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[QUOTE=Jimm0714;5694723]Any of you guys ever worry about a provider lying about birth control and you loose it spur of the moment no condom, then you get to know the provider a little find about all the demons. They ask for spare change toy sat no they get pissed off, can cause you to loose sleep at night. Lately I've been with some questionable women.[/QUOTE]Brother. This may sound harsh.
Questionable.
Is part of this hobby.
In many aspects.
[QUOTE=Jimm0714;5694723]Any of you guys ever worry about a provider lying about birth control and you loose it spur of the moment no condom, then you get to know the provider a little find about all the demons. They ask for spare change toy sat no they get pissed off, can cause you to loose sleep at night. Lately I've been with some questionable women.[/QUOTE]She's pregnant with twins dude. Just kidding ya. Work on your self control some. If you have none, which sounds like you don't, plan a head. Read that as buy some covers as soon as you use the last one.
But yeah, we've all been there, whether we want to admit it or not.
[QUOTE=Jimm0714;5694723]Any of you guys ever worry about a provider lying about birth control and you loose it spur of the moment no condom, then you get to know the provider a little find about all the demons. They ask for spare change toy sat no they get pissed off, can cause you to loose sleep at night. Lately I've been with some questionable women.[/QUOTE]Realistically speaking, even if the unthinkable happened if you have allowed yourself to be in a position where she knows anything about you-real name, where you live, real phone number, etc-then honestly you have fucked up somewhere along the line.
If she is going BB with you, chances are she is doing the same with the majority or all of her clients. If we are talking about a STG girl, 8-10 guys a day would be normal. Figure that out for a week, month, or year. Pretty sobering isn't it?
Point being, odds being nothing will happen on the front you are concerned about. Now in terms of bringing home an unwanted visitor from your visit, chances are much higher for that.
Now, switching gears, morally it's a different issue. If you knew for 100 percent certain you had knocked up a provider and confirmed by DNA? Hell of a situation and honestly I'm happy I have never been put in that quandary.
This was a straight up sa relationship. Not stg or ever stg lady. We decided on a Christmas eve. Date and sex was not discussed. 5 or 6 hours later were in my bed. I find it difficult to hide my identity in a sa relationship that's not a 1 hour fuck. After 15 hours together I started seeing some mental health issues not drugs (getting to know these girls is like peeling back an onion), I'm pretty sure most tatted up pierced young girl fucking a 65 year old guy probably has a little something going on. I finished with a condom and I am sure it's not an issue, but it does make one think,. I kind of pissed her off, this was a freebie and after I took her home she texted a few hours later asking for some pocket change. I told her no I do not do that.
[QUOTE=AcquaDeJim;5694789]Realistically speaking, even if the unthinkable happened if you have allowed yourself to be in a position where she knows anything about you-real name, where you live, real phone number, etc-then honestly you have fucked up somewhere along the line.
If she is going BB with you, chances are she is doing the same with the majority or all of her clients. If we are talking about a STG girl, 8-10 guys a day would be normal. Figure that out for a week, month, or year. Pretty sobering isn't it?
Point being, odds being nothing will happen on the front you are concerned about. Now in terms of bringing home an unwanted visitor from your visit, chances are much higher for that.
Now, switching gears, morally it's a different issue. If you knew for 100 percent certain you had knocked up a provider and confirmed by DNA? Hell of a situation and honestly I'm happy I have never been put in that quandary.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jimm0714;5694860]This was a straight up sa relationship. Not stg or ever stg lady. We decided on a Christmas eve. Date and sex was not discussed. 5 or 6 hours later were in my bed. I find it difficult to hide my identity in a sa relationship that's not a 1 hour fuck. After 15 hours together I started seeing some mental health issues not drugs (getting to know these girls is like peeling back an onion), I'm pretty sure most tatted up pierced young girl fucking a 65 year old guy probably has a little something going on. I finished with a condom and I am sure it's not an issue, but it does make one think,. I kind of pissed her off, this was a freebie and after I took her home she texted a few hours later asking for some pocket change. I told her no I do not do that.[/QUOTE]Hate to break it to you, but there is something "off" with most of them. Whether it's drugs, mental issues, or going through life very insecure in everything (finances, housing, etc) there is always something. 99 percent of the girls who are in this profession are doing so because they have no other options. Notice I did leave a little wiggle room for the very few girls who come in with a plan and save their money and build a nice little cushion for the rest of their life.
In terms of getting a "freebie", in the end there is no such thing. Whether it is a straight up transactional arrangement or an "in kind" kind of situation, most likely there was an expectation there. Don't get me wrong, I have been offered "freebies" many times by girls, and after many years I have figured out it's just not a good idea. Would rather pay the freight upfront and avoid issues later. Last thing I would want hanging over my head is feeling like I owed a provider something.
"Nothing in life is ever free" is a good motto to have in this hobby.
Is the barking dogs doing Jingle Bells which leads me to my next rant.
Unless I have traded info with you in the pass or know you are a truly trusted senior. I WILL NOT be giving out any information request so don't ask.
You can thank the barking puppies for this and what this forum has become. As they sit back and smile at this post just remember every dog has it day and I will have mine.
Bow wow wow.
[QUOTE=AcquaDeJim;5694882]Hate to break it to you, but there is something "off" with most of them. Whether it's drugs, mental issues, or going through life very insecure in everything (finances, housing, etc) there is always something. 99 percent of the girls who are in this profession are doing so because they have no other options. Notice I did leave a little wiggle room for the very few girls who come in with a plan and save their money and build a nice little cushion for the rest of their life.
In terms of getting a "freebie", in the end there is no such thing. Whether it is a straight up transactional arrangement or an "in kind" kind of situation, most likely there was an expectation there. Don't get me wrong, I have been offered "freebies" many times by girls, and after many years I have figured out it's just not a good idea. Would rather pay the freight upfront and avoid issues later. Last thing I would want hanging over my head is feeling like I owed a provider something.
"Nothing in life is ever free" is a good motto to have in this hobby.[/QUOTE]Well understand thinking your her boyfriend as I have been there and it always gets messed up and your really not, yes I treat them well and want to think they are into me and some might be but it will always bite you in the ass and NEVER let them know the real you and name! I have to much to lose and don't need that BS for sure. You get going good with one and being comfortable with them and then boyfriend gets in there phone and reads all the nasty texting you have been doing with them! Just happened to me LOL so have to get another one! Be safe.
Why can't these sugar baby sites have an option for the girls to host. I hate having to get a hotel room mid day in cash to fuck. It's so much better to show up at the girls apartment do your thing and leave not to mention the extra money is less I have to rent pussy with. I've already stopped looking at any of them under 25 as they usually have a roommate or still with parents. The best to me are late 20's through early 40's as they have enough shit figured out in life to at least have their own place.
[QUOTE=Skboy;5697965]Is the barking dogs doing Jingle Bells which leads me to my next rant.
Unless I have traded info with you in the pass or know you are a truly trusted senior. I WILL NOT be giving out any information request so don't ask.
You can thank the barking puppies for this and what this forum has become. As they sit back and smile at this post just remember every dog has it day and I will have mine.
Bow wow wow.[/QUOTE]Damn It man.
[QUOTE=InFromBehind;5700192]Why can't these sugar baby sites have an option for the girls to host. I hate having to get a hotel room mid day in cash to fuck. It's so much better to show up at the girls apartment do your thing and leave not to mention the extra money is less I have to rent pussy with. I've already stopped looking at any of them under 25 as they usually have a roommate or still with parents. The best to me are late 20's through early 40's as they have enough shit figured out in life to at least have their own place.[/QUOTE]But not sure more than 5% have their shit together. As risky as it it I really like these girls in my own bed. I'm single pretty low key and have made a few risky moves. Maybe I should rent a bedroom.
[QUOTE=Jimm0714;5700592]But not sure more than 5% have their shit together. As risky as it it I really like these girls in my own bed. I'm single pretty low key and have made a few risky moves. Maybe I should rent a bedroom.[/QUOTE]I'm kinda the same in that regard. I prefer my own home and bed also. I actually feel safer in my home.
But then. That is risky.
Cause you never know about these women or the company they keep. Nor do we know when their mental state will go insane.
There's a risk in all aspects.
[QUOTE=Jimm0714;5700592]But not sure more than 5% have their shit together. As risky as it it I really like these girls in my own bed. I'm single pretty low key and have made a few risky moves. Maybe I should rent a bedroom.[/QUOTE]Learned a long time ago to never let a girl I am paying know exactly where I live.
Made that mistake one time in my younger days one time. House got broken into twice in four months after that before I grew a brain and moved. Of course there is a small possibility that it was unrelated, but never had that happen before or since.
[QUOTE=AcquaDeJim;5700666]Learned a long time ago to never let a girl I am paying know exactly where I live.
Made that mistake one time in my younger days one time. House got broken into twice in four months after that before I grew a brain and moved. Of course there is a small possibility that it was unrelated, but never had that happen before or since.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jimm0714;5700592]But not sure more than 5% have their shit together. As risky as it it I really like these girls in my own bed. I'm single pretty low key and have made a few risky moves. Maybe I should rent a bedroom.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=InFromBehind;5700192]Why can't these sugar baby sites have an option for the girls to host. I hate having to get a hotel room mid day in cash to fuck. It's so much better to show up at the girls apartment do your thing and leave not to mention the extra money is less I have to rent pussy with. I've already stopped looking at any of them under 25 as they usually have a roommate or still with parents. The best to me are late 20's through early 40's as they have enough shit figured out in life to at least have their own place.[/QUOTE][B]My Negative Experience[/B]
When I was younger and dumber in this hobby, I had a questionable female come to my place. This is like the traditional SkipTheGames gal with no real job, who rents a room and spends the day sucking and f**king with demons that she tries to keep at bay. The situation was that I had relatives visiting, she showed up announced, and she was demanding money for nothing. I faced the embarrassment with family there, but if I weren't single, it could have been much worse.
[B]Hybrid Approach: Home and Away (sort of) Games[/B]
[I]Home Games[/I] - I mostly shop on SA, I don't mess with SkipTheGames or list crawler sites out of a sense of perceived selectiveness. I like to have as much control over the environment as possible, so I host. After I've known a gal for a few months, I will host in my main home. However, she has to be a professional chic. ,. , works a professional job with benefits, likely has a Master's Degree or above, and has to have some code of conduct with her profession or maintain security clearances. Her need for discretion and non-fuckery has to be equal to greater than my own. Teachers, nurses, post-docs, engineers, lawyers, and the like. Many of those gals will immediately disqualify a guy if he doesn't have a passed background check designation on the dating platforms that they use.
[I]Away Games[/I] - If it's a quick setup and I'm not familiar with the gal, I make it an away game, but my away game is still a situation where I host (just not in my main home). I have a buddy that has an extra property available so a group of us "rent" the space from him. We all pitch in a portion and it is far less expensive and feels safer than getting a room several times a week depending on how much we have an opportunity to play. I'm picky about where I rent a hotel room (I will not rent a room that has direct access from the street), so it keeps me from forking over a hundred bucks a pop for a room to use for a few hours in addition to the cost of her time. Make the space comfortable with all modern amenities and it doesn't feel seedy (especially for the SA gals who are new to this). So between our pitching in to rent the space and having a housekeeper come in regularly, it makes for a convenient setup. When I send a message to the group that "I'm rehearsing a presentation, Do Not Disturb", the space is mine for as long as I need it.
[I]Their hosting[/I] - I don't do incalls any more, no provider's incall is suitable enough for me. After evaluation of my safety, need to remain vigilant, and low tolerance for fuckery in general, I just can't justify being in her domain. Too may fukboys, simps, and wannabe thugs (in love with these ho's) out there to make it worth my while. Many of those gals still can't wipe there arse good yet, so I don't expect them to offer a pristine incall in addition to offering a level of security that I require. I always have my own protection at the ready in addition to a box of rubbers.
As with everything YMMV and there are levels to this shyt. We all f**k up before we level-up, but we are constantly balancing the risk-reward scale even when reaching for convenience store sushi.
Stay vigilant. ,. ,
Milfman.
[QUOTE=MilfMan865;5701555][B]My Negative Experience[/B]
When I was younger and dumber in this hobby, I had a questionable female come to my place. This is like the traditional SkipTheGames gal with no real job, who rents a room and spends the day sucking and f**king with demons that she tries to keep at bay. The situation was that I had relatives visiting, she showed up announced, and she was demanding money for nothing. I faced the embarrassment with family there, but if I weren't single, it could have been much worse.
[B]Hybrid Approach: Home and Away (sort of) Games[/B]
[I]Home Games[/I] - I mostly shop on SA, I don't mess with SkipTheGames or list crawler sites out of a sense of perceived selectiveness. I like to have as much control over the environment as possible, so I host. After I've known a gal for a few months, I will host in my main home. However, she has to be a professional chic. ,. , works a professional job with benefits, likely has a Master's Degree or above, and has to have some code of conduct with her profession or maintain security clearances. Her need for discretion and non-fuckery has to be equal to greater than my own. Teachers, nurses, post-docs, engineers, lawyers, and the like. Many of those gals will immediately disqualify a guy if he doesn't have a passed background check designation on the dating platforms that they use.
[I]Away Games[/I] - If it's a quick setup and I'm not familiar with the gal, I make it an away game, but my away game is still a situation where I host (just not in my main home). I have a buddy that has an extra property available so a group of us "rent" the space from him. We all pitch in a portion and it is far less expensive and feels safer than getting a room several times a week depending on how much we have an opportunity to play. I'm picky about where I rent a hotel room (I will not rent a room that has direct access from the street), so it keeps me from forking over a hundred bucks a pop for a room to use for a few hours in addition to the cost of her time. Make the space comfortable with all modern amenities and it doesn't feel seedy (especially for the SA gals who are new to this). So between our pitching in to rent the space and having a housekeeper come in regularly, it makes for a convenient setup. When I send a message to the group that "I'm rehearsing a presentation, Do Not Disturb", the space is mine for as long as I need it.
[I]Their hosting[/I] - I don't do incalls any more, no provider's incall is suitable enough for me. After evaluation of my safety, need to remain vigilant, and low tolerance for fuckery in general, I just can't justify being in her domain. Too may fukboys, simps, and wannabe thugs (in love with these ho's) out there to make it worth my while. Many of those gals still can't wipe there arse good yet, so I don't expect them to offer a pristine incall in addition to offering a level of security that I require. I always have my own protection at the ready in addition to a box of rubbers.
As with everything YMMV and there are levels to this shyt. We all f**k up before we level-up, but we are constantly balancing the risk-reward scale even when reaching for convenience store sushi.
Stay vigilant. ,. ,
Milfman.[/QUOTE]I've considered purchasing an RV, seriously considered it. It's hard to find a good deal on one right now. I've thought this through and the only risk I can come up with would be if one of these gals was a serious scammer and managed to track down my real identity from a license plate.
[QUOTE=MilfMan865;5701555]If it's a quick setup and I'm not familiar with the gal, I make it an away game, but my away game is still a situation where I host (just not in my main home). I have a buddy that has an extra property available so a group of us "rent" the space from him. We all pitch in a portion and it is far less expensive and feels safer than getting a room several times a week depending on how much we have an opportunity to play. I'm picky about where I rent a hotel room (I will not rent a room that has direct access from the street), so it keeps me from forking over a hundred bucks a pop for a room to use for a few hours in addition to the cost of her time. Make the space comfortable with all modern amenities and it doesn't feel seedy (especially for the SA gals who are new to this). So between our pitching in to rent the space and having a housekeeper come in regularly, it makes for a convenient setup. When I send a message to the group that "I'm rehearsing a presentation, Do Not Disturb", the space is mine for as long as I need it.[/QUOTE]That's the dream right there. I've often thought about this type of setup, but didn't know anyone was actually doing it. Bravo.