on on the past but thought I try.

Was at one of my usual Waukegen AMPs recently. About five minutes into my massage, my MT disappears suddenly. Gone a while, came back in about five minutes, no hot towels, no explanation, like nothing happened. I let it slide. A little while later, her cell phone rings, she's having a HIGHLY agitated phone conversation, then she says" back in 5 meeenits" then disappears again. For a long-ass time. Almost 20 minutes later I'm really annoyed and decide "F* This!" So I'm going to walk out and not leave a tip either. (I've never walked out without leaving a tip. Ever).

I took a while putting my clothes on, figuring she'd walk in and catch me in the act. But nope! So I open the door and of course, it squeaks like a motherf* The creakiest damn door you ever ever heard. It's not helping my stealthy exit.

So I'm dressed and halfway to the front door, and the MT sees me (half-naked, sitting on the toilet with the door open! She launches herself at me (pants-less) and blocks my escape route.

At first she begged, pleaded for me to stay. Then got more forceful about it, insisting I stay. She wouldn't LET me leave. After politely declining a few more times and giving her my reasons for leaving (and inventing a few extra reasons for good measure), I made the move again towards the door, and she surprised the shit out of me with an extremely powerful shove backwards, that almost knocked me on my ass. (She's very small, but should try out for the Bears as a linebacker. She doesn't give up any extra yards.) "You No Go!

I don't really NEED to leave, I'm just irked with the service (or lack thereof) and irritated, and I'm already all dressed again anyway and kind of want to leave as a matter of principle. But I don't NEED to leave so badly that I'm willing to get into a shoving match with a (somewhat) cute, half naked Asian lady who is a foot shorter than me. Besides, it would be REALLY embarrassing to LOSE that shoving match!

So; I caved. She leads me back into the room, awkwardly apologizing.

This time she undresses me without me helping. Continues my massage from the exact spot it left off, as if nothing happened. After the flip she gives me a very nice standard ending like usual. It was about halfway through the ending routine, that I even noticed that this ISN'T the same woman I started out with! It was dark in the hallway, and I guess it was the MMS who was guarding the exit with her pants down. She and my earlier MT look REALLY similar, so similar in the face I didn't even notice. Turns out they're sisters, I think the MMS is the older of the two.

I tipped the union standard. Not really sure what I should tip in this situation. (I did get my full hour, which happened to take an hour and a half.).

The whole experience was so bizarre that I wanted to share, see if anybody else has had this type of thing happen to them before.

I'm a bit of a regular over there; it's not my very favorite but it's close to home and gets the job done with minimum hassle. I've had some pretty good experiences there, but now I'm not sure I want to go back, I think I'll feel awkward the next time I see the MMS, especially because of the the pants-free tackle.

Rather not name the place here, but the place is infamous for it's dangerous parking situation.

I've never had one block me like that. Very bizarre indeed. LOL.

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;3065811]Was at one of my usual Waukegen AMPs recently. About five minutes into my massage, my MT disappears suddenly. Gone a while, came back in about five minutes, no hot towels, no explanation, like nothing happened. I let it slide. A little while later, her cell phone rings, she's having a HIGHLY agitated phone conversation, then she says" back in 5 meeenits" then disappears again. For a long-ass time. Almost 20 minutes later I'm really annoyed and decide "F* This!" So I'm going to walk out and not leave a tip either. (I've never walked out without leaving a tip. Ever).

I took a while putting my clothes on, figuring she'd walk in and catch me in the act. But nope! So I open the door and of course, it squeaks like a motherf* The creakiest damn door you ever ever heard. It's not helping my stealthy exit.

So I'm dressed and halfway to the front door, and the MT sees me (half-naked, sitting on the toilet with the door open! She launches herself at me (pants-less) and blocks my escape route.

At first she begged, pleaded for me to stay. Then got more forceful about it, insisting I stay. She wouldn't LET me leave. After politely declining a few more times and giving her my reasons for leaving (and inventing a few extra reasons for good measure), I made the move again towards the door, and she surprised the shit out of me with an extremely powerful shove backwards, that almost knocked me on my ass. (She's very small, but should try out for the Bears as a linebacker. She doesn't give up any extra yards.) "You No Go!

I don't really NEED to leave, I'm just irked with the service (or lack thereof) and irritated, and I'm already all dressed again anyway and kind of want to leave as a matter of principle. But I don't NEED to leave so badly that I'm willing to get into a shoving match with a (somewhat) cute, half naked Asian lady who is a foot shorter than me. Besides, it would be REALLY embarrassing to LOSE that shoving match!

So; I caved. She leads me back into the room, awkwardly apologizing.

This time she undresses me without me helping. Continues my massage from the exact spot it left off, as if nothing happened. After the flip she gives me a very nice standard ending like usual. It was about halfway through the ending routine, that I even noticed that this ISN'T the same woman I started out with! It was dark in the hallway, and I guess it was the MMS who was guarding the exit with her pants down. She and my earlier MT look REALLY similar, so similar in the face I didn't even notice. Turns out they're sisters, I think the MMS is the older of the two.

I tipped the union standard. Not really sure what I should tip in this situation. (I did get my full hour, which happened to take an hour and a half.).

The whole experience was so bizarre that I wanted to share, see if anybody else has had this type of thing happen to them before.

I'm a bit of a regular over there; it's not my very favorite but it's close to home and gets the job done with minimum hassle. I've had some pretty good experiences there, but now I'm not sure I want to go back, I think I'll feel awkward the next time I see the MMS, especially because of the the pants-free tackle.

Rather not name the place here, but the place is infamous for it's dangerous parking situation.[/QUOTE]

I would speculate, a couple things. Perhaps your regular got a phone call about her kid or something equally important. That would send her into a frenzy and cause her to bolt out the door to handle whatever crisis had arisen, leaving her sister holding the bag, (as it were). No doubt the sister / MMS was also agitated, either because she was pissed as her sister for walking out on a client, or becuase she was concerned about whatever happened to her sister. Why get into a shoving match? Probably adrenaline and anger, displaced onto you. You know, something bad happens at work, you come home and are a jerk at home, etc. She really just wanted to make it right. So what to do? I would suggest you go back to the place armed with your Google Translate app. Plan to simply go and talk. Don't ask for a massage. Go on a day when you have a little extra time. Perhaps a few minutes before they open so you can see them both (hopefully) alone. And simply ask "Are you okay? I'm worried about you. What happened?" I know you're pissed, but let's diffuse that with a conciliatory gesture. Even though it is nosey to ask what happened, you earned the right to ask based on their behaviour. And maybe they will open up to you end explain the situation. If they do, you will become a closer friend, with associated benefits. You can also explain "You pushed me!, and diffuse that with something like "You are the strongest woman!, or "Now I'm afraid of you. ", but of course say it while smiling. Sending a message but keeping it friendly. Customer service is extremely important in this business, and my guess is they will both be incredibly apologetic. I would also expect they will offer a free massage to make amends. In life, shit happens. I would be astonished if they don't offer to make it up to you. Bob.

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;3065811]Was at one of my usual Waukegen AMPs recently. About five minutes into my massage, my MT disappears suddenly. Gone a while, came back in about five minutes, no hot towels, no explanation, like nothing happened. I let it slide. A little while later, her cell phone rings, she's having a HIGHLY agitated phone conversation, then she says" back in 5 meeenits" then disappears again. For a long-ass time. Almost 20 minutes later I'm really annoyed and decide "F* This!" So I'm going to walk out and not leave a tip either. (I've never walked out without leaving a tip. Ever).

I took a while putting my clothes on, figuring she'd walk in and catch me in the act. But nope! So I open the door and of course, it squeaks like a motherf* The creakiest damn door you ever ever heard. It's not helping my stealthy exit.

So I'm dressed and halfway to the front door, and the MT sees me (half-naked, sitting on the toilet with the door open! She launches herself at me (pants-less) and blocks my escape route.

At first she begged, pleaded for me to stay. Then got more forceful about it, insisting I stay. She wouldn't LET me leave. After politely declining a few more times and giving her my reasons for leaving (and inventing a few extra reasons for good measure), I made the move again towards the door, and she surprised the shit out of me with an extremely powerful shove backwards, that almost knocked me on my ass. (She's very small, but should try out for the Bears as a linebacker. She doesn't give up any extra yards.) "You No Go!

I don't really NEED to leave, I'm just irked with the service (or lack thereof) and irritated, and I'm already all dressed again anyway and kind of want to leave as a matter of principle. But I don't NEED to leave so badly that I'm willing to get into a shoving match with a (somewhat) cute, half naked Asian lady who is a foot shorter than me. Besides, it would be REALLY embarrassing to LOSE that shoving match!

So; I caved. She leads me back into the room, awkwardly apologizing.

This time she undresses me without me helping. Continues my massage from the exact spot it left off, as if nothing happened. After the flip she gives me a very nice standard ending like usual. It was about halfway through the ending routine, that I even noticed that this ISN'T the same woman I started out with! It was dark in the hallway, and I guess it was the MMS who was guarding the exit with her pants down. She and my earlier MT look REALLY similar, so similar in the face I didn't even notice. Turns out they're sisters, I think the MMS is the older of the two.

I tipped the union standard. Not really sure what I should tip in this situation. (I did get my full hour, which happened to take an hour and a half.).

The whole experience was so bizarre that I wanted to share, see if anybody else has had this type of thing happen to them before.

I'm a bit of a regular over there; it's not my very favorite but it's close to home and gets the job done with minimum hassle. I've had some pretty good experiences there, but now I'm not sure I want to go back, I think I'll feel awkward the next time I see the MMS, especially because of the the pants-free tackle.

Rather not name the place here, but the place is infamous for it's dangerous parking situation.[/QUOTE]

If he chooses to go back I think the conversation should be "You pushed me and its not OK". Hopefully then she would understand the gravity of the situation and think before she pushes a paying customer again.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3066101]I would speculate, a couple things. Perhaps your regular got a phone call about her kid or something equally important. That would send her into a frenzy and cause her to bolt out the door to handle whatever crisis had arisen, leaving her sister holding the bag, (as it were). No doubt the sister / MMS was also agitated, either because she was pissed as her sister for walking out on a client, or becuase she was concerned about whatever happened to her sister. Why get into a shoving match? Probably adrenaline and anger, displaced onto you. You know, something bad happens at work, you come home and are a jerk at home, etc. She really just wanted to make it right. So what to do? I would suggest you go back to the place armed with your Google Translate app. Plan to simply go and talk. Don't ask for a massage. Go on a day when you have a little extra time. Perhaps a few minutes before they open so you can see them both (hopefully) alone. And simply ask "Are you okay? I'm worried about you. What happened?" I know you're pissed, but let's diffuse that with a conciliatory gesture. Even though it is nosey to ask what happened, you earned the right to ask based on their behaviour. And maybe they will open up to you end explain the situation. If they do, you will become a closer friend, with associated benefits. You can also explain "You pushed me!, and diffuse that with something like "You are the strongest woman!, or "Now I'm afraid of you. ", but of course say it while smiling. Sending a message but keeping it friendly. Customer service is extremely important in this business, and my guess is they will both be incredibly apologetic. I would also expect they will offer a free massage to make amends. In life, shit happens. I would be astonished if they don't offer to make it up to you. Bob.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3066278]If he chooses to go back I think the conversation should be "You pushed me and its not OK". Hopefully then she would understand the gravity of the situation and think before she pushes a paying customer again.[/QUOTE]I didn't stay mad at either of them actually. The shove didn't hurt or anything, but was kind of embarrassing. We went back to the room and still had a nice (although not above average) time. Seems to me THAT would be have been the best time for them to make it up to me, with upgraded service that's not on the menu or something. Although maybe you're right, perhaps I should go back and see what happens.

I'm not very experienced using the Chinese language App on my phone though (has a different name). I haven't really tried it on a real person yet. Not sure I'd be comfortable using it.

In my opinion it is very difficult to have a conversation that way. If your cool with it fine. I read it like you were pissed off.

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;3066314]I didn't stay mad at either of them actually. The shove didn't hurt or anything, but was kind of embarrassing. We went back to the room and still had a nice (although not above average) time. Seems to me THAT would be have been the best time for them to make it up to me, with upgraded service that's not on the menu or something. Although maybe you're right, perhaps I should go back and see what happens.

I'm not very experienced using the Chinese language App on my phone though (has a different name). I haven't really tried it on a real person yet. Not sure I'd be comfortable using it.[/QUOTE]

Hey everyone. North of the border but looking to take a trip down to the area NW burbs area. Saw on the posts some trouble at Pine, which was my plan- but probably not now, right? So looking for Asian place, spinners with a great menu. Would appreciate any suggestions, PMs are fine. FYI wi sucks for AMPs.

[QUOTE=MilwFireman;3066435]Hey everyone. North of the border but looking to take a trip down to the area NW burbs area. Saw on the posts some trouble at Pine, which was my plan- but probably not now, right? So looking for Asian place, spinners with a great menu. Would appreciate any suggestions, PMs are fine. FYI wi sucks for AMPs.[/QUOTE]I went to pine Monday, angie was pretty amazing.

We can show you how to use Google Translate if you want. FWIW, its the most intuitive one out there and every Chinese woman seems to have it and knows how to use it. "L" and I spend our spare time teaching each other Chinese / English. It's a great tool, along with WeChat, (also indipensible). To ease any concerns, I would assure you they all realize the imperfections of these language apps. More importantly, (Google Translate and WeChat) allow you to build communication with your new friends. Imagine how your session might have unfoded differently if you and your MT had been able to communicate. Bob.

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;3066314]I didn't stay mad at either of them actually. The shove didn't hurt or anything, but was kind of embarrassing. We went back to the room and still had a nice (although not above average) time. Seems to me THAT would be have been the best time for them to make it up to me, with upgraded service that's not on the menu or something. Although maybe you're right, perhaps I should go back and see what happens.

I'm not very experienced using the Chinese language App on my phone though (has a different name). I haven't really tried it on a real person yet. Not sure I'd be comfortable using it.[/QUOTE]

I've found we chat to be usable but I can tell you from first hand experience there can be many misunderstandings and these tools while helpful are extremely rudimentary and cannot replace knowing each others language.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3067094]We can show you how to use Google Translate if you want. FWIW, its the most intuitive one out there and every Chinese woman seems to have it and knows how to use it. "L" and I spend our spare time teaching each other Chinese / English. It's a great tool, along with WeChat, (also indipensible). To ease any concerns, I would assure you they all realize the imperfections of these language apps. More importantly, (Google Translate and WeChat) allow you to build communication with your new friends. Imagine how your session might have unfoded differently if you and your MT had been able to communicate. Bob.[/QUOTE]

I used WeChat once with a provider but seemed like everything was in Chinese, her profile, her posts, all her friends stuff. Problem is, if they don't speak english very well the WeChat app is not really going to benefit much either. I ended up deleting that app.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3067430]I've found we chat to be usable but I can tell you from first hand experience there can be many misunderstandings and these tools while helpful are extremely rudimentary and cannot replace knowing each others language.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueUc;3067469]I used WeChat once with a provider but seemed like everything was in Chinese, her profile, her posts, all her friends stuff. Problem is, if they don't speak english very well the WeChat app is not really going to benefit much either. I ended up deleting that app.[/QUOTE]That's exactly where WeChat shines actually. Because you can translate right in the chat your conversations. Its quite cool app once you get the hang of it actually.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3067094]We can show you how to use Google Transliqate if you want. FWIW, its the most intuitive one out there and every Chinese woman seems to have it and knows how to use it. "L" and I spend our spare time teaching each other Chinese / English. It's a great tool, along with WeChat, (also indipensible). To ease any concerns, I would assure you they all realize the imperfections of these language apps. More importantly, (Google Translate and WeChat) allow you to build communication with your new friends. Imagine how your session might have unfoded differently if you and your MT had been able to communicate. Bob.[/QUOTE]Well, I took maybe half of your advice- I went back the other day, but not with one of the Translate apps. Saw the MMS who was happy to see me come back again so soon, and my session was once again with her disappearing sister.

Was OK: better than the session I tried to walk out on, but nothing very special. I wasn't really able to fully express my dissatisfaction to either of them with my last visit.

The few times that MT's have pulled out their phone apps to talk to me in the past. it felt slow, awkward and clumsy, so I didn't try to use mine, barely knowing how it works.

Basically neither of them really acknowledged what hapened last time, nor tried to make it up to me in any way.

Had kind of hoped they would give me a free upgrade from 2 to 4 hands or something at least. They push 4 handed quite a bit there anyway.

Oh well. Maybe I'll dump the app I have and try out the Google equivalent.

WeChat though- tried that app just a little, but I just couldn't really get into it. My phone ran better once I uninstalled it, too.

Sorry to hear your return visit was unsatisfactory. You and DMichaels make excellent points. It is really easy to go off the rails with these apps. For example WeChat and Google often come up with opposite translations. One will say "always" the other will say "never" which, of course, is an unacceptable defect. (Google is correct more often than WeChat which uses Microsoft translator). The point is if you don't know the person or the cultural differences it can be tricky. Plus I have managed to learn a couple hundred words of Chinese. A great phrase: "Bu mingbai" (don't understand) gets used a lot. In general, use really short sentences and fewer things can go wrong. A cultural thing I guess: People often only answer you when you ask a question. You say: It's a nice day. (no answer). You say its a nice day, isn't it? (you get an answer). So people can often appear rude. But it's not the intent. Now the good news is everyone (American and Chinese) knows these apps are limited. Nobody expects perfection, but they do appreciate the attempt to communicate. I will say WeChat is essential if you want to maintain ongoing contact with friends. Bob.

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;3069226]Well, I took maybe half of your advice- I went back the other day, but not with one of the Translate apps. Saw the MMS who was happy to see me come back again so soon, and my session was once again with her disappearing sister.

Was OK: better than the session I tried to walk out on, but nothing very special. I wasn't really able to fully express my dissatisfaction to either of them with my last visit.

The few times that MT's have pulled out their phone apps to talk to me in the past. it felt slow, awkward and clumsy, so I didn't try to use mine, barely knowing how it works.

Basically neither of them really acknowledged what hapened last time, nor tried to make it up to me in any way.

Had kind of hoped they would give me a free upgrade from 2 to 4 hands or something at least. They push 4 handed quite a bit there anyway.

Oh well. Maybe I'll dump the app I have and try out the Google equivalent.

WeChat though- tried that app just a little, but I just couldn't really get into it. My phone ran better once I uninstalled it, too.[/QUOTE]