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[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3002846]HG baby, what you wrote is nothing but fucking long-winded beside-the-point bullshit obfuscation, in Cosmic Kid's most groveling and humble opinion. I mean, honey-pants, you conclude your circuitous meandering driveling commentary with, "So you see, there might be more to flaking than meets the eye. " Well, no, not really! Actually the definition of "flaking" is straightforward and not psycho-twitch at all: If you agree to see someone, and the two of you agree to an appointment time, and then subsequently you ditch without explanation or warning, THIS is what is meant by "flaking", pure and fucking simple, none of the shit you said about lions and tigers or whatever else metaphors applies here. If you of your own free will agree to do something with someone, then you bail on them, this is a clear breach of TRUST on your part. It's like that old Peanuts cartoon. You guys remember that one? Lucy holds the football for Charley Brown and he runs to kick but that ***** pulls the ball and Charley Brown falls on his ass? No matter how many times Peanuts ran variations on that cartoon theme it was always funny! End of story. I'm done with this convo.

CK out![/QUOTE]The operative word is "if. " Yes, "if" I agreed that would be true. But I don't know how you could speak of your personal experiences with me, when I don't see you. I don't stand you up. I don't make you wait. I simply don't want to see you. And I told you that. Politely, professionally, via PM, which is the same way you PM me. You might want to mention your veritable behind the scenes campaign to see me and I have always declined. I would never use a public forum like this to have that conversation, but you got a bee in your bonnet about me and did one of your unexpected posts. With all of the negative things you have said about me, although you only saw me once, circa 2014, why would you want to make an appointment, and why would you expect a targeted person to agree to see you? Anyone who looks over your history of posts about me will probably understand that I wanted to spend my time doing anything but seeing you. Lambasting someone who is not interested in meeting with you might be counterproductive if you wanted a fresh start.

Summary: CK's premise is correct. IF I had agreed to see someone and THEN stood the person up with nary a word, that would simply be wrong. Of course. I don't like all of this public ugliness, and I think personal matters should be handled in the appropriately named "private" message. Thus concludes the subject for me. This is the last negative message of this ilk from this monger I will dignify with a response. Thank you.

I would tend to agree, but posting someone's pic on any internet site without her consent is wrong, any way you look at it. Just because she allows a photo to be taken doesn't mean you get to do with it anything you want. In my opinion, if you take a photo of a lady, simply ask her if she minds if you post it on this site so that people know who they are setting an appointment with. I would tend to say, after seeing the photo, she will likely see an increase to her customer base. It should be more about respecting the ladies. There is also something others have not brought up and that's legality issues because there was a certain level of expectation to privacy on her part. If she didn't give consent, then there is a possibility of legal recourse for his actions. But that's my opinion.

[blue]You need to look up something called "fair use." If you're reviewing something you can use their material to do so. You can't use it for commercial purposes and we, the operators of the site, are not.

That doesn't mean I don't often take them down. It means that you can post pics of hookers that are commercial sex workers when you are reviewing them.

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So a few weeks ago, a fellow monger and I went back and forth on a review I wrote. Some people wasn't happy about me not listing the providers name and place of business. The exchanges got out of hand some and looking back, they were right, I should have provided more details on the provider. But in the process of going back and forth, one of my posts violated terms of this forum (what infraction is still in question) but for that infraction, I was penalized and now all my posts have to reviewed before released. My question is, how long do I have to wait until I regain my senior status back and have the ability to post without being reviewed?

[blue]Your answer is in the Special Restrictions you violated which are posted at the top of every Honolulu thread.

"The 1st violation will result in the perpetrator being placed on Permanent Moderation status."

Permanently would be the answer. We told you we would do it before you did it. Now we are simply doing what we told you we would. If you're wondering if the second part of that will also happen, yes it will. If you do it again I'll ban your username.

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[QUOTE=HonoluluGirl;3004828]The operative word is "if. " Yes, "if" I agreed that would be true. But I don't know how you could speak of your personal experiences with me, when I don't see you. I don't stand you up. I don't make you wait. I simply don't want to see you. And I told you that. Politely, professionally, via PM, which is the same way you PM me. You might want to mention your veritable behind the scenes campaign to see me and I have always declined. I would never use a public forum like this to have that conversation, but you got a bee in your bonnet about me and did one of your unexpected posts. With all of the negative things you have said about me, although you only saw me once, circa 2014, why would you want to make an appointment, and why would you expect a targeted person to agree to see you? Anyone who looks over your history of posts about me will probably understand that I wanted to spend my time doing anything but seeing you. Lambasting someone who is not interested in meeting with you might be counterproductive if you wanted a fresh start.

Summary: CK's premise is correct. IF I had agreed to see someone and THEN stood the person up with nary a word, that would simply be wrong. Of course. I don't like all of this public ugliness, and I think personal matters should be handled in the appropriately named "private" message. Thus concludes the subject for me. This is the last negative message of this ilk from this monger I will dignify with a response. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Interesting! Actually, I'd been feeling some remorse about my previous post about you, HG, thinking I was overly heavy-handed, and I was planning on issuing a bit of a retraction and public apology to you today. Things you've stated in your post complicate matters however. I honestly believe you have me confused with some other monger! "Veritable behind the scenes campaign to see me"? Not only is that statement absurd but it's devoid of any connection with reality whatsoever. I sent you ONE PM requesting a session recently, and you responded with something about how you suspected I might be someone you didn't want to see but you weren't sure; and subsequently I never heard anything more from you, and I never attempted to contact you again! Plus, I continue to maintain that on two separate occasions you canceled mutually agreed-upon sessions with me without alerting me to those cancellations. Even so, and thus my wish to apologize, in retrospect I believe it was nothing more than bad timing for us, that both of those two cancellations of yours represented legitimate unfortunate emergencies in your life, and thus it's conceivable you were having so much stress that front-loading me about the cancellations was the least of your concerns. In other words, you didn't "flake" on me on a whim. You were under considerable stress and I probably should have forgiven you, not taken the situation personally, and not gotten so heavy on your case for not alerting me to the cancellations. However, this discussion is descending into "he said, she said", unprovable back and forth allegations, so it's best to conclude it now, and for this reason I agree with your decision to end our exchange, HG.

Just for the record, as us guys know, there are pros out there who are only in the pussy-selling biz for the money, and are rip-off biatches who can and will pull various games on a monger if he lets his guard down. But I state here and now it's my impression HG is most definitely NOT one of those unscrupulous cold-blooded women. Bottom line, I believe Honolulu Girl's got a good heart, entertains high ethical standards, and is fully committed to giving the best service to her clients that she can. In fact, two of the senior mongers I personally respect most on this board, those fine gentlemen of exemplary character being Redneck and Blake123, have both had, according to their posts as I recall, quite satisfying session encounters with HG. It all just boils down to TEHO. Our lady in question is obviously an excellent sensual experience and very sexy bang for the buck for select mongers. But it's become rather apparent she and I do not get along.

From Lava Spa / Blue Angel Thread:

"Slide Hammer.

Senior Member.

Posts: 442.

Real smart let's laugh shall we? Can't wait Til they call cops to complain this place is probably asking to get raided daily.

Only idiots would think the below is cool.

Thanks for the info on the drywall. Will avoid. ".

RELAX, Debbie Downer!!

Not all of us make the girls squeal with delight!!

In fact, most of us don't last more than 5 minutes in these Hotties before busting our loads!!

And most of us don't pleasure these Hotties enough to make them scream & moan & groan with delight enough to be heard through a shower curtain!!

So rest your mind, the minority of us rockin' these Hottie's Worlds will not cause premature closure of said salons due to excessively loud sexual noises. There just ain't enough of us doing the heavy lifting to cause this calamity.

Ask Mama if the neighbors complain about the "noise".

Too few & far btwn for them to give a rat's ass.

The owner don't care, as long as they pay the rent!!

Enjoy the Hotties!!

Be Safe,

Insatiable808.

[QUOTE=AlohaJ;3004854]I would tend to agree, but posting someone's pic on any internet site without her consent is wrong, any way you look at it. Just because she allows a photo to be taken doesn't mean you get to do with it anything you want. In my opinion, if you take a photo of a lady, simply ask her if she minds if you post it on this site so that people know who they are setting an appointment with. I would tend to say, after seeing the photo, she will likely see an increase to her customer base. It should be more about respecting the ladies. There is also something others have not brought up and that's legality issues because there was a certain level of expectation to privacy on her part. If she didn't give consent, then there is a possibility of legal recourse for his actions. But that's my opinion.

[blue]You need to look up something called "fair use." If you're reviewing something you can use their material to do so. You can't use it for commercial purposes and we, the operators of the site, are not.

That doesn't mean I don't often take them down. It means that you can post pics of hookers that are commercial sex workers when you are reviewing them.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]In your opinion its wrong. I can do anything I want with it and I did. You are right she will see a boom in business. Don't quit you day job I don't think you will get into law school, Sea Lawyers are a dime a dozen.

Fair use pertains to copy right, not expectation of privacy, which is something different. Because the photos were taken in a private venue and not in public, the expectation of privacy is in question. Concent to take a photo does give them consent to post them on the Internet. But I guess being a senior member of this site makes you all knowing. Whether it's illegal or not can be debated and I'm sure there is case law that covers this, but it's also a moral issue, which I am safe to say you have none. You posting someone's photo without consent gives everyone of us a bad name. So I will take my law degree from sea university and go hom.

So did the other person get penalized as well? So I'm still confused as to what I did that is listed on your infractions at the top. I did not:

Post person information nor did I post arrest warrants or incarcerations of a person. I did not post mugshots or use all caps. So I ask again, what exactly did I post that was against these rules? I was simply responding to someone else who blasted me on my review. If you read my posts, I told the other member to move this to the beef section so that I didn't violate your rules. BTW, I see posts unrelated to the topic all the time, yet I don't see then edited or removed. Seems to me that you choose what rules to enforce and what rules not to enforce.

[blue]Can you fucking read? You just said you did the thing I threw the flag for.

[quote]I was simply responding to someone else who blasted me on my review.[/quote]Is a direct violation of the Honolulu restrictions posted at the top of every page.

"Effective immediately, posters in the Honolulu forum are prohibited from criticizing, complaining about or discussing other forum members."

If you're having a problem with the big words get somebody to explain it to you.

Fair warning brotherman; you're going to want to give this up while you're only this far behind, you're not nearly as smart as your mom tells you that you are. This isn't going to get any better for you.

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[QUOTE=RiverRat22;3005353]In your opinion its wrong. I can do anything I want with it and I did. You are right she will see a boom in business. Don't quit you day job I don't think you will get into law school, Sea Lawyers are a dime a dozen.[/QUOTE]I've been observing this unfolding drama concerning Monica's pics, and it does seem there are highly paradoxical aspects to the situation. On one hand, yeah, dudes see that shot of her back and get turned on and suddenly, as RiverRat22 says, biz is soon booming for her. But the other hypothetical side of this equation is this provider must worry about who took what photos of her in the past, and is someone sometime going to get angry at her for something and want to seek revenge by exposing her identity via a photo and messing up her life, maybe even try and blackmail her by threatening to make public a photo revealing her identity? I could see her becoming quite paranoid, and for good reason, about the possibilities for trouble as a result of pics guys have of her in action. So, the upside seems to be more immediate work and cash for her now, but downside, more potential for problems in the future. I don't know if any of this is true, I'm simply speculating.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3005416]I've been observing this unfolding drama concerning Monica's pics, and it does seem there are highly paradoxical aspects to the situation. On one hand, yeah, dudes see that shot of her back and get turned on and suddenly, as RiverRat22 says, biz is soon booming for her. But the other hypothetical side of this equation is this provider must worry about who took what photos of her in the past, and is someone sometime going to get angry at her for something and want to seek revenge by exposing her identity via a photo and messing up her life, maybe even try and blackmail her by threatening to make public a photo revealing her identity? I could see her becoming quite paranoid, and for good reason, about the possibilities for trouble as a result of pics guys have of her in action. So, the upside seems to be more immediate work and cash for her now, but downside, more potential for problems in the future. I don't know if any of this is true, I'm simply speculating.[/QUOTE]There is nothing paradoxical about this situation. RiverRat22 is a fucking idiot for posting that picture without her permission. I really hope she posts a picture of that ass in response.

Let me look at the top to make sure I'm posting in the beef section because lord knows I wouldn't want to violate any rules because cigar shopping belongs in Massage section? Seems to me that there are a lot of violators that aren't getting popped and banned. I would appreciate you not referencing my mother in future posts if you don't mind. This is the beef section and I have a legit beef as many others do at this point. I think the perceived power you have has gone straight to your head. Ban me from for speaking my peace in the right thread if you need to, but don't you think you're taking this a little far? Also, let me guess, I just violated another rule by picking my beef with you, since you're a member as well?

[QUOTE=AlohaJ;3006014]Let me look at the top to make sure I'm posting in the beef section because lord knows I wouldn't want to violate any rules because cigar shopping belongs in Massage section? Seems to me that there are a lot of violators that aren't getting popped and banned. I would appreciate you not referencing my mother in future posts if you don't mind. This is the beef section and I have a legit beef as many others do at this point. I think the perceived power you have has gone straight to your head. Ban me from for speaking my peace in the right thread if you need to, but don't you think you're taking this a little far? Also, let me guess, I just violated another rule by picking my beef with you, since you're a member as well?[/QUOTE]None of this is in blue so it's just me.

Where to start?

Mom's, I wasn't talking about your mom. Talking about mom's is and always will be against the rules. I was insulting you not her. There's a difference though I'm sure you will ignore that since it doesn't fit your narrative.

I have no perceived power on this forum, I have absolute power on this forum, it's what being an admin means. None of it goes to my head, it's just how it is. When I log out I leave it behind me and go enjoy the great life this gig provides for me.

It has never been a violation of the rules to insult me on a fight thread and if you think you're copping some kind of cherry by doing it you couldn't be more wrong. You also couldn't have done it less originally. I could give a shit less what you say about me on a fight thread, it's the internet. You don't know me, you think you do because of the job I do but A2 isn't a person, it's a construct of people, like a character I use for work. I'm very different so who are you spending your time insulting? It's not me, I'm not A2. Guys like you are job security for me because only one of us is getting paid to do this. I got this chick coming over in about an hour, she's a regular of mine. While you're thinking of the next thing to say to me I'll be fucking her. [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Caro%20Manzanita_15-6464-8163_13634.htm[/URL].

Are you kind of getting the idea why I don't really care what you call me? So flame on brother, it's all good with me. Just keep it on the fight thread because guys who come to the forum to read about pussy don't want to wade through your smart guy bullshit to get to the parts about pussy.

A2.

As you, this is a hobby and none of this is worth my or your time. I wish you luck with the lady you listed, she looks yummy. I have no issue with the rules, but I was hoping for a warning before hitting me with a violation and making everything I post require review and approval because sometimes we require a quick response. The rules are the rules and I suppose I'll face the consequences for my actions. I would rather continue gaining access to the site than get booted. So I will consider this beef squashed so I can use my time trolling for the next grade A piece.

[blue]Always the best idea, life is short. Consider the beef cooked.

Go and sin some more my son.

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[QUOTE=MondoBadfoot;3006152]Let me remind you, fellow mongers that a couple of months ago a couple of new comers posted stories of giving ShaSha a ride home after their first meeting and going up to her place for wild fuck fests! That too was total bullshit! This could be the same clown under a different name- I think A2 has him pegged. Anyway little ShaSha may give the impression of being submissive, but believe me- she is always in control! The concept of throwing a little extra money her way, to get her to do something she doesn't want to do is pure foolishness![/QUOTE]It's the same guy making up shit. Sasha doesn't do anal and isn't taking you home after fucking all day and night LOL. Watch out for the really psycho personality to rear his ugly head again soon. Have fun!

Wow so what happened to all the posts of hapa Jasmine having a pimp? Someone in here deleted all the posts but yet left the ones saying good thing s about her?